A month or two ago, someone had sent me a private message regarding a 14 month old thread I created on a Bodybuilding forum regarding hormones and penis enlargement. Thankfully, I am much more informed today. So I typed out a helpful guide to this guy. I'll post it here for anyone who is interested. Something good t refer to.
"I got your message from the Steroid Forum. I don't use that forum but I can help you out.
First off - How serious are you about getting your penis bigger? Are you willing to put in time, energy, research and commitment? It's the same as getting any other body part to it's maximum potential. You have to do it hard and you have to do it right. You have to do it daily. You have to do it for years. But it works.
It's called Penis Enlargement exercises. When I posted my original questions about a chemical that could enlarge the penis on the steroid and bodybuilding forums, I was new to the idea of penis enlargement. The past year, I have done tons of research and I have learned a lot, made a lot of mistakes, wasted my time, and also learned many amazing secrets. I'll share the information you need to get you started at doing penis enlargement exercises the right way.
First - Become a member at the Penis Enlargement forums.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/ - Penis Enlargement forum
http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/index.php - Penis Enlargement Forum for Hangers (This will be important once you are ready for hanging)
http://www.pegym.com/forums/ - Penis Enlargement forum
I wrote a private message to a user at one of the forums a couple weeks ago, basically explaining my approach to Penis Enlargement and the way I believe Penis Enlargement should be done. It's pretty much all the information you will need to get started on learning about the most cutting edge, effective techniques. Here's the message:
"There are many ways to get a big penis, some aren't advertised on this forum. It all depends how bad you want it. I spent the last year learning about Penis Enlargement and I will tell you pretty much everything I know, all the resources I have that took me a year of digging.
This will be overwhelming amount of information at first, but at your own pace, use the resources I give you to learn on your own. Read, read, read. Ask questions.
I will give you the basics:
First off, work your length. You don't want to gain too much girth before you gain your length because that makes it tougher to deform the tunica. Also can have adverse effects working girth while you try to hang. This means save pumping until you have close to your desired length, or until you can't wait any longer to get more girth. YOu can still gain length with added girth and many gain length while working girth, it's just harder and hangers frown upon it.
Start off with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. 1-3 15 minute sets a day. Start off with one 15 minute set per day of manual stretching. Pull lightly, not hard at first. Gradually, build up force and/or length of time doing the stretch. Do this routine until you stop seeing gains from it. You can find a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] here or at other forums. Jelqing is good too. You will notice much better erections first before anything else.
After 1-2 months of the basic routine, start adding more manual exercises, see which ones work for you. There are many here.
I'm thinking the logical place to go after your manual exercises have dried up, after you have maxed out your "newbie gains" (give it a solid 4 months before advancing, until you haven't gained with a month of work) would be getting into hanging.
http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/index.php
That's the hanging site. Read everything. Ask questions. The maker of the device and owner of the forum answers questions daily. He'll even look at pictures of your penis and tell you roughly how much length you can gain.
Basically with hanging, you hang straight down and BTC (between the cheeks) until you max out your ligament gains, then start hanging at higher angles (over the shoulder, over the leg) to stretch the tunica. Bib will tel you everything you need to know and it's all there at his forum. There is a lot of good hanging stuff here too. The user malehanger at pegym is pretty knowledgeable.
After you have maxed out your hanging gains (this could be anywhere from 1-3 years), you can start pumping. This will give you girth and could give you a bit extra length. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forum has a discount on a good water pump(
https://Bathmatecheckout.com/ca/ord...tr=103c12fa635aff48a5ceaaf4906045&frontpage=0). I've gained permanent girth from just 2 months using this device. You'll want to get into looking at all kinds of pumps. Here's another link that will be very helpful for pumping:
http://vacuumpumpingguide.blogspot.ca/?zx=e1498ce9cd56bc00
There's even chemical ways of Penis Enlargement. Here's a thread that will tell you a lot of things to do with chemical Penis Enlargement. I advise reading through this guy's entire thread, because it is full of very good Penis Enlargement information, along with some things you may not want to know about women, but need to know to become a balanced man. Here:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...nd-brand-new-gains-with-pics-and-comparisons)
I take PGE1 injections. I think they are the future of Penis Enlargement. My new routine will be nothing but hanging, jelqing, stretching and PGE1 injections. My routine thread is here:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?67630-Mike-Shlort-s-Journey-To-Becoming-A-Real-Man
Here are two very crucial links on PGE1:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html
http://www.chempe.com/2010/04/injections.html?zx=a425f320f82e2b5d
Here is a link to buy PGE1 online. It is used for erectile dysfunction patients, especially in me with ED resulting from prostate cancer. Here's the link (keep this secret):
http://ergopep.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46&products_id=179
Here's a video of me injecting and explaining how to inject PGE1 properly:
http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=gcFy2-S569- Pin: 1337
A couple things I forgot to mention in the video:
1. I warm up before the dose, as PGE1 is an exercise like anything else.
2. When you go to push the plunger down, there should be no resistance other than the resistance of the syringe plunger itself. If there is any added resistance, that means you are not in the CC, you are in the skin. If you inject in the skin, it will bubble up and could be painful and will not be effective.
3. If you do an injection and it's a miss (you don't get a response) DO NOT do another injection. Wait until your next injection. Ask Petersouth, you will over dose and risk priapism.
4. I was told don't exceed 3 times a week, but you can do it how you please.
5. Anything over a 5 hour erection, you are in danger of a priapism and could lose your dick. Be careful.
There is a lot more information needed on PGE1 and safety procedures. You will have to look for these as I don't have a link. The main things: Any erection over 5 hours and you are in danger zone. Sudafed will bring the erections down, as will doing strenuous activity like running up stairs to get your heart rate up very rapidly. All else fails, you need a trip to the emergency room. I'll leave that up to you to find out the risks and safety procedures of PGE1 injections. Basically start with a small dose and work your way up to a dose that makes you hard for desired amount of time (2-5 hours) and you'll be fine. Like anyhting else, start slow, gradually add more time.
Here's another thread of someone taking the injections with great results:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?67395-Peter-South-s-PGE1-(caverject)-Experiment
Other devices you may want to look into are [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] (can get a good deal on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] forum). Other than that, I just use an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], a hanger, PGE1 injections, and I own the 2 sizes of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] pumps.
Alternatives to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are divocups and divosuits (google them). Made by the same guy who has the chempe blog.
There is so much for you to learn about Penis Enlargement, that is up to you. It is all out there for you to easily find. This stuff that I am giving you, not many know about all this. This is my year's worth of Penis Enlargement work. It's not very detailed in this message, but all the resources are there. It's up to you to read it all and learn it and learn how to apply it. What I am giving you will make you capable of creating a penis that is large like the man you speak of in your post. Who cares about his wife bragging she can barely fit her mouth around it? That means he has large girth. Girth is easy to gain. Pumping, clamping, PGE1. You will be a monster.
Oh yeah. Andractim is used to treat micropenis. It is a topical DHT (testosterone) gel that you apply to your penis. Here is where to buy it:
http://allsaintsclinic.org/testosterone-gel.shtml
Here's a link to a study done using it for enlargement:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/8326617?dopt=Abstract
If you want to know more, you can google about it, search the threads here about it and the doses. Also, kingsnake at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] (I gave you the link to his thread earlier in this message) can tell you more about it. Or Ronielle (the chempe guy who does the injections - he charges people to get advice from him about PGE1 and other chempe methods and sources to buy) you can talk to him.
I am sure I am leaving out so much information but these links are the most important parts. You can always message me on here and ask specific questions - I will find you an answer, I have the resources. I feel for you. A big penis is really what women want, and it's up to us to get one to compete.
Lots of people on here will shoot down my approaches and bad mouth be because of my ways, but it's your call whether to listen to them. The information at pegym forums is very good, but they have closed minds to a lot of different ways to go about Penis Enlargement. There is risk involved like anything else, but if you want it bad enough, you will take it.
I want it bad enough, and I guarantee you that I felt as bad, if not worse, about myself and my penis than you do right now. That drove me to find all this stuff.
Good luck. Ask me anything you need to. Everything you need to grow is all here. It's up to you to learn it, perfect it and apply it. I will always be here to help you, as will everyone at bib's hanging forum and the good people at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. We love helping each other reach our goals."
My user name at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is MikeShlort. You can message me anytime you'd like and ask me questions if you become a member at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters Of Size[/words].
Here's a link to my progress thread at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?67630-Mike-Shlort-s-Journey-To-Becoming-A-Real-Man
Here's a link to an article I wrote on hanging, everything you need to start hanging (Read Posts # 191-199) :
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...hlort-s-Journey-To-Becoming-A-Real-Man/page10
And to end off, here's a message I sent a guy who was curious about pumping:
"I got fluid bad buildup when I went over board. If you do a gradual routine where you pump to a reasonable level for a reasonable amount of time and only progress in force and time in tiny increments, you will not get much or any fluid buildup. Also, jelqing in between pumping sets makes it so you have no fluid buildup - however, your expansion is not as great as if you were to just do straight sets. You'd have to do more sets to get more expansion, but as long as you're keeping at it daily, then you'll be fine. Eventually, you'll want to add a second, then a third session of pumping/jelqing in daily.
I temporarily quit girth work to focus on length, but I know when I get back into it, it will be lots of work to get to my goal girth size. I have a theory that taking breaks while working girth is a good idea, not length though. I have not tested this theory yet but it is based on the fact that I could not exceed 5.85" girth (not pumped measurement) even after a gainless month. But I still have that size. So my theory is that if I were to start pumping again, I would again gain a small amount (0.3" or so) and then plateau. So I would have to wait to start pumping again.
The theory is like bodybuilding. You train for months and you hit a plateau; your body is only going to get so big. Then once you stop working out, say you don't work out for 6 months, you are still 10-20 lbs heavier than before you started working out. This is now your base weight. So when you go back to working out, you will reach a new bigger size, since your base weight is now larger than before. The idea is that you can gain a certain amount of size past your base weight before you plateau, but if your base weight goes up in size, then you should be able to exceed your maximum from before. Exact same idea with pumping. This is how my body works, may not be the case for you.
You really have to try it out for yourself, be conservative but dedicated, and go slowly. If you're just going to mindlessly pump away with no theory of internal corpus cavernosum/spongiosum expansion and try to fill the tube then you will get buildup. But in my case, even when I did that, I still gained.
However, I had bad fluid buildup on my foreskin, which hurt and fucked up my next day's session. So I got to a point where I wanted to get in the maximum amount of work without causing any foreskin fluid buildup. A lot of the problem was that the pump I was using and the shape of my penis. I was sucked into the plastic, which is good because it causes better expansion (and is good for length gains as well - I never had any but many report it) but bad because the way me penis is shaped, my foreskin is going to be the part that is getting sucked to the top of the tube, thus causing bad fluid buildup.
Another thing you want to watch out for is your penis getting squeezed at a certain point, causing the circulation to the skin cut off. I had bad discoloration because of it, which is still there but has faded significantly. There is also permanent marks on the underside of my shaft. The problem was the pump I was using (Bathmate [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] original) would suck in the most at the bottom, around the girthiest part of my shaft - the base. So this caused the circulation to be cut off and the skin discolored. It's called "The Rings Of Death". This can be avoided by using a pumping sleeve. I think they solved this problem with the new model of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I did not really care about the cosmetic appearance of my penis - I was concerned with size.
I think pumping is a great tool. You just need to do it properly. Use a pump until you outgrow it and it becomes painful or causes any discoloration. I own the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] as well, which is a hell of a lot bigger. I found it gave a good pump with less fluid buildup and major base girth gains, the opposite of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. The expansion was less than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] but that is just physics - the closer you are sucked into the sides of the pump, the better the suction. There was a large learning curve for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].
When I get back into pumping, I am going to buy several cylinder sizes - some for pumping for length, some for girth, some large for base girth etc.
Here are the two routines I used to get my permanent girth gains. They are quite basic and incorporate basic Penis Enlargement principles. Here is the link:
http://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/46379-mikeshlort-pumping-routine.html
Here is another link on pumping which I believe is probably very good information for advanced pumping. I have not personally practiced any of the techniques outlined in this guide but I plan to once I return to pumping again. I found the link while browsing one day and saved it for when I pump again:
http://vacuumpumpingguide.blogspot.ca/?zx=687ce52b1759bafb
The pictures on this site show a ton of guys pumping excessively and getting fluid buildup but judging by the size of their cocks, it seems to be working for them.
Here's a link to an exercise for head girth:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...s-Vacuum-Constricted-Boa-s-for-BIG-HEAD-Gains!!
Here is a good thread showing a guy who has pumped for 15 years with amazing EQ and minimal fluid buildup:
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?13527-Pumping-Results
Hope all this helps. If you have any questions, ask me. Good luck."
I know this is a lot of strange information to take in all at once. Take your time, study it. Read it over. In the meantime, start on a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] - consisting of manual stretching and jelqs. Start light, gradually build up intensity. There are tons of threads and information about newbie exercises on the forums. Penis Enlargementgym forum has pictures for the exercises.
Once you plateau from proper manual stretching (with proper warm ups) then you move onto hanging. This could last for 2 years, hanging. But many men gain significant length from hanging.
Looking for a magic potion to inject into your penis is stupid if you haven't maximized gains from manual exercises and hanging. I could go on for an hour about how it is necessary to stretch the suspensory ligaments to full capacity in order to properly target the tunica for stretch, then start girth work (which include injections of PGE1 and possible other things in my protocol when I come to girth work - not for a long time, until hanging length gains are maximized).
Just do this: Work length before girth.
Manual stretching first.
Hanging for ligament stretch after (hanging at low angles - BTC and SD)
Hanging for tunica stretch after (hanging at high angles - OTS, SO, OTL etc)
Girth work - pumping, clamping, manual girth exercises, PGE1 injections with potentiators (ie. IGF 1, Viagra, ETC...) You gotta read up on this shit before you mess with it.
One more important thing - Kegeling during sex is what causes premature ejaculation. Kegeling = flexing your PC muscles. Your PC muscles = the muscles that stops the flow of urine when you are urinating. Stop flexing these muscles in sex and you will be able to better control your ejaculation.
I've given you lots of information. I will answer any questions you have but please do your best to research and use the links I provided to your advantage.
If you have any questions, you can email me back or send me a message at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words], my user name is MikeShlort. You will have a better chance of reaching me if you send me a message at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words], because I don't check this email often and my inbox gets flooded with notifications.
Remember, Penis Enlargement is a long time commitment. Good luck!"
*joke stolen from Garry Shandling*)