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Branhammer said:
After looking into bundled stretches, I wonder, is it advisable to do bundled stretches using a traction device? My assumption is that that would be potentially dangerous, especially for a beginner, but I haven’t seen anything posted about it.
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You should do bundled stretches before you get into your extender or ADS (All Day Stretcher).
It's important to loosen up Tunica albuginea before you are using these kind of stretchers.
Preferably you would use the LengthMaster 3.0 to do this, but you can make do with, Power Assist 2 or a Broomstick as well.

The Tunica albuginea is thick, so if you loosen it up before you are getting into an extender or an ADS, you will see more temporary elongation and with time this will translate itself into permanent length gains, both in flaccid length and erect length.
 
Thanks a lot guys! Before coming here, I knew only about basic manual stretching and basic jelqs, neither of which gave me any results at all. I had never heard of a traction device and thought pumps were bullshit wastes of money. I didn’t know anything about the science behind concepts like preventing turtling and recovering in the elongated/engorged state. Now I understand that you need ALL of these things combined and each thing has its own individual, and equally important, purpose. I feel like I should be able to add that inch of length and half inch of girth I’m wanting faster than I thought possible.
 
Branhammer said:
Thanks a lot guys! Before coming here, I knew only about basic manual stretching and basic jelqs, neither of which gave me any results at all. I had never heard of a traction device and thought pumps were bullshit wastes of money. I didn’t know anything about the science behind concepts like preventing turtling and recovering in the elongated/engorged state. Now I understand that you need ALL of these things combined and each thing has its own individual, and equally important, purpose. I feel like I should be able to add that inch of length and half inch of girth I’m wanting faster than I thought possible.
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You're welcome.
I believe in doing PE (Penis Enlargement) as effective as possible, SRT goes through all the steps to consider, to make it as effective as possible.

For example: Just having tight underwear and tight pants on, can make your gains slow or not coming at all. You don't want any compression at all.
Also by not keeping your tissue warm enough, while actively stretching (ADS = not active stretching) you can limit your elongation during and after exercise, which limits how fast you will gain.

Temporary gains lead to permanent gains. If you can get your room temperature higher, this would be optimal. I'm using heating fans and MOSRED (for healing and faster growth) for this.

There are many factors to consider...but when you understand the theory of it all, you have the potential to gain as fast as possible. This is the reason I always refer new brothers to the SRT.

You are correct, with the support of this brotherhood you will get to your goal size as fast as possible.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
You're welcome.
I believe in doing PE (Penis Enlargement) as effective as possible, SRT goes through all the steps to consider, to make it as effective as possible.

For example: Just having tight underwear and tight pants on, can make your gains slow or not coming at all. You don't want any compression at all.
Also by not keeping your tissue warm enough, while actively stretching (ADS = not active stretching) you can limit your elongation during and after exercise, which limits how fast you will gain.

Temporary gains lead to permanent gains. If you can get your room temperature higher, this would be optimal. I'm using heating fans and MOSRED (for healing and faster growth) for this.

There are many factors to consider...but when you understand the theory of it all, you have the potential to gain as fast as possible. This is the reason I always refer new brothers to the SRT.

You are correct, with the support of this brotherhood you will get to your goal size as fast as possible.
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I’ve been going commando every day since I came to this site haha.

So I have a question about the gains being “permanent.”Can gains be permanent in the sense that at some point, you can stop doing PE? Or do you pretty much have to maintain forever and if you don’t, you’ll eventually lose all gains and go back to being the size you started? Or, is there a way to “lock in” a goal size so that you never drop below it again even if you stop PE entirely. For example, if my goal is 7.5”x5.75”, but I surpass that and get to say…9”x6.5”…and then stop, is it possible that I’d lose gains but only fall to my original goal of 7.5? Or is it likely I’d fall all the way back to my starting size of 6.5”x5.25”? And what kind of maintenance frequency is required to simply maintain?
 
Branhammer said:
I’ve been going commando every day since I came to this site haha.

So I have a question about the gains being “permanent.”Can gains be permanent in the sense that at some point, you can stop doing PE? Or do you pretty much have to maintain forever and if you don’t, you’ll eventually lose all gains and go back to being the size you started? Or, is there a way to “lock in” a goal size so that you never drop below it again even if you stop PE entirely. For example, if my goal is 7.5”x5.75”, but I surpass that and get to say…9”x6.5”…and then stop, is it possible that I’d lose gains but only fall to my original goal of 7.5? Or is it likely I’d fall all the way back to my starting size of 6.5”x5.25”? And what kind of maintenance frequency is required to simply maintain?
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If you cement your gains they will stay. That is why I like bundled stretches so much, when the Tunica albuginea is loosen up, there is no going back and your gains will stay.

Going past 0.5" in length (BPEL) is a good guideline. Doing some lighter lengthwork some time after reaching your goal is a good recommendation. Stretching your penis and scrotum also promote penile health. So personally I will stretch the rest of my life.

I also prefer active stretching with my hands, in comparison to passive stretching (Extender). An extender is completely diffrent from an ADS. An ADS you are supposed to put on after some manual stretches, in order to keep the temporary elongation you got after the session for a long time...this will promote faster gains. If you only use an ADS the gains will come much slower.

You have much more control. If you want fast length gains, LengthMaster 3.0 is the best tool for the job. You have so much control with that device.

Girth is the same concept. With time the temporary expansion will become permanent.
 
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Branhammer said:
Hey all, FNG here. 39 years old and recently separated. I am fine with my size (6.5” x 5.25”) but I always wanted to give this PE thing a try. My ex would’ve been weirded out by it.

But now I’m free, have my own place, and I’m seeing an amazing new woman and having the best sex of my life. I’m the best she’s ever had (and I know it) but I also know I’m not the biggest she’s had. I just happen to know how to use what I have better than the other guys.

I’m already doing things to her in bed that she never even imagined before she met me but I’m ALWAYS trying to find ways to satisfy her even more. The only area of improvement in bed I can figure out right now is to give her that TRULY big dick that literally knocks the wind out of her and makes her feel it in her stomach.

I’m above average, but I’m not at that level. I happen to know she did enjoy being fucked by an 8” dick even though she said I’m better in bed (I believe her because she dumped him after a few meetups with me). So I figure if I can give it to her the way I know she likes AND have a bigger dick, she’ll be in heaven. I want that for her. I want to give that to her. I see a future with her.

So, I started by purchasing a Penimaster Pro. I definitely like it and I have a desk job where I can wear it up to 10 hours a day at work. After I bought it I discovered this forum. I saw that the Silistretcher is better but oh well…too late now and my Penimaster functions as advertised. But after lurker a bit I DID opt to buy the MitiVac rather than a Bathmate and I’m very very glad I did.

I’ve only had the Penimaster a week and the MitiVac for 4 days but so far my routine has been:

Penimaster for 2-8 hours a day with short breaks here and there where I use a silisleve during those breaks.
MitiVac for 2-3 five minutes sessions at no higher pressure than about 7.5 while I get the hang of it. Siliring during my rest from that.
At night, I’ve been needing my dick to be functional for my new girl so I’m not really doing anything PE-related after about 8 pm.

I’m not even going to bother measuring progress right now. I’m in good physical shape and one of the things I realized early on with that is that the key to success is to not focus on results and just adopt the attitude of “this is just what I do now.” Like going to work. It’s just part of a lifestyle. And I intend to maintain that same attitude for PE. What I will say is I’m already noticing more frequent, harder, and thicker erections after only a week.

Sorry for the long-winded introduction. Just excited to start this journey and give my new girl the best AND biggest she’s ever had.

I’d love to hear what you guys think of my routine. Like I said, I expect this to be a long process, so I’m just taking it slow and listening to my body for now.
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Sounds like a good routine you’ve got going, I’m pretty much doing the exact same as you do only I use a Male Edge and Jes extender and just yesterday started incorporating SSJ’s and pumping into my routine again, in the evening

You’ve already gotten all the tips and pointers you need so will end by just saying; «welcome to the brotherhood» and sure hope you see some quick newbie gains, best of luck and remember to stay consistent.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
You should do bundled stretches before you get into your extender or ADS (All Day Stretcher).
It's important to loosen up Tunica albuginea before you are using these kind of stretchers.
Preferably you would use the LengthMaster 3.0 to do this, but you can make do with, Power Assist 2 or a Broomstick as well.

The Tunica albuginea is thick, so if you loosen it up before you are getting into an extender or an ADS, you will see more temporary elongation and with time this will translate itself into permanent length gains, both in flaccid length and erect length.
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What if you do Twist your penis a few times on the ADS? I.e. BUNDLED STRETCH & ADS at the same time
Will this work?
Had anyone tried this yet?
 
Crispytongue said:
What if you do Twist your penis a few times on the ADS? I.e. BUNDLED STRETCH & ADS at the same time
Will this work?
Had anyone tried this yet?
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The problem is that you twist the vains in your penis, and if you keep this bundled position for to long...well I don't belive that is any good.
The reason I belive this is, because you will probably cut off the blood circulation in your penis.

Maybe bundle a little bit, but I don't personally see benefits with this approach. You need to bundle hard, in order to loosen up the tunica albuginea in all 3 dimensions.
Holding a bundled stretch for 5 minutes are not a problem, but for several hours I don't know, and I don't belive we have any data on that, and if this approach really are beneficial.

See this album for reference in anatomy.
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Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Sounds like a good routine you’ve got going, I’m pretty much doing the exact same as you do only I use a Male Edge and Jes extender and just yesterday started incorporating SSJ’s and pumping into my routine again, in the evening

You’ve already gotten all the tips and pointers you need so will end by just saying; «welcome to the brotherhood» and sure hope you see some quick newbie gains, best of luck and remember to stay consistent.
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Thanks! Since coming here, I’ve also added 30 second bundled stretches in every direction, 180 degree twists both cw and ccw, immediately before putting on the extender. I’ve also added SSJ between every pump set. I’ve already gained .25” in length and .25” in girth in just a couple weeks. I’m excited to see how much further I can go with this.
 
Branhammer said:
Thanks! Since coming here, I’ve also added 30 second bundled stretches in every direction, 180 degree twists both cw and ccw, immediately before putting on the extender. I’ve also added SSJ between every pump set. I’ve already gained .25” in length and .25” in girth in just a couple weeks. I’m excited to see how much further I can go with this.
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Glad to hear you’ve already gained, means that what you do is working. And I think I’ll start incorporating some bundled 30 sec hold stretches in every direction as well since I have gained length from that before.

Good supplement to the extending that we do and may speed up the gaining process as well.
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Glad to hear you’ve already gained, means that what you do is working. And I think I’ll start incorporating some bundled 30 sec hold stretches in every direction as well since I have gained length from that before.

Good supplement to the extending that we do and may speed up the gaining process as well.
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You will see faster gains.
I recommend holding the bundle stretches for at least 1 minute.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
You will see faster gains.
I recommend holding the bundle stretches for at least 1 minute.
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Then 1 min it is, will try to do it everytime before I put my extender back on again.

Just do one to two rounds of 1 min hold bundled stretches in 5 directions straight down, to the left, to the right, straight up and a straight out dynamic hold bundled stretch as I like to call it.

Will do this starting today as I really wanna speed up the gaining process.
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Then 1 min it is, will try to do it everytime before I put my extender back on again.

Just do one to two rounds of 1 min hold bundled stretches in 5 directions straight down, to the left, to the right, straight up and a straight out dynamic hold bundled stretch as I like to call it.

Will do this starting today as I really wanna speed up the gaining process.
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What about doing even more directions.
...like this.

🔗 LENGTHMASTER 3 - Beginner routine.
Disregard the the word beginner.
This is a good routine to soften up the tissue.
 
Will see if I pull my Lengthmaster 3 out again, to begin with I think I’ll just use my hands and when that stops working I got the LM3 to make the stretches even more intense.

Just did two rounds of bundled stretches 1 mins hold. First round bundling to the left in 5 directions then the second round to the right in 5 directions, took me about 13 mins in total.

Did it in front of my IR lamp and let me tell you, getting in my extender at maximum traction was a helluva lot easier with my penis being already stretched out and warm.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
It's possible to do.
But keep this in mind that lengthgains will come in bursts.
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Yes Sir, I know as all my length gains has come in those bursts you mentioned. Can’t wait for my next length burst to come and will do everything I can to make them come faster.

Especially now that my Doc just told me I’m getting a afternoon dose of Ritalin 10mg that will give me that extra little boost of energy in the evenings after my full body workouts. Already on max dose of 80mg long acting Ritalin but the effects don’t last for 10-12 hours on me, so an extra evening boost is needed and I finally got it, wuhuu.
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Yes Sir, I know as all my length gains has come in those bursts you mentioned. Can’t wait for my next length burst to come and will do everything I can to make them come faster.

Especially now that my Doc just told me I’m getting a afternoon dose of Ritalin 10mg that will give me that extra little boost of energy in the evenings after my full body workouts. Already on max dose of 80mg long acting Ritalin but the effects don’t last for 10-12 hours on me, so an extra evening boost is needed and I finally got it, wuhuu.
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I count the bursts in 0.5 cm. 0.1 cm does not even register in my brain (but it's always good). But due to my banana penis (hard to measure) only 0.5 cm is counting 😁

Wonderful! Let's get those centimeters.
Remember I got 2.7 Inch (6.9 cm) within 5 months.
So 1 cm per month is highly possible....no limitations on your mind.

Lets get that monstrous penis women are curious on.

Good you got the help you needed. I know from personal experiences that you sometimes need to choke out your doctor in order to get the help you deserve (just a joke).

Take care
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
I count the bursts in 0.5 cm. 0.1 cm does not even register in my brain (but it's always good). But due to my banana penis (hard to measure) only 0.5 cm is counting 😁

Wonderful! Let's get those centimeters.
Remember I got 2.7 Inch (6.9 cm) within 5 months.
So 1 cm per month is highly possible....no limitations on your mind.

Lets get that monstrous penis women are curious on.

Good you got the help you needed. I know from personal experiences that you sometimes need to choke out your doctor in order to get the help you deserve (just a joke).

Take care
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Thank you for the words of encouragement brother, knowing that you gained that much that fast really gives me hope and faith in that I can do it myself too.

And yes, we’re both definitely going to have that type of penis in the end.😁

Luckily I’ve now got the best Doc I have ever had, she has helped me with absolutely everything I have asked her to help me with. Like HCG and Nolvadex for my TRT protocol and she has zero problems with me self injecting the Nebido/testosterone either.
And now she quickly made sure I could get an evening Ritalin booster dose as well by calling a psychiatrist and getting advice from them on how to do it . I simply love having her as my Doc as I feel like she takes me seriously and we work good togheter. If she can’t answer my requests or give me what I ask for she always calls an expert or two to get the info she needs. I have such respect for her too and would never go against her advice.

Take care yourself and have a good night
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Thank you for the words of encouragement brother, knowing that you gained that much that fast really gives me hope and faith in that I can do it myself too.

And yes, we’re both definitely going to have that type of penis in the end.😁

Luckily I’ve now got the best Doc I have ever had, she has helped me with absolutely everything I have asked her to help me with. Like HCG and Nolvadex for my TRT protocol and she has zero problems with me self injecting the Nebido/testosterone either.
And now she quickly made sure I could get an evening Ritalin booster dose as well by calling a psychiatrist and getting advice from them on how to do it . I simply love having her as my Doc as I feel like she takes me seriously and we work good togheter. If she can’t answer my requests or give me what I ask for she always calls an expert or two to get the info she needs. I have such respect for her too and would never go against her advice.

Take care yourself and have a good night
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@squirt_inducer_man is a prime example of using SRT to make massive gains
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Thank you for the words of encouragement brother, knowing that you gained that much that fast really gives me hope and faith in that I can do it myself too.

And yes, we’re both definitely going to have that type of penis in the end.😁

Luckily I’ve now got the best Doc I have ever had, she has helped me with absolutely everything I have asked her to help me with. Like HCG and Nolvadex for my TRT protocol and she has zero problems with me self injecting the Nebido/testosterone either.
And now she quickly made sure I could get an evening Ritalin booster dose as well by calling a psychiatrist and getting advice from them on how to do it . I simply love having her as my Doc as I feel like she takes me seriously and we work good togheter. If she can’t answer my requests or give me what I ask for she always calls an expert or two to get the info she needs. I have such respect for her too and would never go against her advice.

Take care yourself and have a good night
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The mind is the biggest limit in how fast a brother can gain. So I'm confident, I know you have a strong and determined mindset.

That doctor sounds amazing.
I may have to move.
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It's a little diffrent structured where I live, so there is not possible that one doctor can help me with everything.

This is the reason I needed to self educate myself so much in the medical field. Read really hard books in English, until English where no problem for me any longer. I love my hyperfocused mind.


Take care of you two.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
The mind is the biggest limit in how fast a brother can gain. So I'm confident, I know you have a strong and determined mindset.

That doctor sounds amazing.
I may have to move.
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It's a little diffrent structured where I live, so there is not possible that one doctor can help me with everything.

This is the reason I needed to self educate myself so much in the medical field. Read really hard books in English, until English where no problem for me any longer. I love my hyperfocused mind.


Take care of you two.
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Yepp, I got really lucky for once by getting her as my Doctor.

Hope you get educated enough, which I know you will, to get whatever help you might need from a Doctor.

Have struggled with Doctors for years in the past who simply would not listen to me, so I sure know how difficult it can be brother.
 
Abdiel Bull Berg said:
Yepp, I got really lucky for once by getting her as my Doctor.

Hope you get educated enough, which I know you will, to get whatever help you might need from a Doctor.

Have struggled with Doctors for years in the past who simply would not listen to me, so I sure know how difficult it can be brother.
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Yeah! Some of them get stuck in the old ways. I have seen this multiple times. But some really see you as well. There are some prejudice involved for the doctors that get stuck in the old ways.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Yeah! Some of them get stuck in the old ways. I have seen this multiple times. But some really see you as well. There are some prejudice involved for the doctors that get stuck in the old ways.
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Exactly, that’s why I’m so lucky as I believe she’s in her early twenties and newly educated and also willing to listen and take into account what I’m telling her.
 
Hello, boys. I've been lurking for some time now gobbling up as much info as I can. I started out decently long (7.25" bpel) but at only 5.25" girth, I was always aware that I could use more there. I started with ADS and weight hanging but quickly realized after reading the forums that my method of choice would be pumping 5x5x3. I've seen about 0.25" in girth and possibly 0.25" in length so far. My minimum goal is 8x6 (cliché, I know,) but I wouldn't hate 8.5x6.5. Not looking for a monster. I want to give pleasure, not pain! I'm happily married, have always had pretty good sex life, but I've had to make up orally for my lack of girth. My wife has already "responded positively," so I couldn't be happier. I have had pubic bone tenderness as well as lymph duct inflammation/hardness. Basically, I rest when I need to but aim for 5 on, 2 off. Mostly introducing myself but also open to feedback!
 
Also, I do my 5*5*3 @ 5 inhg. I believe I may have induced the lymph duct hardness/inflammation by being too aggressive in raising vacuum pressure to 7 inhg (within 2-3 weeks,) but it could also be the result of too tight a grip during SSJ? I've been using massage to work out the hardness/inflammation.
 
Mooj said:
Also, I do my 5*5*3 @ 5 inhg. I believe I may have induced the lymph duct hardness/inflammation by being too aggressive in raising vacuum pressure to 7 inhg (within 2-3 weeks,) but it could also be the result of too tight a grip during SSJ? I've been using massage to work out the hardness/inflammation.
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Deep tissue massage and heat will help get you through this fast
 
DLD said:
Deep tissue massage and heat will help get you through this fast
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Thanks, DLD. I have a warmer and have been massaging. Its hard to get good pressure on the duct itself when not erect. I read comments on other discussion site of symptoms that matched mine that it was really only effective erect. Frustrating because I try to juggle between SSJ and massage while doing erect work. Sorry if I'm discussing this too much in the general newbie forum.
 
It does feel like a thin wire but is not blue, so I'm under the impression it is a lymph duct, not a vein. It pops out from the top base and floats along the top right toward the glans and then splits at a junction just below my coronal ridge. The T wraps circumferentially just under the coronal ridge. The length of the duct seems to free-float beneath the skin because it repositions when I massage it. I was more afraid at first and stopped for about a week. One day I started to massage the duct and found that after massaging near the base, the duct/vein seemed to subside. It stayed gone until I resumed PE that night. I believe it didn't come up with mthe initial 5 minute pump but appeared aftery first SSJ. My OK grip might be too hard?
 
Mooj said:
Hello, boys. I've been lurking for some time now gobbling up as much info as I can. I started out decently long (7.25" bpel) but at only 5.25" girth, I was always aware that I could use more there. I started with ADS and weight hanging but quickly realized after reading the forums that my method of choice would be pumping 5x5x3. I've seen about 0.25" in girth and possibly 0.25" in length so far. My minimum goal is 8x6 (cliché, I know,) but I wouldn't hate 8.5x6.5. Not looking for a monster. I want to give pleasure, not pain! I'm happily married, have always had pretty good sex life, but I've had to make up orally for my lack of girth. My wife has already "responded positively," so I couldn't be happier. I have had pubic bone tenderness as well as lymph duct inflammation/hardness. Basically, I rest when I need to but aim for 5 on, 2 off. Mostly introducing myself but also open to feedback!
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Welcome to the brotherhood, brother.

Just stay consistent with your routine and Ye Shall Gain.😁
 
If it is wire you want to take a break and continue with And heat. This sounds like a thrombosed vain.
 
DLD said:
If it is wire you want to take a break and continue with And heat. This sounds like a thrombosed vain.
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That sucks! I thought it might be at first but then reading other stories, that lack of blue color made me think it was a clogged duct. How long does it usually take to normalize?
 
Mooj said:
That sucks! I thought it might be at first but then reading other stories, that lack of blue color made me think it was a clogged duct. How long does it usually take to normalize?
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About a week. Use deep tissue massage and heat to heal faster
 
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