neognostic;521466 said:
Mike, it sounds like you've been at this a while. If you don't mind, how much did you gain prior to taking up hanging?
I started end of Sept 2011. Lengthwise, I mainly gained from EQ. The most I've ever measured (NBP) myself in my life is a tad over 7" but that was long ago and I measured from the side. Before I started hanging, I measured 7.1 NBP the proper way (on top) while standing (which normally gives me less length). This was a maximum measurement.
Before I started Penis Enlargement, I was around probably 6.5 NBP due to poor EQ. So if you see my pictures from Aug 8 on the first post of this thread, I am at 6.9 NBP. I maybe gained a couple decimal points at the most from manual Penis Enlargement + extending in that year.
Funny thing is, I did gain around an inch of BPFSL from Penis Enlargement. So those gains are relevant. I believe before Penis Enlargement I maybe was able to stretch not much more than 7.75 BPFSL, I've been extremely close to 9" BPFSL after a manual session.
I haven't measure since I started hanging but I know I've lost some BPFSL and EL, but that's the nature of it. I haven't been keeping up on manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work the past month due to conditioning for hanging - I didn't want to add any extra stress to the glans, as I have been experiencing mild numbness in my glans from improper hanging technique.
Once I am fully conditioned from hanging, I will resume manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use. But I am in no rush for that.
I believe for me to gain any significant length, hanging is require. Basically anything that exerts constant force for a long amount of time. Manual stretching was not cutting it for me. I am not strong enough to yield the desired results, although I do believe manual stretching is very important and I am going to include it in any routine, permitting my penis is conditioned enough and I have the time.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] also are good for BPFSL, which I find for me translated into temporarily longer erections.
Girth is a different story. I feel much more confident about my ability to gain girth. I started at around 5.4" EG, now I am hovering at 5.75-5.85. The majority of that gain came in a 2 month time while following a routine of pumping and jelqing. This routine can also be found on the first page of this thread, post #2 I believe.
I stopped girth because I had a conversation with a doctor who told me pumping can lead to complications with length gain (ie fibrosis) and basically stated that it should be done once desired length has been acquired (The link to an article where I share the results of a Q&A session with this doctor can be found on this thread. Page 1 and also around post 191 in my hanging guide). Basically the same theology all the hangers have. At the time, I was unaware of all the information hangers possessed so I overlooked it while doing research.
After the talk with the doctor, I decided to try PGE1 injections with manual stretching + hanging. Long story short, the PGE1 complicated the hanging (attachment point soreness, largely in part due to improper technique), I did more research on Penis Enlargement and decided to get to my goal of 2" NBPenis EnlargementL gained, I am going to have to stretch my ligs and tunica (hanging) before I go about adding raw tissue mass to penis (PGE1 - chemPenis Enlargement).
So now I am doing a strictly hanging based routine, going about it very conservatively, following everything Bib suggests, keeping in close contact with him for any questions I have etc. I am not even going to bother measuring (BPFSL) for at least another 2-3 months.
All of what I am telling you can be found on this thread. I post a ton of helpful things such as articles, theories, links, information, techniques etc.
As of right now, nobody really has any reason to listen to me, but once I have picture proof of actual significant gains, I am sure people will more inclined to consider my theories.