KINGSNAKE (Back with a vengance and brand new gains with pics and comparisons)

kingsnake;602343 said:
I’m also researching the use of IGF injections into the penis even though I’ve used igf-des when I was heavily doing chem PE. The problem then was I think I was jipped and the igf I got wasn’t the real deal. Real igf is supposed to be expensive and hard to get your hands on. I was paying 30 bucks for it off of ergopep.com and didn’t realize that 30 bucks for real igf is complete bullshit.

I have a friend that’s a doctor and he’s heavily involved in PE claiming to be at a solid 7 inches in girth and is actually injecting real legit igf into his penis but only under the skin so the igf gets on the tunica which is different from when I used to inject it directly through the tunica into the spongy tissues underneath. His theory is that injections only need to be under the skin and the igf will be carried into the blood stream of the penis and run through out the entire organ with a cock ring on to prevent any igf from leaving the groin area. He’s been doing it for a month now and is claiming small gains in girth in conjunction with his pumping routine.

I’m waiting to see what his final verdict on this method brings him and if it’s a success I’ll be trying it myself.

Hey kingsnake, very interesting to hear about your Dr's approach to ChemPE. Shooting the IGF in that manner was what Magnumforce allegedly did way back in the day. He also used HGH and PGF2A in the same way. I believe Adams also told Stagestop to use it this way as well, but he didn't utilize the method long enough to know if it added to his results.

I haven't heard of any other DIYers trying it this way, so I'm fascinated to see what the verdict is. I'm a big believer in IGF1LR3's ChemPE potential, but I too think that nearly all of it out there is likely bunk. It should work very well and work all the time but you rarely see anyone report such results.

Very curious about how it ends up going for him, regardless!
 
Atmospheric

You are totally right the IGF I use to get was bunk. Ergo was quite alright in the beganing and then quality was going downward. However I will be frank, it did add to my thickness. I went from 6" to 6.9 girth and that was just 4 viles of IGF and PGE. I did not use the long version L3 but the DES as it has less half live span (20 min) the LR and wanted to be more focusing on the smooth muscle and not go all over my body.

Length there was no change and that using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] exntender and manual stretching while under PGE and IGF.

after 4 vial of IGF and countless hours of chemically induced erection here are the cons:
1- IGF sold over the internet if not totally bunk it's half bunk and not potent at all.
2- the Pain you get from PGE erection for 3 hour is killing man. I am telling you I had days where I am hugging my dick and crying from the pain. but if you know how to doze it right, you can have a crazy erection and also have sex while on it. its amazing.
3- after so many vial of PGE, I found out that my erection was getting a weaker when I am not on PGE. not sure if it was side effect of my dick receptor got used to easy work under PGE that they just became lazy. 4 month after stopping my erection is back amazing.

Following Kings thread back in the days on prof muscle he had more expereice and more result then me. However like you said, unless we found a great source I aint going to plunge on it again.

Atmospheric;606223 said:
Hey kingsnake, very interesting to hear about your Dr's approach to ChemPE. Shooting the IGF in that manner was what Magnumforce allegedly did way back in the day. He also used HGH and PGF2A in the same way. I believe Adams also told Stagestop to use it this way as well, but he didn't utilize the method long enough to know if it added to his results.

I haven't heard of any other DIYers trying it this way, so I'm fascinated to see what the verdict is. I'm a big believer in IGF1LR3's ChemPE potential, but I too think that nearly all of it out there is likely bunk. It should work very well and work all the time but you rarely see anyone report such results.

Very curious about how it ends up going for him, regardless!
 
Hey KingSnake I got to ask, how did you avoid turkey neck when you hang?

I gained from hanging but I gained some turkey neck as well
 
JK69;606435 said:
Anyone got a good online source for PABA & DMSO?

PABA from purebulk.com
Dmso I bought mine in my country no the USA but when you buy make sure it's in a glass bottle not plastic because the plastic can leech into the dmso
In his thread there is a link were he bought somewhere
 
Italianoinsg;606432 said:
Same here. Anyone got answer?

All I can think of is DLD's testicle massage,supra used ball weights once when hanging to help stop it,and I've seen these rings for sale at pumptoys.com that are meant to help stop the turkey neck but I never bought
 
ShadedSam;602448 said:
Welcome back snake! Your wife sounds awesome. If I found someone like that I'd marry her, but no girl seems to understand. I'd be totally cool with a girl fucking other guys just as long as she leaves time for me :)

That bump on your dick looks exactly like mine did, and I never did injections. I got it from doing clamped slow squash jelqs. Its mostly gone though from cutting back on girth work.

Have you used magnesium chloride and nascent iodine before and did you notice any changes? I used DMSO/PABA for awhile and it helped but a few months ago I started doing just DMSO and it seems to work a lot better by itself.
Did you use DMSO with aloe or just by itself?
 
kingsnake;604324 said:
Hey onemanorgy and DLD. Thanks for props yall.

Hey onemanorgy. When you did your igf lr3 injection and chemical protocol did you make any permanent gains bro? If so please explain in detail your routine.

It gave me girth a little and pumped girth I never seen anythign like it int eh [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] recently doing it., I injected 3 times i beleive in both right and left cc didnt clamp down should of.


Let me show you why my igf-1 lr3 for 69 dollars was real.

Gyazo - 4de00ccbe731996abaa773573f2f9eaa.png I want you to pay attention to kai greens stomach and phil heaths stomach. Look for very small bumps in there sixpack in both of them.

Those small tiny bumps under the skin are either lodge lymphnodes or cysts from fucking with IGF1. I have 1 . I injected MikeLshlort method straight into cc at 10 or 2 oclock with LR3.

These are potent drugs my friend and on some peptide websites is legit shit. Purchase Peptides stuff is legit.
 
onemanorgy;607595 said:
It gave me girth a little and pumped girth I never seen anythign like it int eh [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] recently doing it., I injected 3 times i beleive in both right and left cc didnt clamp down should of.


Let me show you why my igf-1 lr3 for 69 dollars was real.

Gyazo - 4de00ccbe731996abaa773573f2f9eaa.png I want you to pay attention to kai greens stomach and phil heaths stomach. Look for very small bumps in there sixpack in both of them.

Those small tiny bumps under the skin are either lodge lymphnodes or cysts from fucking with IGF1. I have 1 . I injected MikeLshlort method straight into cc at 10 or 2 oclock with LR3.

These are potent drugs my friend and on some peptide websites is legit shit. Purchase Peptides stuff is legit.

Will it cause bumps on the penis also?
 
onemanorgy;607595 said:
It gave me girth a little and pumped girth I never seen anythign like it int eh [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] recently doing it., I injected 3 times i beleive in both right and left cc didnt clamp down should of.


Let me show you why my igf-1 lr3 for 69 dollars was real.

Gyazo - 4de00ccbe731996abaa773573f2f9eaa.png I want you to pay attention to kai greens stomach and phil heaths stomach. Look for very small bumps in there sixpack in both of them.

Those small tiny bumps under the skin are either lodge lymphnodes or cysts from fucking with IGF1. I have 1 . I injected MikeLshlort method straight into cc at 10 or 2 oclock with LR3.

These are potent drugs my friend and on some peptide websites is legit shit. Purchase Peptides stuff is legit.

doublelongdaddy;607849 said:
Will it cause bumps on the penis also?
Yeah, will it turn a cock into a French Tickler?
 
Morphosis;607961 said:
Yeah, will it turn a cock into a French Tickler?

YUCK! I will stick to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]:)
 
Hey velvetfog. With my wife yeah I meet her parents numerous times. They were just down here in ATL 2 months ago to see there grandson. For your question on hormones I am against it. I did try DHT gel for 1 month applying it to my penis during my chemical PE protocol a long time ago but it did nothing for gains accept lower my natural testosterone levels which took a while to come back on its own. Now my natural testosterone level is back up to 800 like before.

I am against using hormones for PE purposes but I am still open to the use of peptides like IGF, Tb-500, MGF, and VEGF. All 4 of these peptides cause cell proliferation and angiogenesis in the smooth muscles of the penis.

For your question on if my wife can step out on our marriage the answer is hell no. LOL. I know it’s a big double standard but I ain’t going for that shit. LOL. She knows it and is cool with that.

Hey filmfreak. With DMSO/PABA, I apply all my topical treatments in the morning before I start my day and in the evening before I take my evening shower.
With my mixture I only apply a small amount of my compounds in small vials at a time. I have a big container of paba powder and a bunch of glass dmso bottles in storage. I saturate 1 vial of DMSO solution with PABA powder and use it. Normally 1 vial of the solution will last me 1 to 2 weeks in which I refill the vials and saturate with paba.

I do the same thing for my magnesium chloride, and MSM powder.

Hey Italianoinsg. Thanks for the welcome back bro. Yeah for me my chemical PE protocol didn’t grant me any permanent gains unfortunately. After I quit with injecting PGE1 the quarter inch gain in girth that I got out of it went away weeks after quitting. I lost additional size do to scar tissue development from jelqing to hard with to hard of an erection level. My size is now down to nbpel 9.3 x 6.2.

Hopefully with my new routine I can get back what I lost and hopefully surpass that to 10 inches.
I definitely agree with you on the cons of pge1 erections and the extreme pain they cause during the erection. Like you as my dosage of pge1 had to go up, my natural erections started declining and started to become dependent on PGE1. That was the final straw for me and was the reason why I quit PGE1. Like you I too got my igf-des from Ergo pep back then but in my opinion there IGF was fake because I didn’t gain anything permanent from it. It’s really hard to find real true legit IGF on the internet.

Hey Italianoinsg. That’s amazing that you gained almost a whole inch in girth with your chemical protocol. How many mcgs of igf were you injecting and what was your PE routine?

Hey Atmospheric. Yeah I too am waiting on my urologist final verdict on the igf he’s injecting into his penis. What he does is wear an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for 4 hours a day, 1 to 2 hours of pumping and his igf injections at night. The igf injections are performed 3 times a week. I’m giving him 3 months to give me a verdict and if it’s a good verdict then I’m jumping on the bandwagon as well.

With magnumforces chemical PE experiments I am definitely pissed off at that guy for deserting the brother hood after he supposedly reached 10 x 8 from his experiments. I remember him, Supra and a few others were researching chemical PE and after magnumforce reached his monstrous size and confirmed his experiment was a success, he tells everyone that he’s leaving the forum and that he will not go into detail on his methods. How fucking selfish is that shit. Pretty damn selfish if you ask me.

That guy gets a thumbs down in my book.

For the question on turkey neck from hanging, I always have had turkey neck even before I started PE. I don’t have any remedy to avoid it.

Hey onemanorgy. IGF definitely works as you can see in that pic you linked too. I may consider using purchase peptides when I start using IGF and Tb-500 for my penis again.

Hey DLD. I do remember Ronielle saying that when he used igf it did cause some uneven lumps along his shaft from the growth it created but he was able to smooth them out with jelqing.
 
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Magnumforce was a fraud if you ask me I don't believe him at all I've gone down the chem PE route before to and it has got some promise but I think manual natural PE is way better.
Snake when you pre mix your topicals don't they start to spoil a bit?
 
kingsnake;608484 said:
Hey DLD. I do remember Ronielle saying that when he used igf it did cause some uneven lumps along his shaft from the growth it created but he was able to smooth them out with jelqing.

Hmmmm, so what are these bumps? Fluid Retention?
 
Hey 8incyclops. Not sure if Magnumforce is a fraud or not. If he was truthful about his success, he is definitely a selfish SOB for ditching the brother hood without leaving detailed information on his findings.

With my topicals I only mixed a vial’s worth of DMSO with PABA which takes me a week to use up. The rest of my DMSO is kept in the glass bottles that I bought them in. The powdered PABA that’s not being used at the moment, I leave in an air tight container so it stays fresh. It’s only when you mix the PABA with DMSO that you have a certain amount of time to use it before the PABA spoils in the DMSO. That’s why I only mix 1 vial at a time.

Hey forwill. Thanks for the welcome back bro. Still killing those lemon pepper wings when ever I go out to DOCs with the fellas for pussy hunting night.

Hey DLD. I’m not sure if the lumps Ronielle got was fluid retention or not. I’m just going by what he told me. For me personally I didn’t get any permanent gains when I used igf but I strongly believe that the igf, I was injecting in my wang was fake stuff since I bought it off ergopep.com for only 30 bucks. Real igf is expensive and hard to find without a doctor.

Hey fellas. Got some pics of my pumping sessions. My routine has slightly changed a bit do to my son’s needs. My goal was to pump for 3 hours a day but with work, a child, and keeping my wife happy I can’t quite do 3 hours.

Right now my pumping workout is as follows.

(Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday) Training days
2 thirty minute pumping sets in the morning
2 thirty minute pumping sets in the evening

(Monday, Thursday, Friday) Active recovery days
20 to 30 minutes of light pumping

Sometimes If I have time, I’ll do my 2 hours of pumping all in the morning instead of splitting them up into 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the evening.

With my workout’s I’m using my vacutech cylinders attached to my CTC computer pump. I use my 12x2.25 tube for the first hour and before that hour is up, I’ve packed the tube girth wise. I warm up with 4gs of pressure and work my way up with in the first hour to 7gs but using dynamic techniques of pulsing the pressure up and down. So for the first hour I have my pump programmed for 1g for 5 seconds, 4gs for 5 seconds, 5 gs for 5 seconds, 6 gs for 5 seconds, and 7 gs for 5 seconds. After that cycle is over it goes back to 1g and starts the cycle over.

For the second hour I use my 2.5 tube for further expansion and to really hit the internals of the penis that runs down the scrotum area.

Toward the end of the second hour I’m using higher pressure to really hit the ligs and internals hard for length gains. My cycle in the 2.5 tube is as follows currently. 0.4gs for 5 seconds, 1 g for 3 seconds, 4gs for 5 seconds, 5gs for 5 seconds, 6gs for 10 seconds, 7gs for 10 seconds, 8gs for 5 seconds, 9gs for 5 seconds, 10gs for 5 seconds. After that the cycle starts back over to 0.4gs and so on to help keep fresh blood entering into the penis.

During my pumping sessions I pull out of the tube every 30 minutes and let my penis go flaccid to drain out all the blood. I then edge for 5 to 10 minutes to reestablish a nice strong erection and flood the penis with fresh oxygenated blood, then I go back into the tube rock hard and try to stay rock hard by milking the tube and watching adult entertainment.

After my pumping sessions, I wear a cock cushion or cock ring to stay semi engorged for 30 minutes to keep the tunica expanded a little while longer. After 30 minutes I take off the cock ring and edge to a full erection to reestablish fresh oxygenated blood and erection quality.

My unpumped erect girth is 6.25 inches at midshaft but now after a pumping workout my midshaft girth is reaching 6.9 inches even in a semi erect state. Almost 7 inches in circumference. I’m hoping that with time and consistency my unpumped girth will start climbing to the range of my pumped girth since my pumped girth is increasing.

In the pics you will notice that I have a strip of tape right under the glans of my penis. This is to keep fluid retention down since I don’t like the post pumped donut look from high pressure pumping. So far with the tape under my glans, I don’t get that bloated edema look right under the glans but get nice uniformed expansion along the shaft.

For some reason my pics aren't posting in the order that I'm trying to post them in. All of my pics are automatically open for view as well instead of having to click on them to see the pic. Not sure what's going on but oh well. The 3rd pic is of my dick right before my pumping session at npbel 9.3 x 6.2

The rest of the pics are of my pumping sessions, post pumped edging sessions, and semi engorgement shots with my cock cushion ring.
 
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thanks for sharing the pics. do you wrap the adhesive below the glans to prevent fluid build up? if i do get any fluid build up that is right where it happens for me. i imagine doing that is a great way to further prevent fluid build up during an intense pumping session
 
Thanks for the compliment DLD. I appreciate it man.

Hey youknowme123321. Yeah I wrapped the tape right under the glans specifically to prevent massive fluid build up in that area with high pressure pumping. This method really works too bro. When I wrap under the glans I only wrap with light pressure. Just enough pressure to constrict fluid from building up in that area but not enough to choke off blood flow to the glans.

For all just chiming in check out the bottom of the previous page for my new pumping pics.
 
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