bigdex28;533293 said:
Is this true? Where did you get this information?
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Is this true? Where did you get this information?
bigdex28;533655 said:
Last link doesn't work but thanks. I will look into this.
Hey Mikeshlort. Here's another good link on TB-500 and the topic of hair growth.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/r...super-thread-log-what-where-when-why-how.html
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/r...super-thread-log-what-where-when-why-how.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/20013654
The above link says that TB4 increases tumour growth and metastasis which makes sense as it increases blood vessel development. I take back my recommendation of taking it to reverse baldness. I'd wait until there were more human tests. I'd be careful with injecting it into the penis too.
The three stages of cancer development are: dysplasia > hyperplasia > metastasis
IGF1 increases hyperplasia and TB4 increases endothelial cell growth (blood vessel cells) and cell migration which could lead to metastasis.
I'd love to do a cycle of a HgH releaser and TB4 but I'd be worried what damage I could do.
The above link says that TB4 increases tumour growth and metastasis which makes sense as it increases blood vessel development. I take back my recommendation of taking it to reverse baldness. I'd wait until there were more human tests. I'd be careful with injecting it into the penis too.
The three stages of cancer development are: dysplasia > hyperplasia > metastasis
IGF1 increases hyperplasia and TB4 increases endothelial cell growth (blood vessel cells) and cell migration which could lead to metastasis.
I'd love to do a cycle of a HgH releaser and TB4 but I'd be worried what damage I could do.
Thanks guys, awesome stuff. My anal beard is going to be kicking.
hey DLD and Snake, i may have a gift for you in exchange for all the work you two have done.
I skipped reading the last 10 pages of this thread because i came here for KS's info but so many of the less than spiritually endowed people are hijacking this wonderful mecca of information.
I'd like to say that KS you lost me when you started taking so many supplements and furthermore when you began doing injections, but hey, to each his own.
Look into something called Melatonin. I still stand by my theory that Middle eastern cultures were the ones to get a complete regimen of Penis Enlargement(Hanging, Diet, and Melatonin/ Vitamin D intake). and the the jamaican population is mostly northern african trans-atlantic slaves who have an abundance of middle eastern genetics. this theory is supported by the fact that there are plenty of white guys who can trace their ancesttry back to the middle east who have just as big penises, with one difference, that being the intake of sunlight, and this the body converting it into melatonin. Is it really a mistery why all the biggest and strongest athletes are born and raised in the southern states (white and black)?
I've been taking melatonin for about 1 year now and have seen my dick grown up to 3/4 inches length and some added girth which than i had no way of measuring. I can tell you this because I use to only have so much of my dick emerginf from 2 hands and now it is more. also my dick is thicker... and this is all without Penis Enlargement. I have begun hanging with the snake hanger and moved from 5 pounds in beginning of january to 12.5 pounds now and can tell you it is working. Thanks for you not only putting in the time but telling us.
also, not to bash your progress, or for you to think i am jelous, even though i kind of am... you humble me, in other words. but to all the guys who are so hardpressed about their dick size and what women want. I have roughly a 6.5 bpel with a mean curve and some nice girth. never had a problem keeping a female. If you ask a question of "am i the biggest or one of" some females might tell you you are small. It might even happen to snake in the future. You must remember women are vulnerable, protective creatures. if you know how to make them feel secure they will not have a need to protect their own ego's to prevent themselves from being used, abused, and forgotten. So when you ask that question, am i the biggest, what could be the most one sided relationship, in which the female feels unwanted and only used as an object for sex, there she has the ability to turn all that pain around and make you suffer by casually saying, No i have had much bigger. wehter it is true of not. Who knows, snake might fall in love with a female who needs to feels pelvic grinding but can only take 6.5 inches of length, and then shes going to read this post an call me
lol. just be the best you can be.
And take some advice from the notorious milf nina hartley, she says ideal penis size is 5-7 inches. Rachel starr says she doesnt like huge dicks. none the less I am still hanging to get 8"+. I just try not to stress it. Dont let penis envy be a problem with your relationship because a woman will be quick to realize that and protect herself by telling you you have a small one. After all, women are the creators of the "am i fat question". You cannot beat them, unless it is with your dick.
and no offense to snake, if i was single and had what he had i would be doing the same thing. but do you really want your emotions/feelings to reflect what a girl at the bar says when she wants to fuck you after seeing/hearing about your dick... either she has no respect for herself and In my opinoin would make a terrible mother, or she is on her last leg and is desperate to do anything she can for the last bid of good dick that comes her way. shit, some of these girls might have already fucked reeko many times but told snake he was the biggest just to try to keep him. but like i said no disrespect to you snake, i just want some of these overly sensitive "standing on the edge of the heterosexual cliff looking down into the waters of homo erotica" to stop posting these depressing and degrading posts about women. Women are the best thing in life its the reason we do everything. And i Am seriously angered at having to read the last 30 pages of bulshit just to get to this point.
KS, keep up the good work and good luck with the women. I respect the fact you tell them, "Im just using you the same way you are using me, lets not make this about feelings.".
DLD, look into melatoning for the P.M. pill. It also aids in sleep.
I skipped reading the last 10 pages of this thread because i came here for KS's info but so many of the less than spiritually endowed people are hijacking this wonderful mecca of information.
I'd like to say that KS you lost me when you started taking so many supplements and furthermore when you began doing injections, but hey, to each his own.
Look into something called Melatonin. I still stand by my theory that Middle eastern cultures were the ones to get a complete regimen of Penis Enlargement(Hanging, Diet, and Melatonin/ Vitamin D intake). and the the jamaican population is mostly northern african trans-atlantic slaves who have an abundance of middle eastern genetics. this theory is supported by the fact that there are plenty of white guys who can trace their ancesttry back to the middle east who have just as big penises, with one difference, that being the intake of sunlight, and this the body converting it into melatonin. Is it really a mistery why all the biggest and strongest athletes are born and raised in the southern states (white and black)?
I've been taking melatonin for about 1 year now and have seen my dick grown up to 3/4 inches length and some added girth which than i had no way of measuring. I can tell you this because I use to only have so much of my dick emerginf from 2 hands and now it is more. also my dick is thicker... and this is all without Penis Enlargement. I have begun hanging with the snake hanger and moved from 5 pounds in beginning of january to 12.5 pounds now and can tell you it is working. Thanks for you not only putting in the time but telling us.
also, not to bash your progress, or for you to think i am jelous, even though i kind of am... you humble me, in other words. but to all the guys who are so hardpressed about their dick size and what women want. I have roughly a 6.5 bpel with a mean curve and some nice girth. never had a problem keeping a female. If you ask a question of "am i the biggest or one of" some females might tell you you are small. It might even happen to snake in the future. You must remember women are vulnerable, protective creatures. if you know how to make them feel secure they will not have a need to protect their own ego's to prevent themselves from being used, abused, and forgotten. So when you ask that question, am i the biggest, what could be the most one sided relationship, in which the female feels unwanted and only used as an object for sex, there she has the ability to turn all that pain around and make you suffer by casually saying, No i have had much bigger. wehter it is true of not. Who knows, snake might fall in love with a female who needs to feels pelvic grinding but can only take 6.5 inches of length, and then shes going to read this post an call me
lol. just be the best you can be.And take some advice from the notorious milf nina hartley, she says ideal penis size is 5-7 inches. Rachel starr says she doesnt like huge dicks. none the less I am still hanging to get 8"+. I just try not to stress it. Dont let penis envy be a problem with your relationship because a woman will be quick to realize that and protect herself by telling you you have a small one. After all, women are the creators of the "am i fat question". You cannot beat them, unless it is with your dick.
and no offense to snake, if i was single and had what he had i would be doing the same thing. but do you really want your emotions/feelings to reflect what a girl at the bar says when she wants to fuck you after seeing/hearing about your dick... either she has no respect for herself and In my opinoin would make a terrible mother, or she is on her last leg and is desperate to do anything she can for the last bid of good dick that comes her way. shit, some of these girls might have already fucked reeko many times but told snake he was the biggest just to try to keep him. but like i said no disrespect to you snake, i just want some of these overly sensitive "standing on the edge of the heterosexual cliff looking down into the waters of homo erotica" to stop posting these depressing and degrading posts about women. Women are the best thing in life its the reason we do everything. And i Am seriously angered at having to read the last 30 pages of bulshit just to get to this point.
KS, keep up the good work and good luck with the women. I respect the fact you tell them, "Im just using you the same way you are using me, lets not make this about feelings.".
DLD, look into melatoning for the P.M. pill. It also aids in sleep.
nice read bwc keep em coming.
hey bwc, are you reccomending vitamin d along with melatonin?
Dapper Dan;533867 said:
look at it from an evolutionary standpoint. If vitamin D promotes bone growth, wouldnt that create a stronger, and possibly larger frame? But i am in no way saying that vitamin D will have any effect in one lifespan, I was merely pointing out that hundreds of years of evolution might have tipped the gene pool.
I am however saying that melatonin might be a beneficial factor for amny reasons, one being MUCH better sleep, which is the recovery period, as well as all of the hormones that it regulates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin
BWC;534015 said:
Wow that seems like a lot. Do you have insomnia?
I took 20 mg last night (double the bottle recommended dose) and felt myself falling asleep about 25-30 min after I took them. Which is excellent because this is the feeling the over the counter sleeping pills didn't give me. If my dick grows out of it, awesome but at least I'll be well rested.
Be careful with taking too much and remember that it's for moderate use. When I did rolling shift work in a day, swing, night, day, swing, night pattern I used the stuff and it was great. Good natural sleep. No hungover feeling. As to the other...
This doesn't seem true at all. 75% of all American Blacks are of mixed black and white descent and this mix is often a 25% white to 75% black mix. They're less "African" than every other indigenous Black African population. They differences in physique come from two different sources, hybrid vitality (black and white mixed kids often have the strengths of both parents) and selective breeding for hundreds of years in the antebellum South. Most Africans are not big people with the exception of a few regions, notably Nigerians...who were NEVER enslaved or conquered by anyone in the memory of Western Civilization (they did cut a lot of deals though). Most Africans aren't amazingly athletic either, no more so than anyone else really. No one wants to talk about the eugenics aspect that's influenced the physique of Black Americans and I can understand why but it's there, absolutely.
As to melatonin, it's amazing stuff but I can't get my head around why it would affect the penis at all. Just keep in mind...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#Adverse_effects
BWC, how much are you taking of melatonin and Vit D.
This doesn't seem true at all. 75% of all American Blacks are of mixed black and white descent and this mix is often a 25% white to 75% black mix. They're less "African" than every other indigenous Black African population. They differences in physique come from two different sources, hybrid vitality (black and white mixed kids often have the strengths of both parents) and selective breeding for hundreds of years in the antebellum South. Most Africans are not big people with the exception of a few regions, notably Nigerians...who were NEVER enslaved or conquered by anyone in the memory of Western Civilization (they did cut a lot of deals though). Most Africans aren't amazingly athletic either, no more so than anyone else really. No one wants to talk about the eugenics aspect that's influenced the physique of Black Americans and I can understand why but it's there, absolutely.
As to melatonin, it's amazing stuff but I can't get my head around why it would affect the penis at all. Just keep in mind...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#Adverse_effects
BWC, how much are you taking of melatonin and Vit D.
Hey BWC. Don’t skip the last ten pages bro. I got some progress shots in there with detailed info on my protocol during the time of progress.
Good find with the melatonin. I may start using this myself.
Ok so I have some new pics of my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device. The one I was using was the 1 pound weighted sleeve. The weighted sleeve was nice but the one thing it didn’t offer was tension when I’m sitting down. I only received tension from it when standing to allow the weight to hang down through my pants.
With my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], I have my dick in a sleeve still but attached to a bungee cord. The other end of the bungee cord is attached to a Velcro band that’s wrapped around my leg. This provides me with a constant stretch to my penis when standing, walking, and sitting. You name it. I can even make the bungee cord tighter to increase the resistance. I can get from 1 pound to up to 4 to 5 pounds of resistance with this bad boy.
Definitely pleased with this [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Also I have added manual stretches back in my program but instead of using my hands, I use my vac hanger and attach it to a door handle or an immovable object. After attaching to an immovable object I lean back and let my body weight be the resistance in different angles for my stretching program. I’m now doing 15 minutes of manual vac hanger bodyweight stretches while at work in the bathroom on my 15 minute break and another 30 minutes of vac hanger bodyweight stretches during my lunch break in the bathroom.
Here are some pics below of my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] in action, some bodyweight manual stretches with my vac hanger, and an edging pic during yesterday’s extremely painful pge1 erection.
Good find with the melatonin. I may start using this myself.
Ok so I have some new pics of my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device. The one I was using was the 1 pound weighted sleeve. The weighted sleeve was nice but the one thing it didn’t offer was tension when I’m sitting down. I only received tension from it when standing to allow the weight to hang down through my pants.
With my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], I have my dick in a sleeve still but attached to a bungee cord. The other end of the bungee cord is attached to a Velcro band that’s wrapped around my leg. This provides me with a constant stretch to my penis when standing, walking, and sitting. You name it. I can even make the bungee cord tighter to increase the resistance. I can get from 1 pound to up to 4 to 5 pounds of resistance with this bad boy.
Definitely pleased with this [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. Also I have added manual stretches back in my program but instead of using my hands, I use my vac hanger and attach it to a door handle or an immovable object. After attaching to an immovable object I lean back and let my body weight be the resistance in different angles for my stretching program. I’m now doing 15 minutes of manual vac hanger bodyweight stretches while at work in the bathroom on my 15 minute break and another 30 minutes of vac hanger bodyweight stretches during my lunch break in the bathroom.
Here are some pics below of my new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] in action, some bodyweight manual stretches with my vac hanger, and an edging pic during yesterday’s extremely painful pge1 erection.
KS- can you tell us how to replicate your new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? i was also wondering where you got that weighter sleve from, and if i have about .5 less girth than you would it work for me as well?
Also I have a high LOT so i hang BTC. Would the same stuff you use to soften the tunica, help me while hanging BTC. and since I have a high LOT AND a upward curve towards the base, does this mean that my tunica is longer than the ligaments. this is what i have thought over the past few days and i completely ignore my tunica while hanging?
Without stealing the spotlight from KS let me tell you about why i believe Melatonin increased my dick size. One thing i always noticed after a tough day at the gym... I used to choose mondays for dead lifts, and do 10 sets of 10 reps at about 75% max rep. For me it was 195lbs 100 times broken up into 10 sets. then i would do a mix of abs and hyper-extensions for lower back. and every time, without fail, my EQ would only be about 80% the next day. The day after, back to normal. Same goes for legs, (i was nursing a severe high outside ankle sprain so i had to go light) where i would do 10x10 at 125 lbs. then I would move onto the leg press machine starting at 6x 45lb plates and work my way up to 14x45lb plates doing 7 reps each. Sure enough, the next day would give me the same results as the day following dead lifts. HOWEVER, immediately after doing dead lifts and squats, i could swear to you that my dick was bigger.
SO along with the fact that I do landscaping and construction 7 days a week, go to the gym 5, eat healthy. I am boosting my testosterone and working my heart like a paleolithic man. One thing to know is that muscle mass gained does not translate to dick size gained. It is more like testosterone produced instead of muscle mass gained. SO basically I was getting my fair share of natural vitamin D and melatonin and exersize. My historical knowledge then led me to see the common link between bigger dicks / sunlight intake/ and exersice. So where does melatonin come into play? I read something about children having higher levels of melatonin release during sleep and that it decreases as we grow older. I immediately linked this with every other hormone in the body and went on a hunch that it was one of the main regulators for growth during puberty. true or not it works. and what i mean about athletes in southern states, is that most high school football teams could shit on any d2 college school in the northeast. I can tell you that I feel extremely energized after a good night sleep using melatonin, like waking up ready to conquer the world. plus a better sleep means more recovery time. It may be something like psuedo-science but im not saying take melatonin and sit on your ass will make your dick grow ya know? and I certainly am not going to stop taking it.
Also I have a high LOT so i hang BTC. Would the same stuff you use to soften the tunica, help me while hanging BTC. and since I have a high LOT AND a upward curve towards the base, does this mean that my tunica is longer than the ligaments. this is what i have thought over the past few days and i completely ignore my tunica while hanging?
neognostic;534109 said:
Without stealing the spotlight from KS let me tell you about why i believe Melatonin increased my dick size. One thing i always noticed after a tough day at the gym... I used to choose mondays for dead lifts, and do 10 sets of 10 reps at about 75% max rep. For me it was 195lbs 100 times broken up into 10 sets. then i would do a mix of abs and hyper-extensions for lower back. and every time, without fail, my EQ would only be about 80% the next day. The day after, back to normal. Same goes for legs, (i was nursing a severe high outside ankle sprain so i had to go light) where i would do 10x10 at 125 lbs. then I would move onto the leg press machine starting at 6x 45lb plates and work my way up to 14x45lb plates doing 7 reps each. Sure enough, the next day would give me the same results as the day following dead lifts. HOWEVER, immediately after doing dead lifts and squats, i could swear to you that my dick was bigger.
SO along with the fact that I do landscaping and construction 7 days a week, go to the gym 5, eat healthy. I am boosting my testosterone and working my heart like a paleolithic man. One thing to know is that muscle mass gained does not translate to dick size gained. It is more like testosterone produced instead of muscle mass gained. SO basically I was getting my fair share of natural vitamin D and melatonin and exersize. My historical knowledge then led me to see the common link between bigger dicks / sunlight intake/ and exersice. So where does melatonin come into play? I read something about children having higher levels of melatonin release during sleep and that it decreases as we grow older. I immediately linked this with every other hormone in the body and went on a hunch that it was one of the main regulators for growth during puberty. true or not it works. and what i mean about athletes in southern states, is that most high school football teams could shit on any d2 college school in the northeast. I can tell you that I feel extremely energized after a good night sleep using melatonin, like waking up ready to conquer the world. plus a better sleep means more recovery time. It may be something like psuedo-science but im not saying take melatonin and sit on your ass will make your dick grow ya know? and I certainly am not going to stop taking it.