Mike Shlort's Journey To Becoming A Real Man

hepcat;535437 said:
I found that grazing caused me to gain weight as I find when I eat a large lunch sometimes I can go the rest of the day without eating anything.
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Going a long time without eating is bad. It actually makes you bloated and you look fatter. I've heard many people say they are leaner when they eat frequently myself included. I have abs after I've eaten a good meal but look puffy when I haven't eaten for 5 hours.

On the other hand, you should not be constantly eating. Ideally, you want to eat a good meal (that contains all the things in those links) then not have to eat again until you are hungry (hopefully in around 3 hours). I find snacking makes me look bloated as well, whereas eating a nice meal, then not eating again until I'm hunger (3-4 hours later), then eating another nice meal keeps me looking cut.

You know you are on the right track when you start to have bowel movements after a meal or before you are about to eat another meal. Ideally, (for me), I want to wake up, bang out a huge deuce, eat a big breakfast (never eating past the feeling of full), eat another nice meal in about 3-4 hours when I'm hungry again, and then bang out another deuce shortly after that. I heard somewhere if you're healthy, you should shit after each meal (and if you're eating right). Sounds about right for me.

So you don't want to go hungry but grazing is bullshit too. Just eat, work, get hungry, then eat. The best time (for me) to work out is over an hour after I've eaten. I don't feel like I've just eaten, but I'm not really hungry. The food is digested, I'm running free of anything moving around in my stomach. I usually have full strength at this point (I find digesting while working out takes away from your power and digesting makes you tired in general) and I look cut, so I am adding to that.

I'd say the hardest part of it is figuring out when to eat and when not to eat rather than waht to eat. But each are equally important I'd say. When to work out is key too. Guys stuff themselves then hit the gym. Fuck that.
 
hepcat;535447 said:
I find that no matter what or when I eat I always look the same. The only thing that makes me look thinner is eating as little as possible, which includes skipping meals. I'm not saying I'm Mr. Fit because I'm far from it. I'm pretty lean but can't seem to get rid of my gut (shitty family genetics). It drives me crazy. I'm not fat but more skinny fat if you will. Basically, it looks like I've got a beer gut. Even when I lose weight I have the same figure just a smaller version of it. Oh yeah, fucking cock sluts!
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Guess you need to start doing some hardcore interval training then
 
Half an hour, walking for 1 min, sprinting for 1 min on a treadmill. Start at 5 min, work your way up each day. Google it, I'm don't know much about it.
 
hepcat;535521 said:
I forgot to mention my gut started when I began taking psych meds, before that I was just skinny. The cocktail of meds is up to 7 different types. It makes me feel hopeless about being able to get rid of it. I hope your interval training suggestion can make a dent. I don't want to stop taking my meds cause they help, but looking out of shape even though I eat good and go to the gym makes me depressed. Ah, the ebb and flow.
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Also look into Fartlek training. It's like interval training but rather than sticking to sprinting for a minute and then walking for a minute et cetera, you go at your own pace. So jogging for a few minutes, sprinting, walking. May be easier to start off with.
 
Maybe your psych meds fuck with your testosterone. Estrogen production leads to fat gaining, being fat leads to more estrogen production.. Try finding a doctor who isn't just a drug pusher and see if they have any alternatives for you
 
hepcat;535633 said:
Are you talking about a geneticist or could I just go to my GP?
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I don't know. I wasn't happy with what my doctor was telling me about my penis so I got a second opinion. I didn't like what that asshole told me either so I got a third opinion that differed from the first two. Try talking to as many educated people in that field as you can.
 
hepcat;535521 said:
I forgot to mention my gut started when I began taking psych meds, before that I was just skinny. The cocktail of meds is up to 7 different types. It makes me feel hopeless about being able to get rid of it. I hope your interval training suggestion can make a dent. I don't want to stop taking my meds cause they help, but looking out of shape even though I eat good and go to the gym makes me depressed. Ah, the ebb and flow.
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Have you considered actual psychoanalysis versus traditional talking therapy, etc? I've heard a lot of good things. I've actually been thinking of doing it myself to help work some things out.
 
Mike i've read you say you're a hard gainer several times in this thread, is there anything you can identify as the reason why?
 
I also reside in Canada. Im telling ya man, its fucking impossible to find a viagra or even a cialias. from ineternet to drug dealers i know. lol.
 
insaneone2;535755 said:
I also reside in Canada. Im telling ya man, its fucking impossible to find a viagra or even a cialias. from ineternet to drug dealers i know. lol.
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Reply to me. I make a good salary. I have no reason to fuck you over.
 
Powersnake12;535369 said:
Not to hijack neo's thread but try this:

http://images.azngamerboi.multiply....oKCC0AAHbfL1o1/The_Venusian_Arts_Handbook.pdf

You might want to not give a fuck about social circles, judgement from females, social stigma, segregation, older vs. younger.

You could work on your attraction. You could work on your seduction skills.

Sooner or later you will walk through the world without apology for being a man, for being Mike and for taking what you want.

Cheers.
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This is my thread so not to worry about hijacking.

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the approach I am having trouble wrapping my mind around.

It's the chances to encounter women. In high school, they were there. You know them from school, when you go to parties is when you get the chance to fool around with them. How do you ever get that chance when you are no longer in school and never go to any parties? Girls don't want to be picked up at a bar when they're pushing 30, or if they're young and the guy is in his mid 20s.

I just can't figure out how I would even come into contact with girls. My work is the same thing. The girls are college aged. The only way for me to have a chance with any of them is to go to the parties they go to but I don't get that opportunity.

It seems like it's less about looks and the way you carry yourself and more about social status and having a personality that allows you to be popular and have many acquaintances.

I can't figure out this. I will never have the personality to be popular, and the older I get, the less opportunities I have to have sex with women are. No school, no parties, no friends, no social connection = no women. I can lift weights all I want and make my dick large and look great but that doesn't matter because no girl wants to give it up to a stranger, a nobody. You go to a bar alone, they will immediately ask who you're with. You say you're by yourself, you lose. That's a red flag to them, a turn off. They see you as a loser just trying to pick up and then you lose.

Not sure how I can find a way around it. I always try to figure it out in my head and I always come to the same result - the older I get, the more disconnected from society I get, the less chances to meet females. I really can't see any logical way I'd be able to meet the type of female I'm interested in other than going to college or renting a room with college students and that is too drastic, too pathetic.

Any ideas?
 
hepcat;535651 said:
I do cognitive behavioral therapy. It helps to a degree with depression but more so with my OCD, which is very severe. The behavioral aspect of the treatment is done through Exposure Response Prevention (ERP), where you must confront your issues head on to an extreme. It will cause extreme anxiety but eventually it fades and allows you to overcome said fear, compulsion, or obsessions (or at least it's supposed to). It works to a certain extent, especially when in an inpatient facility, but it is hard to maintain when you're on your own. ERP's for depression are pretty retarded. So I do more talk therapy with my shrink.

Anyway, what is this psycohanalysis treatment you speak of? How is it different than other forms of treatment?
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Since you don't have a wingman can i assume that you're mostly just doing talk therapy? Doesn't that undermine the overall approach? I'm asking because I believe in progress. :s
 
MikeShlort;536251 said:
This is my thread so not to worry about hijacking.

I appreciate the advice, but it's not the approach I am having trouble wrapping my mind around.

It's the chances to encounter women. In high school, they were there. You know them from school, when you go to parties is when you get the chance to fool around with them. How do you ever get that chance when you are no longer in school and never go to any parties? Girls don't want to be picked up at a bar when they're pushing 30, or if they're young and the guy is in his mid 20s.

I just can't figure out how I would even come into contact with girls. My work is the same thing. The girls are college aged. The only way for me to have a chance with any of them is to go to the parties they go to but I don't get that opportunity.

It seems like it's less about looks and the way you carry yourself and more about social status and having a personality that allows you to be popular and have many acquaintances.

I can't figure out this. I will never have the personality to be popular, and the older I get, the less opportunities I have to have sex with women are. No school, no parties, no friends, no social connection = no women. I can lift weights all I want and make my dick large and look great but that doesn't matter because no girl wants to give it up to a stranger, a nobody. You go to a bar alone, they will immediately ask who you're with. You say you're by yourself, you lose. That's a red flag to them, a turn off. They see you as a loser just trying to pick up and then you lose.

Not sure how I can find a way around it. I always try to figure it out in my head and I always come to the same result - the older I get, the more disconnected from society I get, the less chances to meet females. I really can't see any logical way I'd be able to meet the type of female I'm interested in other than going to college or renting a room with college students and that is too drastic, too pathetic.

Any ideas?
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Pulling in bars is really a numbers game, you probably won't be meeting the love of your life hitting on a dozen women a night but you could probably get it done. You could also say 'they had to go'.

My advice is the internet, i'm hopeless at pulling women in bars but put me in a 1 on 1 meet situation and it's all good.
 
Women who internet date aren't attractive to me. That won't work. Unless it's one of those hook up sites, but I don't believe there are any real girls on there. Unless anybody knows of any in North America where there are actually real girls.

I need more ideas guy.

I found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] by searching penis enlargement on google.
 
Awesome progress, man. Im a bodybuilder and have competed many times and have helped quite a few aspiring athletes achieve their goals. If your interested Id be more than willing to help you in your efforts. What are your main goals?
 
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