Thanks for sharing, very useful info.

MikeShlort;497904 said:
Pumping Routines:

Here's the routines that gave me that 1.5" girth pump and gave me about a .4" permanent girth gain from 2.5 months of doing these routines.

************DISCLAIMER - Tying off, clamping, or using cock rings can be dangerous if improperly used. Always monitor your penis when using such methods. Keep in mind that I did a progressive approach to tying off, starting with an hour, then advancing to the whole night. I also wake often throughout the night, so I was able to check my penis. Never tie off tight enough to restrict blood flow. I was able to get erections and urinate while tied off, so it was not that tight.
TYING OFF IS NOT CRUCIAL TO GAINING WITH THIS ROUTINE. IT JUST GIVES A PROLONGED PUMP AND ALLOWS YOU TO HEAL IN THE EXPANDED STATE. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF HOW TO SAFELY INCORPORATE TYING OFF INTO THIS ROUTINE THEN AVOID DOING IT.
ALSO AVOID OVER PUMPING IF YOU ARE BEGINNING. GRADUALLY INCREASE INTENSITY LIKE ALL Penis Enlargement EXERCISES.************

*****The most important reason why I had that 1.5" pump is because immediately after my last [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] set, I would dry off and tie a bathrobe cord around my balls and penis. Then I'd go to bed. I'd get nighttime erections all night while I was tied off (i imagine you can clamp off or use a cock ring) and the girth stayed all night until I took off the cord. Even after I took off the cord, it slowly decreased back to around 6" girth (my size when I was pumping regularly) but was still fat for a couple hours.*******

I've just cut and pasted form another forum where i posted these exercises to help a newb. I can't take credit for the last one, it's Dan Clizers routine. He gained 1.5" permanent girth in 10 months of pumping with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words].

first routine: I suggest doing this routine for two months, or until you stop noticing gains. But you should continue to notice gains if you keep upping the intensity.
- Start off with a warm up
- Do 200 regular jelqs
- Pump for 5 minutes - start off low pressure but throughout the 5 minutes, keep pumping to add pressure. Don't go fast, do what you can handle. If you pump too much too quickly, you'll just be wasting your time and making your dick hurt the next day, which fucks up your next workout. I would say don't get to full pressure on the pump until a week into this routine
- Do 100 slow jelqs
- Do 150 jelqs at various angles (down, to the side, up etc) and various speeds
- Pump for 5 minutes
- Do 100 regular jelqs

** Make sure you are 95%-100% erect when jelqing and when you're sliding into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and pumping.

Now here is the most important part of this routine:
Each night, Add this to the routine:
- 10 more regular jelqs
- 15 seconds more of time in the pump
- 5 more slow jelqs
- 5 more jelqs at various angles
- 15 seconds more time in the pump
- 10 more regular jelqs

In time, this routine will take long. After a few weeks, you could add a third set of pumping at the end, after the regular jelqs. Just stay in the pump for whatever time you happen to be at after the 15 second increments. (Should be around 8.5 minutes after two weeks)

I'd do this routine until you're at 15-20 minutes at a time in the pump. You can add more reps/minutes in pump as you see fit once you get the hang of it and your body clues (your penis telling you that it can handle more and will gain from it)

Second routine:

This is after you've stopped gaining with that routine - and give the first routine a fair go. Do it proper and stick to it.

300 jelqs
6 minutes in pump, followed by 1 minute out of the pump, then back into the pump again for 6 minutes. Do 6 sets of 6.
At the end, do 600 jelqs (or more if you feel you can handle it and won't be over training).
You can mix it up by doing some jelqs in between sets if you want. Note that the pump in your penis will go down during this time, but it's still good to get in jelqs between sets then back into the pump.
You can add more time to the 6 minute sets, or add more sets, in time
You can do this routine twice a day, or three times a day, in time. IF your body can take it. Over training is worse than under training.

These are pretty basic pumping/jelqing routines.
A user here put it best (stillwantmore2):
"Pumping is what should be done after all the real girth work has been done"
After time, you can get into clamping
Check out all the other advanced manual girth exercises. There is more than just jelqing. But this is with time.

WHY NOT MILK GAINING WITH SIMPLE ROUTINES AND EXERCISES WHILE YOU CAN?? NO SENSE JUMPING INTO ADVANCED STUFF WHEN YOU CAN GAIN WITH SIMPLE EXERCISES.
This is the most important idea of Penis Enlargement.

*** With the 6 sets of 6 minutes routine, jelqing in between pumping sets is a great way to reduce or eliminate fluid retention, if you find you're getting that problem. ***
 
Powersnake12;536973 said:
Masturbate but don't ejaculate.

Practice non-ejaculatory orgasms and you won't have the come down from the change in brain chemistry when you ejaculate.

And don't look at my avatar. ;)

How did you learn 'non-ejaculatory orgasms'?
 
Medicating;536979 said:
How did you learn 'non-ejaculatory orgasms'?

I read The Multi-Orgasmic Man by Mantak Chia

I highly recommend the book to any man that wants to harness the sexual energy he creates during arousal, coitus and masturbation and channel it to revive, protect and increase your health and vitality.

Once you master the breathing and energy moving techniques you can experience multiple orgasms without ejaculating.

Sometimes they can even become whole body orgasms.

I can last as long as my wife can take it.

Study hard, your women will thank you.

Cheers.
 
Powersnake, you're just a wealth of information. Thanks man.

And thanks for participating in my thread guys, really makes this thread full of good info and interesting as well.

Hepcat.. It's the other way around. Gotta hold out all the time, otherwise I'll be jerking off 5 times a day. You of all people should understand the mentality.

I think I'll stick to what i was trying before - just hump the bed if I feel the need to masturbate. I want my penis to forget about the perfect feel of my hand. Maybe I'll consider what powersnake and medicating said and "masturbate but don't ejaculate" (sounds like Johnny Cochran) with my mattress. I'll check out that book too.


Well, it ended up being 5 times I masturbated in 12 hours. Was drained at first, felt weak, lethargic etc.. The usual. Good news - within a few hours, I was getting erections trying to put on my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and now I am getting erections trying to wrap for hanging. I guess the supplements I'm taking and the testosterone producing focused training is sticking in there. Plus the little bit of kegeling I've been doing.

Imagine if I became a man that could blast my girl 5 times in 12 hours with good wood each time... I think that would be a real man achievement.

Other good news is I was lifting shit at work after a couple hours as if all the ejaculating hadn't really happened. And each load was a full one to boot. So I came out of it pretty good I would say, bad pun and all.
 
hepcat;537079 said:
Mikey, are you telling me you're jacking it at work? Haha! Nothing better than getting paid to jerk off or take a shit on their time.:)

Also, I didn't know you would jack it 5x/day even if you were already masturbating daily. I would get bored and feel bad about myself if I did it that much.<:( You can find a happy medium I believe.

No, I didn't jack it at work. Masturbation is lame and to be avoided, once per day or 5 times per day. I need to stop for awhile then look for a womanhole.
 
Medicating;537192 said:
Did you end up being able to last longer?

Nope. I've been able to go up to an hour since day one. When I was 20 I once went two hours of sex without ejaculating. I average about 30 to 45 minutes these days of actual penetration but that's because my gf collapses after orgasm.
 
neognostic;537227 said:
Nope. I've been able to go up to an hour since day one. When I was 20 I once went two hours of sex without ejaculating. I average about 30 to 45 minutes these days of actual penetration but that's because my gf collapses after orgasm.

I think I average about 10 minutes maybe. But I suppose it's alright as her legs start shaking after about 7. 30-45 minutes sounds knackering. I wouldn't mind that though! I'll get there in the end.

I attribute my quite low [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] to the fact that I masturbated in the shower from 8/9 years old, until about 14. I wanted it to be all hush hush, so I tried to do it quite quickly. I never went over 5 minutes really. So learning to go longer has proven somewhat difficult. Although, I did last a very long time with an ex girlfriend of mine. We would always have sex for ages. She would orgasm up to 14 times each session (We counted once). Every other girl I've ever been with gets sore after 2-3 orgasms.

How long do you last with your FLight?
 
Medicating;537248 said:
I think I average about 10 minutes maybe. But I suppose it's alright as her legs start shaking after about 7. 30-45 minutes sounds knackering. I wouldn't mind that though! I'll get there in the end.

I attribute my quite low [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] to the fact that I masturbated in the shower from 8/9 years old, until about 14. I wanted it to be all hush hush, so I tried to do it quite quickly. I never went over 5 minutes really. So learning to go longer has proven somewhat difficult. Although, I did last a very long time with an ex girlfriend of mine. We would always have sex for ages. She would orgasm up to 14 times each session (We counted once). Every other girl I've ever been with gets sore after 2-3 orgasms.

How long do you last with your FLight?

What's that ex girlfriend's number? lol
 
Sounds like the one who got away, Med.

Thurs March 7:

3-3.5 hrs [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]

6 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq - went a bit too hard, awoke with superficial skin bruises which have since vanished.

My EQ is incredible. I'm taking the 5 Gs supplements (will find link later) and I get hard at the gym, putting on the hanger, at night, etc. And my cock's getting bigger. Awesome. 8.5 lbs is good.
 
MikeShlort;537333 said:
Sounds like the one who got away, Med.

Eh, it was fun while it lasted. She did send me text messages saying my penis was massive near enough every day though. I still hold her in high regard for that haha. Don't get why I lasted ages with her and not long with others though. Sex and its mysteries!
 
Medicating;537389 said:
Eh, it was fun while it lasted. She did send me text messages saying my penis was massive near enough every day though. I still hold her in high regard for that haha. Don't get why I lasted ages with her and not long with others though. Sex and its mysteries!

Metaphysical connection

Fri March 8:

4 sets BTC

3 sets BTC
15 min vaseline jelq - mostly flaccid, penis is tired. Night

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwDadBnqyVg
 
Sun March 10:

3 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq
3 sets BTC
10 min vaseline jelq

My EQ is stupid. Started taking the 5 Gs (http://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/10786-five-gs-big-erections.html) as well as working out and my erections are abundant and annoying. I jerked off 5 times in a 12 hour span, and although I had the aid of hot adult entertainment, I was 100% hard each time, big penis, big loads. And I still kept getting boners while I was trying to wrap to hang later that day.

Hope it keeps up.
 
thependulum;537898 said:
Why do you jerk off so much? Is it to try and fatigue yourself so you can stretch ?

No, it is purely carnal. I always go for as long as possible without masturbation, then break and jerk off excessively. I display this type of behaviour with anything that brings pleasure.

I don't put much stock, if any, into the theory that you need to masturbate before stretching. I believe it be harmful, if anything. In my experience, it does nothing but tighten the tunica and ligaments, the things you are trying to stretch. It puts the penis in a refractory state. (definition = unmanageable, stubborn) This is clearly the opposite state you want your penis to be in when stretching. you want to be in the pliable, maneuverable "jelly state".

Sometimes edging and ejaculation brings on the jelly state, but more times than not it is best to avoid it alltogether.

If I had the option of fucking 5 times a day, I would. Supposedly, it helps produce testosterone, and from my experience, it leaves the penis rejuvenated, as opposed to worked and fatigued. Just goes to show there is a metaphysical connection between humans if two different actions that produce the same function leaves a different physiological outcome.

I have to go bang out a huge deuce.
 
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