doublelongdaddy;664540 said:
Don't forget to get in some Expressive Stretching and some Erect Stretching. These will further your gains and help cement them as you continue to gain. Other than that your routine changes look great!

Erect stretching I can do by hands and with my bathmates, the hardcore stretches! Pull the fuck out of those deep ligaments eh?
Will re-read about expressive stretching. Think I might need a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words]
 
Simyan;664569 said:
Erect stretching I can do by hands and with my bathmates, the hardcore stretches! Pull the fuck out of those deep ligaments eh?
Will re-read about expressive stretching. Think I might need a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length Master[/words]

I really like erect stretching..i was so scared of them before [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] , i knew if i do any kind of PE exercise while erect my dick will falll off..pfff...
 
I have two questions:
1. If I have [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], is it the only [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I'll ever need, or would it be better to have a rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] also?
2. When I'm not extended, is it better to wear no underwear and suffer serious turtling, because of the cold (winters here are cold as hell), or wear loose boxer shorts - kind of limiting, but keeping me warm. Because I have better flaccid in shorts.
 
GhostRider;667053 said:
1. If I have [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], is it the only [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] I'll ever need, or would it be better to have a rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] also?

IMO , [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan's[/words] stretch is weaker than [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]...these [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] like the PF,VLC,etc,they will keep you extended throughout the day,but they are not strong enough ( unless you're a newbie and your penis is not used to a powerful stretch ) to make you gain inches....PF stretch is nothing compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]..the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will give you a much more powerful stretch.
GhostRider;667053 said:
2. When I'm not extended, is it better to wear no underwear and suffer serious turtling, because of the cold (winters here are cold as hell), or wear loose boxer shorts - kind of limiting, but keeping me warm. Because I have better flaccid in shorts.

You don't want to get turtled..ever...the idea of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] is not to wear very tight underwear..as long as you wear loose boxers or something similar , you're good.
 
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ChilDsh;667056 said:
IMO , [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan's[/words] stretch is weaker than [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]...these [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] like the PF,VLC,etc,they will keep you extended throughout the day,but they are not strong enough ( unless you're a newbie and your penis is not used to a powerful stretch ) to make you gain inches....PF stretch is nothing compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]..the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will give you a much more powerful stretch.

Thanks. But PF company claims it can generate up to 3000g of force. That's 3kgs/6,6lbs. So it's a lot. Problem might be that the ring at the base is not solid and can move a little. But people have gained some length with only PF I've heard.
 
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GhostRider;667063 said:
Thanks. But PF company claims it can generate up to 3000g of force. That's 3kgs/6,6lbs. So it's a lot. Problem might be that the ring at the base is not solid and can move a little. But people have gained some length with only PF I've heard.

I still believe an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is more powerful..but from what i've seen and heard,PF is not as strong..i do not own a PF tho,so i might talk shit..it's just what i think..but if you have the money go for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words],with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] discount is pretty cheap,only about 120 $ if i'm not mistaken.

Ps : The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] has 2800 g of force...i would be very surprised if the PF is stronger than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].
 
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Sg has the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] discount. I know very little about that other device
 
GhostRider;667063 said:
. But PF company claims it can generate up to 3000g of force. .

But the system that delivers the tension is different so maybe that affects it?:(
 
ChilDsh;667074 said:
I still believe an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is more powerful..but from what i've seen and heard,PF is not as strong..i do not own a PF tho,so i might talk shit..it's just what i think..but if you have the money go for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words],with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] discount is pretty cheap,only about 120 $ if i'm not mistaken.

Ps : The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] has 2800 g of force...i would be very surprised if the PF is stronger than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].

The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] is stronger than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] but the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] can be worn much longer. I see the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] as active gaining while the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is also active gaining but can be used for passive healing with more effectiveness than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. The other part of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] that rocks is it can be worn all night.
 
Thanks for the answers. And what kind of girth routine do somebody without a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] or any other pump? Just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] for 3-5 sets of 5 min? I still don't know if I'd be doing girth now, just asking in advance.:)
 
GhostRider;667535 said:
Thanks for the answers. And what kind of girth routine do somebody without a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] or any other pump? Just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] for 3-5 sets of 5 min? I still don't know if I'd be doing girth now, just asking in advance.:)

If you don't have any pump , put jelqing instead of pumping and follow the 5x5x3 program.

5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
Cock ring for as much as possible

Now,you can go for more than 5 min,since you don't use a pump so you have no water retention problems.Like 10 min jelqing,5 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]..etc..just play with the time.
 
ChilDsh;667536 said:
If you don't have any pump , put jelqing instead of pumping and follow the 5x5x3 program.

5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
5 min jelqing
5 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]
Cock ring for as much as possible

Now,you can go for more than 5 min,since you don't use a pump so you have no water retention problems.Like 10 min jelqing,5 [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]..etc..just play with the time.

Thanks. At first I will keep the sets even shorter since [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] are so intense. And I don't know if I should do girth work, cause if I gain anymore girth I won't fit into my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. :cool: They could make a bigger bell though.
 
GhostRider;667539 said:
Thanks. At first I will keep the sets even shorter since [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] are so intense. And I don't know if I should do girth work, cause if I gain anymore girth I won't fit into my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. :cool: They could make a bigger bell though.

What size bell are you using, the biggest?
 
Yo DLD, got a chance to read through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and wanted your feedback on my current routine. Here's what my routine looks by the end of the day on average.

Manual stretches (I use the Malehanger as a stretching device since I don't have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] yet) 30 to 40mins worth
Hang using the LG hanger for 1hr (broken down into 2-4 sets)
Wear my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for atleast 4 or more hrs
2 sets of clamping (3 days a week)
*Whenever I'm not doing any active exercises I put on a silicone sleeve to keep from turtling. I also sleep with it on.
 
doublelongdaddy;667619 said:
What size bell are you using, the biggest?

Yes. I'm using the Large bell with is the biggest. At least until PF company will make a XL bell. And that L bell is like 13-14 cm around the inside. So 5.5 inches max. And that's at the entry, it gets narrower closer to the end. So it was a little difficult getting in there. I figured a way that will work for uncut guys. I just put my penis with foreskin over the glans next to entry and push foward. Foreskin gets retracted and the glans slide into the bell. Only way to get it on comfortably for me. And I tried using the protector cap, but it was too small. Not long enough to cover my whole glans and too tight to have any kind of comfort. At first I was like, "cool, means I'm big" but now I just wish they would make a bigger bell.
 
GhostRider;667731 said:
Yes. I'm using the Large bell with is the biggest. At least until PF company will make a XL bell. And that L bell is like 13-14 cm around the inside. So 5.5 inches max. And that's at the entry, it gets narrower closer to the end. So it was a little difficult getting in there. I figured a way that will work for uncut guys. I just put my penis with foreskin over the glans next to entry and push foward. Foreskin gets retracted and the glans slide into the bell. Only way to get it on comfortably for me. And I tried using the protector cap, but it was too small. Not long enough to cover my whole glans and too tight to have any kind of comfort. At first I was like, "cool, means I'm big" but now I just wish they would make a bigger bell.

Have you suggest to Ron at [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] that you are one of maybe many that may need an extra-large bell? If not do so and I will do the same.
 
Simyan;668187 said:
ron was excellent sent me a custom made cone after the first two didn't fit!

That's amazing..i'm hearing so many awesome stuff about [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].Gotta get one ASAP.
 
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