KINGSNAKE (Back with a vengance and brand new gains with pics and comparisons)

So did that girl basically want to fuck the minute she saw the picture of your dick?

Damn, now I really wish I had a huge schlong...
 
Well if she loves him then she won't care about his smaller pecker. Until they've been together for awhile and she starts wanting more, of course. I really like the fact she was honest with him. I'd want a woman to do the same for me. If she were to lie to me to spare my ego, that would be the ultimate disrespect. Not telling me the truth when i ask for it to protect me like a child would show me that she has zero respect for me and doesn't view me as a man and I'd be out of there. I give her props for being honest and not sparing his feelings like someone would do to a child.
 
kingsnake;511267 said:
Hey ironaddict. How's it going bro. I haven't heard from you since I was on Thundersplace as saiyan22. Hows gains going bro? Last time I remember, you were in the pursuit of more length gains since you have some thick ass girth already.

Yeah I hear you on the unpredictableness of PGE1. I got me some sudafed behind the counter just in case I can't get my pge1 erections down. So far the only scare I had was when I had a pge1 hardon for 7 hours straight a while ago but all was well. No damage down. If anything it made my flaccid girth thicker. It has already medically been proven that PGE-1 unlinks the colagen fibers in the tunica. I believe the painful achingness that most guys and I experiance with a pge1 erection is the pge1 unlinking tissues.

Hey ironaddict. The other injectable Im using with pge1 is called tb4 or tb500. This peptide accelarates healing, stops imflamation and also rearranges the colagen structure of the tunica and connective tissues for increased elasticity. On the ergopep website you can find tb4 in the peptide section. You'll have to reconstiute tb4 with sterile water so when you order some tb4 make sure to order 1 or 2 vials of sterile water with it. One thing with tb4 is once you reconstitute it in sterile water, you have 8 days before it goes bad so you will have to preload your syringes with it and store them in the freezer. I got about 30 syringes with 100mcgs of tb4 each, stored in my freezer.

When you're ready to inject, just take out a frozen syringe of tb4 and let it thaw out for 15 to 20 mins. Afterwards just back load the tb4 into the same syringe as you're pge1 dosage and you're coctail is ready for injection.

If the chemical protocal that Im doing doesn't yeild huge gains then, I'll be adding IGF-DES and DHT cream to my protocol.


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Dude I know it has been a while. I haven't been on here in forever, I imagine I should use your new name now when we talk on here?

I am still going for length. I am pretty stuck at 8.4, however last time we talked it was either 7.9 or 8, but that was eons ago. Not much progress on my end in terms of Penis Enlargement, other areas of life have fast forwarded enormously which is good. I am very interested in all this paba, DMSO, caverject stuff. I imagine I will buy the bulk paba, and mix it with the DMSO before I hang.

I will need to buy new dmso because mine is at 99%! Whoops! Down to 70 I go, I am glad I read your detailed posts in full.

This tb500 thing is very interesting. Are you sure that it is very safe though? Caverject we know is.

Back to caverject, I agree that dull ache that lasts for hours is definitely the collagen unlinking. I was much thicker when I was flaccid back when I used it. Maybe I will have to get back on that routine and see what happens. Couldn't hurt as long as I don't do it too often, as the needleprick entering the tunica actually can cause scarring over time.

Have you seen any gains thus far, and how long have you been going hard at the chem Penis Enlargement thing? You are getting so long it literally is the longest dick I have ever seen. I think if your girth got much past 7" you would need some sort of erection aid because that is just a ton of blood.

Thank you for the compliments about the girth. Base is still at 7.5, nothing has really changed there, the midshaft might be up a tad but lately my flaccid has been sort of "contracted" and my erections ahve not been 100% and I have no idea why! Do you have any clues about that? I bet the caverject would help! You have always had a very "loose" and full hanging flaccid. Mine is only like that in a jacuzzi, or when I am VERY relaxed from an alpha blocker or something similar, and then I love my limp size! I was wondering if you stretch after you lift (your muscles, not your dick) because I notice when my thighs get real swollen and tight, my flaccid almost gets robbed of the blood flow, something about the pudendal nerve.

I am just picking your brain for all this because you are so well versed, hopefully it isn't tedious, take it as a compliment,

I have also started to get my hemorrhoids taken care of as I hear these can negatively effect EQ. Bad side effect of lifting heavy shit.

Glad I got on here for the first time in fuck, well...a year or two to say what's up. I remember we used to shoot the shit over there all the time, you were the 10 incher with the bodybuilder physique, I was the guy with a shaving can girth who power lifted! Good shit man.
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Hey insaneone2 and Seun. Thanks for the advice with Quinton. If it’s N-Acteyl it will definitely pass the blood brain barrier and get into your system a lot better so you should be fine with the supplements.

With DMSO/PABA I do think it will help a lot. These topical chems will keep your tunica as soft an flexable as a baby’s bottom. It’ll will also help with faster healing between workouts and help against any potential fibrosis from the stress of Penis Enlargement.

Quinton is a tall motherfucker. He stands at 6 ft 2 in height and looks to weigh around 230LBS. Black guy with short hair. He’s got a decent build but nothing spectacular.

For your last question I usually get Viagra from a couple of friends I know in my area. I only use that for orgy gang bang situations. However, I strongly suggest you look into Goldreallas. I think that shit has cialas illegelly laced in there from my experiances with it. I pop one every 2 to 3 days to help aid in my chemical routine.

Hey Starks. Milly is 32 years old. I ended up not moving yet, even with my new job from Janiss. Im looking into moving next year though.

Hey Gravik. With your question on Milly wanting to fuck after seeing my dick pic, the answer is YES. That’s pretty much the jist of it. LOL. She saw a big dick. She wanted it. I gave it to her. LOL.

Hey Hepcat. I agree with MikeShlort. Honest women have an A in my book. The whole reason why I got into Penis Enlargement in the first place was because an honest woman told me that she was with a guy that she couldn’t even come close to gripping her thumb and middle finger around his shaft. That was back in 2008 when my size was npbel 8 x 5.2. If it wasn’t for her, I wouldn’t have searched the internet for legit penis enlargement sites and be at the size Im at now.

Hey MikeShlort. I get my powdered PABA from purebulk.com.

Hey ironaddict. Good gains bro. A half inch gain with in the last time we talk is great progress for a vet to make. Us vets don’t have the luxury of quick gains anymore since our tunicas have been through a lot of Penis Enlargement milliage. This is why in my opinion Chemical Penis Enlargement is the next logical step.

Go to professional.muscle.com and you’ll see that Im on there as well as a few other members that are doing the chemical Penis Enlargement program. There you can find out a great deal of info on TB4 and igf-des.

I’ll be adding IGF-DES next if I platueo with what Im doing now. IGF actually causes cellular division in the CCs and smooth muscles of the penis when injected locally with a cock ring on to keep the chems localized. As the CCs grow in size, they’ll push and stretch the tunica out for a complete increase in tissue mass. IGF-DES will also create new veins and vessels, inhancing the penis's vascular network as growth takes place in the CCs and the tunica.

Yes. Scarring can happen with pinning your dick overtime but if you jelq after your pge1 erection goes down, this will help to break up any potential scar tissue from injecting. DMSO/PABA and adding Tb4 to your injection cocktail will help counter any scarring as well.

I’ve been doing full blown chemical Penis Enlargement for a little over a month now I think. I got a log in the alternative experiment section of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] if you want to follow my journey. So far my flaccid stretch has increased by .1. My flaccid girth has increased to 5.8 to 5.9 inches. So far no new erect gains as of yet but it’s still early in the game. Only a month an a week or so in.

I think things will change once I get my divocup in the mail so I can heal in an extended state. Normally I would just wear my silicone sleeve as an all day cock ring but Im sick and tired of having to take it off every 15 minutes to swap out stale blood with fresh blood. With a divocup, it appears you can wear it all day without having to take it off since blood circulation stays in tact just fine with a slight vaccum force keeping the penis heavy, full and engorged while flaccid.

If you’re saying your flaccid has been contracted and EQ is going down then I suggest you really start taking the DMSO/PABA applications seriously. A hard contracted/retracted flaccid means that the tunica is in defense mode. DMSO and PABA will help soften those tissues back up.

Also I remember you clamped a lot when I was on Thunders. Make sure not to go overboard with clamping because clamping is very rough on the penis and can put that penis into defense mode real quick. Especially when clamping super tight for long sessions. It’s the low oxygen environment under super heavy stress that causes the tunica to panic and retract.

Personally I think pumping is better. It’s not as hardcore as clamping but it provides slow gentle expansion of the tissues without putting the dick into defense mode and having things retract once you go flaccid. Also pumping works on length as well as girth since it’s expanding the tunica for girth and pulling on the ligs and connector points rooted into the base for length.

Hope this helps ironaddict. Welcome back bro.'

For those just chimming in. Got some new pics of my lastest recruit, Milly added to Team Snake on the previous page.
 
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Thanks for the more than lengthy reply, I know you are one busy fucker....get it? :P

That all helped a lot. the DMSO and paba thing will be ordered now, I have quadmix in the kitchen still so I will roll with that for a while. I imagine I should do the hanging during the day, and the erection at night after the damage has been done. I cannot wait to really loosen my flaccid up again, it usually hangs at 5.5-6 inches when I am relaxed, which makes me feel great.

So just so I can be clear, if I was to start EVERYTHING that you are on now, and honestly I will probably work up to it, can you hit me with the doses? I have been doing DMSO and iodine but I don't know if that is as effective.

dmso, paba, the amount of PGE-1, and the TB400 dose.

also, what site for dmso? mine is 99% which is risky I hear.
 
Also, how sure are you of ergopeps quality? I know caverject is supposed to be refrigerated once it is mixed, but obviously it is working well for you in terms of quick and massive hardness levels. I am giving strong looks to tb400 and going right into it, what the hell right? It is great for muscle injuries too, which I have to the left shoulder at the moment. ow are the erections the days you aren't on the stuff, and more importantly, have you noticed your erections being BETTER since you started (besides the hours after injecting of course) This could all point to scar tissue breakdown and the weakening of the tunica, god knows mine is way over strengthened.
 
ironaddict69;511670 said:
Also, how sure are you of ergopeps quality? I know caverject is supposed to be refrigerated once it is mixed, but obviously it is working well for you in terms of quick and massive hardness levels. I am giving strong looks to tb400 and going right into it, what the hell right? It is great for muscle injuries too, which I have to the left shoulder at the moment. ow are the erections the days you aren't on the stuff, and more importantly, have you noticed your erections being BETTER since you started (besides the hours after injecting of course) This could all point to scar tissue breakdown and the weakening of the tunica, god knows mine is way over strengthened.
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My erections are off the charts since starting it. I've been on it since the end of july. I don't use the ergopep stuff though
 
MikeShlort;511711 said:
My erections are off the charts since starting it. I've been on it since the end of july. I don't use the ergopep stuff though
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Awesome.
 
MikeShlort;511711 said:
My erections are off the charts since starting it. I've been on it since the end of july. I don't use the ergopep stuff though
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Do you use another peptide website? I assume you mean your erections when you AREN'T taking it are off the charts?
 
Learning about your chemical Penis Enlargement experiment. I really start to think that dudes like Shane Diesel and Jack Napier used it but they did bad cause their EQ is fucked. lol

Of course it has always been was obvious that Shane unit wasn't a gift of the nature. lol
 
Starks;512022 said:
Learning about your chemical Penis Enlargement experiment. I really start to think that dudes like Shane Diesel and Jack Napier used it but they did bad cause their EQ is fucked. lol

Of course it has always been was obvious that Shane unit wasn't a gift of the nature. lol
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How do you figure that about shane? Is it because it is so abnormally thick?
 
Yes and he did bodybuilding before adult entertainment so he probably experimented it then. It's just my assumption I've no proof about it though.
 
Lol doesn't surprise me if he fucked that up too considering you say he did bodybuilding but he's just fat. And he's a adult entertainment star and can't get an erection. What a loser. His videos are lame. Looks like an overweight Sam Cassell with a nerf bat painted brown, trying to feed it with two hands into a slut's hole. More like Shame Feeble.
 
MikeShlort;512065 said:
Lol doesn't surprise me if he fucked that up too considering you say he did bodybuilding but he's just fat. And he's a adult entertainment star and can't get an erection. What a loser. His videos are lame. Looks like an overweight Sam Cassell with a nerf bat painted brown, trying to feed it with two hands into a slut's hole. More like Shame Feeble.
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Mike where is it you get your caverject if you dont mind? are you using it for chemical pe also?
 
Yeah Shane is an ugly mofo, but he is 50 years old and for that age I think he has a good physique (better than 90% of the people I know who are in that age). Let's say he started pumping or any other form of (light) Penis Enlargement in his mid 20s or even early 30s, no wonder he has that monster size LOL.
 
Well if we talk about Shane Diesel I think he also was born very big in girth from beginning. Jack Napier is almost as big as shane in girth (not that big difference). But he got pretty much length advantages. Mandingo is pretty much smaller in girth of those guys but he is the biggest overall.

If a man is very serious about his girth workouts and do them very regularly I DO NOT THINK it does matter if he pumps 3 years instead of even 10 years, the results should be pretty much the same really. It's not like lenght you know, lenght limits takes much longer than girth.... Girth goes faster.
 
MikeShlort;512192 said:
I don't get it online. Yes I am using it for enlargement.
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Interesting. How long and what dose? What results have you seen?

I had no idea it would make erections even when not in use, better. Why do you think that is?

I have a very tough tunica, and I wonder if this would help with length at all. Although getting a thicker CC would be pretty cool.
 
hey snakeman newbie here - why dun you tell quinton about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]?? :)

It might save them, u know wat i mean? His ego gets a boost from the fact that he knows he could get big and he might thank you for it...
 
ironaddict69;512235 said:
Interesting. How long and what dose? What results have you seen?

I had no idea it would make erections even when not in use, better. Why do you think that is?

I have a very tough tunica, and I wonder if this would help with length at all. Although getting a thicker CC would be pretty cool.
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I've been using it since the end of July. I use low doses, 2-3 hours engorgement, 3 days a week.

I notice that my cock is hard like hard plastic when I'm erect. I don't know why it is. Probably because the penis is flooded with blood for such a long time during the dose, that when you're off it, you're able to get in maximum amount of blood because of the expansion and the amount of blood that is forced into the penis during the erections. I also have a larger flaccid so I imagine circulation is just better while on it.

You should try the DMSO and Paba treatment for your tunica.

I'm not really the guy to ask about PGE1. You should pay close attention to kingsnake, petersouth and mistake. I am doing minimal doses. I don't jelq after the dose, I stretch and extend. Ideally, I would be doing 5 hours engorgement, 15 hours a week minimum. But I am getting into hanging first before I worry about a solid PGE1 protocol.

I think hanging is the way to go for length gains, from what I read, specifically lig hanging, then tunica hanging. Then I feel that the Ronielle approach with PGE1 (long engorgement times and jelqing after the erections go down) would be the icing on the cake for any length. I would resume a pumping regiment as well while doing this.

The main reason I am continuing PGE1 treatment as I hang is because I don't want to stop then my source disappears during the time I am hanging. If I encounter problems because of it while hanging, I will discontinue use.

Petersouth and mistake seem to be having luck with long engorgement times and DLD hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches. Something I will try out once my hanging gains dry up. Always nice to have other options on the back burner.
 
MikeShlort;512386 said:
I've been using it since the end of July. I use low doses, 2-3 hours engorgement, 3 days a week.

I notice that my cock is hard like hard plastic when I'm erect. I don't know why it is. Probably because the penis is flooded with blood for such a long time during the dose, that when you're off it, you're able to get in maximum amount of blood because of the expansion and the amount of blood that is forced into the penis during the erections. I also have a larger flaccid so I imagine circulation is just better while on it.

You should try the DMSO and Paba treatment for your tunica.

I'm not really the guy to ask about PGE1. You should pay close attention to kingsnake, petersouth and mistake. I am doing minimal doses. I don't jelq after the dose, I stretch and extend. Ideally, I would be doing 5 hours engorgement, 15 hours a week minimum. But I am getting into hanging first before I worry about a solid PGE1 protocol.

I think hanging is the way to go for length gains, from what I read, specifically lig hanging, then tunica hanging. Then I feel that the Ronielle approach with PGE1 (long engorgement times and jelqing after the erections go down) would be the icing on the cake for any length. I would resume a pumping regiment as well while doing this.

The main reason I am continuing PGE1 treatment as I hang is because I don't want to stop then my source disappears during the time I am hanging. If I encounter problems because of it while hanging, I will discontinue use.

Petersouth and mistake seem to be having luck with long engorgement times and DLD hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches. Something I will try out once my hanging gains dry up. Always nice to have other options on the back burner.
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Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I personally think 3-4 hour erections are more than sufficient, as your results have proven. I too noticed my flaccid was larger when I was using the product continuously. I was told this is because all the flood gates are completely open while on PGE-1. I used to use quad mix. That shit is no joke.

I am ordering the paba and the PGE-1 along with the Tb4 tonight. If I do not see gains from any of this, I probably will not continue with chemical Penis Enlargement, but I see no reason why this purchase combined with the hanging I do (and it is pretty heavy) won't give me at least .25-5" as the caverject bottle has tons of doses in it.

Hanging is definitely key. I am unsure of jelqing after the injections die down, as it used to take me HOURS for it to really be flaccid again, but that does seem like a good plan. Pumping for sure, but be careful with hanging as the day after my long injections, I could use half the weight and the fatigue was incredible.

I am wondering if you get your PGE-1 from the pharmacy or from a different source? I have been bouncing around this forum so if you already told me, please forgive me.
 
I must add I haven't really gained anything using it. I haven't measured, but I think it's safe to say any gains are just EQ related. I seriously think hanging is the way to go, then PGE1 and pumping/jelqing.

The only benefit to using PGE1 while working length (hanging) I can see is if you're sexually active - it will improve erections, hanging makes the erections weaker until you adapt. I may very well have to stop the PGE1 protocol to work strictly lig hanging.

Have you done any hanging ironaddict? Your prayers may be answered through a year of proper hanging. Then add the PGE1 protocol for that added plumpness.

Just a theory. I can't really give solid advice, everything is speculation. All I have is one year's experience doing manuals and extending. I have also gained around .4" of girth through 2.5 months of pumping. Other than that, I really don't know shit. The people I am asking questions to are people like Bib and other hangers who have gotten very little length gains from manual work and have turned to hanging and gained inches. When it comes to the PGE1 treatment, I think Ronielle is the only person qualified to give advice, as he has done the treatment for at least 18 months and gotten gains. Oh, and the doctor who wrote the patent.
 
I must also add, ironaddict, that the fatigue you were experiencing was probably due to tunica soreness from the PGE1, and not the lig fatigue that is necessary to deform the ligs, from what I am reading on Bib's forum

If you were to ask Bib, he would tell you to not use PGE1, pumping or any girth work while hanging. Anything that causes "Tiredness, soreness, in the lateral layer of the tunica."

I think it's cool people here are taking new approaches but it maybe kind of foolish to be mixing all these methods together, maybe even harmful to results. I am seriously considering stopping the PGE1 injections. If there is any complications in my hanging from them, I am going to stop immediately. Hopefully since guys here are making noise about the PGE1, it will be more readily available when I am ready to go back on it, so it won't be an issue.

You have to keep in mind that it is recommended to be on the PGE1 for 18 months. It's not really something you try for a couple months to see if it gives you any gains with your current routine. I started on it with the intent of 18 months, then learned that it may interfere with hanging, that is the only reason I may go off it.

Same with hanging. It's a long term thing.

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I have no idea if DMSO and Paba will soften the tunica. I will ask a doctor what he thinks. I know the topical Verapamil helps break down existing fibrosis and prevents future. I was told this and prescribed it by a doctor. I am going to try DMSO and Paba out and see what happens. Again, it may have to go on the shelf as I hang for year or two.

I think what you are asking is if DMSO and Paba without PGE1 will soften the tunica. I would say that if it softens the tunica at all, using PGE1 with it is irrelevant. I have yet to find anything in medical writing that says PGE1 unlinks weaves in the tunica. I will ask a doctor this.
 
MikeShlort;512416 said:
I must also add, ironaddict, that the fatigue you were experiencing was probably due to tunica soreness from the PGE1, and not the lig fatigue that is necessary to deform the ligs, from what I am reading on Bib's forum

If you were to ask Bib, he would tell you to not use PGE1, pumping or any girth work while hanging. Anything that causes "Tiredness, soreness, in the lateral layer of the tunica."

I think it's cool people here are taking new approaches but it maybe kind of foolish to be mixing all these methods together, maybe even harmful to results. I am seriously considering stopping the PGE1 injections. If there is any complications in my hanging from them, I am going to stop immediately. Hopefully since guys here are making noise about the PGE1, it will be more readily available when I am ready to go back on it, so it won't be an issue.

You have to keep in mind that it is recommended to be on the PGE1 for 18 months. It's not really something you try for a couple months to see if it gives you any gains with your current routine. I started on it with the intent of 18 months, then learned that it may interfere with hanging, that is the only reason I may go off it.

Same with hanging. It's a long term thing.

Medicating:

I have no idea if DMSO and Paba will soften the tunica. I will ask a doctor what he thinks. I know the topical Verapamil helps break down existing fibrosis and prevents future. I was told this and prescribed it by a doctor. I am going to try DMSO and Paba out and see what happens. Again, it may have to go on the shelf as I hang for year or two.

I think what you are asking is if DMSO and Paba without PGE1 will soften the tunica. I would say that if it softens the tunica at all, using PGE1 with it is irrelevant. I have yet to find anything in medical writing that says PGE1 unlinks weaves in the tunica. I will ask a doctor this.
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Hey mike, yes I know it was tunica soreness. Most of my progress is documented over at thunders place. I have been hanging since 2009 or 2010. I fucked it up for the most part until about 1.5 years ago, but length gains have been a REAL bitch. My ligs are maxed out and it is all tunica work nowadays. I basically have gone from 6 NBPenis EnlargementL x6 (the only way I measured back then) to 7.5 NBPenis EnlargementL and a 7.5 base, and a 6.75 midshaft with a good erection. My results have been good, but I have always wanted a 9" BPenis EnlargementL and I am .6" away. I doubt I will stop there. I am a 260 lb power lifter so it doesn't really look all that long.

I am glad you are hanging now, and yes it WILL work for you. AttacHydromaxent with the bib can be difficult, and reaching (slowly) the amount of weight you need to cause gains can take a while, but if you follow his instructions, you will get them. For most people this is 8-15 lbs. For me, that is barely where they even started.

I think PGE-1 will benefit me because my tunica has gotten tough. paba and the dmso will help along with the TB4. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] do almost nothing for me, and due to my excess scrotal skin and larger girth, wearing them hurts badly.
 
Wow iron, you already have a huge cock. I hear what you say about it looking small since you're so big - I've been into lifting weights and have gained mass but I prefer being skinny - makes mine look bigger. I've been sick the past week and lost weight and size and it really makes it look bigger compared to the rest of my body. I'm naturally scrawny though. I guess in your case, PGE1 and jelqing is the way to go. Check out Ronielle's blog on chempe, there's a link to it on his divocup site, divocup.com
Go for long engorgement times
 
Damn King, with the amount of pussy you've been slayin, who needs PGE1!!! You're barred up all day.:P
Good work man, good to see you makin use of those gains. Love this thread, it should be made into a movie.
 
Ramrod360;512545 said:
Damn King, with the amount of pussy you've been slayin, who needs PGE1!!! You're barred up all day.:P
Good work man, good to see you makin use of those gains. Love this thread, it should be made into a movie.
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Ya. If I ever get a girlfriend, I am going to demand that she read this thread in it's entirety.
 
MikeShlort;512464 said:
Wow iron, you already have a huge cock. I hear what you say about it looking small since you're so big - I've been into lifting weights and have gained mass but I prefer being skinny - makes mine look bigger. I've been sick the past week and lost weight and size and it really makes it look bigger compared to the rest of my body. I'm naturally scrawny though. I guess in your case, PGE1 and jelqing is the way to go. Check out Ronielle's blog on chempe, there's a link to it on his divocup site, divocup.com
Go for long engorgement times
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Thanks for the kind words. I am going to reply to your PM now. PGE-1 would be really shitty for someone going for ligament gains, but mine are all used up, it is all tunica work. So manking the tunica palleable and more flimsy, should help me a ton. I can hang 20 lbs straight up over a pulley without much discomfort believe it or not. I worked down to 15 lbs last night with fatigue, which was rare. I have looked at ronielles site, he is knowledable thank you for the link.
 
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Hey fellas. Busy couple of days. I'll report back to every one tomorrow.
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Look out for Jaz's call, we are all set for the Nov. 1....I will be driving through Georgia if you want us to pick you up.
 
Hey ironaddict. The amount of pge1 that I take varies. PGE1 is unpredictable at times but on the norm I inject 10mcgs for a good 3 hour erection. With TB4 I take 100mcgs per injection. I back load the tb4 into the same syringe that I extract my pge1 from to form my cocktail.

With caverject or pge1, make sure you are using a trimix that has more pge1 then any other vasodiolater in it or just pure pge1 by itself like I use. With a pure pge1 erection you’ll be in some pain as your erection aches. This is the pge1 unlinking the cologen bonds of the tunica during the erection. Other vasodiolators don’t do this. They just simply give you an erection. PGE1 is king.

Definitely follow this protocol ironaddict, before giving up chemical Penis Enlargement. One thing I suggest you stop doing right now is clamping because it’s to rough and will harden your tunica more. Just the stress of a tunica unlinking pge1 erection for 3 to 4 hours will be enough and if you want to take it to a higher level you can LIGHTLY pump for a few sets right in the middle of your pge1 erection time.

With jelqing this is optional. There’s lots of mixed opinions on jelqing with chemical Penis Enlargement. Dr Adams which is the holder of the chemical Penis Enlargement patent, is against it, saying that jelqing will harden the tunica. CoughRonielleCough on the other hand is a jelqing fanatic. Hey jelqs for 45 mins to an hour after his chemical erection goes down to take advantage of the cologen unlinking that the pge1 did and further stress the tissues and create micro damage. Then he puts on his divo cup [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to heal in an extended state between sessions. Never letting his penis turtle.

He’s claiming a 2 inch length and 2 inch girth gain from this so it’s really up to you wether to incorporate jelqing with this protocol. I personally like to do it after my pge1 erection goes down to help break up any potential scar tissue at the injection site and for further expansion and tension on the penis. The way I see it is the dmso/paba should prevent the tunica from toughening up if you stay away from hardcore shit like clamping and heavy ass hanging past 20 pounds. I also take 1 gram of paba orally on top of this as well as vitaman E 400 iu 3 times a day to combat agains tissue toughening and scarring.

For DMSO I get mine from supplement warehouse.com. The 70% solution with 30% distilled water is easier on the skin and just as effective as 99% solution.

I get all of my injection chemicals from ergopep.com right now.

With powdered PABA I get that from purebulk.com.

Hey Starks. With Shane Deasal and Napier, I don’t know if they’ve done any forms of Penis Enlargement. For all we know they could both just be natural and won the genetic lottery. It seems with Shane and Jack, they have some amazing tunica mass and elasticity but they lack smooth muscle and pc muscles strength to power there erections. Thus there poor EQ all the time.

For your other question. I got my divo cup from Ronielles chemical Penis Enlargement website

Hey mikeshlorts. I don't think you need to worry about pge1 erections getting in the way of your hanging. Just do all of your hanging in the first half of the day then in the evenings do your pge1 erection workouts. A lot of people say doing length work first is the way to go then girth work. I don't see it that way. We are working on increasing raw tissue mass in the CCS and in the tunica. An increase in mass is going to result in a length gain and a girth gain anyway. I've always done Penis Enlargement with the focus to increase tissue mass and not so much length first or girth later and the result has been me making great gains in both measurments because I increased mass through out as well as tuncia elasticity. Even Dr Adam's subjects gained both length and girth from just manual stretches and being erect for 3 to 6 hours a day.

Look at coughroniellecough. He didn't even hang. For mechanical forms of Penis Enlargement he just injected for pge1 erections, jelqed, and whore his [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to stay elongated while healing and he's claiming he went from 7 x 5 to 9 x 7. No real focus on length or girth specific but he gained in both bigtime because he increased the total mass of his penis so it woud be able to hold more blood, resulting in a longer and thicker erection. By increasing raw tissue mass of the penis wether it's from hanging, jelqing, pumping or being engorged for hours at a time, this will increase both length and girth all at once. The only difference is with hanging, some of those length gains will come from the ligs and connector points deep in the base.

Hey Medicating. Yes. DMSO mixed with PABA should soften your tunica after a couple weeks of use. You should do two treatments a day about 20 to 40 minutes long each treatment.

Hey sir wankalot. If you’re measuring correct then that means you’re using 40 mcgs of pge1 right now which is a FUCKING lot. If I took that much pge1 at one time I’d be erect for 12 hours probrabley. You’re building up a high tolerance to it which is going to get expensive for you as your tolerance goes up even more with time.

I think coughroniellecough said he has to use a whopping 300 mcgs of pge1 just for a 2 to 3 hour erection.

So far my erections definitely look bigger then ever. Lengthwise and girthwise. I’ll be measuring soon to see if I’ve made any erect gains with this method.

It's late so tomorrow I'll update my chemical pe log to fill everyone in on my last pge1 session which was yesterday October 17th. I took today off which is the 18th. Tomorrow on the 19th Im got another pge1 session and will report that as well.
 
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Wankalot - you probably got a less potent batch - maybe it stayed out of the fridge too long on shipping. The most I've done is 28 units - this gave me about 3-4 hours. I notice each batch has it's own potency. Or maybe you aren't hitting the CC properly.

Kingsnake - I find that after a PGE1 dose, my penis is less stretchy, less pliable than it was before the dose. Basically shorter and fatter - the opposite of what I want. I don't want to toughen my tunica up so it makes it impossible to gain from hanging for tunica gains. I think I'm going to go off it while I hang - I don't see the point to stay on when I'm going for length. Then, after all my hanging gains are maximized, I will go back on it for overall volume of penis growth.

According to Bib, I have internal penis that I am able to get out from hanging. May as well get those gains first, right? Then the PGE1 will not only affect the penis that was there before hanging, but the new penis that has been brought out from inside me, therefore affecting the most amount of penis, maximizing gains. This is the way I see it, at least. Hopefully Bib's methods work for me, cuz I haven't gained shit for length following other methods.

My only concern is will I be able to get a hold of a PGE1 supply in 1-2 years? Let's hope.
 
Hey Kingsnake heads up on the Divosuit and Divocups. I have both products and can tell from personal experience that both products are "ok". One Divosuit will no keep you at all a full extended state at best your about 50% extended. You will need two at a minimum to really extended your penis. Three and even four would your best bet. If I'm not mistaken the maker of the Divosuit wears four on at a time. They do have their pros. They are durable and can be washed. I've had silicone sleeves which work great but wear out pretty quickly. If you can make your own you would be money.
The Divocups I find utterly useless. They are not heavy enough to extend your penis to any length. An they are kind of a bitch to put on. In my opinion they are to time consuming if you have a normal job and can't afford to spend n extra couple of minutes in the bathroom putting them on. This is just my view point from the experience I've had with them.
 
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How would you rate the divosuit vs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jims[/words] wrap or a what-a-grip?
 
Hey Snake, do you follow the 10 hr a week principle from BIB with hanging or do you follow what work for you?

Also will PABA works alone if I apply it directly on my member?
 
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Jaz tried you yesterday. I gave him your email and he will be in touch. We are on for November 1.
 
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How would you rate the divosuit vs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jims[/words] wrap or a what-a-grip?
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As far as divo suit vs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words] for comfort I would go with divouit but not by much the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words] wrap isnt bad either and as far as keeping you extended i would go with the edge for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle jim[/words] because you stetch it out then wrap it holds very well and when it comes to keeping extended for the divosuit you will need more than 1 for better results because what that does is compress your penis more causing it to extend more. As far as sleeping I would give it to divosuit as well even though it can get uncomfy at night at the base which caused me to pull it off and go back to sleep. Lastly when it comes to peeing you can actually piss wearing the divosuit I wouldn't try with more than one layer though because like i said compression will determine what you feel while pissing but it may seem Divosuit has more key factors I would suggest the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle jim[/words] wrap because it keeps me extended at a longer length and thats what I want and all the other stuff like pissing and sleeping with it I can just take it off and re-wrap so it's no big deal i sont know about what a grip so I cant say
 
I can't piss with divo on though, not even one layer. I pissed all over myself and the wall. I can look back at it now and laugh but I was pissed off (or rather on) at the time.
 
Those divocups and divosuits are absolute shit. Snake, you hang with 10-20 lbs.

.2 lbs will do nothing for your dick. I promise. I would go back to montes weights, but [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] systems are not needed if you hang 3-4 sets a day. You constantly are pulling out the adhesions and micro tears at that rate.
 
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