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doublelongdaddy;628319 said:
Please ask questions in the public forum as I do not receive private messages. Thanks.

I read somewhere when you wrote about surgery that releases suspensory ligament. Is now (4weeks post op) maybe chance I make some extra gains because of it?
 
Mmuddd;628347 said:
I read somewhere when you wrote about surgery that releases suspensory ligament. Is now (4weeks post op) maybe chance I make some extra gains because of it?

With the ligaments cut you have the potential to make length gains much faster than before so gaining size will now be all about your training. The increase in size due to the surgery will not be huge it is the potential to make gains that is huge. Once you have healed completely you can tackle a good workout that will take advantage of the surgery you have had but it is most important to heal first.
 
How I can know I healed? Still Im retracted to 11 cm in EL. Erection angle is lower (because i think im swollen still). maybe I started extending to early? What is danger if I did?

Thank you very much. You are only I can speak on this subject, because I kee this private.
 
Mmuddd;628498 said:
How I can know I healed? Still Im retracted to 11 cm in EL. Erection angle is lower (because i think im swollen still). maybe I started extending to early? What is danger if I did?

Thank you very much. You are only I can speak on this subject, because I kee this private.

Healing would be considered a place where all scars have been completely closed and where there is not longer any pain. Try some light stretches and se how it feels, if things feel good increase the intensity and from there add in more and more of your total workout. If you do try to stretch and feel any pain be sure to check scars to be sure they have not reopened, if they remain closed and secure you should be good to go on.
 
I think 18+ is a good age to start why dont you check the DLDs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] if you are new
 
shortdick;628698 said:
I think 18+ is a good age to start why dont you check the DLDs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] if you are new

I mean too early after PE surgery... 😄👍
 
Mmuddd;628704 said:
I mean too early after PE surgery... 😄👍

well any pain or tear feeling or any discomfort after PE is bad for you cuz you have had surgery. But reasonable stretch in ligaments is acceptable.
Surgery does take a substantiable amount of time for recovery so i would suggest take ample time for recovery so you dont have any issues in the future.
 
pogzee;628708 said:
well any pain or tear feeling or any discomfort after PE is bad for you cuz you have had surgery. But reasonable stretch in ligaments is acceptable.
Surgery does take a substantiable amount of time for recovery so i would suggest take ample time for recovery so you dont have any issues in the future.

Thanks.

Freaking out big time because retraction. Before operation i was 5", now im 4,5"... 😁
 
well retraction of penis is when it is in healing state . Normally also when most guys are done with their PE session, their penis retracts back inside or it is commonly called turtling. It is natural process that your body does to protect the penis and i am sure its a sign for you to still wait it out for a month or two atleast and then get back to PE to avoid any injury.
 
pogzee;628771 said:
well retraction of penis is when it is in healing state . Normally also when most guys are done with their PE session, their penis retracts back inside or it is commonly called turtling. It is natural process that your body does to protect the penis and i am sure its a sign for you to still wait it out for a month or two atleast and then get back to PE to avoid any injury.

Surgeon gave me [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] Extenderer and in instructions which I recieved in paper, it says to start with it three weeks after surgery. I am worrying because I started it, but sometimes I feel pain inside above penis.
 
well you are not supposed to feel any pain at all according to me. Yes a stretch is good but it is different from pain. I would still suggest give it time to heal and then begin any PE .
Be sure to consult your doctor regarding this as i have not had any surgery and maybe the pain you feel is supposed to be there but only a doctor can tell regarding this or DLD. There might be a reason it says start in 3 weeks specifically as they might consider that time period enough for healing but i dont think it is necessary to do so and healing period may vary from person to person .
 
I dont feel it while stretching, but afterwards sometimes. I worry not to stretch and scar to retract penis to even smaller size.
 
always remember to consult doctor for any pain because it can be many kinds of pains.
If you feel stretch in ligaments then it is very good .Try this---when you stretch your penis towards the right, put your hand at left side at base of penis and you will feel a string like thing being pulled . try changing intensity while touching so u know where is the string thing called ligaments. It can be ligaments which is good and if it is the surgery area and skin then its bad. Retraction is normal so try [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace bandage[/words] wrap right after your length workout to prevent it from happening and healing your penis in an elongated state to make gains faster. It is basically taking [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace bandage[/words] and wrapping it from right behind the glans till the base of your penis. Re-wrap every 15 minutes in beginning and then move to 30 minutes. here is the link
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You will feel some discomfort and pain when you first start again because even though the area may be healed, the scarring can shrink and need to be stretched again to become even. This will cause discomfort until it has stretched as far as it needs. Take you time and increase intensity over a few weeks so it does not cause severe discomfort, just a little day by day.
 
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but DLD do you think it makes sense letting a surgery area heal so there is no problem in future ???? or rather begin PE during healing process so gains will be faster ????
i feel after the surgery penis will be prone to more issues after surgery .
 
doublelongdaddy;628874 said:
You will feel some discomfort and pain when you first start again because even though the area may be healed, the scarring can shrink and need to be stretched again to become even. This will cause discomfort until it has stretched as far as it needs. Take you time and increase intensity over a few weeks so it does not cause severe discomfort, just a little day by day.

I think im not healed. I called the clinic and they told me there is no danger in starting [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], and that Im still recoevering (regarding retraction). They told me in this phase flaccid should be seen, and erected lenght is still normal to be smaller. Also, its normal to be 8+ weeks to be EL smaller and depends on person/recovery when its gonna grow.
 
I personally feel that i would have taken a longer break for healing as i know how even a simple lump on penis that i could have cured with a break for a week...but i didnt and i carried on PE and now i have to take a month break for it to heal. But your case is different also and im sure you get the point im trying to convey. Now its your choice if you wanna carry on with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Well if you do then begin with very low intensity as DLD says and then gradually increase.
 
pogzee;629001 said:
I personally feel that i would have taken a longer break for healing as i know how even a simple lump on penis that i could have cured with a break for a week...but i didnt and i carried on PE and now i have to take a month break for it to heal. But your case is different also and im sure you get the point im trying to convey. Now its your choice if you wanna carry on with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Well if you do then begin with very low intensity as DLD says and then gradually increase.

Does extenderer add to girth? After sessions my penis is bigger in all aspects. Maybe gets swollen?

Also, does extenderer add to EL?
 
Mmuddd;629265 said:
Does extenderer add to girth? After sessions my penis is bigger in all aspects. Maybe gets swollen?

Also, does extenderer add to EL?

[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is for length only. It will help you gain flaccid size and erect size also.
the swelling you feel is the soreness from stretching exercises that you do.....like you have normally in your body after a body workout.
jelqing is for girth.
 
pogzee;629332 said:
extender is for length only. It will help you gain flaccid size and erect size also.
the swelling you feel is the soreness from stretching exercises that you do.....like you have normally in your body after a body workout.
jelqing is for girth.

I dont do stretching excercieses (except extenderer). But in manual of [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] Extenderer it says that add to girth also?
 
Mmuddd;629351 said:
I dont do stretching excercieses (except extenderer). But in manual of [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] Extenderer it says that add to girth also?

well you should do stretching exercises in order to loosen the ligaments and make them more flexible. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] doesnt give you the intensity that your hands can give. But presently you dont need that much intensity to be clear.
also now use common sense in this. the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is stretching your penis in vertical position and cell division is also happening vertically. how will there be growth horizontally then ????
for girth we jelq because when we are pushing that blood ahead , the pressure of the blood pushes against the walls horizontally.
But still if your gaining girth without any PE then its just bonus for u....lol
 
pogzee;629353 said:
well you should do stretching exercises in order to loosen the ligaments and make them more flexible. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] doesnt give you the intensity that your hands can give. But presently you dont need that much intensity to be clear.
also now use common sense in this. the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is stretching your penis in vertical position and cell division is also happening vertically. how will there be growth horizontally then ????
for girth we jelq because when we are pushing that blood ahead , the pressure of the blood pushes against the walls horizontally.
But still if your gaining girth without any PE then its just bonus for u....lol

I had surgery 😉
 
pogzee;629361 said:
keepin that in mind you will only use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] then.

Doctor gave me instruction to use it downwards. Does this mean that I can lay down and sit while using it?
 
Mmuddd;629519 said:
Doctor gave me instruction to use it downwards. Does this mean that I can lay down and sit while using it?

i think you can use it that way also because the point of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to keep it downwards is for the pressure in the down direction.
but you should confirm this one from DLD or your doctor cuz i dont wanna give u a incorrect advice.
but there shoudnt be a problem because lieing down or sitting doesnt change the angle of the force.
 
Mmuddd;629358 said:
I had surgery 😉

I realise this is a week behind in answering, but was the surgery for ligament cutting/elongation? The straight down while standing will give you the best stretch for ligaments, same when laying down. Sitting and having it point straight out will give you a 50/50 of ligament stretch as well as tunica. As for the girth question, you may achieve a minimal base girth increase over time, maybe some mid shaft but i do say minimal, don't believe the hype that the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] sites proclaim. The tool is great for length gains and once you have fully recovered from your surgery it would be beneficial to add in some basic manual stretching and girth work to target other aspects of growth if you so wish to 😀
 
Hey everyone.. I am new to forum and the idea, to be honest i always though it was a scam all this cock enlargement sites. but it looks like you guys are making some success! so does anyone have tips for a newbie?
 
joeywalker69;631834 said:
Hey everyone.. I am new to forum and the idea, to be honest i always though it was a scam all this cock enlargement sites. but it looks like you guys are making some success! so does anyone have tips for a newbie?

Hi Joey, welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], yeah there are a lot of scams from companies looking to cash in on 'miracle' pills etc but you have come to a great place to start your journey. Check out the newbie section in this forum and DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] as well as give [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] a quick read over to get an idea of the basic ideas behind enlargement. Also be sure to take measurements so you know what you are starting with length and girthwise, that will help you see if you are gaining with the efforts you are putting in. If you have any questions that you feel can't be answered from looking through these forums, feel free to ask, there will always be someone around to offer advice or point you in the right direction 😀
 
joeywalker69;631834 said:
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hello Joey welcome to the Brotherhood. I can understand having doubts about what we do but if you take the time to read all the progress threads you can see easily that this is very real. The best place to start this with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine.please ask any questions you may have or any concerns that may arise. We are here to help you grow and be the best you can.after a couple weeks you will see the potential of what you're doing and that should give you plenty of inspiration to go on. I wish you the best of luck my brother.
 
doublelongdaddy;631846 said:
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Thanks so much! where can i find the newbie forum.. I know that penis enlargement is a marathon not a race. but what kind of time frame would you recommend to notice growth?
 
Whats going on y'all my name is Hank and shit...and I'm a newbie. Im 23 years old and I ran across PE about 5 years ago. I decided it's time for me to stop pussyfooting around and believe in myself and believe in the system. I remember coming across DLD's video years ago and I across matter of size December2015 funny how fate work right. While I'm here i want to keep a log of not only penis growth ( which i know 100% it's going to happen) but also a log of a full body transformation to inspire those that are just like me. I have this attitude of "can't lose will NOT lose" some call it cocky I call it Law of Attraction. I know what i want and I believe it will happen.

I want to learn from all you members and earn my place in the brotherhood with an exceptional amount of greatness. I want to be able to teach those that are willing to learn. GAINS WILL BE MADE physically,mentally and spiritually. and DLD I want a seat at the table and be the guy that is literally on your heels. In order to be the best you must gain respect from the best. I hope that you see this and personally hold be accountable my brother.

Hope to hear from y'all soon.

LETS BE GREAT IN 2015!
 
Hey every one glad to be here, reason I joined is, the girlfriend of 4 years, after some discussions in bed one night bought me one of the cheap penis pumps, reason be is I am having issues maintaining a healthy erection during sex.
 
bandit2010;632239 said:
Hey every one glad to be here, reason I joined is, the girlfriend of 4 years, after some discussions in bed one night bought me one of the cheap penis pumps, reason be is I am having issues maintaining a healthy erection during sex.

WOW! It is SO good that your relationship is on such a level! Good luck bro! Read around and you will be ok! :)
 
yeah I know, she is 58 and I am 28. not really looking for size, just a better erection.
 
bandit2010;632245 said:
yeah I know, she is 58 and I am 28. not really looking for size, just a better erection.

Well it was very mature of her to suggest you to use a pump. If you want to have a better erection- you must first understand what is it that weakens your erection. There are multiple factors (poor blood flow to the penis, narrowing of arteries due to fat buildup on the walls of the blood vessels, hormonal disbalance, loss of libido, malnutrition, unhealthy lifestyle being SOME (not all!) of the potential reasons). The human body does not function "separately"- it acts as one. For example- when you lift some weight- you use lots of muscles, not just one (and even for the isolated movements- you still use multiple different "sub muscles" such as long bicep head, short bicep head, brachialis muscle, forearm muscles to perform an "isolated bicep curl"). Well, it is not just lifting weights, it is ALL just like that- if a link in the chain breaks- the whole process would stop functioning (to some degree or will just not function properly). "A chain is as strong as its weakest link".

There are MANY ways you can improve your EQ (Erection Quality) and all of them are pretty easy to find here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. You can use supplementation if you feel like it (combined with the KEGEL (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) exercises, jelqs and stretching). PE (Penis Enlargement) exercises not only increase the size of your penis- they improve your overall penile health (and testicle) as well! You may gain a bit, but if you are inconsistent- worry not, you will lose the gains (if you don't want them, that is rofl! :)). Search around the forum, if you have any questions- just ask, I (and MANY others will be around to help). I am tired and am going off to bed, I would give you a better answer, but maybe tomorrow if you still have any questions left (like what are kegels, what is Jelqing etc. but you can find them yourself, just use the "Advanced Search" bar, click "All" and select "Titles Only". Good luck bro! :)
 
Thanks, I basically have a blood flow issue, been confirmed by a dr, i do try to eat healthy. I have also been doing KEGEL EXERCISES, problem I have is not getting a erection it is keeping it, that I am having the issue with, and as far as the gains yeah I know about that.

If i have gains in length or girth we are not really worried.
 
bandit2010;632248 said:
Thanks, I basically have a blood flow issue, been confirmed by a dr, i do try to eat healthy. I have also been doing KEGEL EXERCISES, problem I have is not getting a erection it is keeping it, that I am having the issue with, and as far as the gains yeah I know about that.

If i have gains in length or girth we are not really worried.

Blood flow can be increased through heat and deep tissue massage. Also, girth work in general will increase blood flow. Did the doctor tell you what condition this is? If I know more and can help you better.
 
it is a Psychological issue, due to stress. with issues here at home, I dont have a issue getting a erection, just a problem keeping one, we will get half way through and I will lose it, dr recommended a pump this was a year ago, we just been dealing with it, but there comes a time that something has to be done. That time is now, she was actually the one that placed the order for a inexpensive pump, I was shocked, we try to be very open about our sex life. well i gotta get off here and go to work, got a mower in the shop, with blown head gasket.
 
bandit2010;632329 said:
it is a Psychological issue, due to stress. with issues here at home, I dont have a issue getting a erection, just a problem keeping one, we will get half way through and I will lose it, dr recommended a pump this was a year ago, we just been dealing with it, but there comes a time that something has to be done. That time is now, she was actually the one that placed the order for a inexpensive pump, I was shocked, we try to be very open about our sex life. well i gotta get off here and go to work, got a mower in the shop, with blown head gasket.

Wel that is good news that it is a psychological disorder rather then a physical one. If you follow a good routine (especially a girth routine) you will see changes immediately in blood flow. Over time it will become better and better until you have achieved 100% erection quality. I would suggest that you not only start a routine but plan to do it for life, this will keep your eq in check and obviously bring more size in length and girth. I think a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] could be for helpful to your condition as blood flow is greatly increased after even the first session. I wish you the best of luck.
 
yeah i know about [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], and plan to get one, but money is kinda tight right now, as i am unemployed and working out of my small shop doing small engine work.
 
yeah i plan on getting a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] just as soon as i get caught up, work is slow, and money as been anything but tight.
 
aaronrants;632360 said:
Looking to get back into PE, never really posted on this forum.

Welcome to the Brotherhood of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]! I am so glad you found us and I hope we can help you in your new journey. Please feel free to ask any question or concern you may have, we are here for you!
 
bandit2010;632387 said:
yeah i plan on getting a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] just as soon as i get caught up, work is slow, and money as been anything but tight.

So start with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] for now and when you can afford the equipment it will always be there. You can also win equipment just by posting, each month someone wins by being the member with the most posts for that month.
 
doublelongdaddy;632330 said:
Wel that is good news that it is a psychological disorder rather then a physical one. If you follow a good routine (especially a girth routine) you will see changes immediately in blood flow. Over time it will become better and better until you have achieved 100% erection quality. I would suggest that you not only start a routine but plan to do it for life, this will keep your eq in check and obviously bring more size in length and girth. I think a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] could be for helpful to your condition as blood flow is greatly increased after even the first session. I wish you the best of luck.

Hello fellas Hank here again. This might be a stupid question but is there a beginners starter back that included all the tools and instruction videos I need to get started??
 
Sorry guys not use to forums so forgive me if you see this message more than once. I joined the sight a few days ago and this might be a silly question but is there a beginners starter pack that can be purchased that has all the tools material and detailed step by step instructions. videos would be nice




LETS BE GREAT IN 2015!
 
Hank_09;632442 said:
Sorry guys not use to forums so forgive me if you see this message more than once. I joined the sight a few days ago and this might be a silly question but is there a beginners starter pack that can be purchased that has all the tools material and detailed step by step instructions. videos would be nice

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words],The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] routine whit the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine you can use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BATHMATE[/words] and they can help you out a lot.



LETS BE GREAT IN 2015!
 
Hank_09;632442 said:
Sorry guys not use to forums so forgive me if you see this message more than once. I joined the sight a few days ago and this might be a silly question but is there a beginners starter pack that can be purchased that has all the tools material and detailed step by step instructions. videos would be nice

Yes, there is. It is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] package (you can purchase whatever you want, but if I was you- I'd go for the full package). Penis Enlargement :: Join MoS Penis Enlargement Now is the link, all the info you need is on the page I just posted. Basically, you have video exercise explanation and program to follow, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] Pills, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] and a Lifetime Membership in the package.
 
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