Mike Shlort's Journey To Becoming A Real Man

Are your ligs reaching fatigue within the first two sets? If not, you definitely need to move up in weight.

If yes, you should still move up in weight:

1) Is your attachment point (where the hanger clamps onto your penis) conditioned enough to support adding more weight?

2) Have you been hanging 6.6lbs for 7 days?

Move up to 7.5lbs if you said yes to 1) and 2)
 
MikeShlort;534372 said:
Are your ligs reaching fatigue within the first two sets? If not, you definitely need to move up in weight.

If yes, you should still move up in weight:

1) Is your attachment point (where the hanger clamps onto your penis) conditioned enough to support adding more weight?

2) Have you been hanging 6.6lbs for 7 days?

Move up to 7.5lbs if you said yes to 1) and 2)
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Thanks for your advise.
I don't reach fatigue in the first to sets. I got it in my 5th ot 6th set.
I will be 7 days on thursday and I'm going to move up to 7.7lbs(3,5kg) next thursday.
 
KingCobra;534401 said:
Thanks for your advise.
I don't reach fatigue in the first to sets. I got it in my 5th ot 6th set.
I will be 7 days on thursday and I'm going to move up to 7.7lbs(3,5kg) next thursday.
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I suggest you move up this Thursday. No sense sticking with a weight that doesn't give you fatigue in the first two sets. Unless the attachment point is too sensitive to do it.
 
We all knew I was full of shit when I said I was satisfied with 7.15" NBPenis EnlargementL. I am gunning for 7.5" NBPenis EnlargementL x 6.25" MEG. I feel that will be a sufficient size for 90% of cock sluts. Probably too big for many, but fuck them. They can stretch their filthy holes for all I care.

I am currently ~7.15"NBPenis EnlargementL x 5.75" MEG.

As soon as I am consistently measuring at 7.5" NBPenis EnlargementL, I will start to pump about a month after that point. As I cement, I will work girth. PGE1, pumping, jelqing etc. I may buy a cheap vac hanger to cement and do girth work.

I've also come to the conclusion that kingsnake's (and many others') theory that the penis should be stretched between hanging sets. So I will be extending at work during the week as much as I can.

My reasoning for wanting the extra size is that it will be visually stimulating and impressive. Fuck it if I can't get it all the way in on most women. I'll force my way in if I have to. Dirty whores want nothing but cock and status, I will give them what they want.
 
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I think 7.25"-7.5" x 6.25" is more than reasonable. I don't want it to be much more than a quarter inch longer than her maximum cervical depth. And I am not interested in old women or single moms, so 6.25" MEG would be more than enough to stretch a girls pussy to fit my cock. Before, I was like 6.8" NBPenis EnlargementL and around 7" MEG after a pumping session, and I thought that looked too short and fat, but now that I think of it, you'd want it to be fatter than it is long, because then it wouldn't bend as much and it would be a solid chunk moving as one piece. I think 7.25-7.5 with a girth of 6.25" would be a ridiculous cylinder for slut-holes.

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hey Mike in your measured pics it looks like you cheated yourself out of about a half inch nbpel because the ruler wasn't all the way at the base...You still doing that?
 
MFOMNI;534740 said:
hey Mike in your measured pics it looks like you cheated yourself out of about a half inch nbpel because the ruler wasn't all the way at the base...You still doing that?
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I do that in every situation.

No, that was a proper measurement. I measure the same way every time. My newer measurement of 7.15" is accurate, measured the same way.
 
Here's a good profile picture that I will use in the future to track changes. I estimate I'm about 7.10" NBPenis EnlargementL. 5.75" MEG for sure.

I find these side view pictures are the most accurate for determining length and are the best because they are very hard to exaggerate with angles. I can make my dick look huge with camera angles but this photo is a no bullshit accurate depiction of Mike Shlort:

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Also, look how lean I am now. Compared to July, when I was still "bulking" (what a stupid concept):

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That was July 7th, 2012.

The shame of it is, this is how I looked before I decided my body needed to get bigger (about 14 months ago):

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That picture was taken about December 20th, 2011.

I pretty much spent a year gaining 30 lbs then shedding it when I realized I like having definition more than mass.

The pros of being a huge, fat fuck was I was much stronger. The cons - well, see for yourself.

I see guys at the gym in perma bulk mode. They have huge guts, huge arms with no definition and lift 300 lbs. But they look like puffy Michelin Men. What's the point? Unless you're a fucking lumberjack, you don't need to be that strong. Isn't the point of working out to appeal to cocksluts?

Not to mention being lean makes my cock look much bigger.

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This was a lesson in body image problems. Don't waste your time gorging yourself with food to get big if it's only going to make you look like a fat slob. Waste of time. At least I can say I learned how to work out and how my body works in the process.
 
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Mike, what's your diet like for leaning down? I'm pretty lean but I've got a bit of stomach and fat pad that are very stubborn. Seriously, should I just hit cardio really hard for a couple of months and lift intermediate weights mixed with deadlifts and squats?
 
neognostic;534880 said:
Mike, what's your diet like for leaning down? I'm pretty lean but I've got a bit of stomach and fat pad that are very stubborn. Seriously, should I just hit cardio really hard for a couple of months and lift intermediate weights mixed with deadlifts and squats?
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I leaned down just from diet. I was also sick for three weeks in December, so that helped. But mainly just diet. I've hardly exercised for the majority of the time since I've been getting lean.

When I was exercising, I was just doing regular lifting then I would do interval training. I'd jog for 2 min, then sprint for 1 min, repeat. I'd do that for 10-20 minutes. That helped a lot. Also I stopped all the protein shakes except for just one after workout.

I've heard the expression "abs are made in the kitchen" from a dude who is in his 40s or 50s and jacked. It's really quite true. Eating properly will get you looking fit, then adding the weight lifting, stomach work and cardio on top just cuts you up. I recently started going to the gym again and I am looking nice after a workout.

The key is really figuring out when to eat, how much to eat and when not to eat.

I got the info on what to eat from like 4 websites. I will give you the links tomorrow. I basically listened to what it said for all meals: no added sugars, preservatives etc. for ex, if you eat yogurt, add your own fruit and buy all natural 0% fat yogurt.
- Lean meats - chicken, turkey, beef, fish (i eat salmon and tuna)
- Raw fruits and vegetables
- Nuts
- Lots of water
- Fish oils with each meal
- If you're going to eat dairy, eat low fat dairy
- Eggs are great - the bullshit about the yolk being high in cholesterol is bullshit. It's good cholesterol. I eat two eggs every morning. I am lean as fuck. You can research for yourself but all the information I've found states that eating whole eggs is fine. No sense just eating the whites.
- Avoid processed foods, including lunch meats. Avoid things with added sugars, preservatives. Read the labels. The less ingredients, the better. Shit you can't pronounce as ingredients, avoid.
- Avoid bread and wheat. Oatmeal is cool though. Bigger oats = better.

When I was cycling 50 km 2-4 days a week I was looking cut as fuck. You can see how I looked in the picture from Dec. 2011. I have even more definition in my stomach now. Once I start doing ab exercises and lifting heavier, I suspect I will be cut up very nicely. My approach for lifting will be very different now. Before I would just gorge myself with food and lift each day but I wasn't able to keep up with all the calories I was taking it, yet I still would lose size rapidly if I missed a couple workouts.

The beauty with eating right is I've maybe worked out between 5-10 times since early December and the whole time I've looked like a jeans model (from the neck down).

To be fair, I am naturally lean (lean-kinda fat body type). I can easily lose weight. I have small bones and I am 6 feet tall, so I am not stocky and put on weight easily. But I've never really had abs like I do now.

I was 16.9% body fat, 181 lbs Oct 2012. On Jan 31, 2013 I was 14.3% body fat, 166 lbs. Of that 15 lbs lost, 7.2lbs was fat. Not too bad considering that was 80% due to diet alone.

I believe I'd need supplements (legal or otherwise) to get below 13-14% body fat.

I'll get you those links soon.
 
Hey Mike Shlorts. Great progress thread bro. Definitely been keeping eye on this thread. You are doing it right by getting as much gains from hanging first. In that side erect shot up above you look longer then npbel 7.15 inches. Keep it up bro.
 
Very nice pics Mike.
You did great with Penis Enlargement and fatloss!!!
I agree with kingsnake, you look bigger man. Your EQ seems to be good.
The cock sluts must be lining up for you now :P
 
MikeShlort;534853 said:
Here's a good profile picture that I will use in the future to track changes. I estimate I'm about 7.10" NBPenis EnlargementL. 5.75" MEG for sure.
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Keep it up Mike. Looks longer than 7.1

That's definitely a pussy pleaser.
 
Thanks for the props guys.

I couldn't fucking sleep and that R3dd1t page powersnake posted in another thread was aimed at my head worse than a crack relapse so I just jerked off to it. Fuck. So much for being able to stay hard in missionary for another month at least.

The good news is I am definitely 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL when I'm fully aroused.

Thurs Feb 28:

3 sets BTC

3-3.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

3 sets BTC
 
MikeShlort;534924 said:
I leaned down just from diet. I was also sick for three weeks in December, so that helped. But mainly just diet. I've hardly exercised for the majority of the time since I've been getting lean.

When I was exercising, I was just doing regular lifting then I would do interval training. I'd jog for 2 min, then sprint for 1 min, repeat. I'd do that for 10-20 minutes. That helped a lot. Also I stopped all the protein shakes except for just one after workout.

I've heard the expression "abs are made in the kitchen" from a dude who is in his 40s or 50s and jacked. It's really quite true. Eating properly will get you looking fit, then adding the weight lifting, stomach work and cardio on top just cuts you up. I recently started going to the gym again and I am looking nice after a workout.

The key is really figuring out when to eat, how much to eat and when not to eat.

I got the info on what to eat from like 4 websites. I will give you the links tomorrow. I basically listened to what it said for all meals: no added sugars, preservatives etc. for ex, if you eat yogurt, add your own fruit and buy all natural 0% fat yogurt.
- Lean meats - chicken, turkey, beef, fish (i eat salmon and tuna)
- Raw fruits and vegetables
- Nuts
- Lots of water
- Fish oils with each meal
- If you're going to eat dairy, eat low fat dairy
- Eggs are great - the bullshit about the yolk being high in cholesterol is bullshit. It's good cholesterol. I eat two eggs every morning. I am lean as fuck. You can research for yourself but all the information I've found states that eating whole eggs is fine. No sense just eating the whites.
- Avoid processed foods, including lunch meats. Avoid things with added sugars, preservatives. Read the labels. The less ingredients, the better. Shit you can't pronounce as ingredients, avoid.
- Avoid bread and wheat. Oatmeal is cool though. Bigger oats = better.

When I was cycling 50 km 2-4 days a week I was looking cut as fuck. You can see how I looked in the picture from Dec. 2011. I have even more definition in my stomach now. Once I start doing ab exercises and lifting heavier, I suspect I will be cut up very nicely. My approach for lifting will be very different now. Before I would just gorge myself with food and lift each day but I wasn't able to keep up with all the calories I was taking it, yet I still would lose size rapidly if I missed a couple workouts.

The beauty with eating right is I've maybe worked out between 5-10 times since early December and the whole time I've looked like a jeans model (from the neck down).

To be fair, I am naturally lean (lean-kinda fat body type). I can easily lose weight. I have small bones and I am 6 feet tall, so I am not stocky and put on weight easily. But I've never really had abs like I do now.

I was 16.9% body fat, 181 lbs Oct 2012. On Jan 31, 2013 I was 14.3% body fat, 166 lbs. Of that 15 lbs lost, 7.2lbs was fat. Not too bad considering that was 80% due to diet alone.

I believe I'd need supplements (legal or otherwise) to get below 13-14% body fat.

I'll get you those links soon.
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Awesome, I'll look for those links:)
 
MikeShlort;535285 said:
Thanks for the props guys.

I couldn't fucking sleep and that R3dd1t page powersnake posted in another thread was aimed at my head worse than a crack relapse so I just jerked off to it. Fuck. So much for being able to stay hard in missionary for another month at least.

The good news is I am definitely 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL when I'm fully aroused.

Thurs Feb 28:

3 sets BTC

3-3.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

3 sets BTC
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Nice, is that a gain?
 
 
MikeShlort;535344 said:
Maybe. Or maybe I was really horny over those hot young sluts. I badly need to find some like that, before it's too late....
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It'll never be to late.

There will always be hot young sluts. And thank God for that!

Cultivate abundance. They are everywhere.
 
Powersnake12;535361 said:
It'll never be to late.

There will always be hot young sluts. And thank God for that!

Cultivate abundance. They are everywhere.
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It seems impossible to get a foot in the door if you aren't part of their social circle. The hot ones are always the intelligent ones who go to university. They stick to their social circles and shun guys who are older and less educated. I am pursuing a career in a trade and I just don't see how I will come in contact with the type of girls I am attracted to. The ones at my current work judge me because I am older and did not go to university.

Not only that, it is a social stigma to be in your mid-late 20s and be going to the bars that the university crowd goes to. Everything is very segregated by age here. They refer to it as "the older crowd" or "the younger crowd". It's a downer because I don't think I will ever be as attracted to women in their 30s as I am to women in their early 20s. Those are the ones I want.

Any thoughts?
 
MikeShlort;535365 said:
It seems impossible to get a foot in the door if you aren't part of their social circle. The hot ones are always the intelligent ones who go to university. They stick to their social circles and shun guys who are older and less educated. I am pursuing a career in a trade and I just don't see how I will come in contact with the type of girls I am attracted to. The ones at my current work judge me because I am older and did not go to university.

Not only that, it is a social stigma to be in your mid-late 20s and be going to the bars that the university crowd goes to. Everything is very segregated by age here. They refer to it as "the older crowd" or "the younger crowd". It's a downer because I don't think I will ever be as attracted to women in their 30s as I am to women in their early 20s. Those are the ones I want.

Any thoughts?
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Not to hijack neo's thread but try this:

http://images.azngamerboi.multiply....oKCC0AAHbfL1o1/The_Venusian_Arts_Handbook.pdf

You might want to not give a fuck about social circles, judgement from females, social stigma, segregation, older vs. younger.

You could work on your attraction. You could work on your seduction skills.

Sooner or later you will walk through the world without apology for being a man, for being Mike and for taking what you want.

Cheers.
 
MikeShlort;535365 said:
It seems impossible to get a foot in the door if you aren't part of their social circle. The hot ones are always the intelligent ones who go to university. They stick to their social circles and shun guys who are older and less educated. I am pursuing a career in a trade and I just don't see how I will come in contact with the type of girls I am attracted to. The ones at my current work judge me because I am older and did not go to university.

Not only that, it is a social stigma to be in your mid-late 20s and be going to the bars that the university crowd goes to. Everything is very segregated by age here. They refer to it as "the older crowd" or "the younger crowd". It's a downer because I don't think I will ever be as attracted to women in their 30s as I am to women in their early 20s. Those are the ones I want.

Any thoughts?
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...have you considered taking some university classes that apply to your career? Seems to me this might be killing two birds with one stone.
 
 
neognostic;535427 said:
...have you considered taking some university classes that apply to your career? Seems to me this might be killing two birds with one stone.
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Trade school is 1) All men, and some lesbians that look like men and..
2) usually a cash grab, or a good option for someone who is 18 years old. I'd spend 2-3 years, 15 grand and come out with no certificate, just something that looks good on a resume and a foot in the door at a company possibly. I believe that can be achieved on my own. I've spoken to many tradesmen and most never went to school before they were hired as an apprentice.
Also, once you're hired on you have to go to trade school for 3 terms, regardless of if you've taken college or not.

Ideally, I would have not been a fucking retard in high school and actually made an effort to figure out what it is I am good at and what careers exist that I could actually do but now I look at university as a big mystery and have no idea what jobs exist or what I could even do. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to handle the workload as well. I never had good study habits.

It would be awesome to go to university but I think I fucked that chance up.
 
hepcat;535437 said:
I found that grazing caused me to gain weight as I find when I eat a large lunch sometimes I can go the rest of the day without eating anything.
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Going a long time without eating is bad. It actually makes you bloated and you look fatter. I've heard many people say they are leaner when they eat frequently myself included. I have abs after I've eaten a good meal but look puffy when I haven't eaten for 5 hours.

On the other hand, you should not be constantly eating. Ideally, you want to eat a good meal (that contains all the things in those links) then not have to eat again until you are hungry (hopefully in around 3 hours). I find snacking makes me look bloated as well, whereas eating a nice meal, then not eating again until I'm hunger (3-4 hours later), then eating another nice meal keeps me looking cut.

You know you are on the right track when you start to have bowel movements after a meal or before you are about to eat another meal. Ideally, (for me), I want to wake up, bang out a huge deuce, eat a big breakfast (never eating past the feeling of full), eat another nice meal in about 3-4 hours when I'm hungry again, and then bang out another deuce shortly after that. I heard somewhere if you're healthy, you should shit after each meal (and if you're eating right). Sounds about right for me.

So you don't want to go hungry but grazing is bullshit too. Just eat, work, get hungry, then eat. The best time (for me) to work out is over an hour after I've eaten. I don't feel like I've just eaten, but I'm not really hungry. The food is digested, I'm running free of anything moving around in my stomach. I usually have full strength at this point (I find digesting while working out takes away from your power and digesting makes you tired in general) and I look cut, so I am adding to that.

I'd say the hardest part of it is figuring out when to eat and when not to eat rather than waht to eat. But each are equally important I'd say. When to work out is key too. Guys stuff themselves then hit the gym. Fuck that.
 
hepcat;535447 said:
I find that no matter what or when I eat I always look the same. The only thing that makes me look thinner is eating as little as possible, which includes skipping meals. I'm not saying I'm Mr. Fit because I'm far from it. I'm pretty lean but can't seem to get rid of my gut (shitty family genetics). It drives me crazy. I'm not fat but more skinny fat if you will. Basically, it looks like I've got a beer gut. Even when I lose weight I have the same figure just a smaller version of it. Oh yeah, fucking cock sluts!
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Guess you need to start doing some hardcore interval training then
 
Half an hour, walking for 1 min, sprinting for 1 min on a treadmill. Start at 5 min, work your way up each day. Google it, I'm don't know much about it.
 
hepcat;535521 said:
I forgot to mention my gut started when I began taking psych meds, before that I was just skinny. The cocktail of meds is up to 7 different types. It makes me feel hopeless about being able to get rid of it. I hope your interval training suggestion can make a dent. I don't want to stop taking my meds cause they help, but looking out of shape even though I eat good and go to the gym makes me depressed. Ah, the ebb and flow.
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Also look into Fartlek training. It's like interval training but rather than sticking to sprinting for a minute and then walking for a minute et cetera, you go at your own pace. So jogging for a few minutes, sprinting, walking. May be easier to start off with.
 
Maybe your psych meds fuck with your testosterone. Estrogen production leads to fat gaining, being fat leads to more estrogen production.. Try finding a doctor who isn't just a drug pusher and see if they have any alternatives for you
 
hepcat;535633 said:
Are you talking about a geneticist or could I just go to my GP?
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I don't know. I wasn't happy with what my doctor was telling me about my penis so I got a second opinion. I didn't like what that asshole told me either so I got a third opinion that differed from the first two. Try talking to as many educated people in that field as you can.
 
hepcat;535521 said:
I forgot to mention my gut started when I began taking psych meds, before that I was just skinny. The cocktail of meds is up to 7 different types. It makes me feel hopeless about being able to get rid of it. I hope your interval training suggestion can make a dent. I don't want to stop taking my meds cause they help, but looking out of shape even though I eat good and go to the gym makes me depressed. Ah, the ebb and flow.
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Have you considered actual psychoanalysis versus traditional talking therapy, etc? I've heard a lot of good things. I've actually been thinking of doing it myself to help work some things out.
 
Mike i've read you say you're a hard gainer several times in this thread, is there anything you can identify as the reason why?
 
I also reside in Canada. Im telling ya man, its fucking impossible to find a viagra or even a cialias. from ineternet to drug dealers i know. lol.
 
insaneone2;535755 said:
I also reside in Canada. Im telling ya man, its fucking impossible to find a viagra or even a cialias. from ineternet to drug dealers i know. lol.
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Reply to me. I make a good salary. I have no reason to fuck you over.
 
Powersnake12;535369 said:
Not to hijack neo's thread but try this:

http://images.azngamerboi.multiply....oKCC0AAHbfL1o1/The_Venusian_Arts_Handbook.pdf

You might want to not give a fuck about social circles, judgement from females, social stigma, segregation, older vs. younger.

You could work on your attraction. You could work on your seduction skills.

Sooner or later you will walk through the world without apology for being a man, for being Mike and for taking what you want.

Cheers.
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This is my thread so not to worry about hijacking.

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the approach I am having trouble wrapping my mind around.

It's the chances to encounter women. In high school, they were there. You know them from school, when you go to parties is when you get the chance to fool around with them. How do you ever get that chance when you are no longer in school and never go to any parties? Girls don't want to be picked up at a bar when they're pushing 30, or if they're young and the guy is in his mid 20s.

I just can't figure out how I would even come into contact with girls. My work is the same thing. The girls are college aged. The only way for me to have a chance with any of them is to go to the parties they go to but I don't get that opportunity.

It seems like it's less about looks and the way you carry yourself and more about social status and having a personality that allows you to be popular and have many acquaintances.

I can't figure out this. I will never have the personality to be popular, and the older I get, the less opportunities I have to have sex with women are. No school, no parties, no friends, no social connection = no women. I can lift weights all I want and make my dick large and look great but that doesn't matter because no girl wants to give it up to a stranger, a nobody. You go to a bar alone, they will immediately ask who you're with. You say you're by yourself, you lose. That's a red flag to them, a turn off. They see you as a loser just trying to pick up and then you lose.

Not sure how I can find a way around it. I always try to figure it out in my head and I always come to the same result - the older I get, the more disconnected from society I get, the less chances to meet females. I really can't see any logical way I'd be able to meet the type of female I'm interested in other than going to college or renting a room with college students and that is too drastic, too pathetic.

Any ideas?
 
hepcat;535651 said:
I do cognitive behavioral therapy. It helps to a degree with depression but more so with my OCD, which is very severe. The behavioral aspect of the treatment is done through Exposure Response Prevention (ERP), where you must confront your issues head on to an extreme. It will cause extreme anxiety but eventually it fades and allows you to overcome said fear, compulsion, or obsessions (or at least it's supposed to). It works to a certain extent, especially when in an inpatient facility, but it is hard to maintain when you're on your own. ERP's for depression are pretty retarded. So I do more talk therapy with my shrink.

Anyway, what is this psycohanalysis treatment you speak of? How is it different than other forms of treatment?
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Since you don't have a wingman can i assume that you're mostly just doing talk therapy? Doesn't that undermine the overall approach? I'm asking because I believe in progress. :s
 
MikeShlort;536251 said:
This is my thread so not to worry about hijacking.

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the approach I am having trouble wrapping my mind around.

It's the chances to encounter women. In high school, they were there. You know them from school, when you go to parties is when you get the chance to fool around with them. How do you ever get that chance when you are no longer in school and never go to any parties? Girls don't want to be picked up at a bar when they're pushing 30, or if they're young and the guy is in his mid 20s.

I just can't figure out how I would even come into contact with girls. My work is the same thing. The girls are college aged. The only way for me to have a chance with any of them is to go to the parties they go to but I don't get that opportunity.

It seems like it's less about looks and the way you carry yourself and more about social status and having a personality that allows you to be popular and have many acquaintances.

I can't figure out this. I will never have the personality to be popular, and the older I get, the less opportunities I have to have sex with women are. No school, no parties, no friends, no social connection = no women. I can lift weights all I want and make my dick large and look great but that doesn't matter because no girl wants to give it up to a stranger, a nobody. You go to a bar alone, they will immediately ask who you're with. You say you're by yourself, you lose. That's a red flag to them, a turn off. They see you as a loser just trying to pick up and then you lose.

Not sure how I can find a way around it. I always try to figure it out in my head and I always come to the same result - the older I get, the more disconnected from society I get, the less chances to meet females. I really can't see any logical way I'd be able to meet the type of female I'm interested in other than going to college or renting a room with college students and that is too drastic, too pathetic.

Any ideas?
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Pulling in bars is really a numbers game, you probably won't be meeting the love of your life hitting on a dozen women a night but you could probably get it done. You could also say 'they had to go'.

My advice is the internet, i'm hopeless at pulling women in bars but put me in a 1 on 1 meet situation and it's all good.
 
Women who internet date aren't attractive to me. That won't work. Unless it's one of those hook up sites, but I don't believe there are any real girls on there. Unless anybody knows of any in North America where there are actually real girls.

I need more ideas guy.

I found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] by searching penis enlargement on google.
 
Awesome progress, man. Im a bodybuilder and have competed many times and have helped quite a few aspiring athletes achieve their goals. If your interested Id be more than willing to help you in your efforts. What are your main goals?
 
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