makemebig;498981 said:
I commend you on your risky routine. However, I think you might want to consider adding more weight to your hanging session. I do not think 3 lbs will accomplish much. I was hanging three lbs from my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] which I would wear for 2 to 3 hours at a time. For hanging, I think you should be moving up to 10 lbs or more. When I was hanging, I moved up to 13 lbs over a two month period after starting with 5 lbs.

I agree completely man, but I am taking it slow. I want to milk all possible gains with lower weight. I have virtually no experience with hanging so I am going to follow it by the book (according to Bib's method). I think my max amount of sets in a day will be 4 sets of 20 min (maybe the odd 5-6 sets on the weekend or something, broken up throughout the day), which I have reached today. Then I will increase to 4 lbs, see how it feels etc. I'm going to be in this for awhile so I want to just milk the low weight gains. I can feel a stretch with 3 lbs when I sit in a chair and hang, so I'll keep at it.
Plus, I still need to stretch the skin, no point doing this with high weight. The attachment point is still kinda hurting, still hurts to put this hanger on as tight as it needs to be so I'm gonna go slow. I read a thing by Big Al talking about conservative progression (not progressive conservatives) and I believe in it. It's been working for me for weight lifting, as well as for BPFSL gains.

Hanging concerns me out of all the procedures I do for my penis. It hurts like hell, it makes my penis fall asleep and feel tingly/numb even the next day (malehanger of pegym tells me this feeling will go away eventually) and worst of all, it makes my penis concave, having indents in the tissue where the hanger sits (inconveniently in the spot where my penis is already naturally concave and less in girth than the rest of my penis - something I will have to fix once my goals are met.) It even stays like this while erect. So I'm just gonna take it slow and by the book. But thank you for your advice. I definitely agree with you that more weight will give me gains. But I am hopeful it will still give me as much gains if I get there slowly.

PS - Anyone have any ways of correcting the area where I have less girth than the rest of my shaft? It's about 1/3 of the way up, between the base and half way point, it's like concave compared to the rest of my dick. It measures 5.54" while the top measures 5.8" in girth. Squeezes, double sided jelqing, pumping? Anyone know? Thanks
 
Here is the email instructing how to use the bib hanger I received:

"The padding on the hangers now comes treated with talc. Do not wash off this white powder. Simply use the hanger, and allow the talc to rub off in due course.

If you ordered Theraband, use sharp scissors or nippers to cut it into four, 1.5 inch strips, or three, 2 inch strips. Usually, 15-18 inches is enough. There is a good thread on wrapping at the top of the hanger's forum at Thunder's Place, and a movie on wrapping in the tutorials section of Thunder's.

The product guide is located on the Bib_Hanger website. Much good information and support can be found in the hanger's sections of Thunders and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Also, The Bib Hanger's forum has been open for a while. It has also accumulated good information. For the link to my forum, please go to the Bib website. If I put the link in these notification emails, the email systems sometimes kick the emails to junk or spam folders.

Please remember this: You must start at a low weight, 2-5 lbs, for 2-3 sets only. (Sets should be no more than 20 minutes long, with 10 minute rest periods in between, to return full circulation.) Then, add sets until you reach your available privacy time (max 4 hours, twelve 20 minute sets). Only add one new set each week. Then after reaching your time maximum, you can begin to add weight, about 15% each week, until you reach fatigue within the first set or two. That weight is what I call the current max weight. Then, reduce the weight in subsequent sets as needed to remain comfortable.

From there, only increase your max weight when you no longer reach fatigue within the first set or two. Also do this slowly, increasing your max weight only 15% per week.

Please don't start out at high weights, and do not increase weight more than 15% each week. The soft tissues, skin, nerves, blood vessels, smooth muscle, must have time to adapt. Further, you must learn how the hanger works, and it is much safer, and easier to do this at lower weight. You can then adapt your technique as weight goes up.

Also, learn the differences in what you are feeling. When there is discomfort, learn to identify the discomfort, exactly where it is, what the problem is. There is good discomfort from tissue deformation, and bad discomfort from faulty hanging technique.

Anytime you have skin irritation, do not stop hanging completely. Cut back on the number of sets and/or weight, but do not stop. If you stop, the skin will quickly lose conditioning. If you keep going, it will adapt.

If you have any problems, please do not hesitate to email or post on the forums. Also, please let me know how it works for you.

Thanks and get busy,

Bigger"
 
doublelongdaddy;498910 said:
You do deserve it and it will come to you. You are putting in the work, you are taking risks, you are helping others, you are doing GREAT!

Thanks DLD, hopefully someone can find use for my routines and observations and gain with it
 
Testicle massage.
Around 6 hours of extending.

Hit gym (back). Went light. Strained something in my back, finished workout, did not work stomach, did not go hard after the strain in my back (due to over zealous dead lifting and coming back from missing a week). However, did lift properly with good form, finished my back routine. Had a decent pump at the end, back looked nice (although covered by a thin layer of body fat that must be destroyed - any suggestions?)

15 minute manual session.
Stated hanging immediately after. 4 sets of 20 minutes 3lbs. Alternated from bib original to bib starter each set. 4 sets (3lbs) is most amount of sets I've done in a day. I think I will try 4 lbs tomorrow (4 sets). We'll see how she goes.

Just finished last hanging set now. I take long rests between sets because it wreaks havoc on my penis (hurts, tingly, leaves indent, making it concave etc)

Got my bib starter today. I feel it pinches me in the teeth of it (I hear guys over 5.5" EG have trouble with it, and I have loose penis skin due to pumping) but I like the fact that more of my shaft is exposed therefore I get a better hang. I will continue to just hang with both hangers. Each hanger has its ups and downs but I imagine I will get more skilled with them as I progress.

Pecker is spent. There will be no jelqing today. Probably could not even get an erection right now, going to bed very soon. Applying heating pad for 15-20 min then going to bed. Tomorrow morning I will try to jelq after waking.

Here is the track of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyWaf7oc_Tw
 
Looking good Mike!
Just take the hanging process slow. Milk everything you can out those low weights.
What angle you use for hanging?
 
KingCobra;499049 said:
Looking good Mike!
Just take the hanging process slow. Milk everything you can out those low weights.
What angle you use for hanging?

Straight down sitting in a computer chair and straight down standing up.

Between the cheeks hurts too much on the skin stretch for me still.
 
MikeShlort;499013 said:
Thanks dude, I appreciate the comradery. We have similar stats, except unfortunately I have a .9" fat pad, so my 7.8 BPenis EnlargementL is only a 6.9 NBPenis EnlargementL.

Also, do you (and everyone else) sit down when you measure or stand? What is the standard? Because when I stand, my fat pad is only .5" but my length shrinks by at least .25".

It's really a bitch trying to gain mass while doing Penis Enlargement because of the pelvic fat, such a hard region to lose fat. And to make matters worse, I wear an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] at work all week, so that makes it so I can't utilize my core when working and do lifts and bends that would help tone it up, so I grow even more fat. :(

Oh well. Penis size increase is #1 on my list of priorities.

PS - Anyone have any methods on losing body fat without losing muscle mass? (Diet, certain exercises etc)

I didn't think you looked like you had much of a fat pad.

I always stand, but I don't know if it makes a difference for me.

Try some heavy kettlebell swings. Works the entire posterior chain and people say its the best exercise to lose fat w/o losing muscle.
 
Testicle massage
300 wet jelqs in shower
1 set hanging 4lbs 20 min

No [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] today due to my pecker hurting like fuck and having to do hand-and-knees stuff at work. Wearing my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] the amount of time I do while working fucks up my back. If I wear it down left leg, right side of back will hurt, vice versa. Can't win. Stretching on bed/in pool helps.

Hit gym (legs). Fatigue of two weeks of inconsistency catching up. Getting back into going hard each day. Only worked legs, low weight, back hurt. Completed my basic leg workout. Feel good now, definitely am building up strength from the ground up. 187lbs is not a bad place to be starting building from the ground up.

15 min manual stretch session
3 sets of hanging, 4lbs, 20 min sets.

My pecker feels like shit, kinda numb, tingly, sore, can I even get an erection? I guess the joys of hanging.

Track of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
 
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MikeShlort;499192 said:
Testicle massage
300 wet jelqs in shower
1 set hanging 4lbs 20 min

No [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] today due to my pecker hurting like fuck and having to do hand-and-knees stuff at work. Wearing my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] the amount of time I do while working fucks up my back. If I wear it down left leg, right side of back will hurt, vice versa. Can't win. Stretching on bed/in pool helps.

Hit gym (legs). Fatigue of two weeks of inconsistency catching up. Getting back into going hard each day. Only worked legs, low weight, back hurt. Completed my basic leg workout. Feel good now, definitely am building up strength from the ground up. 187lbs is not a bad place to be starting building from the ground up.

15 min manual stretch session
3 sets of hanging, 4lbs, 20 min sets.

My pecker feels like shit, kinda numb, tingly, sore, can I even get an erection? I guess the joys of hanging.

Track of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA


Maybe take a day off to let things rest a bit. I hate taking days off but sometimes, when there is too much soreness, it is best.
 
Tuesday was my last Penis Enlargement day.

Legs Wednesday.

55km bike Thursday. PGE1 dose (26). Lasted a long time, went to bed after 1.5 hours of being hard, woke up 5 hours later still hard. Dick hurt. Due to being hard too long and being numb from improper hanging.

Friday and Saturday = fuck all.

I have been jerking it since Wednesday. Failed week. Silver lining is my erections are still big even though I just keep jackin it. This leads me to believe that when I get a female, I will be able to give her multiple shlortings of good EQ. I was concerned for a long time that after the first nut, my penis would be tiny after and EQ horrible, but seems not the case. I suspect the PGE1 is helping that a lot. It's getting closer and closer to the time to find me a hooker hoe. (Here's a thread of my theory on masturbating effecting gains, which I still believe in BTW: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?67354-Why-Some-Men-Don-t-Gain-A-MikeShlort-Theory *** there are some very very helpful posts on this thread about hanging, so read it through all the way ****)

My penis has been numb/tingly since Monday or before due to improper hanging technique. I attached the hanger too tight. Shit's still numb and tingly. Really worried me, still kinda worried. Have like a discoloration/bruise on my head that is still there. My head hurts when I grip it. Needless to say, no Penis Enlargement.

Here is the post of my questions to Bib (maker of my bib hangers). Seems I was given misinformation by some hangers - they told me to tighten it literally as far as the wing nuts would go - what they didn't tell me is that is for advanced hangers and you must gradually tighten - to discomfort only - to develop the tissues. Like the knucklehead I am, I tightened the fucking thing like a vice and now my winkle hurts and is numb still 4 days after no Penis Enlargement.

http://www.bibhanger.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1780
(lots of good info for newb hangers BTW, I asked all the questions I could not find straight answers to)



Wednesday I went to the doctor for more PGE1 and a checkup. (See this thread for more information he gave me during a visit a few months ago: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eryone-Should-Read-This!!&p=484204#post484204)

I told him I started hanging. He told me that hangers that grip like a vice are quite damaging. He suggested a vacuum hanger and showed me one and how it is put on. He told me most of his patient's gains started to cease once they added hanging to the PGE1 protocol. He suggests around 6 one-two minute pulls throughout the day, in the downward direction. (manual stretches)

He also told me that having over 2 hours of erect time is bad because it causes inflammation of the penis and can cause fibrosis. He told me that if I stretch after a dose (after erection subsides) and it is sore, then I have gone too long. He said there will be some soreness because having an erection for 1.5-2 hours will cause any man fatigue, but if it's a noticeable pain in the penis after it goes down, then that's been too long. I know what he is talking about. It's the "good soreness" you want, like in weight lifting.

Very frustrating all the contradicting information I get from people who Penis Enlargement. I contemplated it for a few hours, and rather than get pissed off about it and try to piece together all this conflicting information I get, I came up with a general explanation: Different things work for different people, in different phases of their Penis Enlargement career.

Rather than go into great detail and cite all the conflicting information, I will just do this:

Revert to the routine I was doing just prior to starting the PGE1 doses

- manual stretching sessions (15-20 min) once to twice daily
- 6 one-two minute downward stretches throughout the day (may throw in some other directions if I have time)
- wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4-8 hours a day
- light jelqing if I have time and I feel it will be beneficial.

I DO NOT want to gain any girth. In fact, I want my penis to become stretchy and long, rather than short, thick and not budging.

I will continue with this routine for the next 20 doses of PGE1. I am basically following doctors recommendations for these next 20 doses and see if I gain anything. I think it's wise anyways to not start hanging and doing PGE1 doses at the same time, because scientifically, it will be hard to distinguish what is actually giving me the gains. So this will be the best way to monitor how effective the PGE1 is at doses that cause engorgement for under two hours.

I'm going to use all the Dr.'s theories:

Low erection time to reduce inflammation
No hanging, because it is harmful to the penis and slows gaining during the PGE1 phase
Lots of short sets of SD stretches through out the day
Can still do at least one long set of manual stretching in the day


If I gain on this routine, I will continue with it, milk it until I stop seeing gains. Why not gain from the least amount of work and force if I can, right?
I think this approach is the most logical and scientific.

Before I start getting any angry posts:

1. I realize hanging is a great way of gaining. I feel longer already from the two weeks I hung.
2. I realize it is probably better to have long engorgement times while on PGE1. Ronielle gained by going all out and that seems what you have to do for Penis Enlargement to work.

I just want to listen to this guy who is very credible, do exactly what he suggests. Worst case scenario: I gain nothing these next 20 doses. I go back to him, tell him this, and plan a next move. (I would suggest longer erect times and to add hanging in the mix)

After the 20 doses, if I have not gained, I will FIRST:

Add hanging, but with a vacuum hanger. I will save the bib hanger for when I need to start hanging over 20 lbs.

****No, I don't think the bib is a bad product. I'd return it if I did. And I realize that once I start needing the bib, I will have to start with lower weight than 20 lbs to build my tissue at the attachment point. I will likely have to start hanging with bib hanger simultaneously with the vac hanger once I start to see that I am getting to the threshold of the vac hanger. I've read most gains happen under 20lbs anyways, so in theory, most of my gaining should be achieved with the vac hanger, which is safe on my penis. Only thing I am worried about is the vac hanger will suck and only give skin stretch. I guess we shall see.****

I will give myself a good 1.5 months of hanging before I measure again. Then, if I have still not gained, I will increase my injections and go for a 2+ hour dose, eventually getting to the 4-5 hour mark (15 hours a week) that Ronielle suggests and that Petersouth employs. I will be keeping a close eye on Mr. South during these next 20 doses.

In shlort, I am very frustrated and feel like I am being held back when I want to be off to the races and just start givin'r, but it does make sense to slowly progress and add a method in slowly to be able to accurately track which technique is contributing to gains.

My dick is still kinda numb and painful at the head, so I probably won't start back up on my Penis Enlargement work until Sunday night, or even Monday.
I will be doing a PGE1 dose (24) on Sunday night.

The positive thing is I haven't Penis Enlargement'd since Tuesday (excluding 1 PGE1 dose Thursday) and I have been jerking off maniacally since Wednesday, and I did not work out yesterday or today and I still have the same size as before (check pictures) with a weaker penis so at least I haven't lost much, if anything. And I'm realizing my pecker ain't so bad after all. Few months from now I might have to buy it a 110lb hat.
 
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MikeShlort;501198 said:
My prick head is still kinda numb and tingly/sore when I squeeze it. WTF. Been a week nearly.....

No Penis Enlargement. No PGE1 either. Need rest.

Track of the Day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p2HOXBRsVA


This may just be some minor nerve irritation, it may feel this way until it completely heals. I don't think it should stand in the way of your training though, just my personal opinion.
 
Really? It's been a full week and still is numbish and sore when I squeeze the head. Have you ever heard of anyone having something like that for this long?

It's really quite alarming, definitely don't want to have a numb head.

BTW, it was from the hanging. When I would take off the hanger, the part above my hanger (glans and first inch below glans) would be puffy, kinda like fluid retention. I imagine what happened was the hanger was so tight, it cut off circulation to the glans, but I just kept on hanging for like two, three days, and now it's been damaged. My glans would be purple when I was hanging.

Do you think this will heal back to normal or should I be worried? A full week of being numb is very alarming.
 
MikeShlort;501336 said:
Really? It's been a full week and still is numbish and sore when I squeeze the head. Have you ever heard of anyone having something like that for this long?

It's really quite alarming, definitely don't want to have a numb head.

BTW, it was from the hanging. When I would take off the hanger, the part above my hanger (glans and first inch below glans) would be puffy, kinda like fluid retention. I imagine what happened was the hanger was so tight, it cut off circulation to the glans, but I just kept on hanging for like two, three days, and now it's been damaged. My glans would be purple when I was hanging.

Do you think this will heal back to normal or should I be worried? A full week of being numb is very alarming.

It has happened to me and it stuck around for a month or two and when I did have this issue it was when I was hanging. As I said, I never took time off, it just eventually went away. I have not hung since that time aside from light [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] hanging.
 
MikeShlort;501355 said:
Cool. Did you find the sensitivity in your glans returned to normal eventually? I'd hate to lose sensitivity in my glans..


Completely. It lasted like 30-60 days maybe. It was long enough that I thought it would stick around but it went away. This still happens to me in very small ways where tingling, pain or temp. numbness occurs after long pe or sex. I got used to the idea that there is going to be big changes when doing Penis Enlargement, some pleasant some not so much. All in all, when I look at the big picture, it all worked out perfect.
 
Well, my prick head still kinda hurts and is numb. There are some light bruises/spots on the glans. Bugger.

I've been jerking off since last Wednesday. Everyday, multiple times. To cock sluts on the internet who take cocks in their filthy holes for cash. I don't know who is worse, me or them. Probably me, because at least they get to smoke crystal meth.

I've lost some length from this. Also no Penis Enlargement due to pain in glans. Flaccid stretch is definitely shorter, I believe it is from wanking and that it will probably go back to being more elastic once it gets some rest from being assaulted by my right hand. Erect size is smaller too, but I believe this is EQ related. My theory on jerking it holds true, but I didn't care, fuck it. I wanted to wank so I did. First time in over a year I jerked off for a week.

I wacked off once today. Then did a PGE1 shot (24) about 1.5 hours later at 10:30. 12:38 and I am still hard as fuck. At least 90%. 12:54 - going down slowly, still around 90% but dropping.

The more days I take off from PGE1, the more sensitive I become to it, and vice versa. I will do a 22 dose on Thursday, I want to keep the erections under 2 hours, as per doctors advisement. I know I am going to be sore when this one goes down. Hurts already, but it's a good hurt.
No Penis Enlargement today. I will start manual stretching tomorrow, and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] once my glans doesn't hurt as much.

I have 18 doses of the PGE1 left until I need to re-up. That's about 6 weeks. Over that time, I will only do manuals, extending, jelqing and maybe some kettle bell stretches with the PGE1. See if I gain anything. I am gunning for at least 8 BPenis EnlargementL in that time. We'll say I'm 7.8 BPenis EnlargementL now (going by pictures). I measured at 8 BPenis EnlargementL last week during my torrid affair with my right hand and internet adult entertainment, but that could be because of EQ (never measured with adult entertainment before) and also measuring technique. I am gunning for that .2 BPenis EnlargementL gain though. Wish me luck.

This stuff is great. My dick turns small after I wack off, every time. But here I am, with a raging hard on. If this shit doesn't give me prostate cancer, I will consider myself one of the luckier men on earth for coming across it. Too bad I'm not close with any females I care for, I'd give them the best 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL rogering they've ever had. Oh well. This sucker will grow. And I will harass them constantly.
 
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