Mon March 18:

2 sets BTC

Well I let my ligs heal up so now I am basically starting over again. Bet I even lost some length. But what can you do when your back is fucked, you're sick and keep having to work extra shifts all at once? Eat dick, is what. Hey shit eating cement lifter, I suck life's dick everyday too! Really makes me feel proud of myself, can see why you would gloat over a thing like that. You're definitely not retarded and I respect your ability to adequately memorize scales in 14 years.
 
MikeShlort;539269 said:
Mon March 18:

2 sets BTC

Well I let my ligs heal up so now I am basically starting over again. Bet I even lost some length. But what can you do when your back is fucked, you're sick and keep having to work extra shifts all at once? Eat dick, is what. Hey shit eating cement lifter, I suck life's dick everyday too! Really makes me feel proud of myself, can see why you would gloat over a thing like that. You're definitely not retarded and I respect your ability to adequately memorize scales in 14 years.

You've not got to start all over again buddy. I highly doubt months of work goes down the pan when you miss a few days of hanging. Otherwise nobody would have made any gains. Life gets in the way. Nobody on here has done penis enlargement every single day since they started and not missed one workout. Life happens. You just have to keep plugging away man.
 
Thanks. What I really meant is I have to start over again at 8.5lbs. I was hoping to move up in weight this week, but I will have to finish this week off at 8.5lbs and also do next week at 8.5lbs.

Tues March 19:

3 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq
 
Medicating;539285 said:
I highly doubt months of work goes down the pan when you miss a few days of hanging. Otherwise nobody would have made any gains.

True. It does suck to miss some training as it throws me off of momentum and I too sometimes fear I may have lost some of what I gained because I missed a number of days. SOmetimes you do lose temporary gains but never permanent and the temp gains lost are quickly recovered once the routine is started again regularly.
 
Yes. The annoying part is my ligs have healed and I am no longer feeling fatigue. Very annoying. Basically will be put a week behind schedule from missing a couple days.
 
So, I have altered my hanging significantly due to back problems.

Hanging BTC in a computer chair with your feet up on a higher surface gives the perfect angle for BTC ligament stretch. But it destroys your back. Maybe if I had started with a pillow under my back it wouldn't have caused so much damage, but I still think having your neck bent and just being in that position for 3 hours a day is bad, pillow or not.

So I have created a revised BTC hanging position.

Before: Slouched over in computer chair, feet up on bed (bed is higher up than computer chair)

Now: Lying flat on bed (sideways). Ass is hanging over edge of bed, feet up on a wooden box (about a foot shorter than bed). Ideally, I'd like to have something that is taller than my bed to put my feet up on, but I don't have anything. So this will have to do.

The new position gives on okay stretch, not as great as the position before, but since it is at a slightly different angle, it will be targeting slightly differently, and the fatigue will not be felt for awhile. I have to work the new angle before I can feel fatigue.

Also, I will be doing a lot of SD standing. Probably more SD standing than BTC. Ideally, I would have all my sets BTC, but frankly, I am fucking sick of Penis Enlargement consuming my free time. I can do more things SD standing - lying on back BTC, all I can do is read.

I'm not going to bother keeping track of how many BTC and how many SD standing sets I did each day - I will just record the number of sets. While it is significant, I don't care enough to remember all that. Just assume that I am splitting it 70/30, the former being SD standing.

I notice a decent stretch anyways with SD standing, and as I said, I can actually work on something while I am hanging so it will allow for longevity of hanging, even if the results may be a bit slower than proper BTC hanging. But to give myself lifetime back problems for an extra inch of dick when I already have a nice sized dick would be pretty foolish. Hopefully the damage I have already done to my back will go away with proper treatment.

I will be starting testicle massages as well. And kegels next week. Going for 7.75x6.25. Currently 7.25x5.75.
 
How long do you plan on hanging? Ive always been curious about hanging. It always seemed to have a conflicting audience but usually agreed that it was great for length. Have you noticed any length gains as of yet?
 
88man;540008 said:
How long do you plan on hanging? Ive always been curious about hanging. It always seemed to have a conflicting audience but usually agreed that it was great for length. Have you noticed any length gains as of yet?

I am hanging until I have a solid 7.75" NBPenis EnlargementL.

Hanging is the greatest and only worthwhile exercise for length, in my opinion.

I was stuck at 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL for a year. I measured over 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL the other day and it wasn't even a perfect boner. I've been hanging since November. The first month and a half was skin stretch/getting used attachment point pain. Then I took a month off of hanging for gains to just hang for cementing because I figured my size was long enough (due to not being able to get my dick all the way into a girl). I've been back at hanging for gains for a bit over a month I believe.

So out of 5 months, I've only hung for about 2.5 of them for gains at a proper weight. Close to half an inch in 2.5 months is extremely efficient gaining.

There is no device, no exercise etc better for length gaining. You just have to do it right. And it is very time consuming, can be painful as well. Takes up at least 3 hours of my day, Hanging less than 6 sets/day is no recommended. It's a serious man's practice.
 
Mon March 25:

1 set BTC
10 min vaseline jelq

Gym

5 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq

I was experiencing a great deal of pain from my hanger. Today I narrowed the bottom gap a bit (more of a toe-in setting) and the pain decreased significantly. So if any hangers are finding their Bib hangers are causing them lots of attachment pain, try more of a toe in setting.
 
Tue March 26:

Sigh. All was going great. I hit the gym hard. I got my sets in. I was feeling fly. Then I had to jerk off to adult entertainment 4 times in a 3 hour span. I read that masturbating depletes all the vitamins in your body etc. etc. Sex with a female is different because her acids and stuff neutralize this effect and you don't lose all that zinc, which creates testosterone. In short, I just fucked myself... literally. Will be weak for a few days, smaller penis, less testosterone production since nuts are worrying about making semen, probably will gain a bit of fat since fat is directly linked to estrogen. What a bad state of affairs. All because I wanted to jerk off once.

I've quit everything from freebase to junk food, but I can't seem to knock off masturbating. I'll be fine for a couple weeks then go on a serial jerking spree.

I need your help. Keep on my ass. I don't ever want to jerk off again. Seriously. I read it can lead to back problems, thinner hair etc. Things that I am trying to fix as of right now. And it hurts my efforts in the gym.

The good news is I just measured 7" NBPenis EnlargementL after ejaculating, which was almost immediately after hanging 2 sets. I wasn't close to 100% when I measured, but still was rocking the length I had when I was 100% 5 months ago. I can see how my 100% could be close to 7.5".

I just need to keep hanging sets, jelqing, taking supplements, hitting the gym and eating right. Luckily I figured out to toe in my hanger settings (probably because I was calm from jerking it so I was able to step back and fuck with the settings - usually I'm in GO GO GO mode) so now hanging doesn't hurt nearly as much. I will be able to increase in weight!

Keep on my ass guys. I need help knocking off this last addiction. I'm fine for weeks, then all of a sudden I figure it may be a good idea to bang one off real quick to internet sluts then all of a sudden I give even less of a fuck about everything than usual and end up doing fuck all. Wanting to eat ice cream and watch TV. FUCK THAT.

You guys are my witnesses and I need you to lecture me, berate me, call me out, and make sure I am keeping off the internet cock slut channels and keeping my hand off my penis in the opposite direction of a jelq. This has to be the last time I jerk off because I am frustrated when all my efforts are shot out into a sock.

2 sets BTC
10 min jelq

Gym

1 set BTC
Wanked twice
1 set BTC
Wanked once
2 sets BTC
Wanked once

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAAEL_o5Bjc
 
MikeShlort;540285 said:
You guys are my witnesses and I need you to lecture me, berate me, call me out, and make sure I am keeping off the internet cock slut channels and keeping my hand off my penis in the opposite direction of a jelq. This has to be the last time I jerk off because I am frustrated when all my efforts are shot out into a sock.

We share this struggle, believe me Mike! It is a tough thing to manage and keep under discipline. As I told you in another thread, I have done well for up to a week and then fail. As a matter of fact, I failed tonight and I am struggling with that failure. I can get so far and then my mind gets into a lustful mode, kind of a worse place to be then the guilt I feel after. At about 6 days in I start seeing every sexy thing everywhere and it consumes me and really debilitates me. It is worse for me to be suffering with the endless lust then it is to go and indulge and get an emission off. As I say, very tough place to be.

For me, the reasons for my abstinence was for Lent but I started to see that the abstinence was telling me things about myself that I did not realize. I know now that I did put way too much focus on adult entertainment and I was not truly disciplined in my practice of masturbation. I can come up with a million justifications when I get to the point where even watching cartoons starts to bother me! I think what I have found for myself over the past month is you are right when it comes to this topic. I found that abstaining for a week is actually heathy for me, but anymore is too much for my own good. I do not have sex or partners of any kind, so masturbation for me is pretty much the only kind of sexual release I have. Again, another justification but one that I truly need. I hope that I take even more from this abstinence...Easter is Sunday and the Fast is over, but I think I will come back with a little bit more discipline and restraint.

Thanks for all you posting in this topic, you have certainly helped me.
 
Yo Shlort.

What was the thing your doctor prescribed to loosen your tunica? I don't think I wanna fuck with this PABA anymore. Too much possible carcinogen chemicals for my liking.
 
Medicating;540430 said:
Yo Shlort.

What was the thing your doctor prescribed to loosen your tunica? I don't think I wanna fuck with this PABA anymore. Too much possible carcinogen chemicals for my liking.

Topical Verapamil. More expensive though I think.

I wouldn't fuck with half the shit kingsnake is. The furthest I would probably go would be PGE1 + IGF1, the doctor said that is okay. Maybe also the stuff that reduces inflammation, but I'd have to find out about it (TB-500?).

I imagine when I am working girth that PGE1 + pumping and girth work will be enough. I only need about a half inch.
 
doublelongdaddy;540293 said:
We share this struggle, believe me Mike! It is a tough thing to manage and keep under discipline. As I told you in another thread, I have done well for up to a week and then fail. As a matter of fact, I failed tonight and I am struggling with that failure. I can get so far and then my mind gets into a lustful mode, kind of a worse place to be then the guilt I feel after. At about 6 days in I start seeing every sexy thing everywhere and it consumes me and really debilitates me. It is worse for me to be suffering with the endless lust then it is to go and indulge and get an emission off. As I say, very tough place to be.

For me, the reasons for my abstinence was for Lent but I started to see that the abstinence was telling me things about myself that I did not realize. I know now that I did put way too much focus on adult entertainment and I was not truly disciplined in my practice of masturbation. I can come up with a million justifications when I get to the point where even watching cartoons starts to bother me! I think what I have found for myself over the past month is you are right when it comes to this topic. I found that abstaining for a week is actually heathy for me, but anymore is too much for my own good. I do not have sex or partners of any kind, so masturbation for me is pretty much the only kind of sexual release I have. Again, another justification but one that I truly need. I hope that I take even more from this abstinence...Easter is Sunday and the Fast is over, but I think I will come back with a little bit more discipline and restraint.

Thanks for all you posting in this topic, you have certainly helped me.

I'm trying to get strong and also grow my penis so I don't think it will be helpful for me to masturbate at all. I felt sore, as if I had pulled muscles, and weak today, after a good workout yesterday. Not the normal recovery procedure. I will be weaker tomorrow at the gym than I was on Tuesday. I don't need that backwards slide. So I'm just going to ditch it.

Ideally, I'd have a girl around for that release, but the sex needs to be unprotected to reap the benefits of her vagina and I don't want to be paying some lazy slob for the next 18 years so I will just have to refrain from touching myself in a way that upsets Jesus Christ.
 
I just realized I keep putting BTC after each set. I haven't done much BTC in a week. Hurts my back too much. All sets are SDS (Straight Down Standing) unless otherwise specified.
 
MikeShlort;540648 said:
You guys think 19 year old girls at the bar would fuck a 28 year old or would they just be put off that he is so much older hanging out at young people's bars?

Women like older guys, get them fucked.
 
MikeShlort;540648 said:
You guys think 19 year old girls at the bar would fuck a 28 year old or would they just be put off that he is so much older hanging out at young people's bars?

best age to fuck young woman. let them talk. they love showing off to their girl friends with an older guy.
 
I just measured today. I measured 7.25". It wasn't quite 100%, but 100% is going to be a rare occurrence. So we'll say 7.25". 0.35" NBPenis EnlargementL gain since Nov. 1, 2012. Slow gainer, lol. I put fucking hours into this shit..

At least it's gaining. Next week I will move up in weight by 0.5lbs. from 8.5lbs to 9lbs.
 
MikeShlort;540697 said:
I just measured today. I measured 7.25". It wasn't quite 100%, but 100% is going to be a rare occurrence. So we'll say 7.25". 0.35" NBPenis EnlargementL gain since Nov. 1, 2012. Slow gainer, lol. I put fucking hours into this shit..

At least it's gaining. Next week I will move up in weight by 0.5lbs. from 8.5lbs to 9lbs.

Yay for you! I am so happy to hear that you have gained!
 
Thurs March 28:

1 set SDS
10 min vaseline jelq
5 sets SDS
10 min vaseline jelq

Fri March 29:

3 sets SDS
18 min vaseline jelq
3 sets SDS
18 min vaseline jelq

I could feel my cock stretching as I jelqed after the last 3 SDS sets. Although my skin is kinda scabbing up from the hanger pinching and my penis hurts from the wear and tear, I can feel it growing and stretching and breaking down and reforming into a long, thick, vascular porkstick.
Also, ROP seems to be working at night.

I am in the beginnings of a physical overhaul. In the next month, there should be drastic changes. This is a good starting point. We'll see where I am at April 29th, but as it stands today, I am 7.25"x5.75" and physically I am about a 2 on a scale of 10 of where I'd like to be. I anticipate being closer to 7.5" and 4 come April 29th.

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5YOp2EHOJE
 
Good to hear, man. It's rather exhilarating when you can actually see and feel changes. What is your ultimate goal as far as length goes?
 
88man;540796 said:
Good to hear, man. It's rather exhilarating when you can actually see and feel changes. What is your ultimate goal as far as length goes?

I don't know. It was 9"NBPenis EnlargementL. That seems kind of excessive.

The more inadequate I feel as a human, the larger I want my penis to be. For a brief period, I was okay with my current size (7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL). But now I think I am shooting for 7.75" NBPenis EnlargementL - 8" NBPenis EnlargementL.

I really would like it to be just a bit longer before I add girth to it. It's big as is, but it can be bigger. Adding girth now will just make it look shorter, so I need to add another half inch - 3/4" of length to balance it out.

I'm really just doing this so I can have the personal victory of changing something I was unhappy about through methods that are contrary to popular belief. Chances are I will never use it on the kind of female I desire, or at least not for a long time from now. But to have it is the goal.
 
Congrats on the half inch and keep it going man. I ended up ordering the Bib Starter yesterday, and since it apparently ships out of Texas, and that's where I live, I hope to have it soon. I have an old 300 weight set in my garage that basically has every possible weight I could want to hang with, so I'm set in that regard too. A lot of what you have said resonates with me, so I have decided to focus solely on length by hanging until I get to my goal (something in the 9-10 range). I began using a cable clamp a while back and got amazing temporary gains that lasted for a while, but then it became impossible to do my manual stretches.

I know you mentioned only doing length, and I know you do a bit of light jelqing, but do you think jelqing in conjunction with hanging can help length grow faster? I've really fallen off my Penis Enlargement, but from what I can remember manual stretching did absolutely nothing for me when I was doing it (although I only did it for a short period a couple of times and stopped). However, when I used to jelq with vaseline and manual stretch I believe I began to notice length changes. What do you think?
 
boohoohoo;540949 said:
Congrats on the half inch and keep it going man. I ended up ordering the Bib Starter yesterday, and since it apparently ships out of Texas, and that's where I live, I hope to have it soon. I have an old 300 weight set in my garage that basically has every possible weight I could want to hang with, so I'm set in that regard too. A lot of what you have said resonates with me, so I have decided to focus solely on length by hanging until I get to my goal (something in the 9-10 range). I began using a cable clamp a while back and got amazing temporary gains that lasted for a while, but then it became impossible to do my manual stretches.

I know you mentioned only doing length, and I know you do a bit of light jelqing, but do you think jelqing in conjunction with hanging can help length grow faster? I've really fallen off my Penis Enlargement, but from what I can remember manual stretching did absolutely nothing for me when I was doing it (although I only did it for a short period a couple of times and stopped). However, when I used to jelq with vaseline and manual stretch I believe I began to notice length changes. What do you think?

My light jelqing has gradually turned into harder jelqing. I like to jelq for 20 minutes after my last set of the day. I usually do 1-3 sets in the morning, jelq for 10 min, then the remainder of the sets in the evening and jelq for 20 min.

Just last night and the night before, I was jelqing relatively hard and I was noticing how after all the stress from the hanger and weight, my dick was really broken down and it hurt to jelq but felt good at the same time. It really felt like it was stretching my penis even more after all the micro tears had been done from hanging.

I was jelqing in a way that it was like I was pulling my dick up to my face, instead of jelqing for girth. If that makes any sense. I had in mind that I am jelqing for length and the hand motion complied.

I really can see now how jelqing for an hour after a 3-5 hour PGE1 erection can lead to gains. This is what Ronielle did, the amateur chemical Penis Enlargement pioneer. I am definitely keeping jelqing in my hanging routine and I will only increase in intensity and time, if time allows.

I also can't wait to start the PGE1 process once I reach 8"NBPenis EnlargementL. I imagine I will gain a bit of extra length by doing the jelqing after the PGE1 erection subsides.

I could really see new veins (small ones) and my penis looks like a beast. Just a smaller version of a beast. And it gets hard as fuck. Penis Enlargement is definitely amazing. The fact that it can be this hard in a broken down state is amazing. And when I think about it, after all the bullshit I do to my dick and it's still able to perform in my hand, I can imagine how much rage and aggression it's going to have when it gets to perform in the vagina of a hot woman. Coupled with the workouts I do (body), I would theoretically be an intense lover. I'm just missing the hot sluts and the practice to get the moves down! All in time.

So, yeah, to answer your question. Jelqing is amazing. But start off very light. I've been hanging since Oct 31, 2012. Like every day. I just started jelqing a bit harder. And before, when I went a bit too hard, I'd wake up with light bruising and sore spots on my dick. So take it slow and "listen to your penis", as they say.

Also, be prepared for some frustration and pain with hanging. It's a steep learning curve. It took me well over a month and a half to start hanging for gains. And it's still painful as fuck (mostly because I've switched angle of attack suddenly). I currently have a scab on my shaft where the hanger attaches. The nice part about the jelqing is the vaseline leaves the skin moisturized, so that's cool.

Just take it really slow. I'm not rushing things at all. I realize this is a slow process, like a ship towing a glacier. It's more of a thing I just do every day rather than do every day thinking "okay, I will measure again in a week because there should be gains". I've done maybe 5 actual measures since I've started. My last measure was last night, to some very hot adult entertainment, so I was 100%. I was 7.4"NBPenis EnlargementL, very close to 7.5". But I'm still going to classify it as 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL because 1) you need to be with a really hot chick to get to 100%, and 2) that initial 100% doesn't stay 100% as you start to use it. It diminishes to 90%-95%. So if my 90%-95% is 7.25"NBPenis EnlargementL, that's pretty good.

The 8"NBPenis EnlargementL goal is for a measure of 100%.

Sat March 30:

3 sets SDS
15-20 min jelqing vaseline
15 min edging (couldn't help myself, fucking kinsey and his ridiculous links documenting black penis size in sluts)
3 sets SDS
20 min vaseline jelq
 
Nice man. I've read your entire thread and it gives me a lot of hope that you're coming along. Honestly for me if I can get things straightened out I start law school in September, so I really can't see myself putting in as much time as you do. I was into bodybuilding myself (that's what I call what you do for your body despite what others may call it), and I got amazing results. Like a bunch of hot women would drool over me. Recently though I switched to boxing, and I fucking suck at it. It's a tough choice because it is hard as hell and time consuming and you don't get attention like with bodybuilding, but if I box, go to law school, and Penis Enlargement then wtf else can I possibly do? No time for anything really. Plus I don't see myself spending more than 1 and a half hours MAX on Penis Enlargement a day 7 days a week. I also crave the results, but not at the expense of a normal life.

I have checked out Bib's forum based on your advice and once the device arrives I'll reread some things, but I'm hoping that I can get into a comfortable routine with this before school starts. I'll probably ask you for advice when it arrives. Your thread is great man, keep it up!
 
boohoohoo;540973 said:
Nice man. I've read your entire thread and it gives me a lot of hope that you're coming along. Honestly for me if I can get things straightened out I start law school in September, so I really can't see myself putting in as much time as you do. I was into bodybuilding myself (that's what I call what you do for your body despite what others may call it), and I got amazing results. Like a bunch of hot women would drool over me. Recently though I switched to boxing, and I fucking suck at it. It's a tough choice because it is hard as hell and time consuming and you don't get attention like with bodybuilding, but if I box, go to law school, and Penis Enlargement then wtf else can I possibly do? No time for anything really. Plus I don't see myself spending more than 1 and a half hours MAX on Penis Enlargement a day 7 days a week. I also crave the results, but not at the expense of a normal life.

I have checked out Bib's forum based on your advice and once the device arrives I'll reread some things, but I'm hoping that I can get into a comfortable routine with this before school starts. I'll probably ask you for advice when it arrives. Your thread is great man, keep it up!

What supplements did you use for bodybuilding? (legal or otherwise). I am having trouble. I am quite petite. Look like an underwear model (not bad, but have to be wearing pretty tight clothes to get noticed - not good for work)
 
MikeShlort;540978 said:
What supplements did you use for bodybuilding? (legal or otherwise). I am having trouble. I am quite petite. Look like an underwear model (not bad, but have to be wearing pretty tight clothes to get noticed - not good for work)

Well, let me explain that I have been big on athletics since I was at least 15. I'm talking spending 5 days a week in the gym the WHOLE day over the summer when I was in high school (my dad would drop me off before work and pick me up after/ I mainly played basketball but also ran and lifted weights). Also, my body is built like on the smaller side of really big and the huge side of average. I currently weigh around 250 lbs (6'2''), and although I do have a good amount of fat right now I look muscular and am treated that way.

When I first started body building about three years ago I used Whey Protein, Glutamine, BCAA's (Branch Chain Amino Acids), and Nitric Oxide.

1. Nitric Oxide gives you a huge rush that they say is like cocaine (never used coke). It was recently proven to cause heart attacks and in my case didn't help THAT much and stopped working after around a year. Your body gets used to it and it doesn't have the same effect.

2. Glutamine and BCAA's are supposedly for recovery, but tbh I don't think they do much and are especially not useful for guys who are doing this to look good or recreationally. I only recommend them if you are seriously into strength work, and even then I'm not sure.

3. Whey protein I think is decent. It's protein, which helps you pack on muscle. Apparently whey absorbs into the body faster. I am not so sure about that. If you want buy it in 10 lbs packets. If not just drink milk and eat meat.

My biggest recommendation for a skinny guy is just drink plenty of milk and eat lots of meat. Preferably eat chicken and fish, but if you are thin you can eat the higher calorie red meats without a worry. Didn't you state in another post you prefer to be more defined than big though? The only way to get a bigger more muscular body, however, despite what you may eat, is to lift more weight. This is not a direct causation, but basically the stronger you get the bigger and/or denser your muscles will become.
 
I want to be strong, cut and as big as I can be without having any extra body fat. Ideally, I'd like to shed another 2% body fat.

My diet is good and my training is okay. I am gradually building up. Once I plateau, I am going to start looking into things like testosterone and peptides.

before I wanted to be huge and I ate all the time. I ended up stronger but with a gut. It looked like shit. So now I am conscious of my stomach. I basically want to be cut as fuck with big muscles. Like everyone wants. Anything to get sluts easier, really. I would never spend money on them, suckhole around douchebags to get in good with a social circle or any of that, so I need to look my best possible self to pull the sluts.

That's all I really want. Used to want a relationship but now I just want to fuck a bunch of hot girls. Relationship seems like a job and women only look at men to see what they can get from them. They look at things like - what will my friends think, will he give me good sex, will he take care of me, what can he do for me, will he entertain me, will he take me out to parties, will he let me live with him rent free, will he give me kids and take care of them, does he have a good career, how big of a house can he afford.... I look at girls and wonder if she's a good person and can I fall in love with her. They don't look at men like this, so I just want to fuck them because my testicles tell me to. Other than that, I have no use.
 
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MikeShlort;540993 said:
I want to be strong, cut and as big as I can be without having any extra body fat. Ideally, I'd like to shed another 2% body fat.

My diet is good and my training is okay. I am gradually building up. Once I plateau, I am going to start looking into things like testosterone and peptides.

before I wanted to be huge and I ate all the time. I ended up stronger but with a gut. It looked like shit. So now I am conscious of my stomach. I basically want to be cut as fuck with big muscles. Like everyone wants. Anything to get sluts easier, really. I would never spend money on them, suckhole around douchebags to get in good with a social circle or any of that, so I need to look my best possible self to pull the sluts.

That's all I really want. Used to want a relationship but now I just want to fuck a bunch of hot girls. Relationship seems like a job and women only look at men to see what they can get from them. They look at things like - what will my friends think, will he give me good sex, will he take care of me, what can he do for me, will he entertain me, will he take me out to parties, will he let me live with him rent free, will he give me kids and take care of them, does he have a good career, how big of a house can he afford.... I look at girls and wonder if she's a good person and can I fall in love with her. They don't look at men like this, so I just want to fuck them because my testicles tell me to. Other than that, I have no use.

Well feel free to do what you want, but honestly I would never inject anything into my body like testosterone. I hate the thought of doing so, especially for something as silly as having a good body. Just continue to lift and your gains will come. It's a process, and there is no miracle cure to having a hot body. How tall are you and how much do you weigh now? I'm trying to get a sense of what you look like.

I, to a large but not complete extent, agree with your views on women. Rocking the hot body definitely helps. I would even go so far as to say if your goal is to sleep with plenty of hot women you would be better invested stopping Penis Enlargement altogether and dedicate more time to working out, getting a better job, and MOST IMPORTANTLY actually going out and meeting women. The big dick issue would really only come into play if you are in one of those social circles you detest, you are in a relationship, or you happen to meet a TRUE whore. When I say true whore I mean she is willing to sleep with you regardless of your dick size and how much she truly likes you because she just likes giving pussy. Guys lie about dick size all the time to women they are just meeting and women know this.

I think I mentioned this before, but the BEST thing you could possibly do if you are interested in having sex with hot women is either one of two things. Either become EXTREMELY famous and/or rich, or develop your woman pulling skills. Now, if you happen to become rich or famous, that will trump anything you could possibly otherwise do. But if not, you need to get out there (and even into those douchebag crowds) and start approaching women.

Honestly I think this self help trend that is going on now is kind of funny. For me it started out with going the PUA route, then getting into bodybuilding, and now Penis Enlargement. I think you seem to be interested in those three also, and you are already into bodybuilding and Penis Enlargement. Now if you want to meet and fuck gorgeous women, you need to get out there ASAP. I don't really suggest you get into the PUA community, but nevertheless you need to actually start approaching women.

BTW. My golden rule for getting good with women is to lower your standards a bit. You don't have to not approach hot women, but get into approaching and hopefully fucking ones that you feel are average. I've read what you wrote about your ex where you would fuck her for a long time and wouldn't cum. TBH that might not have just been a problem of how she looked. Just like dicks are different and give women different pleasure, pussy is the same. Some feel tighter, some get wetter, some taste better, etc. The best pussy (and I mean literally the actual vagina) I have ever had was on the ugliest woman I was with. With one of the hottest ones I would easily fuck for twenty minutes and just stop. With the ugly one I got like 5 thrusts in and came all over her car.

So my point is you need to get out there if you want to fuck hot women.
 
I'm 6 ft tall and about 160lbs. This is my physique (sorry that my penis is in this picture but these were taken to compare size over time):

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The last one is from a bit over a year ago but that's pretty much how my body looks now, only I have a bit more definition and I am stronger.

I am in the process of getting a better job. And I don't care to spend more than an hour at the gym, 5 days a week max. Shouldn't take more than that to get large, right? As far as the going out more thing, well, as soon as I hit my goals, I will be ruthless (after I gain some confidence from scoring a couple times). But that is all good advice, thanks.

Another question: At what age do girls start to get turned off by men trying to pick them up? I'm 26 now. How much time do I have left until I am forced to "settle down" (more like become neutered and imprisoned). Is that why you are saying get out there ASAP while I still have time left, or just because it's best to start getting laid before I go crazy?

As for the self help trend, well, before all this effort I put in daily, I put a lot of effort in to destroy myself. So I really have no choice but to compete or just implode. That's why I feel behind the average guy my age. I have shit to learn that I should have known at age 18. Like how to pick up a bitch and get her friends too.


Sun March 31:

Testicle Health massage - have been doing that all week

1.5 hour jog (took a wrong turn)

6 sets SDS - hurt like fucking hell by the end - penis is broken down
20 min vaseline jelq
 
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MikeShlort;541016 said:
I'm 6 ft tall and about 160lbs. This is my physique (sorry that my penis is in this picture but these were taken to compare size over time):

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The last one is from a bit over a year ago but that's pretty much how my body looks now, only I have a bit more definition and I am stronger.

I am in the process of getting a better job. And I don't care to spend more than an hour at the gym, 5 days a week max. Shouldn't take more than that to get large, right? As far as the going out more thing, well, as soon as I hit my goals, I will be ruthless (after I gain some confidence from scoring a couple times). But that is all good advice, thanks.

Another question: At what age do girls start to get turned off by men trying to pick them up? I'm 26 now. How much time do I have left until I am forced to "settle down" (more like become neutered and imprisoned). Is that why you are saying get out there ASAP while I still have time left, or just because it's best to start getting laid before I go crazy?

As for the self help trend, well, before all this effort I put in daily, I put a lot of effort in to destroy myself. So I really have no choice but to compete or just implode. That's why I feel behind the average guy my age. I have shit to learn that I should have known at age 18. Like how to pick up a bitch and get her friends too.

Okay, so first off this is the first time I have seen your pics. Dude, maybe it is because of your body size being relatively small compared to me, but your cock looks great (no homo I'm not bi or gay). From the looks of it your are one of those guys that will have the "he has a huge dick" thing going for you. I say that also because your are basically 7.5 long, which in most women's eyes will be 8. I'm only right around 7 BPenis EnlargementL with a big body, so my cock doesn't stand out nearly as much.

As far as waiting to hit your goals or looking at your age to dictate when you will start getting with women, those two are not that important. First off, when I used to be totally obsessed with bodybuilding (like I'm talking seven days a week even when I'm sick and only off when I absolutely HAVE to) I got attention from women. Now that I still workout but don't look as good as back then I get MORE female attention and have gotten laid more. The difference is just that I have more experience under my belt. The single biggest way (again aside from being rich and/or famous, and I don't mean having a good job I mean being RICCCHHHH) to get women is not about your body or your age (unless you are too young), it is about knowing how to get them. This is coming from my personal experience over years (I'm about your same age, turning 25 in a few months), but a hot body is just another plus, albeit a relatively big one.

Also, your age is actually in your favor. They say men are like wine, and women are like milk. Men only get better with age (to a certain limit like say your late 40's or 50's), and women get worse off (although I disagree with that personally). The single biggest turn on for women overall aside from a rich or famous guy is an EXPenis EnlargementRIENCED guy. Most people use the term "dominant" to say what I personally mean is essentially experienced. This experience generally comes in one of two ways. As you get older you learn more about life in general and this allows you to deal differently with people than you previously did. Second, I mean actually having experience dating and fucking women. Both of these put you in a much better position to get more women. It's like a cycle. The more you get, the better you become, and the more you get again. THAT'S why I say get out there and get after them. Also, in terms of you settling down that is entirely up to you. Personally I think a guy has time to wait to settle down until around 40 or so. Now there are advantages and disadvantages to waiting that long or never settling down, but its not a big deal to be 65 when your first child is 25.

About your body, it looks good in my opinion, but I can see how it wouldn't stand out too much. I say that especially since you are a white Canadian guy and I assume like 70% of guys in your city have a build similar to yours. I'd say you could stand to gain 20 lbs of muscle, and you would look fucking sexy if you did so. Now, don't rush that shit. Just continue to eat and lift hard and slowly build up to that. I'm talking set your goal to be a cut 180 lbs. by around the time you are 30.
 
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I hear you about taking it slow. I gorged myself with food just so I could get big, I got to 190lbs and this is how I looked:

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I was lifting 5 days a week, in the gym for 1.5-2 hours each time, and I was much stronger, but I looked fat. No definition, unless I had just worked out and had a pump. So I see what you mean about taking it slow and it could take 4 years to properly gain 20 lbs of muscle without adding any body fat.

Sounds good to me, Thanks dude.
 
Excellent penis pictures Mike! Your body looks excellent too
 
Sun April 1:

Only 1 set SDS. Have a fucking open wound on my dick that hurts like fuck. Tired of 3 hours of pain a night. Need a night off. Dick hurts. Did one set, took off under wrap, scab came off with it for the 7th day in a row. Enough is enough. Just getting sick of it. What a demanding fucking routine. Tomorrow I'll have to hang 6, no matter what. But not today.
 
MikeShlort;541230 said:
Sun April 1:

Only 1 set SDS. Have a fucking open wound on my dick that hurts like fuck. Tired of 3 hours of pain a night. Need a night off. Dick hurts. Did one set, took off under wrap, scab came off with it for the 7th day in a row. Enough is enough. Just getting sick of it. What a demanding fucking routine. Tomorrow I'll have to hang 6, no matter what. But not today.

What is the cut from buddy?
 
Hey Mike I got a question. Sorry to have to ask you, but I just tried to make an account on Bib's site and it won't fucking let me. Wtf? I wante to ask Bib if my order went through since I did complete the payment on PayPal and how long it would take. Do you know how long it takes and if I should have received something else confirming my payment? Like I got one e-mail from Bib that said they got the order and a paypal email would come. Then I got a bunch of emails from paypal and paid. On Bib's site I remember it said something about printing out a certain page and mailing it in UNLESS you pay by credit card (which is what I did except that it was debit).

Do you think my order was filled and it is on the way? Sorry to ask you but like I said I can't create an account on Bib's site for some fucking reason.
 
Medicating;541238 said:
What is the cut from buddy?

Just from the hanger. Guess I had dry skin coupled with the rubbing of the hanger and stretching of the skin. The skin cracked, started to heal, then each day got worse as I kept ripping the scab off with the under wrap.

I like to put vaseline on my shaft before hanging my sets so the skin won't crack when it's stretched, but of course vaseline makes it so the tape doesn't hold... and lotion gives me a rash because there is so much shit in it, it actually dries my skin out more than it keeps it moisturized.

Maybe I will start bringing up a wet cloth and dry towel so I can wipe my hands before I touch the tape. The issue is if I apply vaseline on my shaft to prevent skin cracking, then each time I take off my underwrap and re-wrap, I am touching my vaseline covered shaft, which of course eats away at the adhesive on the tape.

Another idea could be to not take my wrap off, but I like to massage my penis and eat it up between sets. I think I'll try the cloth.
 
boohoohoo;541242 said:
Hey Mike I got a question. Sorry to have to ask you, but I just tried to make an account on Bib's site and it won't fucking let me. Wtf? I wante to ask Bib if my order went through since I did complete the payment on PayPal and how long it would take. Do you know how long it takes and if I should have received something else confirming my payment? Like I got one e-mail from Bib that said they got the order and a paypal email would come. Then I got a bunch of emails from paypal and paid. On Bib's site I remember it said something about printing out a certain page and mailing it in UNLESS you pay by credit card (which is what I did except that it was debit).

Do you think my order was filled and it is on the way? Sorry to ask you but like I said I can't create an account on Bib's site for some fucking reason.

That's strange. Maybe you just have to wait for him to manually okay your account on his forum. I think that may be the case.

As for the confirmation, I seem to recall getting an instructional email (how to progress in sets and weight) after the order was confirmed. It took about 1.5-2 weeks to get to me (Canada) once I paid for it.

Check your spam folders and email again in a couple days. You should have gotten an email that tells you how to hang properly.

Also wait a couple days for Bib to confirm your registration to his forum.

If all else fails in a couple days, you can always email him. I'm pretty sure his email is given at his site, but if not, ask me again in a PM and I'll give you it.

He's an honest guy so I wouldn't worry about being ripped off. He answers my questions on his forum daily.
 
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