MikeShlort;537901 said:
No, it is purely carnal. I always go for as long as possible without masturbation, then break and jerk off excessively. I display this type of behaviour with anything that brings pleasure.

I don't put much stock, if any, into the theory that you need to masturbate before stretching. I believe it be harmful, if anything. In my experience, it does nothing but tighten the tunica and ligaments, the things you are trying to stretch. It puts the penis in a refractory state. (definition = unmanageable, stubborn) This is clearly the opposite state you want your penis to be in when stretching. you want to be in the pliable, maneuverable "jelly state".

Sometimes edging and ejaculation brings on the jelly state, but more times than not it is best to avoid it alltogether.

That is the point of stretching in this state. How do you see it as harmful specifically? During refractory period, or the recovery phase after orgasm during which it is physiologically impossible for an individual to have additional orgasms or erection, it is a perfect time to stretch. The state is jelly like and of natural fatigue, very malleable in my opinion. I state this as being a perfect time to stretch as the penis is in a state of fatigue only achievable through orgasm. All other fatigue would be constituted as training to failure or pre-exausting structures prior to stretching, the whole basic of DLD Blasters.
 
Ya but training to failure is a technique used to build muscles mass, not stretch tendon and ligaments. I agree that the restriction of an erection would hinder maximum stretch capabilities, but also the restriction of tight ligs and tunica post-ejaculation does the same thing.

The ideal time to do any stretching, in my opinion, is when the penis is at is maximum pliability. This is the state your penis is in when your get your largest BPFSL measurement. For me personally, I get this state best after awhile with no ejaculation and after a good workout, especially legs. (testosterone producing workout). This is also the state when my erections are the largest/longest.

I find frequent night time erections, good cardio vascular health, leg/core strength and abundance of testosterone (ejaculation from masturbation depletes testosterone) is when I get the jelly state the most.

When I hang after jerking off, my penis is majorly fatigued, although it isn't necessarily being stretched to full length like it is when I am able to get a complete flaccid and hang a set.

Again, this is my opinion for my dick. My jelly state post ejaculation is not long enough for me to reap any benefits from it.
 
Mon March 11:

Remaining at 8.5lbs due to minor lig pull on left side

1 set BTC - 10 min - had to drop a big deuce halfway through set - interrupted
2 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq

4+ hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

4 sets BTC
20 min vaseline jelq

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblFQppJfyg
 
MikeShlort;537943 said:
Ya but training to failure is a technique used to build muscles mass, not stretch tendon and ligaments. I agree that the restriction of an erection would hinder maximum stretch capabilities, but also the restriction of tight ligs and tunica post-ejaculation does the same thing.

The ideal time to do any stretching, in my opinion, is when the penis is at is maximum pliability. This is the state your penis is in when your get your largest BPFSL measurement. For me personally, I get this state best after awhile with no ejaculation and after a good workout, especially legs. (testosterone producing workout). This is also the state when my erections are the largest/longest.

I find frequent night time erections, good cardio vascular health, leg/core strength and abundance of testosterone (ejaculation from masturbation depletes testosterone) is when I get the jelly state the most.

When I hang after jerking off, my penis is majorly fatigued, although it isn't necessarily being stretched to full length like it is when I am able to get a complete flaccid and hang a set.

Again, this is my opinion for my dick. My jelly state post ejaculation is not long enough for me to reap any benefits from it.

This is exactly the feeling that I have. After ejaculation my tunica is tight, everything is tight, and my penis feels "tough" in general. I've only gotten one good workout after masturbation.

However this could be due to edging for hours. I'd be interested to hear what people who masturbate quickly and then Penis Enlargement say.

But, if its supposed to be about fatigue then when I'm maximally fatigued I don't get good results.
 
I need to make a retraction - DLD I apologize: Fatigue is exactly what we are trying to achieve when stretching tendons and ligaments. I suppose training to failure is the equivalent to hanging 'til fatigue and past.

I just don't believe the "benefit" of ejaculating to achieve fatigue outweighs the negative physiological, psychological, and hormonal consequences.

Hepcat, I don't eat corn. Too sweet, hard on the body to break down, that's why it's passed in whole kernels. As for the nuts, yes, I drop big pints of nutty shit logs.
 
Wow.. The universe is trying to get me to jerk off... Fat asses in bathing suits in odd places, girls with 7 inches of plumbers crack in track pants - possibly no underwear. WTF. I also told a hot 40 something year old co-worker that I'm going to wear her around my neck for good luck without thinking how inappropriate it probably sounded. Funny nonetheless.

Tue March 12:

4+ hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
6 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq

Ridiculous erections all day (Wed), to say the least. Annoying.
 
Wed March 13:

4+ hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
6 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq
 
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MikeShlort;538099 said:
I need to make a retraction - DLD I apologize: Fatigue is exactly what we are trying to achieve when stretching tendons and ligaments. I suppose training to failure is the equivalent to hanging 'til fatigue and past.

I just don't believe the "benefit" of ejaculating to achieve fatigue outweighs the negative physiological, psychological, and hormonal consequences.

I would completely agree with you as I am someone who also believes that masturbation could have negative consequences. But, in my theory, the situation is set as, you have already shot off anyway so why not take advantage of this state and stretch. I advocate in the thread that men do not seek to masturbate to do this exercise, I state that if you have already had an emission then the state may be beneficial to those seeking length.
 
Fri March 15:

6 sets BTC

Sat March 16:

3+ hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
2 sets BTC

Sun March 17:

No Penis Enlargement
 
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Mon March 18:

2 sets BTC

Well I let my ligs heal up so now I am basically starting over again. Bet I even lost some length. But what can you do when your back is fucked, you're sick and keep having to work extra shifts all at once? Eat dick, is what. Hey shit eating cement lifter, I suck life's dick everyday too! Really makes me feel proud of myself, can see why you would gloat over a thing like that. You're definitely not retarded and I respect your ability to adequately memorize scales in 14 years.
 
MikeShlort;539269 said:
Mon March 18:

2 sets BTC

Well I let my ligs heal up so now I am basically starting over again. Bet I even lost some length. But what can you do when your back is fucked, you're sick and keep having to work extra shifts all at once? Eat dick, is what. Hey shit eating cement lifter, I suck life's dick everyday too! Really makes me feel proud of myself, can see why you would gloat over a thing like that. You're definitely not retarded and I respect your ability to adequately memorize scales in 14 years.

You've not got to start all over again buddy. I highly doubt months of work goes down the pan when you miss a few days of hanging. Otherwise nobody would have made any gains. Life gets in the way. Nobody on here has done penis enlargement every single day since they started and not missed one workout. Life happens. You just have to keep plugging away man.
 
Thanks. What I really meant is I have to start over again at 8.5lbs. I was hoping to move up in weight this week, but I will have to finish this week off at 8.5lbs and also do next week at 8.5lbs.

Tues March 19:

3 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq
 
Medicating;539285 said:
I highly doubt months of work goes down the pan when you miss a few days of hanging. Otherwise nobody would have made any gains.

True. It does suck to miss some training as it throws me off of momentum and I too sometimes fear I may have lost some of what I gained because I missed a number of days. SOmetimes you do lose temporary gains but never permanent and the temp gains lost are quickly recovered once the routine is started again regularly.
 
Yes. The annoying part is my ligs have healed and I am no longer feeling fatigue. Very annoying. Basically will be put a week behind schedule from missing a couple days.
 
Thurs March 21:

3 sets BTC

Went to bed - tired. 6 sets in a row at night = no more. Sick of it. Only days I will be doing that again is Sundays.
 
So, I have altered my hanging significantly due to back problems.

Hanging BTC in a computer chair with your feet up on a higher surface gives the perfect angle for BTC ligament stretch. But it destroys your back. Maybe if I had started with a pillow under my back it wouldn't have caused so much damage, but I still think having your neck bent and just being in that position for 3 hours a day is bad, pillow or not.

So I have created a revised BTC hanging position.

Before: Slouched over in computer chair, feet up on bed (bed is higher up than computer chair)

Now: Lying flat on bed (sideways). Ass is hanging over edge of bed, feet up on a wooden box (about a foot shorter than bed). Ideally, I'd like to have something that is taller than my bed to put my feet up on, but I don't have anything. So this will have to do.

The new position gives on okay stretch, not as great as the position before, but since it is at a slightly different angle, it will be targeting slightly differently, and the fatigue will not be felt for awhile. I have to work the new angle before I can feel fatigue.

Also, I will be doing a lot of SD standing. Probably more SD standing than BTC. Ideally, I would have all my sets BTC, but frankly, I am fucking sick of Penis Enlargement consuming my free time. I can do more things SD standing - lying on back BTC, all I can do is read.

I'm not going to bother keeping track of how many BTC and how many SD standing sets I did each day - I will just record the number of sets. While it is significant, I don't care enough to remember all that. Just assume that I am splitting it 70/30, the former being SD standing.

I notice a decent stretch anyways with SD standing, and as I said, I can actually work on something while I am hanging so it will allow for longevity of hanging, even if the results may be a bit slower than proper BTC hanging. But to give myself lifetime back problems for an extra inch of dick when I already have a nice sized dick would be pretty foolish. Hopefully the damage I have already done to my back will go away with proper treatment.

I will be starting testicle massages as well. And kegels next week. Going for 7.75x6.25. Currently 7.25x5.75.
 
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