KINGSNAKE (Back with a vengance and brand new gains with pics and comparisons)

smerc;613753 said:
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Where @? The server has been acting up here recently not showing images or videos.

Not for me anyway. I have been able to upload and view photos. Here is an example
 
smerc;613451 said:
I wish chemPE was more talked about on here. I'm following the thread @ promuscle and it seems to have died down. Even @ it's peak there were probably only around 7 or so people doing PGE1 injections that were actually posting. They did get enough people to do a group buy one day, but nobody really ever posts anymore.

I'm planning on starting a routine in the future w/ PGE1, DMSO/PABA, DMSO 15% verapamil and maybe topical DMSO 10-15% pentox. Going along w/ hanging/girth routines that target the tunica.
If I can find it, it would be nice to add another vasodilator like papaverine.

Then there is other stuff, but I don't know how legit it is online (like VEGF). PGE1 is claimed to raise IGF/VEGF anyways.

There is one guy @ thunders doing PRP injections and a few months ago, talked about a DIY injection w/ his own centrifuge+ETC.
I have a .pdf on the 8 growth factors of it and a lot of other research, but it seems like it's still up in the air on results.

Likewise, absolutely! I post wherever the conversation's at, but I'd love to see the topic come up more on here. As it's been proven in the past, there's lots of bright people on here and many thought-provoking pieces of ChemPE info has come from here over time.

That sounds like a good topical routine for sure. Never seen anyone mess with those particular collagen-related compounds, but they're mentioned in the patent and backed up pretty well in other areas of use, so I'm really curious to see what their actual effect is on PE. Seems like it could really speed up the process with a solid extending/hanging routine. Even more with an injectable/erection-based ChemPE routine.

I think a reason why a lot of people haven't tried it is the effort that goes into making a proper transdermal. I myself don't know how one would go about making such a thing, as these compounds are most easily acquired in pill form. Is it do-able to simple grind them down and mix with DMSO or is it a more complicated process? I've not looked into sourcing straight-up powdered stuff, though, but I'd assume that makes the whole thing very easy.

Also, as for other vasodialators - I've wondered if every element of Trimix, as well as things like Cialis are necessary for growth with CPE. I only bring it up because of how rare it is to see someone grow from just PGE1. I know OMG did it, so maybe it comes down to him getting legitimate product when others didn't, but I can't help but be curious as to the part(s) Papaverine and Phentolamine play in the whole thing.

Really curious about VEGF too. Seem like it should help out a great deal, but it seems way too expensive for the normal person to experiment with. I'd be interested in seeing people possibly experiment with topical PGF2A, too, as that's mentioned in the patent a few times as well. Specifically in regards to speeding up results from a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] device, which is an interesting piece of commentary.

I don't think that person over at TP ever updated about his DIY centrifuge injections, but I feel the same as you do about the current uncertainty of results.
 
smerc;613922 said:
Hmmm. Might just be a really old photo that died off that he was referring to.

This could be the case, I think when we switched over to the new video system many of the photos posted prior to that may have gotten lost.
 
Atmospheric;615893 said:
Is it do-able to simple grind them down and mix with DMSO or is it a more complicated process?

Pill crushers. Not sure if micronfilters are needed for anything. Not familiar w/ the particles in the pill form.



Atmospheric;615893 said:
I've wondered if every element of Trimix, as well as things like Cialis are necessary for growth with CPE. I only bring it up because of how rare it is to see someone grow from just PGE1. I know OMG did it, so maybe it comes down to him getting legitimate product when others didn't, but I can't help but be curious as to the part(s) Papaverine and Phentolamine play in the whole thing.

Well. PGE1 might go into the erection ability and what's left over might go into the tunica portion, or visa-versa. I have no idea. I just know about PGE1 dependency and the other vasodilators helping to negate the dosage of PGE1 needed and save money. I still haven't read into much on the others as there is only 1 other vasodilator that I can find online for purchase. Most of them you're going to have to get an LLC and some other business shit I'm sure and hope they don't need some type of other verification that a normal person can't obtain.


Atmospheric;615893 said:
Really curious about VEGF too. Seem like it should help out a great deal, but it seems way too expensive for the normal person to experiment with. I'd be interested in seeing people possibly experiment with topical PGF2A, too, as that's mentioned in the patent a few times as well. Specifically in regards to speeding up results from a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] device, which is an interesting piece of commentary.

I only seen 1 person mention this recently and that's on thunders. Maybe one of these days chemPE might take a nudge towards mainstream, but I doubt it. Peptide vendors might take a hit later on down the road and need more intense verification for most of this shit.

Atmospheric;615893 said:
I don't think that person over at TP ever updated about his DIY centrifuge injections, but I feel the same as you do about the current uncertainty of results.

Still waiting on that update. Not sure if that guy went through w/ it or not. Said something about his wife helping him, can't recall. I wonder what mcg counts are in the listed growth factors from a PRP injection from your own blood.
 
smerc;616047 said:
I only seen 1 person mention this recently and that's on thunders. Maybe one of these days chemPE might take a nudge towards mainstream, but I doubt it. Peptide vendors might take a hit later on down the road and need more intense verification for most of this shit.

problem is, most guys dont wanna inject themselves. its a bit like steroids, alot of guys dont wanna inject so either take orals or just dont take any. its even more scary when it comes to your man meat though, i think most feel its way too dangerous and/ or potentially painful and not really worth the risk for what you may or may not get, which is probably why it hasnt really gone anywhere and only very few guys do it
 
That's one of the biggest set backs. If there was more science on it then you would see a lot more people willing to take the dive. Then sourcing comes into question.
 
i think even then just the action of injecting into your dick is scary for most. if it was a pill you could take or a cream that does the same thing, i think it would be much more popular, but then wouldnt really work the same otherwise it would be done. also if anyone catches you injecting your dick or find a needle around youve got some serious explaining to do!

ive personally thought about chemical p.e., but at the end of the day just seems a little too risky for me
 
The problem is things becoming systemic when taken orally. Creams w/ a carrier is still possible w/ something that doesn't need to enter the CC's. Maybe something like an IGF formulation.
 
smerc;616168 said:
The problem is things becoming systemic when taken orally. Creams w/ a carrier is still possible w/ something that doesn't need to enter the CC's. Maybe something like an IGF formulation.

yeah, just like how orals for bodybuilding purposes dont really affect penis growth. i would of thought though if something needs to be injected, it would be difficult to get the same affect or dosage through a cream.
 
Atmospheric;615893 said:
I don't think that person over at TP ever updated about his DIY centrifuge injections, but I feel the same as you do about the current uncertainty of results.

Are you thinking about attempting this? I have a .wordpad I can send some shit over through PM w/ you if you wanted. Just random thoughts/quotes/claims/ETC crap. It's just gathering dust ATM and if someone could use it I would prefer to give it to them. I might end up making a thread about it, but it's mainly just general bullshit w/ no real structure. Maybe a speculative thread.
 
smerc;616047 said:
Pill crushers. Not sure if micronfilters are needed for anything. Not familiar w/ the particles in the pill form.

Ah, I see. That was my line of thinking as well. It's relatively easy to source verapamil, pentox., etc in pill form, but I myself was unsure if simply crushing them down and making a topical with DMSO was efficient. I'd assume a filter would be necessary though, to remove whatever binding agent may be in the pills.

Still waiting on that update. Not sure if that guy went through w/ it or not. Said something about his wife helping him, can't recall. I wonder what mcg counts are in the listed growth factors from a PRP injection from your own blood.

I remember that guy, yeah. He hasn't posted in ages. I don't think he went through with it, but he did mention a lot of compounds he wanted to try, which I was mostly curious about. Some interesting thoughts and ideas in that TP thread, but it's been quiet for a bit now.

smerc;616254 said:
Are you thinking about attempting this? I have a .wordpad I can send some shit over through PM w/ you if you wanted. Just random thoughts/quotes/claims/ETC crap. It's just gathering dust ATM and if someone could use it I would prefer to give it to them. I might end up making a thread about it, but it's mainly just general bullshit w/ no real structure. Maybe a speculative thread.

PRP is pretty low on my list of things I'd like to attempt, honestly. Very much appreciated though! Might be worth uploading the document somewhere for anyone else who may be interested. The PRP method seems like it may be great for healing processes, but I don't think it's been fine-tuned enough for gains, although I think it might have potential. Regardless, it would be cool to see more Chem threads on here for sure.
 
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doublelongdaddy;611990 said:
I feel what you are saying my Brother but it is not true at all. There are all different kinds of women all over the world that have very different preferences from what society deems as being attractive. You are not ugly, you are a child of God and in your own way you are beautiful. I know how hard it is to get over feeling insecure and growing older, I am in the same boat but I do know that there is someone out there that I will find attractive that will find me the same. I will pray for you and your overcoming these terrible feelings and I hope God brings to you just what you need.

Thank you for your encouraging words :)
 
I myself wouldnt have a problem with injecting something into my dick. Im wanting to hopefully get into ChemPE soon as Ive been thinking about it for a very long time, and been doing PE for a while and would welcome something new to try. Finding a good legit Peptide website in Canada is what I need to do next.
 
necros;627022 said:
I myself wouldnt have a problem with injecting something into my dick. Im wanting to hopefully get into ChemPE soon as Ive been thinking about it for a very long time, and been doing PE for a while and would welcome something new to try. Finding a good legit Peptide website in Canada is what I need to do next.

Been doing the trimix injections for over a year, scared shitless at first, the tiny gauge needles can not even be felt, just need to dodge the veins.

BJ :cool:
 
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