KINGSNAKE (Back with a vengance and brand new gains with pics and comparisons)

ironaddict69;517896 said:
Agreed. Chemical Penis Enlargement should be a last resort. Let's not forget there are quite a few people who did it frequently, and had zero results. This alone (PGE-1) is used by guys all over for impotence, and they arent reporting increased size. Something to take into consideration. It COULD however aid in a manual routine.

That's what I meant to say. I believe PGE1 + jelqing and pumping would be the way to go. That's how I plan to use it. Doing the manual exercises once the PGE1 erection subsides.
 
MikeShlort;517945 said:
That's what I meant to say. I believe PGE1 + jelqing and pumping would be the way to go. That's how I plan to use it. Doing the manual exercises once the PGE1 erection subsides.

why not the other way around`? work the tissue and then fill it...
 
dickerschwanz;517960 said:
why not the other way around`? work the tissue and then fill it...

Supposedly your penis is more pliable and able to expand when the erection subsides. It's basically 3-4 hours of being hard, so your tissues have been stressed, perfect time to work them.

Also, it wouldn't be a pleasant experience trying to inject into your dick after a pumping session, with the fluid retention and the expansion.

I would do stretching prior to the PGE1 does but probably not girth work. Maybe jelqs just for what you say, to work this tissue then fill it.

I would however probably do a nice pumping a jelqing session early in the day, then inject in the evening, then do another jelqing session with pumping after the erection subsides
 
MikeShlort;517873 said:
Kinsey, you have gained a large amount too, 1.6" in length is huge. Have you tried any hanging? How did you gain that length anyways? If you've done it all, I'd say your next option is probably the PGE1 doses, to get you that extra .5"x.5" you're looking for. Although, you'll probably gain more girth that length but it's still a good option for you, in my opinion.

I gained the first 9/16 of an inch through rigorous jelking for several hrs a day(at least 2 hrs + a day) took about 8 months to a year. Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured. The only reason I took the break in the first place is because school got in the way. So I was exactly 8". I started jelking again and did not gain any length in 4 - 5 months. That's when I sought out drastic measures. I've heard of monks hanging before but was too afraid to try it. I thought it was dangerous. However I bought a bib hanger and a year later I am now 9" without pumping. However, I just bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a week ago for warmup and blood flow length exercises/DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches before hanging and cant even pump past 8.75" because I have phimosis and the pressure of my penis head stretching my foreskin is excruciatingly painful even at 8.75". I am confident that if it wasn't for the phimosis I would go past 9". I also found out that the penis has to have at least a mediocre erection to get good expansion from a pump and after you remove the pump you're just as hard or semi hard when you take it off as when you put it on. Unless you are getting stimulated or watching adult entertainment which I haven't tried yet. I'm still learning how to use the pump and still have trouble with my balls being sucked in. I plan on using the pump to gain that extra 1/2" after gaining all my length first.
 
Kinsey;517985 said:
Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured.

Yes it is normal to observe a gain after a period of no stress to the target tissue. Significant Ligaments and/or Tunica fatigue induced by different exercise causes swelling of the tissue. This swelling causes retraction and the tissue becomes somewhat "tough" when stretch. When a deconditioning break is taken the swelling goes down and the tissues returns to "normal" becomes softer in a way and thus a gain maybe observe.
 
MikeShlort;517969 said:
Supposedly your penis is more pliable and able to expand when the erection subsides. It's basically 3-4 hours of being hard, so your tissues have been stressed, perfect time to work them.

Also, it wouldn't be a pleasant experience trying to inject into your dick after a pumping session, with the fluid retention and the expansion.

I would do stretching prior to the PGE1 does but probably not girth work. Maybe jelqs just for what you say, to work this tissue then fill it.

I would however probably do a nice pumping a jelqing session early in the day, then inject in the evening, then do another jelqing session with pumping after the erection subsides

I dont think it wold be that painful to inject after water pumping in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. the pg1cold work on tisse that was already expanded. Then after the PG1 wore off warm water pumping wold help to keep the tissue exspand while the healing process started
 
ironaddict69;517896 said:
Agreed. Chemical Penis Enlargement should be a last resort. Let's not forget there are quite a few people who did it frequently, and had zero results. This alone (PGE-1) is used by guys all over for impotence, and they arent reporting increased size. Something to take into consideration. It COULD however aid in a manual routine.

Your correct but I never really read much about anyone doing chemical pe like Kingsnake. Most things that i read people just injected and wanted it to work without any added exercises. As for the thought about people useing it for ED without growing. Once again that is injecting withot any addtional exercises
 
hopeing48x8

I've done the injections for 3 months. I also have pumped daily for over 3 months, in the past. I conclude that it would probably hurt to stick a needle in your dick immediately after a pumping session. Although, it would probably be beneficial to be engorged for hours after a good girth workout causing expansion, I would be worried about injection point scarring. I would use that theory as a last resort if PGE1 injection then girth work is not yielding results.

If you're just looking for girth, I think it's fine to start the PGE1 exercises with the exercises after 3-4 months of some real girth work. However, people looking for length need to get the stretching out of the way before they start worrying about raw tissue expansion, for maximum possible gains.
 
Kinsey;517985 said:
I gained the first 9/16 of an inch through rigorous jelking for several hrs a day(at least 2 hrs + a day) took about 8 months to a year. Then I gained an extra .25" in 3-4 month with moderate jelking I found out I gained this .25" after a 3 month deconditioning break which is funny because I measured and did not gain any length before the break and did not exercise before I remeasured. The only reason I took the break in the first place is because school got in the way. So I was exactly 8". I started jelking again and did not gain any length in 4 - 5 months. That's when I sought out drastic measures. I've heard of monks hanging before but was too afraid to try it. I thought it was dangerous. However I bought a bib hanger and a year later I am now 9" without pumping. However, I just bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] a week ago for warmup and blood flow length exercises/DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches before hanging and cant even pump past 8.75" because I have phimosis and the pressure of my penis head stretching my foreskin is excruciatingly painful even at 8.75". I am confident that if it wasn't for the phimosis I would go past 9". I also found out that the penis has to have at least a mediocre erection to get good expansion from a pump and after you remove the pump you're just as hard or semi hard when you take it off as when you put it on. Unless you are getting stimulated or watching adult entertainment which I haven't tried yet. I'm still learning how to use the pump and still have trouble with my balls being sucked in. I plan on using the pump to gain that extra 1/2" after gaining all my length first.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will suck the balls in from time to time lol. I use a band to put around my balls when i first started to stop that but now have learned how to avoid that. I love the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. i do not know why but it seems that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pump lasts all day.
 
Anybody has any experience using comeclose or towels to limit depth.
I was wondering if women still feel the pounding on their clitoris after wearing these because when I put a towel on the base of my penis or pelvic and hit it with my hands I still feel it very strongly so much that it hurts.

http://www.comeclose.co.uk/product.html

Anybody knows Wesley Pipe's true length because every time he's on video with Mandingo he's looks just as long.
 
MikeShlort;518114 said:
hopeing48x8

I've done the injections for 3 months. I also have pumped daily for over 3 months, in the past. I conclude that it would probably hurt to stick a needle in your dick immediately after a pumping session. Although, it would probably be beneficial to be engorged for hours after a good girth workout causing expansion, I would be worried about injection point scarring. I would use that theory as a last resort if PGE1 injection then girth work is not yielding results.

If you're just looking for girth, I think it's fine to start the PGE1 exercises with the exercises after 3-4 months of some real girth work. However, people looking for length need to get the stretching out of the way before they start worrying about raw tissue expansion, for maximum possible gains.

Cool mike. Thanks for the insight. Never thought about the scaring part. When you pumped did you air or water pump?

As for the girth work i have been at it for a while. I clamped for years and two year ago i got a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and have been pumping and clamping on a regular routine. I also tried airpumping and did some hanging with a vac hanger but never liked it. I really like water pumping comparied to air pumping. Water pumping just leaves me feeling pumped up all day not like when i air pumped. Also less problems with fuild buildup and balloning

Cool
 
I wonder when snake is going to release that essay. Im hanging 25 pounds straight down with no gains. Its ridiculous I cant gain with hanging for shit.
 
mrskeets77;518263 said:
I wonder when snake is going to release that essay. Im hanging 25 pounds straight down with no gains. Its ridiculous I cant gain with hanging for shit.

How many hours are you hanging and how many days a week? To create decent gains most people have to hang at least 10 hrs a week minimum. Most people gain the most under 17lbs that is why it is strongly urged that one stays under 20lbs for as long as possible and only move up in weight when gains are not recorded. BTC is more intense than SD and swinging back and forth or side to side is also a good way to go through milestones. you might also want to contact BIB at the bib hanger forum in addition to writing kingsnake and the advanced Penis Enlargement-ers on this forum. Reading this will also help.

www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/16072-hanging-101-a.html
 
hopeing48x8;518246 said:
Cool mike. Thanks for the insight. Never thought about the scaring part. When you pumped did you air or water pump?

As for the girth work i have been at it for a while. I clamped for years and two year ago i got a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and have been pumping and clamping on a regular routine. I also tried airpumping and did some hanging with a vac hanger but never liked it. I really like water pumping comparied to air pumping. Water pumping just leaves me feeling pumped up all day not like when i air pumped. Also less problems with fuild buildup and balloning

Cool

Ya I made my gains with a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. Check out a thread called "encouragement" by Dan Clizer at this forum. He claimed to have gained 1.5" of girth in 10 months of dedicated pumping. He says that after awhile, he was up to 2-3 pump sessions a day. A method he used was the 6x6 routine (6 sets of 6 minutes), 1-3 times a day, depending on how conditioned he was at the time. I believe constant expansion is required to gain girth. The last month of pumping for me was gainless, even though I recorded up to 1.5" of temporary pump gains after sessions. I believe it was because I was only doing one session per day. I'm going to add DHT gel and a whole chemical Penis Enlargement procedure in with GH releasing supplements, revolving around PGE1 injections, pumping and girth work when I start to work girth. There is something called ultimate uli's on bib's forum as well
 
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