I've added extending back to my routine, and I must say it is a great addition to hanging. I've just done 1 hour/day but it seems to help get my penis into that good flaccid state for stretching for length. The jelly state minus the engorgement. Thin, no excess blood in the chambers whatsoever, pliable, etc etc.

Wednesday Jan 23:

1 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

6 sets BTC
15 min jelq - flaccid

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sedrRo6YeW4
 
Medicating;529064 said:
I think I'll stick to my normal lube.

Hey what weights are you using for your bib hanger. 1lb weights seem quite hard to find here. I want like a 3lb and a few 1bs so I can slowly go up. Just seem a little tricky to track down.

Where's over here? UK or US? US should be able to get them at any wal mart type stores. Fitness supply stores will have weights. THat is where I got my plates. I use the York plates with the hole through the center. Go small weights rather than large ones, as it gives you more clearance for hitting the ground ie - 2x5lbs as opposed to 1x10lbs, or even better, 4x2.5lbs. You can use kettle bells too, they come in different weight amounts, such as 4 lbs etc. You'll want to try to get some 2.5s, a couple 5s, one 10, one or two 1s and that should be enough to move up by 1 lbs or 0.5lbs. If you can find a 3 or 4 lb kettle bell or plate, then get it. Weights are cheap. For this, the smaller the weight (the more compact) the better. Get the iron plates as opposed to the plastic plates with cement inside or the bulkier rubber coated weights with all types of holes in them. Just need a hole through the center.
1lb dumbbells, women use them for jogging and shit. They should have them anywhere they sell workout stuff for women.
 
MikeShlort;529082 said:
Where's over here? UK or US? US should be able to get them at any wal mart type stores. Fitness supply stores will have weights. THat is where I got my plates. I use the York plates with the hole through the center. Go small weights rather than large ones, as it gives you more clearance for hitting the ground ie - 2x5lbs as opposed to 1x10lbs, or even better, 4x2.5lbs. You can use kettle bells too, they come in different weight amounts, such as 4 lbs etc. You'll want to try to get some 2.5s, a couple 5s, one 10, one or two 1s and that should be enough to move up by 1 lbs or 0.5lbs. If you can find a 3 or 4 lb kettle bell or plate, then get it. Weights are cheap. For this, the smaller the weight (the more compact) the better. Get the iron plates as opposed to the plastic plates with cement inside or the bulkier rubber coated weights with all types of holes in them. Just need a hole through the center.
1lb dumbbells, women use them for jogging and shit. They should have them anywhere they sell workout stuff for women.

Cheers buddy. I'll order it today and probably pick up the weights next weekend. Do you just use like a nylon cord?

Also, did you do all the palp tests?
 
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Medicating;529173 said:
Cheers buddy. I'll order it today and probably pick up the weights next weekend. Do you just use like a nylon cord?

Also, did you do all the palp tests?

I use a polypropylene rope, which I have to use a bowline knot to tie it, otherwise it'll just slip through because it is so slippery.

I did the LOT test and sent bib my mirror test shots. He determined I have a medium-high to high skin exit point, so I "should have a couple inches of inner penis to pull out and down".

My LOT is around 6 (it seems to have raised since hanging, which doesn't make too much sense, since I've been hanging BTC).

I don't put much stock into the LOT test - and Bib agrees that skin exit point (mirror test shots) overrides the LOT test results.

He states palpitation test overrides them both and is the most accurate measure of how much internal penis you have to pull out. I can not figure out what I am feeling around for so I disregarded the palp test.

Keep in mind these 3 tests are to determine how much can be gained from ligament stretch (low angle hanging). They do not indicate how much potential for tunica stretch you have.

Also keep in mind that ligament stretch much be done first, but you will always be deforming the tunica at any angle. It's just once your ligaments are fully stretched, then tunica targeting will be fully effective.

I plan to start hanging at higher angles, even though my ligaments aren't fully stretched, mainly because I don't want to increase my penis size too much for now, but I want to store away possible ligament gains for the future.

I want to work girth soon, and working girth can hinder your tunica stretch potential, so I am getting tunica stretch gains out of the way, working girth, then resuming ligament targeting (if I choose to want more length) since it does not matter how much girth you have or how tough your tunica is when you are hanging at low angles - you ligaments will deform regardless of your tunica situation.

So don't look at my thread in the future and see my hanging 2 sets BTC for cementing and 4-6 sets at high angles and try to emulate me. You need to hang just 6-8 straight BTC sets/day until you have maxed out your lig gains, which could take years (If you are gunning for that 9"). I recommend 8 sets/day, but you need to work up to that each week.

Start at 4 sets, start at very low weight, and as you learn how to wrap, attach the hanger and position yourself in BTC, you will be very slowly advancing in weight.

You may even need to take 1-2 weeks of dedicated skin stretch before you can start to hang BTC for lig gains. I had to take 9 days.

It took me over a month to learn proper attachment technique. I am still refining it. It's a tough thing to master, and it takes lots of time and research, but the rewards are great. I was stuck a 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL for almost a year, after 2.5 months of hanging (at very low weight) I am now 7.15" NBPenis EnlargementL. Fuck ya.
 
MikeShlort;529193 said:
I use a polypropylene rope, which I have to use a bowline knot to tie it, otherwise it'll just slip through because it is so slippery.

I did the LOT test and sent bib my mirror test shots. He determined I have a medium-high to high skin exit point, so I "should have a couple inches of inner penis to pull out and down".

My LOT is around 6 (it seems to have raised since hanging, which doesn't make too much sense, since I've been hanging BTC).

I don't put much stock into the LOT test - and Bib agrees that skin exit point (mirror test shots) overrides the LOT test results.

He states palpitation test overrides them both and is the most accurate measure of how much internal penis you have to pull out. I can not figure out what I am feeling around for so I disregarded the palp test.

Keep in mind these 3 tests are to determine how much can be gained from ligament stretch (low angle hanging). They do not indicate how much potential for tunica stretch you have.

Also keep in mind that ligament stretch much be done first, but you will always be deforming the tunica at any angle. It's just once your ligaments are fully stretched, then tunica targeting will be fully effective.

I plan to start hanging at higher angles, even though my ligaments aren't fully stretched, mainly because I don't want to increase my penis size too much for now, but I want to store away possible ligament gains for the future.

I want to work girth soon, and working girth can hinder your tunica stretch potential, so I am getting tunica stretch gains out of the way, working girth, then resuming ligament targeting (if I choose to want more length) since it does not matter how much girth you have or how tough your tunica is when you are hanging at low angles - you ligaments will deform regardless of your tunica situation.

So don't look at my thread in the future and see my hanging 2 sets BTC for cementing and 4-6 sets at high angles and try to emulate me. You need to hang just 6-8 straight BTC sets/day until you have maxed out your lig gains, which could take years (If you are gunning for that 9"). I recommend 8 sets/day, but you need to work up to that each week.

Start at 4 sets, start at very low weight, and as you learn how to wrap, attach the hanger and position yourself in BTC, you will be very slowly advancing in weight.

You may even need to take 1-2 weeks of dedicated skin stretch before you can start to hang BTC for lig gains. I had to take 9 days.

It took me over a month to learn proper attachment technique. I am still refining it. It's a tough thing to master, and it takes lots of time and research, but the rewards are great. I was stuck a 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL for almost a year, after 2.5 months of hanging (at very low weight) I am now 7.15" NBPenis EnlargementL. Fuck ya.

Haha. You got me really excited.

It's wise though, storing your lig gains. Hadn't thought of that before. For the skin stretch you spoke about, do you mean like literally stretching skin manually or just hanging downwards to stretch the skin, and I know hanging straight down causes a lot of skin stretch.

Did you get the BIB Hanger or the BIB Starter? I guess the proper BIB Hanger as you want a big girth for those black-white cocksluts?

I couldn't feel my pubic bone either on that palp test but I'm pretty sure I have quite a high exit point in the mirror rest.

Thanks for this though mate, you've been a fountain of knowledge.
 
No, get the bib starter. I got the original bib at first, but it's too big (length wise) and probably too big girth wise.

The only reason to get the original is if you've got a large girth. I'm 5.75" EG and the starter is great. I only used my bib original for skin stretch. If I get up to 6.5" EG, maybe I'll need the original. But I'll try not to use it. Less penis in the hanger seems to be better, in my opinion. More penis being stretched.

Skin stretch is when you attach higher up than normally and looser than normally, so the hanger isn't anchored onto the internals of the penis, but just onto the skin. So it is just pulling all skin. You will notice the hanger slide down past the internals a great deal and you'll see that the skin on your pelvis is being stretched.

So I strongly suggest getting the bib starter. I'm 7.15" NBP x 5.75" MEG and the regular would be too big for me. Plus the starter is cheaper. It's a great hanger. I will admit that things are a bit tight with my girth (Bib could have made the tightening bolt a half inch longer) but it works and the regular would be too big.

So get the starter if you're not much above 6"MEG.
 
It's a starter for me then. So you still hang with it lightly attached, I assume with light weights?

I shall order it now. Just wanted to check what you had as I knew we had about similar girth. I don't wanna get much more than 6 in girth anyway so the BIB Starter is perfect.
 
Medicating;529220 said:
It's a starter for me then. So you still hang with it lightly attached, I assume with light weights?

I shall order it now. Just wanted to check what you had as I knew we had about similar girth. I don't wanna get much more than 6 in girth anyway so the BIB Starter is perfect.

When you're doing skin stretch, you hang a weight that gives you fatigue. You'll feel it in your skin. I used like 8.5 lbs for skin stretch (moving up a lbs each day) I am only at 7.5lbs right now for BTC hanging.
 
MikeShlort;529225 said:
When you're doing skin stretch, you hang a weight that gives you fatigue. You'll feel it in your skin. I used like 8.5 lbs for skin stretch (moving up a lbs each day) I am only at 7.5lbs right now for BTC hanging.

How long are your sets at 7.5 lbs BTC?
 
MikeShlort;529239 said:
All my sets are 20 minutes

I also hung BTC for skin stretch, forgot to mention. When I said BTC, I meant BTC for ligament gain.

Okay cool. I still need to do more research. Hanger won't be shipped 'til Wednesday and I won't get the weights 'til next weekend so I've got time to do my research. The skin hanging didn't make you all floppy did it?
 
MikeShlort;529239 said:
All my sets are 20 minutes

I also hung BTC for skin stretch, forgot to mention. When I said BTC, I meant BTC for ligament gain.

Skin and ligament stretch is most extreme at BTC. I still use this exercise manually but I never hung this way. I too did 20 minute sets. I have a the new [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] hanger prototype arriving soon, I can't wait to try it. To me, over the past 2 years, BTC has been the endless supply of ligament gain to those seriously practicing.
 
Medicating;529301 said:
Okay cool. I still need to do more research. Hanger won't be shipped 'til Wednesday and I won't get the weights 'til next weekend so I've got time to do my research. The skin hanging didn't make you all floppy did it?

I don't know what you mean. My dick skin was already loose from pumping, it just made it looser, for more room to grow. I like it, makes my flaccid bigger.
Check out post #191-199 of this thread for everything you need to read about hanging to get you started.
 
hepcat;529466 said:
How on earth do you remember what posts said what? That's some serious memory you got there!

It becomes second nature after some time. I can answer the questions with links and never post a work ever! Kind of crzy when you think about it.
 
I repped you for your write up. Very good read. Can't seem to find what a pulse push is though. I know why you do it... but not how you do it.
 
Medicating;529642 said:
I repped you for your write up. Very good read. Can't seem to find what a pulse push is though. I know why you do it... but not how you do it.

It's basically pushing the hanger down while half tightened, most likely over a bad spot, until it stops and is in a good spot to tighten fully. I'll make a video with explanation if it helps.
 
Thurs Jan 24:

Mid Afternoon:

1 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

PM:

6 sets BTC
10-20 min wet jelq - flaccid

Fri Jan 25:

Mid Afternoon:

6 sets BTC
15 min wet jelq - flaccid

PM:

45-50 min [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

Lots of great erections. EQ is great. Erect size is great. Flaccid size is great. Ability to stay hard is great. Hanging is great.

Sat Jan 26:

PM:

3 sets BTC
10-15 min wet jelq - flaccid

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GalGTEhioLc
 
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Medicating;529642 said:
I repped you for your write up. Very good read. Can't seem to find what a pulse push is though. I know why you do it... but not how you do it.

Also my one thread at bib hanger, bib addresses how to properly pulse push. I'm slow so it took a lot of explaining to figure it out, so you should probably read through this thread in it's entirety, I ask very many questions: http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1780&start=150
 
Hey Mike,

So it took me more than half a week, but I finally read your whole thread. At first I did not realize you were the same person, but the first time I saw a post by you was when I read a thread about not ejaculating that you either started or commented in. I totally agree with that based on my limited experience. I feel exactly what you described after ejaculating, and I have the same tendencies you do in that respect (if I bust once, I might bust like 8 more times within a day or two and then try to go cold turkey again).

So, I started Penis Enlargement once a year ago, stopped, and started again recently. TBH, I have felt some decent girth results as soon as I began clamping, but I have never gained anything as far as length. I'm about 7 BPenis EnlargementL and 5 something EG. When I began clamping and got the feel for it, I realized that sometimes using tools can actually be a HUGE advantage. That being said, your thread has also convinced me to begin hanging, and sadly, to stop girth work until I get length. I really really really want girth, but if it is better to get length first then I am willing to wait and patiently work.

I plan to order the BIB starter asap, because I don't want to waste further time not getting results or getting very slow results. My goal length is at least 9 NBPenis EnlargementL, but more in the range of 9.5-10. I'm 24, and have had decent amounts of experience with women, but regardless of how well I can please a woman now I still want a massive tool.

I'm going to check the BIB forum about preventing Turkey Neck because that is my major concern with hanging. Other than that, I am even willing to hang despite previously having reservations about doing so since I live with my parents. Thanks man!
 
Also, months ago in this thread you posted about being able to get with women. I don't know if you still have any issues or would like advice, but here is my two cents.

A few years ago I had already had a serious girlfriend, but I was very socially anxious and especially scared to flirt with women. I got involved with a very good PUA group, but they were not the type to actually go out with and pick up women. They were mainly older experienced guys who just gave me advice, the most important of which was to take up bodybuilding. I built a serious body, and at first took baby steps to get used to approaching women. After a while I got decent, but only two more lays. I also got involved with other PUA groups, and some of these guys I went out with. As others have said, these types of guys are better to avoid then even go out with. They are annoying, clueless, and most of all end up fucking up your approaches.

More recently I visited my parents home country, where most of my cousins are useless non-working shits but constantly try to get pussy. This got me in the habit of approaching women pretty much anywhere and truly not giving a fuck. At this point I don't mind talking to women anywhere, but because of my living situation with my parents and things like that I am getting mixed results.

TBH you have a great size for MOST women; a lot of women I've been with have considered me good sexually and you're even bigger than me. Honestly all you really need is good work with your hands and being good at eating pussy and you're set for MOST women. Also, I recommend you get in the habit of asking for women's numbers randomly throughout your day. ONE KEY THING BEING NOT AT WORK OR REALLY ANY PLACE YOU REGULARLY HAVE TO GO TO. A bar you like to hang at is different, by regularly I mean like a gym or place of work. If something goes wrong you can REALLY by fucked over.

P.S. when I don't ejaculate for like 4 or 5 days I get beyond horny and I seem to go a little too far with women. I also might be bipolar or schizo, so my advice is be careful who you speak to. People can be sensitive and up their own asses.
 
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Great post, thanks Boohoohoo. I'm thinking my size is probably good for most women too, with a few on either sides of my placement on the bell curve in regards to vaginal depth and width.

Yeah, I'm not sure how to swing the work thing. I guess I really can't tell the difference between a girl just being friendly and a girl being attracted. It's not like I'll ever figure that one out, anyways.

If you keep up with the not jerking off, get into the habit of it, you will find it gets easier with time. I end up ejaculating once or twice every 2-3 weeks, then I just reset and go about my business. I find it makes me very horny some days, but I am used to it now, as I have gone a year and a half trying to do this, so most days I am just normal and I don't really think about it.

Erections are good to have anyways for many reasons regarding Penis Enlargement and otherwise. When not masturbating frequently, I have ridiculous night time erections, which I like. I feel it helps growth and repair, and have been told this by a doctor.

Yes, that article on ejaculation affecting gains was written by me last spring. There is also an article where I have a Q&A with a doctor who is a maverick in the Penis Enlargement community.

Sun Jan 27:

6 sets BTC
12 min jelq - flaccid

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMIwBdOHuHc
 
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Mike there's no way to tell the difference between women being friendly or attracted because you, as the man, are there to set it up otherwise. If you want sex, then just assume any woman who looks at your wants to have sex with you. It's as simple as that.
 
Tahir Aqbar;529835 said:
Mike there's no way to tell the difference between women being friendly or attracted because you, as the man, are there to set it up otherwise. If you want sex, then just assume any woman who looks at your wants to have sex with you. It's as simple as that.

Hmm, I've never considered it like that.

In other words, regardless of her impression of you, your job is to turn her talking to you to her being attracted to you? Regardless of if she has considered being with you or not?
 
MikeShlort;529847 said:
Hmm, I've never considered it like that.

In other words, regardless of her impression of you, your job is to turn her talking to you to her being attracted to you? Regardless of if she has considered being with you or not?

Yep.
 
boohoohoo;529705 said:
I got involved with a very good PUA group, but they were not the type to actually go out with and pick up women. They were mainly older experienced guys who just gave me advice, the most important of which was to take up bodybuilding. I built a serious body, and at first took baby steps to get used to approaching women. After a while I got decent, but only two more lays.

Boohoo are you American? If so, I've noticed that to be the key here. I'm not very muscular at all (something I am aiming to change), but back home (England) a guys physique seems to be far, far less of an issue. Girls back home never really seemed to care about what a guys body was like, as long as you weren't overly fat or anything. Since I've moved to America it's all changed. The ugliest kids who have muscular physiques get the hottest girls. I've seen guys with a terrible sense of style, a face like a slapped arse, and a haircut from Stevie Wonder get really attractive girls, purely because they have a muscular physique.

If you're not from America, nevermind, but I've a strong idea that you are. Be funny if you were from the UK as then my view would be completely down the pan.
 
Mon Jan 28:

2 sets BTC
15 min jelq - flaccid

1 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

2 sets BTC
1 set BTC
1 set OTRS (over the right shoulder)
15 min jelq - flaccid

Tue Jan 29:

3 sets BTC
10 min jelq - flaccid

1 hour [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

Gym - Legs, cardio (Very light. 1 set each exercise. 20 reps, 10 for squats. Low weight. 5 min warm up jog, 8 min jog at end)

2 sets BTC
1 set OTLS (over the left shoulder)
15 min flaccid jelq

All sets are still 7.5lbs and 20 min.
 
The first length measurement, the ruler was pushed in too far, probably more like 6.7-6.8.

How the fuck can you post pictures so they show up in the post and not as a link?????

DLD, you need to get rid of the 10 minute time limit to edit posts. Seriously. Very annoying. Can you please delete my last post (#510) with the pictures? I want to re-do it again when I figure out how to have the actual pictures show in the post, rather than just as links. I want to compare side to side.

Thanks.
 
Roughly 0.4" EG and 0.35" NBPenis EnlargementL. Also, flaccid size, increased EQ, the ability to fuck without cumming, more frequent erections, morning wood, the knowledge and comfort in the fact I can make my penis huge if need be.

I'm a tough gainer. I've basically done 30 min - 1 hr manual stretching each day since September 26, 2011. The most actual length I've gained was 0.25", which was in the past two and a half months of hanging. I also went from 5.5" EG to 5.75" EG from 2.5 months of pumping. I stopped pumping to focus on length again.

So, in other words, I spent a lot of time figuring things out, then once I stumbled onto a program that worked for me, I gained about a quarter of an inch each direction.

I will take another picture once I am up to 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL. Last measure, I was 7.15" NBPenis EnlargementL. I don't want to get much longer for the time being.

I also will want to go from 5.75" EG to 6" EG, but only after I have cemented my 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL.

I am confident I will reach these goals and not worried about it at all. I have discovered the two best tools for Penis Enlargement - hanging and pumping. And I also have PGE1 to assist me further.

You can tell by the pictures that my penis got bigger over that time period, even if it doesn't show on the ruler. It's even larger now. If I had been progressing with my BTC hanging as I had originally planned, I bet you I would be at 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL right now. Hanging BTC has got to be the best form of Penis Enlargement I have ever encountered.
 
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hepcat;530347 said:
I'm a tough gainer too. How do you keep yourself motivated? You seem extremely determined. With me, I'm starting to think it isn't worth all the time put in for minimal gains. Are you just super-focused on getting a bigger dick? I was so positive I would be a fast gainer because I actualized it in my mind like DLD suggested, but when I realized I was on the other side of the spectrum all I could think of was of course it's got to be an ordeal like everything else. So how do you get past all the frustration?

Well, like I said, I found two methods that produced quick results. Back in January, 2011, I was getting sick of not gaining from manual exercises, so I bought a pump. By April, I was up from 5.5 EG to 5.8 EG. That motivated me, especially seeing a temporary 7.25" EG pump.

Then I stumbled onto PGE1 and wanted to worry about length again. I tried that out for a couple months, but realized that if I wanted to gain 2" in EL, I'd need to approach it differently. So I researched hanging. Then I started hanging, and since, I've finally broken 7" NBPenis EnlargementL.

I kept re-inventing Penis Enlargement; researching and applying my new findings until I found something that worked. Using the pumping + jelqing routine with success was a big part in showing me Penis Enlargement works.

Also, I look at it like I do going to the gym. I'm not going to get much bigger, but in time, if I stick with it, I will have permanent results. It's just another exercise to maintain your body.

And I just want a big dick. It's not really hard to stay motivated once I get into a routine.

I suggest you just buy a hanger and figure out how to use it. You don't really need to be 8" either. That seems pretty big and that a deep hole would be needed to accommodate that. I could be wrong, though. Either way, I'm not too worried.
 
Hanging is only dangerous if you're retarded. I am retarded, and I tightened waay too tight, so I had a numb glans for a month. Also, it took me a month to figure out attachment point, but I got it and now there are no problems. Best Penis Enlargement method I've tried (for length).

Hanger is $75 from Bib. You can get one from malehanger for like $35 bucks. I own a Bib.

I don't think I gained any length from pumping. If anything, I lost length.

I imagine any gains smaller than a half inch are usually from improved EQ. That's why I consider my latest length increase to be a gain of 0.25", because it isn't improved EQ - my EQ was already top notch. It's actual length from stretching.
 
Every time I shave my pubes, my penis turtles up for the next few days. I think it may be a defense mechanism. I find when I have longer pubes, it hangs better.
 
Ridiculous EQ last night and an intense edging session. [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Penis health[/words] is very good. Control has gotten very good as well. Ready for hole(s).
 
Fri Feb 1:

1 set BTC
1 set BTC - 10 min (Had to stop mid-set to take a shit. It was literally 3 feet long)
1 set BTC
10-15 min jelq with leech oil - flaccid and some EQ

Gym (Chest). 5 min warm up run, 10 min run after. Light weight, high reps.

3 sets BTC
1 set OTRS
15 min jelq with leech oil - some EQ and some flaccid

I haven't ejaculated in over 3 weeks. Well over 3 weeks. Nearly a month. My pecker is hostile. Jelqing flaccid is becoming more difficult. EQ is great.
 
MikeShlort;530708 said:
I haven't ejaculated in over 3 weeks. Well over 3 weeks. Nearly a month. My pecker is hostile. Jelqing flaccid is becoming more difficult. EQ is great.

How's the mental part doing? Honestly, I think that's the greatest benefit in a lot of ways but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
 
Up until last week I went 3 weeks without ejaculation as well. Never felt better. I was in a good mood everyday, my flaccid hang was huge, my sessions were ten times better and my EQ was amazing I never knew my dick could get that hard it was amazing. When I finally did climax on week 4 it was by far the most intense orgasm I ever experienced.
 
Jerking off is the worst. Makes me feel tired, weak, depressed etc. And it makes my penis shrink. I actually masturbated twice yesterday and once this morning. Yuck.


Still at 7.5 lbs for all angles

Sat Feb 2:

5 sets BTC

Sun Feb 3:

No Penis Enlargement

Mon Feb 4:

2 sets BTC
10 min jelq

1.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

3 sets BTC
15 min jelq
 
MikeShlort;531093 said:
Jerking off is the worst. Makes me feel tired, weak, depressed etc. And it makes my penis shrink. I actually masturbated twice yesterday and once this morning. Yuck.


Still at 7.5 lbs for all angles

Sat Feb 2:

5 sets BTC

Sun Feb 3:

No Penis Enlargement

Mon Feb 4:

2 sets BTC
10 min jelq

1.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

3 sets BTC
15 min jelq

Are you still hanging for gains Mike? or cementing?

I agree. Reducing masturbation makes my EQ better, gives a better mindset(focus) and feel like I got more strength in the gym.
I do it 1 or 2 times a week just to clean out the pipes.
 
thependulum;531113 said:
My balls just forced me to mastutbate. Does anyone have any tips on how to fight blue balls?

You could try proper breathing and use of mental visualization to move the excess bio electric energy up your spinal cord, through your brain and down the front of your body to your navel.

Check out: The Multi-Orgasmic Man: Sexual Secrets Every Man Should Know by Mantak Chia. Its a great book to teach you how to control your sexual energy and use it to energize and vitalize your entire body and mind.
 
Powersnake12;531121 said:
You could try proper breathing and use of mental visualization to move the excess bio electric energy up your spinal cord, through your brain and down the front of your body to your navel.

Check out: The Multi-Orgasmic Man: Sexual Secrets Every Man Should Know by Mantak Chia. Its a great book to teach you how to control your sexual energy and use it to energize and vitalize your entire body and mind.


All that went right over my head lol. Sounds deep I'm going to have to check that book out.
 
MikeShlort;531093 said:
Jerking off is the worst. Makes me feel tired, weak, depressed etc. And it makes my penis shrink. I actually masturbated twice yesterday and once this morning. Yuck.


Still at 7.5 lbs for all angles

Sat Feb 2:

5 sets BTC

Sun Feb 3:

No Penis Enlargement

Mon Feb 4:

2 sets BTC
10 min jelq

1.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

3 sets BTC
15 min jelq

Yes, beware the "chaser effect". I swear that the shrinkage after masturbating is one part physical and one part biochemical. For one thing the friction is different, obviously, but when I have sex I NEVER have shrinkage afterwards and I actually do think that it very well may have to do with the chemical exchange with my gf of now and gf's past.

But yes, I think daily masturbation really can lead to depressive feelings and feeling kind of hungover or something. I never, ever feel this way after sex. In fact I usually feel energized even if I'm tired.
 
thependulum;531132 said:
All that went right over my head lol. Sounds deep I'm going to have to check that book out.

This is a common yoga technique amongst regular practicioners as well as Taoists. I have no idea how to do it except visualizing and meditation. I don't do it often because I never have time what with gf, Penis Enlargement, and work. I should probably take the time...it's very settling.
 
neognostic;531195 said:
Yes, beware the "chaser effect". I swear that the shrinkage after masturbating is one part physical and one part biochemical. For one thing the friction is different, obviously, but when I have sex I NEVER have shrinkage afterwards and I actually do think that it very well may have to do with the chemical exchange with my gf of now and gf's past.

But yes, I think daily masturbation really can lead to depressive feelings and feeling kind of hungover or something. I never, ever feel this way after sex. In fact I usually feel energized even if I'm tired.

Wow. I said in past posts on this forum that I believe masturbation drains the penis and body, while vagina revitalizes it. I too remember having a nice, large flaccid after raw vaginal intercourse.

I believed that it had to do with the intensity and strength of grip, as well as the fact that you are ejaculating alone, which just seems improper.

I believed there was some kind of energy released between two people during and after sex, which is why my penis was never "over trained".

I had never seen any evidence written out and didn't quite know how to verbalize my beliefs, they are just something I thought I had figured out for myself. It's cool to see that someone else is able to put into words what I believe to be the difference between masturbation and vaginal intercourse.

I wrote a thread on how I think masturbating is shitty and faced some support, as well as some resistance. But I am positive not masturbating is a better option, and having vaginal intercourse is the best option of all.

And incidentally, I had this "masturbation" hangover today. I was inexplicably tired, weak, and lethargic all day, after getting a solid 9 hours of sleep last night. I've been wanking away like a fool for the past couple days, but it has got to stop.

Not only that, my penis is over trained, sore, EQ is horrible. It hurts to wear my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. It hurts at the attachment point for hanging. The only benefit I could see is jerking off so many times that the penis so so weak, then hanging some sets for gains.

But to answer KingCobra's question, I am hanging BTC for cementing (ligaments) and adding higher angled hanging for "gains" - which I feel will be minimal, but I don't want to get too much larger in EL at this time. I just am worried about flaccid size, EQ and keeping my current 7.15" NBPenis EnlargementL size. Maybe adding 0.25" EG would be cool, but not necessary at this point.

I need to find me some holes before I can justify needing a larger girth. I am convinced that the average woman-hole is not comparable to the ones I see on the screen of my MacBook Pro.
 
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MikeShlort;531199 said:
Wow. I said in past posts on this forum that I believe masturbation drains the penis and body, while vagina revitalizes it. I too remember having a nice, large flaccid after raw vaginal intercourse.
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There is a total fatigue that is felt after orgasm and I big reason I advocate for stretching after masturbation for those that practice. If there is something pressing or important on my agenda, I will not release until I have accomplished these things for the very reason you site. I have heard men ask very big questions on such things that require a certain edge to answer where I have directed them to masturbate before making a very big decision. For me, masturbation plays an important role in making decisions that are not out of passion in the moment. I see benefits for each side.
 
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