Be New to MOS? Introduce you're self here!

This is a wonderful introduction and I would love for you to copy this and paste it into the Routines in progress section as we can follow you better this way. I would also include any other information important to your routine. You can update every day and we will advise you every day. It’s also a great place for new man to come and get inspired

Thanks for the kind words and suggestions, brother. Here's the link to my daily log for you to follow: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/dcys-journey-to-8-x-5-5.1822332/. It will be good to see you there; great to have such encouragement and experience at hand from all the veterans.
 
Thanks for the kind words and suggestions, brother. Here's the link to my daily log for you to follow: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/dcys-journey-to-8-x-5-5.1822332/. It will be good to see you there; great to have such encouragement and experience at hand from all the veterans.

Thank you for taking my advice and I just chimed in on your progress thread. Now I will be looking in on you every single day to see how things are going.
 
Hello, I am new, my name is Abdullah, from Kuwait, from an Arab country, and the primary Arabic language. I started to enlarge the penis two months ago. I use an inexpensive air pump with a few manual exercises and a bandage, but I see tired hand exercises and tired hands. I gained from this routine 3 cm within two and a half months. My goal is 20 cm. My previous size is 12 cm, and my collar is 3 cm. Now my size is 15 cm, and my collar is 3.75 cm. I saw your site, I liked a lot even the products, but shipping to Kuwait is expensive. I think that I buy a SRT group. I like it very much. There is a whole group and I think about a BM pump, but I don’t know what to do. Thank you.
 
Hello, I am new, my name is Abdullah, from Kuwait, from an Arab country, and the primary Arabic language. I started to enlarge the penis two months ago. I use an inexpensive air pump with a few manual exercises and a bandage, but I see tired hand exercises and tired hands. I gained from this routine 3 cm within two and a half months. My goal is 20 cm. My previous size is 12 cm, and my collar is 3 cm. Now my size is 15 cm, and my collar is 3.75 cm. I saw your site, I liked a lot even the products, but shipping to Kuwait is expensive. I think that I buy a SRT group. I like it very much. There is a whole group and I think about a BM pump, but I don’t know what to do. Thank you.

If you buy the SRT package I believe that ships for free. And it contains every single tool needed for any part of SRT.
 
Yes you are correct shipping is only free in the United States.
 
I can give you a discount if that would help. I could probably get 10% off. I’ll do whatever I can for your brother to make it work.
Thank you for helping me. I hope to get the discount and how to use all of this medicine. Is there a schedule for me to do?
 
Thank you for helping me. I hope to get the discount and how to use all of this medicine. Is there a schedule for me to do?

Starting out I would want you to the Newbie routine as this is the best place to start. Since you do not have any tools this is a completely manual work out. If and when you get tools we can move into the SRT Routine.
 
Starting out I would want you to the Newbie routine as this is the best place to start. Since you do not have any tools this is a completely manual work out. If and when you get tools we can move into the SRT Routine.
Manual routine is very tired. Is there any other way than manual
 
Manual routine is very tired. Is there any other way than manual

SRT Is the best workout and it uses the following tools. And as I said I can get you 10% off these tools on top of the discount we already have. Basically need three tools to do the entirety of the SRT. I will list them below.

Is the best workout edit uses the following tools. And as I said I can get you 10% off these tools on top of the discount we already have. Basically need three tools to do the entirety of SRT. I will list them below.

The Lengthmaster
The SiliStretcher
The Bathmate or Mityvac

With these three tools you can do the entirety of the SRT routine.
 
SRT Is the best workout and it uses the following tools. And as I said I can get you 10% off these tools on top of the discount we already have. Basically need three tools to do the entirety of the SRT. I will list them below.

Is the best workout edit uses the following tools. And as I said I can get you 10% off these tools on top of the discount we already have. Basically need three tools to do the entirety of SRT. I will list them below.

The Lengthmaster
The SiliStretcher
The Bathmate or Mityvac

With these three tools you can do the entirety of the SRT routine.
Is there a manual routine, or just tools? I don't like using hands
 
Is there a manual routine, or just tools? I don't like using hands

Yes SRT is done with all tools. Let me know which tools you’re going to get and I can write a routine for you that only uses tools.
 
Hi everyone @ MOS, NotSoSlimJim breaking free of lurker status.

I originally stumbled upon MOS and DLD when purchasing a SG in 2014ish. I originally was inspired as just about all men are to PE, through the desire to see that look on her face from the unzip to the relaxed angelic stare into your soul post satiated fuck smoke break.

Upon a serious breakup I thought I was small when I now know I was average @ 6EL/4.5ishEG this is what would start my journey on an off from 2014 to now. I have been out of all PE from 2018 to just about 4 weeks ago from this post. So my PE experience looks similar to this:

2014-2017 - Used SG as frequently as possible w/ a VLC tugger Mod. I did no real stretching or girth routine. I just got in the device and beat this shit out of it as frequently as possible. Probably a 6mo total time lapse of inactivity in this period.

So as I write this today, I am waiting for a replacement arm for the extender as the screw got jacked up due to oxidation in a safe when I was away. I plan on incorporating a legit routine to see how that affects the progress I have made so far in getting to my goals, plus after a huge hiatus from MOS I’ve returned to see so many awsome products. I feel like an older PEer walking into the modern era of PE (xd).

Current: BPEL:7.5in
MSEG:5.25in

Goal: BPEL: 8-8.5in
MSEG: 5.75-6in

I hope to reach these goals with a legit manual program, the SG, and some other products initially the minyvac and would like the SiliStretcher-2 to replace my SG soon. I hope to not be tapped out in the growth arena. Nice to meet all of you. And Happy Hunting
 
Hi everyone @ MOS, NotSoSlimJim breaking free of lurker status.

I originally stumbled upon MOS and DLD when purchasing a SG in 2014ish. I originally was inspired as just about all men are to PE, through the desire to see that look on her face from the unzip to the relaxed angelic stare into your soul post satiated fuck smoke break.

Upon a serious breakup I thought I was small when I now know I was average @ 6EL/4.5ishEG this is what would start my journey on an off from 2014 to now. I have been out of all PE from 2018 to just about 4 weeks ago from this post. So my PE experience looks similar to this:

2014-2017 - Used SG as frequently as possible w/ a VLC tugger Mod. I did no real stretching or girth routine. I just got in the device and beat this shit out of it as frequently as possible. Probably a 6mo total time lapse of inactivity in this period.

So as I write this today, I am waiting for a replacement arm for the extender as the screw got jacked up due to oxidation in a safe when I was away. I plan on incorporating a legit routine to see how that affects the progress I have made so far in getting to my goals, plus after a huge hiatus from MOS I’ve returned to see so many awsome products. I feel like an older PEer walking into the modern era of PE (xd).

Current: BPEL:7.5in
MSEG:5.25in

Goal: BPEL: 8-8.5in
MSEG: 5.75-6in

I hope to reach these goals with a legit manual program, the SG, and some other products initially the minyvac and would like the SiliStretcher-2 to replace my SG soon. I hope to not be tapped out in the growth arena. Nice to meet all of you. And Happy Hunting

Welcome back @NotSoSlimJim -- great to have you here, sharing your journey with us. Great starting point and we've got similar goals, brother.
 
Hi everyone @ MOS, NotSoSlimJim breaking free of lurker status.

I originally stumbled upon MOS and DLD when purchasing a SG in 2014ish. I originally was inspired as just about all men are to PE, through the desire to see that look on her face from the unzip to the relaxed angelic stare into your soul post satiated fuck smoke break.

Upon a serious breakup I thought I was small when I now know I was average @ 6EL/4.5ishEG this is what would start my journey on an off from 2014 to now. I have been out of all PE from 2018 to just about 4 weeks ago from this post. So my PE experience looks similar to this:

2014-2017 - Used SG as frequently as possible w/ a VLC tugger Mod. I did no real stretching or girth routine. I just got in the device and beat this shit out of it as frequently as possible. Probably a 6mo total time lapse of inactivity in this period.

So as I write this today, I am waiting for a replacement arm for the extender as the screw got jacked up due to oxidation in a safe when I was away. I plan on incorporating a legit routine to see how that affects the progress I have made so far in getting to my goals, plus after a huge hiatus from MOS I’ve returned to see so many awsome products. I feel like an older PEer walking into the modern era of PE (xd).

Current: BPEL:7.5in
MSEG:5.25in

Goal: BPEL: 8-8.5in
MSEG: 5.75-6in

I hope to reach these goals with a legit manual program, the SG, and some other products initially the minyvac and would like the SiliStretcher-2 to replace my SG soon. I hope to not be tapped out in the growth arena. Nice to meet all of you. And Happy Hunting

Hello my new brother and thank you for coming out and becoming part of the brotherhood. Your goals are very reasonable and I think with the right routine you’ll get there quickly. The Mityvac and the Silistretcher are both very good piece of equipment that work hand-in-hand with the SRT routine. If you go that route let me know and I will help you put together a really good routine.
 
I guess I’m confused on the question. Can you rephrase this question so I can understand it better?
What is the training that I do with the SRT package? I am a lot of equipment. How can the time be divided to set a timetable for doing all the equipment? What is the training schedule for each device? Is it used simultaneously?
 
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First 2 weeks LENGTH and GIRTH
Stretching Routine:
5 Minutes Bundled Stretches
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

After this length workout, which should take approximately 30 minutes, you will need to attach the SiliStretcher , SizeDoctor , SizeGenetics Or any good ADS . Learn this, love it, embrace it and become one with it! This is vital and must happen directly after workout. Stretch your penis to it's full flaccid stretched length and hold that position for as long as possible.


5 minutes doing Bundled Stretches
100 strong, upward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong, downward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong, upward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong downward jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
Put on cock ring to heal

Now it is time for sleep and I want you to be doing Penis Enlargement then too. The cock ring should be removed, lightly stretched and massage your penis and use the Testical Heralth Massage and Stretch , this will increase your flaccid size very quickly making it heavier and hanging lower and longer. After this you will use your SiliStretcher in it’s passive mode to sleep while elongated.

after two weeks


Using your LengthMaster 30 seconds for each stretch
4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles stretches
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right
Rotaries: 25 Cranks
3 times a week do 10 minutes of Erect Stretching . Erect stretching will cement length gains very quickly.

Attach your SiliStretcher at medium tension you will wear for as long as possible to help cement stretching sessions. The idea is to allow the tissue to heal in a fully stretched position. As the morning stretch is wearing off we are turning up the tension on the SiliStretcher with each bathroom break. If you are able to go 4 sets, that is four hours with each hour being a bit more demanding, is a smart way to introduce the proper use of the the amazing machine the SizeDoctor is! 4 hours is a good number of logged hours, considering it is in addition to your morning stretch session, I think it will be very abundant and productive!


Girth Program: 5x5x3
5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

Attach SilliRing to retain girth
 
First 2 weeks LENGTH and GIRTH
Stretching Routine:
5 Minutes Bundled Stretches
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds x 3

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds x 3
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

After this length workout, which should take approximately 30 minutes, you will need to attach the SiliStretcher , SizeDoctor , SizeGenetics Or any good ADS . Learn this, love it, embrace it and become one with it! This is vital and must happen directly after workout. Stretch your penis to it's full flaccid stretched length and hold that position for as long as possible.


5 minutes doing Bundled Stretches
100 strong, upward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong, downward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong, upward, erect jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
100 strong downward jelqs
1 sixty second Slow Squash jelq
Put on cock ring to heal

Now it is time for sleep and I want you to be doing Penis Enlargement then too. The cock ring should be removed, lightly stretched and massage your penis and use the Testical Heralth Massage and Stretch , this will increase your flaccid size very quickly making it heavier and hanging lower and longer. After this you will use your SiliStretcher in it’s passive mode to sleep while elongated.

after two weeks


Using your LengthMaster 30 seconds for each stretch
4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles stretches
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right
Rotaries: 25 Cranks
3 times a week do 10 minutes of Erect Stretching . Erect stretching will cement length gains very quickly.

Attach your SiliStretcher at medium tension you will wear for as long as possible to help cement stretching sessions. The idea is to allow the tissue to heal in a fully stretched position. As the morning stretch is wearing off we are turning up the tension on the SiliStretcher with each bathroom break. If you are able to go 4 sets, that is four hours with each hour being a bit more demanding, is a smart way to introduce the proper use of the the amazing machine the SizeDoctor is! 4 hours is a good number of logged hours, considering it is in addition to your morning stretch session, I think it will be very abundant and productive!


Girth Program: 5x5x3
5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

5 Minute Slow Squash Jelq
5 Minutes in the MityVacat full intensity

Attach SilliRing to retain girth
Thank you . You said previously there is an additional discount on the srt group and you customer service say there is no extra discount. Do you help with that?
 
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I did. I sent a message to a service to sales@mattersofsize.com. Few of them needed a discount for me. The SRT package told me the discount does not apply to the package.

I am sorry my brother he was not able to discount any further. If he would’ve discounted more we would’ve lost money. I wish there were something I could do and I tried everything I could. My deepest apologies.
 
I am sorry my brother he was not able to discount any further. If he would’ve discounted more we would’ve lost money. I wish there were something I could do and I tried everything I could. My deepest apologies.
Thank you brother for the effort and effort for me and for the members help you thanks from my heart. I will wait for me to collect the money and buy soon, maybe one day it will become cheaper, now I will go buy from bm from the official website because it allows free shipping to all over the world and wait for black friday for me buy srt peach maybe there is a discount
 
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Thank you brother for the effort and effort for me and for the members help you thanks from my heart. I will wait for me to collect the money and buy soon, maybe one day it will become cheaper, now I will go buy from bm from the official website because it allows free shipping to all over the world and wait for black friday for me buy srt peach maybe there is a discount

And if you want to start now you can go with the newbie routine until you get your tools. If you can get your BM with free shipping go for it. Then when you get that we can at least start the SRT girth portion
 
And if you want to start now you can go with the newbie routine until you get your tools. If you can get your BM with free shipping go for it. Then when you get that we can at least start the SRT girth portion
You're right, I'll start in the beginner routine when BM arrives
 
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May I communicate with you directly?

No I do not do any private messages I only speak in public so everybody else benefits from what I say. When I was taking private messages and emails I would get thousands every week and I could never keep up with anything so I made the rule that if you want my advice you need to ask for it in the forum or in the discord chat.
 
No I do not do any private messages I only speak in public so everybody else benefits from what I say. When I was taking private messages and emails I would get thousands every week and I could never keep up with anything so I made the rule that if you want my advice you need to ask for it in the forum or in the discord chat.
Thank you if you need any help, I will get back to you here
 
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Hi
I've been pulling stretching jelqing for a while now, but the last six months been doing lots of things which includes all the above plus pumping rolling and now hanging .
When I started I was about 5 quarter length wise and possibly 4 three quarters girth there abouts, the reason I'm a bit vague is I didn't measure as much then as I do now.
I use to grab hold and just pull and squeeze and drag on it at every opportunity that was going but now I'm more focused on goaĺ and end result, that being said don't get me wrong I still like to stretch when I'm not training which brings me to my measurements now fully pulled out from public bone is about 6 half inches girth erect is just over five inches erect it's about 6 and a bit inches.
My wife has noticed the difference which is a great boost to mans ego I can tell you.
Even though I'm at those measurements my goal is about 8 to 9 inches in length and about 6 in girth I'm 64 years of age my sex drive is healthy and now I'm on my wanger journey and I love every minute of it.
I have just made my own hanger and have started a couple of weeks ago, thank you and everyone for accepting me into your group I'm here to learn from everyone.
Thank you basicbri2612
 
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64 years old and still kicking ass in bed! Is this you skateboarding? ?
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No sorry not me I can't skateboard to save my life, I'm more of a cycle man when I get the chance and Defoe a car man as well I did try to roller skate once and spent more time on my arse than upright lol
Thanks for the comment DLD though
 
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No sorry not me I can't skateboard to save my life, I'm more of a cycle man when I get the chance and Defoe a car man as well I did try to roller skate once and spent more time on my arse than upright lol
Thanks for the comment DLD though


I love cars! I spend countless hours on the couch ?! Thank God you can do PE while chillin on the couch!
 
Hey everyone,

I've been a window watcher of the PE community for many years, a decade now that i think about it. I've always been fascinated and interested in the culture and support. I've never had the privacy, confidence or finance to set out on this journey faithfully, until recent years.

My starting stats are:

F-L: 4.25"
NBPF-SL: 6 1/8"
BPFL-SL: 7.75"
NBPE-L: 6.75"
BPE-L: 7 5/8"

F-G: 5 5/16"
MSE-G: 6"
BSE-G: 6.5"

Erect Goal:

NBPE-L: 9" (overshoot)
NBPE-L: 8.5" (permanent)

I'm grateful for what I've had growing up, but have always been interested in growing him when i learned that it was actually capable.

I just got my first pump MITYVAC HYDROVAC yesterday, and am on day two of pumping. I'll go into the details of the experience elsewhere, but to start, it's nice to get to know you all soon!
 
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Hey everyone,

I've been a window watcher of the PE community for many years, a decade now that i think about it. I've always been fascinated and interested in the culture and support. I've never had the privacy, confidence or finance to set out on this journey faithfully, until recent years.

My starting stats are:

F-L: 4.25"
NBPF-SL: 6 1/8"
BPFL-SL: 7.75"
NBPE-L: 6.75"
BPE-L: 7 5/8"

F-G: 5 5/16"
MSE-G: 6"
BSE-G: 6.5"

Erect Goal:

NBPE-L: 9" (overshoot)
NBPE-L: 8.5" (permanent)

I'm grateful for what I've had growing up, but have always been interested in growing him when i learned that it was actually capable.

I just got my first pump MITYVAC HYDROVAC yesterday, and am on day two of pumping. I'll go into the details of the experience elsewhere, but to start, it's nice to get to know you all soon!

welcome to the Brotherhood my friend! I’m glad that you finally have decided to jump in. you picked up a great pump and I really suggest that you use it according to the SRT routine called the 5×5×3. I also hope you read through the entire thread as there is a lot of good information there to create a Routine. If you need any help with this please just ask??
 
welcome to the Brotherhood my friend! I’m glad that you finally have decided to jump in. you picked up a great pump and I really suggest that you use it according to the SRT routine called the 5×5×3. I also hope you read through the entire thread as there is a lot of good information there to create a Routine. If you need any help with this please just ask??

This is an incredibly detailed and comprehensive routine! Thank you so so much! Is there a specific place to ask? I assume on the Pumping threads? For instance, I'm really bad at using the Silisleeves and am either too dense or too thick for the sizes that came with my Hydrovac. The suction dam was totally my bad, no common sense about negative pressure.
 
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Hi im jonathan im new here looking to gain some lenght and serious girth where do i start how long does it take to start seeing real results
 
Hi im jonathan im new here looking to gain some lenght and serious girth where do i start how long does it take to start seeing real results


Welcome my friend, your in the right thread, click on the following highlighted words to look at the best starting routine, both Newbie and the SRT will get you up and running in no time.

Make your self a progress thread in routines so we can see and support your journey as you progress. In terms of noticinv gains this varys amongst every man. If you start committed and consistant in a really good routine theres a very good chance you will see results within the first 3 months. Bug again without that consistancy and dedication it will be hard to come by and this is where many fail. Hope all goes well
 
This is an incredibly detailed and comprehensive routine! Thank you so so much! Is there a specific place to ask? I assume on the Pumping threads? For instance, I'm really bad at using the Silisleeves and am either too dense or too thick for the sizes that came with my Hydrovac. The suction dam was totally my bad, no common sense about negative pressure.

ouch! Send a message to Lightning at sales@mattersofsize.com
 
Hello everyone Ben here. Pretty sure we are all here for the similar reasons.

I've recently purchased the SRT system excluding the Infrared lamp and the weights.

My current size is:
BPEL: 6.5-6.7in-ish
EG:4.5-..4.8 around Base

Hoping to reach between 7-8 without pressing and a Girth of 5.5-6.

Already used the Hydropump and obtained an average Girth of about 5.5 (actually was near 6 once and surprised the fuck out of myself) close to base. Rest of the shaft was around 5.2ish. Pretty sure most of increase was attributed to fluid retention . I have been doing the girth part of the SRT until my silistretcher arrives. I have spoke with customer service and they informed my why it has not arrived. Also, both of my silisleeves have ripped. My girth is not huge at all. Seems these bands are not as durable as I thought. The thicker sleeve broke on the third use for me. However I do see this Band as useful.

I did see better results from pumping when I used the sleeve too.

Looking to get a decent routine put together for myself in regards to my goals. I have been doing the newbie routine also. Honestly I have noticed slight growth already, however I feel my real gains will come once I receive the silistretcher . Have been seeing some gains from erect stretching with the MityVac when hydropumping too.

I really want Girth. Not really worried so much about length atm. If I can put the work in and reach close to 6 by July 15thish that would be lovely. I know many say dont worry about the numbers, but we have targets. That keeps the enthusiasm within.

Also I am curious about if my cylinder is a good size for what I hope to gain (6in). I have the 2x9.25 cylinder. and was wondering do I need to go higher? Lastly, with persistence, are my goals obtainable by September 1?

Feel free to throw tips or words of encouragement. Appreciate all and cant wait to start my Journey!


Short term goal Ideally by Aug 10:
NBPEL:7 in
EG: >5.5 in (definitely will happen, probably within a couple weeks.)

LT PE goal
NBPEL: 7.5 in (if I reach 8in I wont complain)
EG: 6-6.2in
 
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