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longfatdaddy;546860 said:
i go in the gaitor fully erect and it stays the same while im in the gaitor but after when i finish and take the penoment off my penis is a long flappy semi erect/semi flaccid penis and for now i dont see any real expansion after pumping...

It's the same for me, when I come out of the pump I'm semi-hard and usually somewhat discolored...purple, camouflage-type markings that go away when I do my manual exercises. But when you get expansion, you'll start to notice that when you stimulate yourself back to a full erection you can feel the chambers in your dick are wider and harder than before...that's how it functions as an "erection enhancer," at least for me.

I didn't really see any expansion my first few times pumping either, but there are a lot of variables to consider with that...which gaiter are you using? How long are you staying in the pump? How many sets? Is there any air in the chamber (ideally not)? Are you doing manual exercises, and if so, which ones?

There's a bit of a learning curve with the pump, but not a big one. Feel free to check out my thread on the Penomet for some ideas as you experiement.
 
redthorn;546919 said:
It's the same for me, when I come out of the pump I'm semi-hard and usually somewhat discolored...purple, camouflage-type markings that go away when I do my manual exercises. But when you get expansion, you'll start to notice that when you stimulate yourself back to a full erection you can feel the chambers in your dick are wider and harder than before...that's how it functions as an "erection enhancer," at least for me.

I didn't really see any expansion my first few times pumping either, but there are a lot of variables to consider with that...which gaiter are you using? How long are you staying in the pump? How many sets? Is there any air in the chamber (ideally not)? Are you doing manual exercises, and if so, which ones?

There's a bit of a learning curve with the pump, but not a big one. Feel free to check out my thread on the Penomet for some ideas as you experiement.

the gaiter im currently using is the force 60(purple gaiter) as this is my first time pumping so i wanted to ease into it instead of going over the top without knowing my limits... i havent started doing manual exercies yet as im new to pumping so i want to get my penis used to the pump and the effects of it and ill work manuals into it! i stay in the pump for 1 set 10 mins straight, penoment says 10 mins for the first week or 2 so im going by that guideline... i dont know if thats good or not? i dont think there is any air in the chamber... but how would i know if there is or isnt? and also ive tried wearing a cock ring but it isnt working for me... my penis goes back down to normal pretty much... is it maybe because ive just started pumping and havent seen any real expansion yet? when i wore a c-ring around my penis and balls that keeped me in pumped state more than the cock ring just as a side note...
 
Btw, DLD, I was just rereading through the routine again and what go me wondering is this:
How do the Hardcore Bathmate Stretches affect girth? I am sorry if the question is dumb, but aren't stretches for length? Is it more of a PC muscle fitness stuff? Cause if I want to do a only girth workout I am not sure if I should add them or not.

And another question:
How many girth exercises do you advise to be max added to the routine? For now I'm like doing- Pumping, SSJ-ing, maybe clamping, (massaging a little), and wearing a cock ring. Do you recommend adding more girth exercises. And is it true what redthorn said- that another pumping session during the day would be a no no since that would badly affect the healing process. I would be very very very thankful if you answer my questions. :)
 
longfatdaddy;546984 said:
the gaiter im currently using is the force 60(purple gaiter) as this is my first time pumping so i wanted to ease into it instead of going over the top without knowing my limits... i havent started doing manual exercies yet as im new to pumping so i want to get my penis used to the pump and the effects of it and ill work manuals into it! i stay in the pump for 1 set 10 mins straight, penoment says 10 mins for the first week or 2 so im going by that guideline... i dont know if thats good or not? i dont think there is any air in the chamber... but how would i know if there is or isnt? and also ive tried wearing a cock ring but it isnt working for me... my penis goes back down to normal pretty much... is it maybe because ive just started pumping and havent seen any real expansion yet? when i wore a c-ring around my penis and balls that keeped me in pumped state more than the cock ring just as a side note...

The purple is the weakest gaiter, so that might be why you're not seeing bigger temporary results. I found even the black was weaker than I wanted so I just use the grey (don't have the orange one yet). You could try using more powerful gaiters...what I suggest is just trying each one out and seeing if your dick can take the pressure. Do little 2-5 minutes sets in them and see if you get better results, and just work your way up.

You'll know if there is air in the chamber because you'll see it. If there are bubbles in the chamber, there's air.

And if you haven't seen any real temporary gains from pumping yet that's probably why the cock ring doesn't seem to be doing much...when you have big temporary gains the cock ring locks them in. I just wear it around my dick, myself, but use whatever works best for you.
 
Zambrodom3;547046 said:
Yeah, and just imagine when you get the green hulk gaiter in your hands LMAO. SWEET!

I hope my Bruce Banner Boner gets Hulk Huge:)
 
if one day, after I finish my length routine, I don't have time to take off and reapply Jim's wrap, should I let it there for 6 hours straight ?
 
redthorn;547044 said:
The purple is the weakest gaiter, so that might be why you're not seeing bigger temporary results. I found even the black was weaker than I wanted so I just use the grey (don't have the orange one yet). You could try using more powerful gaiters...what I suggest is just trying each one out and seeing if your dick can take the pressure. Do little 2-5 minutes sets in them and see if you get better results, and just work your way up.

You'll know if there is air in the chamber because you'll see it. If there are bubbles in the chamber, there's air.

And if you haven't seen any real temporary gains from pumping yet that's probably why the cock ring doesn't seem to be doing much...when you have big temporary gains the cock ring locks them in. I just wear it around my dick, myself, but use whatever works best for you.

ok so now ive been pumping for the last 5 days and i see i am nearly able to go a half inch further in the gaiter, and im feeling the expansion more and more as i use it... while i have jelqed in the past i havent done any girth work in the past 6 months so im like a newbie again and i want to use the purple gaiter to firstly not injure myself and then to condition my penis properly and make the maximum gains i can from the purple gaiter before moving up(i think DLD would agree with me on this one)???

by what you said i definitely dont have any air in my chamber which is good news :)

i bought a few different cock rings and i tried an adjustable one i have and it worked perfect! i stayed at about 70% erect state and in my pumped state i was the same girth as when i have a full erection which is good news as thats how i will grow :)

i think all in all to sum it up there is a learning curve with everything and if you are persistent enough you will get there in the end!

redthorn thanks for the help as you helped me understand the pumping a lot quicker! if i have any more questions ill be sure to post them here! and for me the chafing on my dick is the fucken worst even after half an hour i cant handle it anymore but i found a way to not have that problem as well so i can send you a pic of everything if you like cause i think i read somewhere in one of your posts that you have a problem with chafing correct me if wrong...

anyways i hope i am on the right path with my srt routine ive began officially from today... and the fun begins!!!!! :D
 
3cminlength;547084 said:
if one day, after I finish my length routine, I don't have time to take off and reapply Jim's wrap, should I let it there for 6 hours straight ?
Why wouldn't you be able to apply the wrap though? It only takes about 30 seconds to do it.
If for some reason,you can't apply your UJW I would suggest freeballing and doing as many stretches as possible during bathroom breaks, and/or try to keep a chubby in your sweats.
 
longfatdaddy;547187 said:
ok so now ive been pumping for the last 5 days and i see i am nearly able to go a half inch further in the gaiter, and im feeling the expansion more and more as i use it... while i have jelqed in the past i havent done any girth work in the past 6 months so im like a newbie again and i want to use the purple gaiter to firstly not injure myself and then to condition my penis properly and make the maximum gains i can from the purple gaiter before moving up(i think DLD would agree with me on this one)???

Yup, I wrote the Penomet workout on their site and it is all about super-sets with progressive increases in Gaiter Strength. The combinations are truly amazing. The sets are identical to those that would be done with the Bathmate or Hydromax but the difference is as the Super-sets advance the Gaiters are also changed to increase pressure, this brings progressive expansion much better than that of the Bathmate.

SuperShaft;547212 said:
Why wouldn't you be able to apply the wrap though? It only takes about 30 seconds to do it.
If for some reason,you can't apply your UJW I would suggest freeballing and doing as many stretches as possible during bathroom breaks, and/or try to keep a chubby in your sweats.


It is soooooo important to take off the wrap and reapply it. Not only for circulation but also to increase the effectiveness of the wrap itself. After about 30 minutes Uncle Jim's Wrap can tend to loosen, this is when I will go an re-wrap but before I do I get in a quick set of basic, angular stretching. Th9s serves to return good circulation and further the efforts of stretching and healing the penis by the reset of traction.
 
longfatdaddy;547187 said:
and for me the chafing on my dick is the fucken worst even after half an hour i cant handle it anymore but i found a way to not have that problem as well so i can send you a pic of everything if you like cause i think i read somewhere in one of your posts that you have a problem with chafing correct me if wrong...

Glad I was able to help, LFD :)

If you are getting good pressure/expansion from the purple then yeah by all means stick with that one and work your way up. Every guy is different. I think my dick is just naturally kind of "tough" which is why I wasn't really responding to standard jelqing even though I did it for months, so it's not surprising that I needed to start with a higher intensity gaiter.

As for the chaffing that isn't usually a problem for me until 4-5 hours. I have totally generic silicone ring. I would definitely be interested to know how you avoid chaffing, though...if I could keep it on longer I would!
 
Btw, guys, today I got my ACE bandage and when I tried to put it on when I am flaccid- it just turtled and just didn't work. So I got erect and put it on then. I am around 60% erect with the bandage and it really keeps my penis more stretched that it is usually, but I have some blood in my glans (and shaft) that is stuck there. Is it ok to wear the bandage like that or I must be completely flaccid??? :)

P.S- Now when I take a look my glans has slightly darkened its color or blue, but still hasn't reached purple and I have been only around 5 minutes with it. What should I do?
 
Zambrodom3;547258 said:
Btw, guys, today I got my ACE bandage and when I tried to put it on when I am flaccid- it just turtled and just didn't work. So I got erect and put it on then. I am around 60% erect with the bandage and it really keeps my penis more stretched that it is usually, but I have some blood in my glans (and shaft) that is stuck there. Is it ok to wear the bandage like that or I must be completely flaccid??? :)

P.S- Now when I take a look my glans has slightly darkened its color or blue, but still hasn't reached purple and I have been only around 5 minutes with it. What should I do?

Necessity is the Mother of Invention! I am happy it is working for you!
 
Just a quick question... how much time after it gets a little purplish should the bandage be reapplied. It doesn't feel THAT cold, but, yet, when I see it purple i freak out LMAO
 
Zambrodom3;547192 said:
LFD- can you send a link or tell where you got your rings :)

yeah ill send you the link. im in sydney, australia so i bought it off a sex shop website here in australia but i know 100% i seen these 2 cock rings on american websites(im not sure where you are location wise but you can definitely find them around) anyways ill post you the link so you can see which ones im using...

the first one is called lasso erection keeper http://www.sextoys247.com.au/lasso-erection-keeper.html
the second one is called silicone stud lasso http://www.sextoys247.com.au/silicone-stud-lasso-black.html
 
redthorn;547236 said:
Glad I was able to help, LFD :)

If you are getting good pressure/expansion from the purple then yeah by all means stick with that one and work your way up. Every guy is different. I think my dick is just naturally kind of "tough" which is why I wasn't really responding to standard jelqing even though I did it for months, so it's not surprising that I needed to start with a higher intensity gaiter.

As for the chaffing that isn't usually a problem for me until 4-5 hours. I have totally generic silicone ring. I would definitely be interested to know how you avoid chaffing, though...if I could keep it on longer I would!

ill inbox you and send you the photos and explain it how i do it, its a simple trick and stops chaffing and you have no marks of the silicone ring on the base of your penis which is good! as soon as i get a chance ill inbox you
 
doublelongdaddy;547227 said:
Yup, I wrote the Penomet workout on their site and it is all about super-sets with progressive increases in Gaiter Strength. The combinations are truly amazing. The sets are identical to those that would be done with the Bathmate or Hydromax but the difference is as the Super-sets advance the Gaiters are also changed to increase pressure, this brings progressive expansion much better than that of the Bathmate.

yeah i agree with you on this! although i think from memory you made the 5 mins Bathmate/5 mins SSJ/3 sets routine because in the Bathmate there would be water retention so you made that routine to avoid the water retention while giving you maximum expansion... i think with the penoment you could go 10 mins/5 mins SSJ/3 sets for sure as the penoment doesnt have any water retention but pure expansion...
 
longfatdaddy;547434 said:
doublelongdaddy;547227 said:
Yup, I wrote the Penomet workout on their site and it is all about super-sets with progressive increases in Gaiter Strength. The combinations are truly amazing. The sets are identical to those that would be done with the Bathmate or Hydromax but the difference is as the Super-sets advance the Gaiters are also changed to increase pressure, this brings progressive expansion much better than that of the Bathmate.

yeah i agree with you on this! although i think from memory you made the 5 mins Bathmate/5 mins SSJ/3 sets routine because in the Bathmate there would be water retention so you made that routine to avoid the water retention while giving you maximum expansion... i think with the penoment you could go 10 mins/5 mins SSJ/3 sets for sure as the penoment doesnt have any water retention but pure expansion...

Yeah, the Gaiters and the intensity changes they offer open a new dimension to the entire super-set theme. Originally, when the DLD Bathmate Girth Blasters were released there was only a Bathmate X-40 available. Since that time we have seen the X-40, the X40, X40 and now the very powerful Penomet HydroPump. With all the new additions to the water pump lineup leaves a lot of room for innovation in routine and use.
 
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