Mike Shlort's Journey To Becoming A Real Man
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88man;540796 said:
I don't know. It was 9"NBPenis EnlargementL. That seems kind of excessive.
The more inadequate I feel as a human, the larger I want my penis to be. For a brief period, I was okay with my current size (7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL). But now I think I am shooting for 7.75" NBPenis EnlargementL - 8" NBPenis EnlargementL.
I really would like it to be just a bit longer before I add girth to it. It's big as is, but it can be bigger. Adding girth now will just make it look shorter, so I need to add another half inch - 3/4" of length to balance it out.
I'm really just doing this so I can have the personal victory of changing something I was unhappy about through methods that are contrary to popular belief. Chances are I will never use it on the kind of female I desire, or at least not for a long time from now. But to have it is the goal.
right on mike I can dig that 
Congrats on the half inch and keep it going man. I ended up ordering the Bib Starter yesterday, and since it apparently ships out of Texas, and that's where I live, I hope to have it soon. I have an old 300 weight set in my garage that basically has every possible weight I could want to hang with, so I'm set in that regard too. A lot of what you have said resonates with me, so I have decided to focus solely on length by hanging until I get to my goal (something in the 9-10 range). I began using a cable clamp a while back and got amazing temporary gains that lasted for a while, but then it became impossible to do my manual stretches.
I know you mentioned only doing length, and I know you do a bit of light jelqing, but do you think jelqing in conjunction with hanging can help length grow faster? I've really fallen off my Penis Enlargement, but from what I can remember manual stretching did absolutely nothing for me when I was doing it (although I only did it for a short period a couple of times and stopped). However, when I used to jelq with vaseline and manual stretch I believe I began to notice length changes. What do you think?
I know you mentioned only doing length, and I know you do a bit of light jelqing, but do you think jelqing in conjunction with hanging can help length grow faster? I've really fallen off my Penis Enlargement, but from what I can remember manual stretching did absolutely nothing for me when I was doing it (although I only did it for a short period a couple of times and stopped). However, when I used to jelq with vaseline and manual stretch I believe I began to notice length changes. What do you think?
boohoohoo;540949 said:
My light jelqing has gradually turned into harder jelqing. I like to jelq for 20 minutes after my last set of the day. I usually do 1-3 sets in the morning, jelq for 10 min, then the remainder of the sets in the evening and jelq for 20 min.
Just last night and the night before, I was jelqing relatively hard and I was noticing how after all the stress from the hanger and weight, my dick was really broken down and it hurt to jelq but felt good at the same time. It really felt like it was stretching my penis even more after all the micro tears had been done from hanging.
I was jelqing in a way that it was like I was pulling my dick up to my face, instead of jelqing for girth. If that makes any sense. I had in mind that I am jelqing for length and the hand motion complied.
I really can see now how jelqing for an hour after a 3-5 hour PGE1 erection can lead to gains. This is what Ronielle did, the amateur chemical Penis Enlargement pioneer. I am definitely keeping jelqing in my hanging routine and I will only increase in intensity and time, if time allows.
I also can't wait to start the PGE1 process once I reach 8"NBPenis EnlargementL. I imagine I will gain a bit of extra length by doing the jelqing after the PGE1 erection subsides.
I could really see new veins (small ones) and my penis looks like a beast. Just a smaller version of a beast. And it gets hard as fuck. Penis Enlargement is definitely amazing. The fact that it can be this hard in a broken down state is amazing. And when I think about it, after all the bullshit I do to my dick and it's still able to perform in my hand, I can imagine how much rage and aggression it's going to have when it gets to perform in the vagina of a hot woman. Coupled with the workouts I do (body), I would theoretically be an intense lover. I'm just missing the hot sluts and the practice to get the moves down! All in time.
So, yeah, to answer your question. Jelqing is amazing. But start off very light. I've been hanging since Oct 31, 2012. Like every day. I just started jelqing a bit harder. And before, when I went a bit too hard, I'd wake up with light bruising and sore spots on my dick. So take it slow and "listen to your penis", as they say.
Also, be prepared for some frustration and pain with hanging. It's a steep learning curve. It took me well over a month and a half to start hanging for gains. And it's still painful as fuck (mostly because I've switched angle of attack suddenly). I currently have a scab on my shaft where the hanger attaches. The nice part about the jelqing is the vaseline leaves the skin moisturized, so that's cool.
Just take it really slow. I'm not rushing things at all. I realize this is a slow process, like a ship towing a glacier. It's more of a thing I just do every day rather than do every day thinking "okay, I will measure again in a week because there should be gains". I've done maybe 5 actual measures since I've started. My last measure was last night, to some very hot adult entertainment, so I was 100%. I was 7.4"NBPenis EnlargementL, very close to 7.5". But I'm still going to classify it as 7.25" NBPenis EnlargementL because 1) you need to be with a really hot chick to get to 100%, and 2) that initial 100% doesn't stay 100% as you start to use it. It diminishes to 90%-95%. So if my 90%-95% is 7.25"NBPenis EnlargementL, that's pretty good.
The 8"NBPenis EnlargementL goal is for a measure of 100%.
Sat March 30:
3 sets SDS
15-20 min jelqing vaseline
15 min edging (couldn't help myself, fucking kinsey and his ridiculous links documenting black penis size in sluts)
3 sets SDS
20 min vaseline jelq
Nice man. I've read your entire thread and it gives me a lot of hope that you're coming along. Honestly for me if I can get things straightened out I start law school in September, so I really can't see myself putting in as much time as you do. I was into bodybuilding myself (that's what I call what you do for your body despite what others may call it), and I got amazing results. Like a bunch of hot women would drool over me. Recently though I switched to boxing, and I fucking suck at it. It's a tough choice because it is hard as hell and time consuming and you don't get attention like with bodybuilding, but if I box, go to law school, and Penis Enlargement then wtf else can I possibly do? No time for anything really. Plus I don't see myself spending more than 1 and a half hours MAX on Penis Enlargement a day 7 days a week. I also crave the results, but not at the expense of a normal life.
I have checked out Bib's forum based on your advice and once the device arrives I'll reread some things, but I'm hoping that I can get into a comfortable routine with this before school starts. I'll probably ask you for advice when it arrives. Your thread is great man, keep it up!
I have checked out Bib's forum based on your advice and once the device arrives I'll reread some things, but I'm hoping that I can get into a comfortable routine with this before school starts. I'll probably ask you for advice when it arrives. Your thread is great man, keep it up!
boohoohoo;540973 said:
What supplements did you use for bodybuilding? (legal or otherwise). I am having trouble. I am quite petite. Look like an underwear model (not bad, but have to be wearing pretty tight clothes to get noticed - not good for work)
MikeShlort;540978 said:
Well, let me explain that I have been big on athletics since I was at least 15. I'm talking spending 5 days a week in the gym the WHOLE day over the summer when I was in high school (my dad would drop me off before work and pick me up after/ I mainly played basketball but also ran and lifted weights). Also, my body is built like on the smaller side of really big and the huge side of average. I currently weigh around 250 lbs (6'2''), and although I do have a good amount of fat right now I look muscular and am treated that way.
When I first started body building about three years ago I used Whey Protein, Glutamine, BCAA's (Branch Chain Amino Acids), and Nitric Oxide.
1. Nitric Oxide gives you a huge rush that they say is like cocaine (never used coke). It was recently proven to cause heart attacks and in my case didn't help THAT much and stopped working after around a year. Your body gets used to it and it doesn't have the same effect.
2. Glutamine and BCAA's are supposedly for recovery, but tbh I don't think they do much and are especially not useful for guys who are doing this to look good or recreationally. I only recommend them if you are seriously into strength work, and even then I'm not sure.
3. Whey protein I think is decent. It's protein, which helps you pack on muscle. Apparently whey absorbs into the body faster. I am not so sure about that. If you want buy it in 10 lbs packets. If not just drink milk and eat meat.
My biggest recommendation for a skinny guy is just drink plenty of milk and eat lots of meat. Preferably eat chicken and fish, but if you are thin you can eat the higher calorie red meats without a worry. Didn't you state in another post you prefer to be more defined than big though? The only way to get a bigger more muscular body, however, despite what you may eat, is to lift more weight. This is not a direct causation, but basically the stronger you get the bigger and/or denser your muscles will become.
I want to be strong, cut and as big as I can be without having any extra body fat. Ideally, I'd like to shed another 2% body fat.
My diet is good and my training is okay. I am gradually building up. Once I plateau, I am going to start looking into things like testosterone and peptides.
before I wanted to be huge and I ate all the time. I ended up stronger but with a gut. It looked like shit. So now I am conscious of my stomach. I basically want to be cut as fuck with big muscles. Like everyone wants. Anything to get sluts easier, really. I would never spend money on them, suckhole around douchebags to get in good with a social circle or any of that, so I need to look my best possible self to pull the sluts.
That's all I really want. Used to want a relationship but now I just want to fuck a bunch of hot girls. Relationship seems like a job and women only look at men to see what they can get from them. They look at things like - what will my friends think, will he give me good sex, will he take care of me, what can he do for me, will he entertain me, will he take me out to parties, will he let me live with him rent free, will he give me kids and take care of them, does he have a good career, how big of a house can he afford.... I look at girls and wonder if she's a good person and can I fall in love with her. They don't look at men like this, so I just want to fuck them because my testicles tell me to. Other than that, I have no use.
My diet is good and my training is okay. I am gradually building up. Once I plateau, I am going to start looking into things like testosterone and peptides.
before I wanted to be huge and I ate all the time. I ended up stronger but with a gut. It looked like shit. So now I am conscious of my stomach. I basically want to be cut as fuck with big muscles. Like everyone wants. Anything to get sluts easier, really. I would never spend money on them, suckhole around douchebags to get in good with a social circle or any of that, so I need to look my best possible self to pull the sluts.
That's all I really want. Used to want a relationship but now I just want to fuck a bunch of hot girls. Relationship seems like a job and women only look at men to see what they can get from them. They look at things like - what will my friends think, will he give me good sex, will he take care of me, what can he do for me, will he entertain me, will he take me out to parties, will he let me live with him rent free, will he give me kids and take care of them, does he have a good career, how big of a house can he afford.... I look at girls and wonder if she's a good person and can I fall in love with her. They don't look at men like this, so I just want to fuck them because my testicles tell me to. Other than that, I have no use.
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MikeShlort;540993 said:
Well feel free to do what you want, but honestly I would never inject anything into my body like testosterone. I hate the thought of doing so, especially for something as silly as having a good body. Just continue to lift and your gains will come. It's a process, and there is no miracle cure to having a hot body. How tall are you and how much do you weigh now? I'm trying to get a sense of what you look like.
I, to a large but not complete extent, agree with your views on women. Rocking the hot body definitely helps. I would even go so far as to say if your goal is to sleep with plenty of hot women you would be better invested stopping Penis Enlargement altogether and dedicate more time to working out, getting a better job, and MOST IMPORTANTLY actually going out and meeting women. The big dick issue would really only come into play if you are in one of those social circles you detest, you are in a relationship, or you happen to meet a TRUE whore. When I say true whore I mean she is willing to sleep with you regardless of your dick size and how much she truly likes you because she just likes giving pussy. Guys lie about dick size all the time to women they are just meeting and women know this.
I think I mentioned this before, but the BEST thing you could possibly do if you are interested in having sex with hot women is either one of two things. Either become EXTREMELY famous and/or rich, or develop your woman pulling skills. Now, if you happen to become rich or famous, that will trump anything you could possibly otherwise do. But if not, you need to get out there (and even into those douchebag crowds) and start approaching women.
Honestly I think this self help trend that is going on now is kind of funny. For me it started out with going the PUA route, then getting into bodybuilding, and now Penis Enlargement. I think you seem to be interested in those three also, and you are already into bodybuilding and Penis Enlargement. Now if you want to meet and fuck gorgeous women, you need to get out there ASAP. I don't really suggest you get into the PUA community, but nevertheless you need to actually start approaching women.
BTW. My golden rule for getting good with women is to lower your standards a bit. You don't have to not approach hot women, but get into approaching and hopefully fucking ones that you feel are average. I've read what you wrote about your ex where you would fuck her for a long time and wouldn't cum. TBH that might not have just been a problem of how she looked. Just like dicks are different and give women different pleasure, pussy is the same. Some feel tighter, some get wetter, some taste better, etc. The best pussy (and I mean literally the actual vagina) I have ever had was on the ugliest woman I was with. With one of the hottest ones I would easily fuck for twenty minutes and just stop. With the ugly one I got like 5 thrusts in and came all over her car.
So my point is you need to get out there if you want to fuck hot women.
I'm 6 ft tall and about 160lbs. This is my physique (sorry that my penis is in this picture but these were taken to compare size over time):
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The last one is from a bit over a year ago but that's pretty much how my body looks now, only I have a bit more definition and I am stronger.
I am in the process of getting a better job. And I don't care to spend more than an hour at the gym, 5 days a week max. Shouldn't take more than that to get large, right? As far as the going out more thing, well, as soon as I hit my goals, I will be ruthless (after I gain some confidence from scoring a couple times). But that is all good advice, thanks.
Another question: At what age do girls start to get turned off by men trying to pick them up? I'm 26 now. How much time do I have left until I am forced to "settle down" (more like become neutered and imprisoned). Is that why you are saying get out there ASAP while I still have time left, or just because it's best to start getting laid before I go crazy?
As for the self help trend, well, before all this effort I put in daily, I put a lot of effort in to destroy myself. So I really have no choice but to compete or just implode. That's why I feel behind the average guy my age. I have shit to learn that I should have known at age 18. Like how to pick up a bitch and get her friends too.
Sun March 31:
Testicle Health massage - have been doing that all week
1.5 hour jog (took a wrong turn)
6 sets SDS - hurt like fucking hell by the end - penis is broken down
20 min vaseline jelq
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The last one is from a bit over a year ago but that's pretty much how my body looks now, only I have a bit more definition and I am stronger.
I am in the process of getting a better job. And I don't care to spend more than an hour at the gym, 5 days a week max. Shouldn't take more than that to get large, right? As far as the going out more thing, well, as soon as I hit my goals, I will be ruthless (after I gain some confidence from scoring a couple times). But that is all good advice, thanks.
Another question: At what age do girls start to get turned off by men trying to pick them up? I'm 26 now. How much time do I have left until I am forced to "settle down" (more like become neutered and imprisoned). Is that why you are saying get out there ASAP while I still have time left, or just because it's best to start getting laid before I go crazy?
As for the self help trend, well, before all this effort I put in daily, I put a lot of effort in to destroy myself. So I really have no choice but to compete or just implode. That's why I feel behind the average guy my age. I have shit to learn that I should have known at age 18. Like how to pick up a bitch and get her friends too.
Sun March 31:
Testicle Health massage - have been doing that all week
1.5 hour jog (took a wrong turn)
6 sets SDS - hurt like fucking hell by the end - penis is broken down
20 min vaseline jelq
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MikeShlort;541016 said:
Okay, so first off this is the first time I have seen your pics. Dude, maybe it is because of your body size being relatively small compared to me, but your cock looks great (no homo I'm not bi or gay). From the looks of it your are one of those guys that will have the "he has a huge dick" thing going for you. I say that also because your are basically 7.5 long, which in most women's eyes will be 8. I'm only right around 7 BPenis EnlargementL with a big body, so my cock doesn't stand out nearly as much.
As far as waiting to hit your goals or looking at your age to dictate when you will start getting with women, those two are not that important. First off, when I used to be totally obsessed with bodybuilding (like I'm talking seven days a week even when I'm sick and only off when I absolutely HAVE to) I got attention from women. Now that I still workout but don't look as good as back then I get MORE female attention and have gotten laid more. The difference is just that I have more experience under my belt. The single biggest way (again aside from being rich and/or famous, and I don't mean having a good job I mean being RICCCHHHH) to get women is not about your body or your age (unless you are too young), it is about knowing how to get them. This is coming from my personal experience over years (I'm about your same age, turning 25 in a few months), but a hot body is just another plus, albeit a relatively big one.
Also, your age is actually in your favor. They say men are like wine, and women are like milk. Men only get better with age (to a certain limit like say your late 40's or 50's), and women get worse off (although I disagree with that personally). The single biggest turn on for women overall aside from a rich or famous guy is an EXPenis EnlargementRIENCED guy. Most people use the term "dominant" to say what I personally mean is essentially experienced. This experience generally comes in one of two ways. As you get older you learn more about life in general and this allows you to deal differently with people than you previously did. Second, I mean actually having experience dating and fucking women. Both of these put you in a much better position to get more women. It's like a cycle. The more you get, the better you become, and the more you get again. THAT'S why I say get out there and get after them. Also, in terms of you settling down that is entirely up to you. Personally I think a guy has time to wait to settle down until around 40 or so. Now there are advantages and disadvantages to waiting that long or never settling down, but its not a big deal to be 65 when your first child is 25.
About your body, it looks good in my opinion, but I can see how it wouldn't stand out too much. I say that especially since you are a white Canadian guy and I assume like 70% of guys in your city have a build similar to yours. I'd say you could stand to gain 20 lbs of muscle, and you would look fucking sexy if you did so. Now, don't rush that shit. Just continue to eat and lift hard and slowly build up to that. I'm talking set your goal to be a cut 180 lbs. by around the time you are 30.
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I hear you about taking it slow. I gorged myself with food just so I could get big, I got to 190lbs and this is how I looked:
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I was lifting 5 days a week, in the gym for 1.5-2 hours each time, and I was much stronger, but I looked fat. No definition, unless I had just worked out and had a pump. So I see what you mean about taking it slow and it could take 4 years to properly gain 20 lbs of muscle without adding any body fat.
Sounds good to me, Thanks dude.
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I was lifting 5 days a week, in the gym for 1.5-2 hours each time, and I was much stronger, but I looked fat. No definition, unless I had just worked out and had a pump. So I see what you mean about taking it slow and it could take 4 years to properly gain 20 lbs of muscle without adding any body fat.
Sounds good to me, Thanks dude.
Sun April 1:
Only 1 set SDS. Have a fucking open wound on my dick that hurts like fuck. Tired of 3 hours of pain a night. Need a night off. Dick hurts. Did one set, took off under wrap, scab came off with it for the 7th day in a row. Enough is enough. Just getting sick of it. What a demanding fucking routine. Tomorrow I'll have to hang 6, no matter what. But not today.
Only 1 set SDS. Have a fucking open wound on my dick that hurts like fuck. Tired of 3 hours of pain a night. Need a night off. Dick hurts. Did one set, took off under wrap, scab came off with it for the 7th day in a row. Enough is enough. Just getting sick of it. What a demanding fucking routine. Tomorrow I'll have to hang 6, no matter what. But not today.
MikeShlort;541230 said:
What is the cut from buddy?
Hey Mike I got a question. Sorry to have to ask you, but I just tried to make an account on Bib's site and it won't fucking let me. Wtf? I wante to ask Bib if my order went through since I did complete the payment on PayPal and how long it would take. Do you know how long it takes and if I should have received something else confirming my payment? Like I got one e-mail from Bib that said they got the order and a paypal email would come. Then I got a bunch of emails from paypal and paid. On Bib's site I remember it said something about printing out a certain page and mailing it in UNLESS you pay by credit card (which is what I did except that it was debit).
Do you think my order was filled and it is on the way? Sorry to ask you but like I said I can't create an account on Bib's site for some fucking reason.
Do you think my order was filled and it is on the way? Sorry to ask you but like I said I can't create an account on Bib's site for some fucking reason.
Medicating;541238 said:
Just from the hanger. Guess I had dry skin coupled with the rubbing of the hanger and stretching of the skin. The skin cracked, started to heal, then each day got worse as I kept ripping the scab off with the under wrap.
I like to put vaseline on my shaft before hanging my sets so the skin won't crack when it's stretched, but of course vaseline makes it so the tape doesn't hold... and lotion gives me a rash because there is so much shit in it, it actually dries my skin out more than it keeps it moisturized.
Maybe I will start bringing up a wet cloth and dry towel so I can wipe my hands before I touch the tape. The issue is if I apply vaseline on my shaft to prevent skin cracking, then each time I take off my underwrap and re-wrap, I am touching my vaseline covered shaft, which of course eats away at the adhesive on the tape.
Another idea could be to not take my wrap off, but I like to massage my penis and eat it up between sets. I think I'll try the cloth.
boohoohoo;541242 said:
That's strange. Maybe you just have to wait for him to manually okay your account on his forum. I think that may be the case.
As for the confirmation, I seem to recall getting an instructional email (how to progress in sets and weight) after the order was confirmed. It took about 1.5-2 weeks to get to me (Canada) once I paid for it.
Check your spam folders and email again in a couple days. You should have gotten an email that tells you how to hang properly.
Also wait a couple days for Bib to confirm your registration to his forum.
If all else fails in a couple days, you can always email him. I'm pretty sure his email is given at his site, but if not, ask me again in a PM and I'll give you it.
He's an honest guy so I wouldn't worry about being ripped off. He answers my questions on his forum daily.
I guess you don't want to wait for it to heal, huh?