KINGSNAKE (Back with a vengance and brand new gains with pics and comparisons)

regtam25;517328 said:
Kingsnake or anyone is it possible to inject hgh into the penis like you would do the pge-1?

It's possible to inject any liquid into the penis. I'm not sure you would want to inject HGH into your penis. However, I think taking HGH (not in penis) or other supplements that increase GH in the body while doing a chemical Penis Enlargement routine is a great idea. I don't see why it wouldn't help in the reparation of tissue and accelerate growth when trying to increase "raw tissue mass". IGF 1 is something that can be injected into the penis. I was told by a doctor it is relatively safe to do this, provided you actually know what you're doing. He also told me that injecting IGF 1 into the body as well would help with chemical Penis Enlargement for the reason I stated earlier in this post.

Personally, I would be taking IV supplements that increase GH production in the body if it weren't for 1 reason - I am hanging for lig stretch. Increase GH, in theory, could very will make ligaments tougher and repair quicker. This is the opposite of what I want for ligament deformation. However, once I am finished with my ligament work, and am ready to get back on my PGE1/chem Penis Enlargement protocol, I will be taking anything that will help increase the effectiveness of my efforts, as well as get my body jacked. Although, I am fairly happy with myself now, just could go for a huge cock between my legs. The extra muscle mass and reduced fat on my body would also be a nice touch, but it is useless without a 9" hog rubbing against my inner thigh.
 
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kingsnake;517304 said:
Hey Kinsey. With me I can’t do any grinding pelvis to pelvis where I’m rubbing there clit because I’m to long. The only way I can fuck most women and be able to grind on her is if I’m going in semi erect where my penis is still able to bend and fold in her pussy. Once my dick gets rigid then you can forget about it. Between 2 to 3 inches are left out in the cold preventing any grinding or pelvis contact. Now there are a few rare exceptions from a few chicks that could take my fist and almost my whole forearm up there pussy.

Honestly Kinsey. I don’t see why you just don’t go out there and start smashing some chicks bro. You say you re in the 9 inch realm so just going smash a few brauds and you’ll find out for your self what moves you can do and what these chicks can take. With a dick in the 9 inch realm you should stop sitting on the sidelines. Get in the game and go out there and start scoring some points on the board bro.

Did you seriously fist a chick?lol
And I cant holler at no chicks man I'm on lock. And yes I do have the package its insane, fucking huge!!!!!!!, lol, over critical. But, that does not mean a guy could score if he's the biggest or one of the biggest dicks in the whole school. And I happen to be a very attractive guy. But I dont go up and holler at any chicks. They know I have a big dick they can see some crazy sh!7 bulging in my pants. But even when I remain Idle and I dont holler I got so much niggas and hoes on my dick cock blocking either hating, or competing that I dont really get around to it. I be having females coming up to me. They be saying I'm fine, cute, or sexy or whatever but I dont run out to the baseball field or ask for the number. So I dont get to any base. I do not want to look like a crazy fan even if its just that she has a boyfriend. I got so much attention on me that I dont even want to do it anymore. And I'm afraid that a female might feel the same way, I dont know. And where am I going to take her. I dont have any money, apart from a scholarship or financial aid which I need and even run out of sometimes. The main point of going out with a female is actually going out with the female. So I figure I would just wait until I'm a baller like you lol and then holler at them. That way if a female shoots me down it would be her loss and if a nigger is hating he'll just be hating. I'll have all the necessary tools to get a women. If I dont get a women then somethings wrong. The world might be going to end. So at my position right now I will just have to be patient. And I almost forgot. How much do the females like it fully inserted rubbing the clit with the semi flaccid? Or at least, how much does it look like they like it? From a scale of 1 - 10. Ask them if you have the chance.
 
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Kinsey, you must be autistic.

By the way, kingsnake doesn't give women money or take them places. He takes from them, because they are pathetic enough to trade anything, including their self respect, for a good time. You were lucky enough to win the genetics lottery. You don't have to give to women. You can be a taker, too.

Women are naturally takers. They take from guys like me. They act under the guise of liking a guy like me for his personality and depth, but what they really want is to have their way paid for and/or have a physically perfect specimen filling their empty hole with over sized cock. Do you understand what I am trying to say?

Why don't you just have sex with a woman if it's so easy for you? They don't want you to take them out. They don't want you to be romantic. They look at you and think dirty sex. Why would you not use that to your benefit? I don't try to get women either, but there is a difference between me and you. I would have to try much harder than you would to have sex with a girl. All you have to do is invite her back to your dorm room. I would have to put in work, which is not worth my time or diminishing my self respect. You don't have to diminish your self respect. You hold the leverage.

Women don't want to be taken out and treated romantically, they don't want complicated guys with depth, they just pretend to want that so the world doesn't look at them with disgust. All they want is big cocks in their holes, from taboo guys who will piss off their fathers and make their friends jealous. They want a physical specimen to entertain them as they lie back and secrete fluids, not to be taken out to dinner and have to listen to some bullshit about how a guy gets so much fulfillment from his work with mentally challenged kids.

Don't you understand? Someone needs to sit you down and explain it to you, because you don't have a clue.

What are you waiting for? Don't you realize, the older you get, the less choices you have? The less chances? You're insane or autistic. That is what I conclude when I read your posts. You're not stupid, but there is definitely a malfunction there.

I've told you this before many times, and now your idol kingsnake has told you this: go out and fuck while you can. It doesn't get any easier with age. Money is irrelevant when you're black and hung. Why am I having to explain this to you?? You're my competition and when I think in terms of women, I hate guys like you. I want to destroy you. But the fact that you're not getting it is just ridiculous.

Go out and use these women, take them for all you can. They would do the same to you if you were me.
 
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neognostic;517388 said:
If you don't feel secure with your equipment at 9x6.5-7 then it's not your dick that's the problem.

I don't think it's about that, for me personally I do Pe to see the limits of my genetic expression, knowing oneday I will attain a 12 inch rock hard penis from pe is comforting granted I stick with it. Plus another aspect of doing pe atleast for myself is being an alpha male if women weren't such size queens and whores, And subliminally attracted to the biggest guy they have had, making up reasons ohh he's more than a dick there is depth to him or he's sweet at times others treating her like shit cause he know he can. I would discontinue my peing. To put it in blunt terms If men didn't have penises and women were attracted to other parts of the body that were big men would be looking to enlarge it. I can assure you when i was sexually active there is no feeling close to seeing a woman lose her breath and stop breathing cause you hit her cervix with some inches in the cold as kingsnake puts it. Knowing you can do something but don't is a powerful edge on alot of guys
 
Kinsey;517370 said:
Did you seriously fist a chick?lol
And I cant holler at no chicks man I'm on lock. And yes I do have the package its insane, fucking huge!!!!!!!, lol, over critical. But, that does not mean a guy could score if he's the biggest or one of the biggest dicks in the whole school. And I happen to be a very attractive guy. But I dont go up and holler at any chicks. They know I have a big dick they can see some crazy sh!7 bulging in my pants. But even when I remain Idle and I dont holler I got so much niggas and hoes on my dick cock blocking either hating, or competing that I dont really get around to it. I be having females coming up to me. They be saying I'm fine, cute, or sexy or whatever but I dont run out to the baseball field or ask for the number. So I dont get to any base. I do not want to look like a crazy fan even if its just that she has a boyfriend. I got so much attention on me that I dont even want to do it anymore. And I'm afraid that a female might feel the same way, I dont know. And where am I going to take her. I dont have any money, apart from a scholarship or financial aid which I need and even run out of sometimes. The main point of going out with a female is actually going out with the female. So I figure I would just wait until I'm a baller like you lol and then holler at them. That way if a female shoots me down it would be her loss and if a nigger is hating he'll just be hating. I'll have all the necessary tools to get a women. If I dont get a women then somethings wrong. The world might be going to end. So at my position right now I will just have to be patient. And I almost forgot. How much do the females like it fully inserted rubbing the clit with the semi flaccid? Or at least, how much does it look like they like it? From a scale of 1 - 10. Ask them if you have the chance.


Bro can you upload photos if you are actually that size? I would appreciate it as would many others. And by the way, please refrain from saying the word "nigger"?

It's like women calling each other whores and bitches, it just makes it more okay for everyone else to do it.
 
ironaddict69;517410 said:
Bro can you upload photos if you are actually that size? I would appreciate it as would many others. And by the way, please refrain from saying the word "nigger"?

It's like women calling each other whores and bitches, it just makes it more okay for everyone else to do it.

As a blackman kinsey reserves that right to use that word whenever at his discrete. Truth is women are whores and it's ok to call things how they're seen.
 
Hey onemanorgy, I have a newsflash for you: Alpha males aren't overly concerned with how they appear to women enough to be mentally stunted into believing they need a 12" cock. Sorry.
 
ironaddict69;517410 said:
Bro can you upload photos if you are actually that size? I would appreciate it as would many others. And by the way, please refrain from saying the word "nigger"?

It's like women calling each other whores and bitches, it just makes it more okay for everyone else to do it.


ironaddict, I have uploaded a photo you just have to search a couple of posts to find it I think its on pg 77 or something. I also have a video on that same post.

MikeShlort, you got me rollin. you're a trip.
 
Snake I read on one of your pages that when you were 5.6 inches in mid girth you would clamp and get so much expansion you'd become 6.2 afterwards how on earth were you getting so much expansion!? (thats a 0.6 increase!!) when I clamp I pretty much stay the same size I'm just a lot harder but I don't have any kind of post clamp size increae what do you think i'm doing wrong?

again do you think it's to do with my tunica not being supple enough to allow the expansion?
 
onemanorgy;517413 said:
As a blackman kinsey reserves that right to use that word whenever at his discrete. Truth is women are whores and it's ok to call things how they're seen.

Wrong. That makes it okay for white people to do it too, which it is not, especially for how much anger and hatred the word can cause when used by someone you aren't comfortable with using it. I won't get into this further because the race card thing is bullshit, thanks gr8leviathan.

Kinsey, saw the vid. You are one long guy!
 
SugarSoSweet;517483 said:
Snake I read on one of your pages that when you were 5.6 inches in mid girth you would clamp and get so much expansion you'd become 6.2 afterwards how on earth were you getting so much expansion!? (thats a 0.6 increase!!) when I clamp I pretty much stay the same size I'm just a lot harder but I don't have any kind of post clamp size increae what do you think i'm doing wrong?

again do you think it's to do with my tunica not being supple enough to allow the expansion?

When I was pumping, my natural size was 5.75 EG and I got to 7.25" EG once after a session, and around 7" EG many a time after sessions. I tied off after and just did a basic pumping procedure. It's all explained in detail on page 1 of my progress thread.
 
Just gut my theyfit custom made condoms in the mail. I ordered the biggest ones they had in length and girth G31 which was after measuring just about 9.75" long and 6"+ around. These condoms are not easy to get in the us. I had to use a mail forwarding service to get them. They offer 95 different size combinations.
 
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Seun;515949 said:
what happened to your dick oneman lol

edema swell from pumping, personally I think it's good to do but not over do it like prelude99 on the pumper forum 10x13.5 is crazy, His penis looks like a silicone shot gone wrong. Very faint edema swell will carry nutrient and water into the skin to heal faster
 
TheGr8Leviathan;517485 said:
I think expansion has to do with how your dick is made up and how much blood you trap in. I can easily get 0.75" expansion after a few Uli#3 sets.

I don't understand why I'm not expanding at all after a session of clamping my natural erections aren't the hardest..... actually they kinda suck maybe thats why
 
SugarSoSweet;517572 said:
I don't understand why I'm not expanding at all after a session of clamping my natural erections aren't the hardest..... actually they kinda suck maybe thats why

Sugar, I believe your body maybe low on NO, meaning not producing enough NO. Thus the lack of expansion. Try and supplement your diet with some Citrulline Malate 2:1. Start with low dosage and adjust from there. Also you need to reverse kegel and kegel your ass off during clamping for maximum expansion. Hope that helps.
 
SugarSoSweet, if you are not getting enough expansion, your erection quality is not soo great. Try using Ginkgo Biloba and zinc as supplements when on a girth routine. I get so much blood traped per minute set that some just drops out the tip at times. Maybe me being extremely vascular all over my body helps.
 
MikeShlort;517436 said:
Hey onemanorgy, I have a newsflash for you: Alpha males aren't overly concerned with how they appear to women enough to be mentally stunted into believing they need a 12" cock. Sorry.

Hey ShlortStuff, newsflash for you 8/ every being on this earth Alpha or zeta go's through moments of doubt and want, the alpha in the pack of wolves or the zeta . Since everything in this universe boils down to and is a transmutation of sexual energy, conception, birth, decay and rebirth rinse and repeat. One day the alpha will die. But any smart alpha will retain or 'grow' his control or power till that time comes. Dick = Power over what any straight man wants .....drumroll please BANANANANANAN...... Vagina. Wars have been waged over it nations have been conquered with it, kings brought to their knees by it. Perhaps the dumb alphas don't want a 12 inch penis or penis above average they don't last very long in life well and aren't alphas, nowadays atleast when big penis matters. Speaking of that whats this website called again ? Hmmm has to think about that. neway one thing though i'm very glad you used this slogan even though insinuating sarcasm
MikeShlort;517436 said:
overly concerned
Every alpha wonders and is concerned how long his light will shine, how long his reign will last. I'e telling kinsey to "have sex while he can cause getting older you lose your chances" Every "GOOD" alpha or pre alpha will strategize how to get ontop, if there already will have strategy in place on how to stay.

My spidey senses tell me from your above statement your judging insinuating and condemning me for thinking a certain way, the right way mind you, in my post I most of the time mention personally or something regarding to my personal if you go back and reread my post always has something to do with that and me stating that, I don't make my opinions known as a collective consensus by this whole forum like you, but I'm gonna be you for a hot second and assume i'm right which again I am. Here is what iv'e picked up on you so far, you are under 25, your naive and you've been robbed on a couple weed deals . Your only theorem that is correct is that women are whores but you hold this theory cause you've always felt inadequate and looked over in life by the opposite sex, this whore theory is true and can get you far in life when you can take advantage of that. Good for you bud :cool:

And you
TheGr8Leviathan;517437 said:
LOL, that was hella funny. And Im black to o but still agree with Ironaddict69, it makes it sound ok for others to use it, lets not play the race card here please.
Simple Answer = Then Don't bring the race card up

You
ironaddict69;517501 said:
Wrong. That makes it okay for white people to do it too, which it is not, especially for how much anger and hatred the word can cause when used by someone you aren't comfortable with using it. I won't get into this further because the race card thing is bullshit, thanks gr8leviathan.
No your wrong Paul Mooney, Your talking about naive white kids from the suburbs that act dress and feel a certain way that don't know any better. Why because they think there is a difference in spelling the word when it's one root word just pronounced different. You just now classed all white people as dumb. I have black friends had a black roomate have a black ex. I know my place in not saying the word. What should bother me is a piece of shit like this
MikeShlort;517373 said:
Kinsey, you must be autistic.
Saying something like that even in sarcasm. I have an autistic brother I'm not angry cause this kid isn't any better than my brother. Quit being butthurt this forum won't degrade using that word or lose it's position in SEO. Kinsey will most likely stop using the word now cause he doesn't want to be the blacksheep here understandable but what it came down to was expressing himself. Just like shlortstuff was expressing his self and his grief toward the opposite sex and expressing his jealousy toward kinsey on not being him in so many words having that good genetic card. And no matter what a person always has that right on here aslong as it won't directly hurt someone and I mean hurt your gonna die or your head explode hurt. This is the last great Penis Enlargement forum.

Onemanorgy has spoken
 
This used to be my favorite thread. I used to spend more time over at thunders until I read that Kingsnake had posted pics over here, so I came over here. The more time I spent here the more I realized that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is the best pe site that their is. But this thread has gone to shit. I'm going to unsubscribe and just read Kingsnakes chemical Penis Enlargement log instead.
 
Onemanorgy - You're just going at me because my replies to your posts had people laughing at you. You're clearly mentally challenged. You post nonsense in one big run on sentence. You are clearly uneducated. You think you're all knowing though by the way you post. You really shouldn't say anything about anyone. You're the guy who posted a big long, hardly legible post about how your ex girl cheated on you and now you hate all women. You're not as profound as you think you are. You have what, an 8 inch dick and still feel inadequate? Good luck running the pack there alpha. The "zetas" will pick you apart by your many inferior complexes.
 
Ok fellas. That's enough of this. This thread needs to get back on track. In other news. I've decided to go ahead and buy a vacuum hanger. I just talked to the owner of the hanger system called thegrip. He pretty much told me the same thing that my urologiest said in terms of how the vacuum hanger allows full even pressure and tension on just the shaft and connective tissues and with no skin pull or compression forces being needed.

I asked him about the blister problems that most people complain about and he's insure me to use the pressure gauge with the hanger to make sure Im not going over 6 gs and to wrap my glans with sports tape to prevent blisters.

I was thinking about either buying thegrip or a vaccum hanger from another company. If anyone has any suggestions about where to get a good vacuum hanger that's friendly in price let me know. Looking for guys who has experiance with vacuum hanging to help me with blister prevention.
 
kingsnake;517636 said:
Ok fellas. That's enough of this. This thread needs to get back on track.
Finally, the owner of the thread is tired of disrespect to his thread. Please refrain from excessive irrelevant posting to this thread or it will be moved or deleted in the future.
 
Hey Kingsnake What supplements would you recommend for length?


kingsnake;517636 said:
Ok fellas. That's enough of this. This thread needs to get back on track. In other news. I've decided to go ahead and buy a vacuum hanger. I just talked to the owner of the hanger system called thegrip. He pretty much told me the same thing that my urologiest said in terms of how the vacuum hanger allows full even pressure and tension on just the shaft and connective tissues and with no skin pull or compression forces being needed.

I asked him about the blister problems that most people complain about and he's insure me to use the pressure gauge with the hanger to make sure Im not going over 6 gs and to wrap my glans with sports tape to prevent blisters.

I was thinking about either buying thegrip or a vaccum hanger from another company. If anyone has any suggestions about where to get a good vacuum hanger that's friendly in price let me know. Looking for guys who has experiance with vacuum hanging to help me with blister prevention.
 
kingsnake;517636 said:
Ok fellas. That's enough of this. This thread needs to get back on track. In other news. I've decided to go ahead and buy a vacuum hanger. I just talked to the owner of the hanger system called thegrip. He pretty much told me the same thing that my urologiest said in terms of how the vacuum hanger allows full even pressure and tension on just the shaft and connective tissues and with no skin pull or compression forces being needed.

I asked him about the blister problems that most people complain about and he's insure me to use the pressure gauge with the hanger to make sure Im not going over 6 gs and to wrap my glans with sports tape to prevent blisters.

I was thinking about either buying thegrip or a vaccum hanger from another company. If anyone has any suggestions about where to get a good vacuum hanger that's friendly in price let me know. Looking for guys who has experiance with vacuum hanging to help me with blister prevention.


Thank you Jesus. I have been long waiting for you to jump back on the set and wreck things up and set bars for people to be motivated by. And I want to know what to do in the future just in case I plateau cause Penis Enlargement is addictive. Nobody wants to take deconditioning breaks so we dont wind up losing what we worked so hard and so long to get.
 
Kinsey;517559 said:
Just gut my theyfit custom made condoms in the mail. I ordered the biggest ones they had in length and girth G31 which was after measuring just about 9.75" long and 6"+ around. These condoms are not easy to get in the us. I had to use a mail forwarding service to get them. They offer 95 different size combinations.


Wow! I will have to check those out. I Only need 8 inches in length but the girth in magXL's aren't pleasant. I will look into this.

Vacuum hanging, did it for years. Monkeybars latest system seems great. The grip I believe has a limit of 12 lbs, done 20+ with monkeybars hard sleeves.
 
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Kingsnake I really think your onto somethings. I would love to add the pge1 and dmso to my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] routine. I think maybe I would do something like this Dmso treatment, 20 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session, pge1 injection, after erection subsides 20 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session then just clamp on the off day. I have found that for me clamping every other day got faster results then clamping dailey. As you already know I want girth more then lenght. I read what you said about woman adjusting to girth and I think you are right but I also feel that girth is key to driving woman crazy becuase of the added sitmulation to the clit. Since I got my addtional girth I found that I can go deep and just hold or move very little and woman respond. They all are a little concerned about the girth but they all explode like they have not in the past. Yes that do suffer from sore coochie after two or three sessions but a few days later they want more. Some sore coochie and all still want to bust one more nut regardless lol.
 
Hey Threak-X. I hear you bro. I haven’t been able to post as much as I want to since my Internet service is out of commission at home right now. Didn’t think my thread would go hay wire without my presence but I'm glad things have calmed down.

Hey dragon552000. There aren’t any supplements that just specifically for length. All supplements that I take are for increased blood flow to the penis, increased neural pathway signaling to the penis, and increased elasticity and tunica break down to the penis. All of these supplements help with putting the penis in the proper bio chemical environment for growth in conjunction with Penis Enlargement exercises. There is no supplement that’s going to just bring about length and length only.

Hey Kinsey. Oh yeah you already know I ain’t going no where. LOL. I’m always here to share Penis Enlargement knowledge and shoot the shit with the brotherhood here. Once I get my internet back up and running, I’ll be on here a lot more.

Hey insaneone2. There’s nothing wrong with the snake hanger. It’s just for me, since I’ve been doing chemical Penis Enlargement, the PGE1 erections leave my shaft sore so the compression style of the snake hanger or any hanger that has to compress your penis for a grip hurts like hell.

To combat this while on my chemical program, I need a hanger that doesn’t use compressive forces for a grip. The vacuum hanger provides this and is recommended by urologist and penis surgeons. So basically while I’m doing this chemical program a vacuum hanger would serve me better. When off this program I’d stick with a compression style hanger like my snake hanger or python hanger.

Hey ironaddict. With your experience with vac hanging, how did it go for you? Did you ever have to deal with blisters from to much vacuum or weight? If so what did you do to fix it? Also did you have to deal with the sleeves breaking and replacing them a lot?

Hey hopeing48x8. I use an eye dropper because DMSO immediately goes through the skin into the tissues and blood stream on what ever part of your body you put it on. If you have dirty hands and you apply the solution that way, the DMSO will absorb through your hands and take any bacteria and germs of a lesser molecular weight with it since it’s a carrier.

You could just make sure you have clean hands but I personally don’t like to get it on my hands and find it easier and cleaner to use an eye dropper. Ronielle uses an eye dropper as well which I agree with.

Hey hopeing48x8. Yes the addition of dmso and pge1 is very promising in the future of Penis Enlargement. I personally have already made a huge girth gain since starting my chemical program with no new length gains so far. I think once enough tissue mass is created length gains will start to show. Especially when the septum starts to suBathmateit and lengthen. I agree with doing pump sessions and clamping sessions toward the end of a PGE1 erecton or post PGE1 erection as well because it makes perfect sense to take advantage of all the tunica cologen delinking that the PGE1 erections do.

After all of the delinking has been done and the erection starts to subside, that’s the perfect time to massively expand and swell that bad boy up with clamping, pumping or high pressure jelqing. Even hanging after the pge1 erection completely goes down to flaccid is a good move as well to take advantage of the painful delinking properties of PGE1.
 
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kingsnake;517777 said:
Hey hopeing48x8. Yes the addition of dmso and pge1 is very promising in the future of Penis Enlargement. I personally have already made a huge girth gain since starting my chemical program with no new length gains so far. I think once enough tissue mass is created length gains will start to show. Especially when the septum starts to suBathmateit and lengthen. I agree with doing pump sessions and clamping sessions toward the end of a PGE1 erecton or post PGE1 erection as well because it makes perfect sense to take advantage of all the tunica cologen delinking that the PGE1 erections do.

After all of the delinking has been done and the erection starts to subside, that’s the perfect time to massively expand and swell that bad boy up with clamping, pumping or high pressure jelqing. Even hanging after the pge1 erection completely goes down to flaccid is a good move as well to take advantage of the painful delinking properties of PGE1.

I have to agree with Kingsnake. Anything that expands the tunica before length exercises is good for gains.
However, if you ask BIB he will tell you not to do that. But I dont agree with hanging before girth exercises. I think you should stretch outward first by clamping or pumping before length exercises to get maximum length expansion and if you do length exercises first and clamp or pump last you'll decrease the length expansion you just created at least a little bit. However I think edging is a good attack before or after length exercises.
 
Kinsey;517870 said:
I have to agree with Kingsnake. Anything that expands the tunica before length exercises is good for gains.
However, if you ask BIB he will tell you not to do that. But I dont agree with hanging before girth exercises. I think you should stretch outward first by clamping or pumping before length exercises to get maximum length expansion and if you do length exercises first and clamp or pump last you'll decrease the length expansion you just created at least a little bit. However I think edging is a good attack before or after length exercises.

He'll tell you not to do that for two reasons:

1. AttacHydromaxent point soreness - You will get attachment point soreness when doing girth work like that, then hanging afterwards. That's why kingsnake wants to look into vac hanger. I considered using a vac hanger and keeping on the PGE1 doses, but king already paid his dues with 4+ years of manuals and hanging and gained 1.5" from it. I still have my 1.5" of length to gain with hanging and manuals before I fuck with the chemical methods of expanding the actual size of the penis, rather than stretching it, two very different concepts.

2. Working girth can lead to a toughened tunica, which could make it very difficult to gain when hanging at higher angles. It just makes sense. The body reacts and adapts to the constant strain on the body part (ie clamping or pumping the penis), makes the area stronger to withstand the forces, therefore you need much more force to deform it by stretching. Also, the thicker a material is, the harder it is to stretch it.

I have a good understanding of the theories behind this shit, but I haven't gained shit so nobody has any reason to listen to me. What I will say is, all these people who see pictures of kingsnakes huge cock, and see his chemical procedures outlined and jump into it thinking they are going to get huge the easy way should realize that he put in 4+ years of hanging and manuals and in that time he gained 1.5" of length and .75" (I think) of girth. So his gains are from old fashioned hard work. Using chemical Penis Enlargement is the icing on the cake which I think should be done after you've exhausted your maximum potential from non chemical methods.

Kinsey, you have gained a large amount too, 1.6" in length is huge. Have you tried any hanging? How did you gain that length anyways? If you've done it all, I'd say your next option is probably the PGE1 doses, to get you that extra .5"x.5" you're looking for. Although, you'll probably gain more girth that length but it's still a good option for you, in my opinion.
 
MikeShlort;517873 said:
He'll tell you not to do that for two reasons:

1. AttacHydromaxent point soreness - You will get attachment point soreness when doing girth work like that, then hanging afterwards. That's why kingsnake wants to look into vac hanger. I considered using a vac hanger and keeping on the PGE1 doses, but king already paid his dues with 4+ years of manuals and hanging and gained 1.5" from it. I still have my 1.5" of length to gain with hanging and manuals before I fuck with the chemical methods of expanding the actual size of the penis, rather than stretching it, two very different concepts.

2. Working girth can lead to a toughened tunica, which could make it very difficult to gain when hanging at higher angles. It just makes sense. The body reacts and adapts to the constant strain on the body part (ie clamping or pumping the penis), makes the area stronger to withstand the forces, therefore you need much more force to deform it by stretching. Also, the thicker a material is, the harder it is to stretch it.

I have a good understanding of the theories behind this shit, but I haven't gained shit so nobody has any reason to listen to me. What I will say is, all these people who see pictures of kingsnakes huge cock, and see his chemical procedures outlined and jump into it thinking they are going to get huge the easy way should realize that he put in 4+ years of hanging and manuals and in that time he gained 1.5" of length and .75" (I think) of girth. So his gains are from old fashioned hard work. Using chemical Penis Enlargement is the icing on the cake which I think should be done after you've exhausted your maximum potential from non chemical methods.

Kinsey, you have gained a large amount too, 1.6" in length is huge. Have you tried any hanging? How did you gain that length anyways? If you've done it all, I'd say your next option is probably the PGE1 doses, to get you that extra .5"x.5" you're looking for. Although, you'll probably gain more girth that length but it's still a good option for you, in my opinion.

Agreed. Chemical Penis Enlargement should be a last resort. Let's not forget there are quite a few people who did it frequently, and had zero results. This alone (PGE-1) is used by guys all over for impotence, and they arent reporting increased size. Something to take into consideration. It COULD however aid in a manual routine.
 
ironaddict69;517896 said:
Agreed. Chemical Penis Enlargement should be a last resort. Let's not forget there are quite a few people who did it frequently, and had zero results. This alone (PGE-1) is used by guys all over for impotence, and they arent reporting increased size. Something to take into consideration. It COULD however aid in a manual routine.

That's what I meant to say. I believe PGE1 + jelqing and pumping would be the way to go. That's how I plan to use it. Doing the manual exercises once the PGE1 erection subsides.
 
MikeShlort;517945 said:
That's what I meant to say. I believe PGE1 + jelqing and pumping would be the way to go. That's how I plan to use it. Doing the manual exercises once the PGE1 erection subsides.

why not the other way around`? work the tissue and then fill it...
 
dickerschwanz;517960 said:
why not the other way around`? work the tissue and then fill it...

Supposedly your penis is more pliable and able to expand when the erection subsides. It's basically 3-4 hours of being hard, so your tissues have been stressed, perfect time to work them.

Also, it wouldn't be a pleasant experience trying to inject into your dick after a pumping session, with the fluid retention and the expansion.

I would do stretching prior to the PGE1 does but probably not girth work. Maybe jelqs just for what you say, to work this tissue then fill it.

I would however probably do a nice pumping a jelqing session early in the day, then inject in the evening, then do another jelqing session with pumping after the erection subsides
 
MikeShlort;517873 said:
Kinsey, you have gained a large amount too, 1.6" in length is huge. Have you tried any hanging? How did you gain that length anyways? If you've done it all, I'd say your next option is probably the PGE1 doses, to get you that extra .5"x.5" you're looking for. Although, you'll probably gain more girth that length but it's still a good option for you, in my opinion.

I gained the first 9/16 of an inch through rigorous jelking for several hrs a day(at least 2 hrs + a day) took about 8 months to a year. Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured. The only reason I took the break in the first place is because school got in the way. So I was exactly 8". I started jelking again and did not gain any length in 4 - 5 months. That's when I sought out drastic measures. I've heard of monks hanging before but was too afraid to try it. I thought it was dangerous. However I bought a bib hanger and a year later I am now 9" without pumping. However, I just bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a week ago for warmup and blood flow length exercises/DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches before hanging and cant even pump past 8.75" because I have phimosis and the pressure of my penis head stretching my foreskin is excruciatingly painful even at 8.75". I am confident that if it wasn't for the phimosis I would go past 9". I also found out that the penis has to have at least a mediocre erection to get good expansion from a pump and after you remove the pump you're just as hard or semi hard when you take it off as when you put it on. Unless you are getting stimulated or watching adult entertainment which I haven't tried yet. I'm still learning how to use the pump and still have trouble with my balls being sucked in. I plan on using the pump to gain that extra 1/2" after gaining all my length first.
 
Kinsey;517985 said:
Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured.

Yes it is normal to observe a gain after a period of no stress to the target tissue. Significant Ligaments and/or Tunica fatigue induced by different exercise causes swelling of the tissue. This swelling causes retraction and the tissue becomes somewhat "tough" when stretch. When a deconditioning break is taken the swelling goes down and the tissues returns to "normal" becomes softer in a way and thus a gain maybe observe.
 
MikeShlort;517969 said:
Supposedly your penis is more pliable and able to expand when the erection subsides. It's basically 3-4 hours of being hard, so your tissues have been stressed, perfect time to work them.

Also, it wouldn't be a pleasant experience trying to inject into your dick after a pumping session, with the fluid retention and the expansion.

I would do stretching prior to the PGE1 does but probably not girth work. Maybe jelqs just for what you say, to work this tissue then fill it.

I would however probably do a nice pumping a jelqing session early in the day, then inject in the evening, then do another jelqing session with pumping after the erection subsides

I dont think it wold be that painful to inject after water pumping in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. the pg1cold work on tisse that was already expanded. Then after the PG1 wore off warm water pumping wold help to keep the tissue exspand while the healing process started
 
ironaddict69;517896 said:
Agreed. Chemical Penis Enlargement should be a last resort. Let's not forget there are quite a few people who did it frequently, and had zero results. This alone (PGE-1) is used by guys all over for impotence, and they arent reporting increased size. Something to take into consideration. It COULD however aid in a manual routine.

Your correct but I never really read much about anyone doing chemical pe like Kingsnake. Most things that i read people just injected and wanted it to work without any added exercises. As for the thought about people useing it for ED without growing. Once again that is injecting withot any addtional exercises
 
hopeing48x8

I've done the injections for 3 months. I also have pumped daily for over 3 months, in the past. I conclude that it would probably hurt to stick a needle in your dick immediately after a pumping session. Although, it would probably be beneficial to be engorged for hours after a good girth workout causing expansion, I would be worried about injection point scarring. I would use that theory as a last resort if PGE1 injection then girth work is not yielding results.

If you're just looking for girth, I think it's fine to start the PGE1 exercises with the exercises after 3-4 months of some real girth work. However, people looking for length need to get the stretching out of the way before they start worrying about raw tissue expansion, for maximum possible gains.
 
Kinsey;517985 said:
I gained the first 9/16 of an inch through rigorous jelking for several hrs a day(at least 2 hrs + a day) took about 8 months to a year. Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured. The only reason I took the break in the first place is because school got in the way. So I was exactly 8". I started jelking again and did not gain any length in 4 - 5 months. That's when I sought out drastic measures. I've heard of monks hanging before but was too afraid to try it. I thought it was dangerous. However I bought a bib hanger and a year later I am now 9" without pumping. However, I just bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a week ago for warmup and blood flow length exercises/DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches before hanging and cant even pump past 8.75" because I have phimosis and the pressure of my penis head stretching my foreskin is excruciatingly painful even at 8.75". I am confident that if it wasn't for the phimosis I would go past 9". I also found out that the penis has to have at least a mediocre erection to get good expansion from a pump and after you remove the pump you're just as hard or semi hard when you take it off as when you put it on. Unless you are getting stimulated or watching adult entertainment which I haven't tried yet. I'm still learning how to use the pump and still have trouble with my balls being sucked in. I plan on using the pump to gain that extra 1/2" after gaining all my length first.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will suck the balls in from time to time lol. I use a band to put around my balls when i first started to stop that but now have learned how to avoid that. I love the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. i do not know why but it seems that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pump lasts all day.
 
Anybody has any experience using comeclose or towels to limit depth.
I was wondering if women still feel the pounding on their clitoris after wearing these because when I put a towel on the base of my penis or pelvic and hit it with my hands I still feel it very strongly so much that it hurts.

http://www.comeclose.co.uk/product.html

Anybody knows Wesley Pipe's true length because every time he's on video with Mandingo he's looks just as long.
 
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