I hear that man. I read Dash's "Hard Core Hanging" thread yesterday and I am going to go for his approach. I'll shoot for 1-3 sets/day and try to move up in weight as quickly as possible. He gained like crazy by doing it. I still suggest to you try for 6 sets/day but for me it's just too much now. I've been hanging every day since Nov 1, 2012 and it took way too much free time. So I'll do like you say and keep at it with Dash's method and hopefully gain something. I still feel fatigue so I think I should probably gain something.

The thing I will be focusing on most is attaching properly - trying to attach as close to the head as possible. That way my attachment point won't get destroyed. I've been attaching way too high up since I started SDS and it has resulted in a large, inflamed lump just below the high attachment point. The lump had already been there but the hanger just agitated it.

So I'll just take it easy and consistent. Fuck trying for 10+ hours a week. That's the best way to hang but I don't care that much anymore. My main problem is finding someone to use it on.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Sat May 11:

1 set SDS
15 min prim. jelq

Gym - 90lbs squat, 65lbs bench, 65lbs barbell row, 11x3 decline sit ups. Then I did a bunch of other, heavier lifts because I was going out that night and wanted to look fit. I am seeing how this program increases strength so you can lift heavier for more muscle expansion. I looked quite nice after the workout, although I am quite skinny.
 
Tue May 14:

2 sets SDS - 11.5 lbs

Hurts. Need to figure out better attachment procedure. Will try more wrap tomorrow. I think 3 sets will be my maximum on work days. Will probably only do 2 most days.

Like this description I've found on a womanshealthforum ?
"Before you penetrate her, massage her clit and labia with the head and shaft of your penis. Once inside, lift yourself up against her G-spot and then sink in deeply so the head of your cock goes under her cervix to her backstop, if you can reach that far. Hold yourself in balls deep, and then nudgefuck her deep spot without withdrawing, grinding against her clit at the same time. Stay high and in deep with her knees pulled up near her breasts. Gently bump her whole vulva and get your cock up inside her so that she can feel the head up in her gut and her heart, then increase the strength of your pounding as she loosens up and her deepest juices start to flow around your cock.


Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS68s9jpYo
 
MikeShlort;547551 said:
Tue May 14:

2 sets SDS - 11.5 lbs

Hurts. Need to figure out better attachment procedure. Will try more wrap tomorrow. I think 3 sets will be my maximum on work days. Will probably only do 2 most days.

Like this description I've found on a womanshealthforum ?
"Before you penetrate her, massage her clit and labia with the head and shaft of your penis. Once inside, lift yourself up against her G-spot and then sink in deeply so the head of your cock goes under her cervix to her backstop, if you can reach that far. Hold yourself in balls deep, and then nudgefuck her deep spot without withdrawing, grinding against her clit at the same time. Stay high and in deep with her knees pulled up near her breasts. Gently bump her whole vulva and get your cock up inside her so that she can feel the head up in her gut and her heart, then increase the strength of your pounding as she loosens up and her deepest juices start to flow around your cock.


Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS68s9jpYo

I can tell you from experience that this absolutely works. My current girlfriend had her first orgasm through intercourse ever with me fucking her this way. She'd been with 15 guys previous to me and I know that some were bigger. Although, frankly, they probably weren't much bigger. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
MikeShlort;547551 said:
Like this description I've found on a womanshealthforum ?
"Before you penetrate her, massage her clit and labia with the head and shaft of your penis. Once inside, lift yourself up against her G-spot and then sink in deeply so the head of your cock goes under her cervix to her backstop, if you can reach that far. Hold yourself in balls deep, and then nudgefuck her deep spot without withdrawing, grinding against her clit at the same time. Stay high and in deep with her knees pulled up near her breasts. Gently bump her whole vulva and get your cock up inside her so that she can feel the head up in her gut and her heart, then increase the strength of your pounding as she loosens up and her deepest juices start to flow around your cock.

We tried this a while ago. She really liked it but it's really boring for the guy. I got very little arousal from it. It's great for when she's a bit further from and orgasm than you are, and by the time you nudged her over the edge you'll have full [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] back to start a fresh on proper strokes.
 
Medicating;547707 said:
We tried this a while ago. She really liked it but it's really boring for the guy. I got very little arousal from it. It's great for when she's a bit further from and orgasm than you are, and by the time you nudged her over the edge you'll have full [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] back to start a fresh on proper strokes.

I think I just prematurely ejaculated by reading Mike's post:)
 
I've been jackin off like crazy since Thurs. I'm stopping with hanging for a few days. I have this agitated lump that stands out and I want it to heal a bit. Plus I already have a big dick so I'm not too worried about Penis Enlargement. I'm gonna start PGE1 soon too. Hanging fucking hurts and I can't figure out how to attach without pain. I'll give it a few more tries but am getting sick of it.
 
MikeShlort;548133 said:
Hanging fucking hurts and I can't figure out how to attach without pain. I'll give it a few more tries but am getting sick of it.

:(

Have you tried using a silicone sleeve? Seen it mentioned a few days ago on here and seen it mentioned a few times on bibs forum. Wasn't sure how practical it was or the method behind it being used with a wrap.
 
MikeShlort;548448 said:
PGE1. I go into in depth in earlier pages of this thread, as does Peter South, Mistake and King Snake in their threads.

Oh yeah I read all about that. I just wasn't sure that you were referring to that. Does this mean you've "hung up" hanging?
 
boohoohoo;548451 said:
Oh yeah I read all about that. I just wasn't sure that you were referring to that. Does this mean you've "hung up" hanging?

No. I just have a really irritated, swollen attachment point lump. Kinda pissing me off. So I'm going to let that chill out for a bit. Then start back up at whatever weight I can stand and do 1 set/day, like dash's hard core hanging program. Hopefully the PGE1 doesn't make attachment point pain an issue. I think it'll be a good combo. It was originally what I was going to do last summer - hanging and PGE1. But I chose to just hang in the fall. I've gained a solid quarter inch of EL since then so I feel I'm at a good size to start this method.
 
mike mankin;548490 said:
straight down hanging is painful, I was up to 20 pounds 6 oz for 8 to 10 sets..it got to be to painful so I backed off to 12 to 15 pounds in reclining btc position, much better..should of started with this position. but got caught up into trying to reach this elusive fatique state and soreness which all vets talk about..now I just shoot for an intense stretch.

I think you're right about SD standing being painful. I started with BTC and it was much nicer on my attachment point. The only reason I switched to SD standing from lying down BTC is back pain. It's a fucked up position for your back to be in for 3 hours a day. I was gaining with BTC. And able to add weight each week. Not nearly as much problems with attachment point pain. But back pain, yes.

I'd need to build a special chair or something to hang BTC without damaging my back. Fortunately for me, my penis is pretty much big enough for what I want to do with it. Unless I fall for a woman with a 9" deep vagina, I'll be okay with my current size.... Maybe a half inch to 3/4 more could do me, as far as length goes.
 
mike mankin;548639 said:
I think bib did a lot of hanging in a reclining chair...im just starting out with hanging 2 1/2 months. I think your completely right about usable dong. these pe practioners over 9 npbel who want more size than they will ever use is curious...7 1/4 to 8 1/4 I think would be ideal for a normal sweet young hottie. cant pound hard and deep what good is it...I have this nutty female cousin who tells me all the intimate details of her sexual escapades..shes was fucking this Italian guy who had a dick down to his knees, her words. I think she said he was 9 inches..anyway she refused to do it doggie with him because of pain. shes 5 ft 6 about 135 pounds. shes says that a portuques guy with an 8 incher is a better fuck..these are her measurements which are estimations and we all know girls almost always over estimate.

I think 8" is bigger than it sounds. I'm about 7.25"NBPenis EnlargementL. Probably over 8"BPenis EnlargementL at this point, but I don't count BPenis EnlargementL (except when bragging to women - let's face it, 7 inches sounds small, but looks big. I was told this by a female who was enjoying fiddling with it) . I really do need to get with more women, see what they are able to take. I think even 8"NBPenis EnlargementL may be too long. I want to be able to fully penetrate, not have any left over. Feels gay having dick out in the cold. Gets lonesome.

I look at a ruler when I'm hard and I can visulize me being 8"NBPenis EnlargementL... it seems like it would be fucking huge. I think about .25"-0.5" in length and girth will by my max, unless of course I end up with a girl who is vaginally deeper than I am long.
 
Wed May 22:

PGE1 in right side top. Tried bottom right side but had to take needle out and relocate. :/

Around 30 min of jelqing. Then heated my dick. Feels great.
 
MikeShlort;548653 said:
I look at a ruler when I'm hard and I can visulize me being 8"NBPenis EnlargementL... it seems like it would be fucking huge. I think about .25"-0.5" in length and girth will by my max, unless of course I end up with a girl who is vaginally deeper than I am long.

You will get there, you have to! Your dedication to your progress and that of others is a sure sign of victory in my eyes, time will bring your desires, stay consistent Mike and dedicated as you have been.
 
Thanks DLD. If I stop trying, I fall off very quickly so I have that to keep me motivated.

I wanted to do another PGE1 shot tonight, but I woke up with full body aches, a fever, stomach ache, the flu, the clap etc. and could not eat anything all day. So I know if I try doing anything with my shriveled, sore penis it will surely die. Pain in the ass but it's the way she goes.
 
I'm taking a week off. I jerked off a lot the past 24 hours. Gonna get that base size. Hoping it's gonna be 7.25x5.75. Then I will work from there.
 
I know you must have mentioned before, but are you doing a high rep gym workout?

EDIT: I just saw that you are doing a 5x5 program.
 
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doublelongdaddy;550080 said:
OMG! The Damned were one of my favorite groups growing up!

That album is amazing. The way it's recorded and mixed. If Teenage Head could have gotten that raw sound like the Damned did on their first album, they would have been large.
 
Okay. My base size I will say is a tick above 7". Guess I lost a bit of length or maybe I just wasn't 100% but I'm calling it 7" so I have 1 inch to gain in length. I'm giving myself 18 months to gain an inch in length and at least a half inch in girth. Hanging and PGE1 injections + jelqing will be the exercises.
 
MikeShlort;550145 said:
Okay. My base size I will say is a tick above 7". Guess I lost a bit of length or maybe I just wasn't 100% but I'm calling it 7" so I have 1 inch to gain in length. I'm giving myself 18 months to gain an inch in length and at least a half inch in girth. Hanging and PGE1 injections + jelqing will be the exercises.

Hey man. Glad you're back in it. I cannot believe you are 7 inches. You look HUGE in those pictures I saw a while back. I'm currently something around 7.5 BPenis EnlargementL and I feel like I look significantly smaller than your pictures. I don't know how you will take that, but hopefully as a confidence boost.

One other thing. I check with Bib on his forum and he expressly told me to avoid mixing heavy girth worth with hanging. He literally said it could "ruin" my life. If I remember correctly after I went to the appropriate section it said that mixing the two caused pyronies disease in some guys (don't quote me on that last disease name, but it's on the forum so check it out).

I don't know exactly what Bib considers "heavy" girth work, because I imagined that would mean clamping and pumping. That being said, I remember reading somewhere that he recommends only doing "light" jelqing while hanging, as far as girth work goes. Check up on how PGE1 and serious jelqing can combine with hanging. Just thought I'd mention it to you.
 
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Ya man. I totally believe him and I've told tons of guys to not do girth work while they hang. But I'm only going to be hanging like 1-2 sets/day, doing it the dashdem hardcore hanging way. And I'm not going to be pumping til I get at least another half inch. I am hoping to get about a half inch from hanging and a half inch from PGE1.

Bib's advice and ways are definitely the best way to enlarge your penis, but he is hardcore (and obsessed) and he would spend most of his day hanging (4 hours at least). I don't want to do that anymore. And hanging BTC (which is the only angle that is effective for me) fucks up my back. So I can't really do the hanging properly. I'm just going to hang 1-2 sets/day in SD Standing, hope that a year of that gets me at least a quarter inch (permanent EL) and hope that in the meantime my penis will grow (raw tissue expansion - not stretching) from PGE1.

I'll basically be stretching tissue by hanging, then further stretching and expanding it from PGE1. Whcih will hopefully cause growth at night, therefore giving me an all around bigger and denser penis.

If I cared more and was younger I'd do it properly but I'm getting old and my obsession with having a adult entertainment dick is quickly fading. 8x6.25 seems liek it would be enough to make any woman a quivering, wet mess. Plus I already feel that my current size is big. If I weren't so egotistical I'd just start pumping til I reach 6.25 and call it a day but I want it to look huge so I need that extra bit of length before I can throw more girth on it. Girth will make it look shorter.

And of course if I ever feel shitty enough to need a 9"NBPenis EnlargementL, I can always build a chair specifically for BTC hanging. According to Bib I have "at least a couple inches" of potential for lig hanging gains. So even if I make my tunica rock solid (which I wager any deconditioning break will help soften in) I'll still have lig potential. I don't ever see wanting a 10", maybe when I'm like 40-50 and insane. But if keep up with Penis Enlargement, by then my cock will be down to my knee anyways.

So that's why I'm going that route, but I don't recommend anyone do that as well.
 
Thurs June 6:

Well, after telling boohoo how bad it is to jerk off, I went and jerked off. What a hypocrite. I was edging to pictures of clothed females, then I happened to pass over some pictures of vaginas from the back view and momentarily lost discipline and gave 'er the old e-jacc. So I went nearly 2 weeks since last e-jacc.

Usually when I do e-jacc, I serial masturbate for the next 24 hours (I think 15 times is my record). I am not going to do that this time. My theory is when I masturbate a million times, it breaks down my penis and then it has to build up from scratch, not really allowing for strengthening, more of a reset button. But if I only jerk it once, then don't jerk it again, I assume I will recover fully within a few days. My theory is if I keep this cycle up (jerk off ONLY ONCE the odd time), eventually my recovery time between e-jacc and 100% boners will shorten. I had this theory awhile back and posted it in this thread but never had the discipline to stick with it. So, along with many other things I am simultaneously working on, discipline will be added to the top of the list.

I've always jerked off like a madman, never giving my penis a chance to strengthen. So I will e-jacc and edge the absolute minimum and hopefully within time I will be able to get 100% erections within 10 minutes after e-jacc. (Usually with hot adult entertainment if I haven't e-jacced in awhile I can get another 100% erection like 4-5 times that same day, sometimes within like 20 min of the last load, but I want to not watch adult entertainment again and be able to get 100% just from the thought of sex/touching a clothed woman)

Annother shitty thing about masturbating and edging is it inflames my lump (bad spot) by the head of my penis from hanging. I want to start hanging again but I want that lump to be as calm as possible before starting. So I gotta do stuff that will make my dick nice and chill, and edging and stuff is the exact opposite.

Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRgSYm31bs
 
MikeShlort;550135 said:
That album is amazing. The way it's recorded and mixed. If Teenage Head could have gotten that raw sound like the Damned did on their first album, they would have been large.

I saw them on the Smash it Up tour....AMAZING
 
Holy fuck, I've been jerkin off and eatin ice cream like an obese woman with 40 cats. Awesome.

"If women aren’t talking about you, you didn’t do anything that was foolish or embarrassing enough to gain their attention.

Exactly. So, do something foolish and embarrassing. I wish I was a teen again so that I could get attention just by falling of chairs and getting all my answers wrong. It’s much more effort to be stupid as an adult. I’ll have to wait until I’m demented to reach my full game potential.

I’d rather they not know that I exist, than for me to be known as some loser to women.

That’s why you’re not getting laid.

Why don’t you try screwing up really badly? Travel to the next town or next state or South Africa, go to a bar and make yourself look really bad where no one will remember you. Tell some girls that you’re an unemployed garbage guy, a desperate virgin and possible gay. Add whatever it is that you most worry people are going to think of you. You might notice it isn’t the end of the world.

Unless women are talking about you in a positive manner, it’s always better to not be spoken of during a conversation.

Rubbish. If you don’t have any haters, you haven’t made any impression. Name any successful guy that doesn’t have people saying bad things about him behind their back. In fact, the bigger impression you make, the more people will be focusing on your superficial flaws to feel superior to you.

Women are always bitching about the stupid things their boyfriends do – but it’s the guys who do stupid things who have the girlfriends, not the guys who constantly worry about appearing flawless."
 
MikeShlort;550341 said:
Thurs June 6:

Usually when I do e-jacc, I serial masturbate for the next 24 hours (I think 15 times is my record).


LMAO!!!!!! Dude after 6 times for me it feels like my balls are in my stomach and I feel weak as fuck.
 
MikeShlort;550741 said:
Holy shit johnjones, you've had some good success with Penis Enlargement. Your base girth is ridiculous, girls must love it. Well done
Thanks bro, my girl now took forever to get used to it. Was pretty normal for her to bleed after some rough sex. She didn't really like it until now. I would like to have your length, you're pretty big yourself.

doublelongdaddy;550805 said:
:) Girls do prefer the girth to the length

What I've always heard is they would have a thick short cock instead of a long skinny one
.
 
Just so you motherfuckers know, I am by far done my Penis Enlargement career. Just laying low. I want an 8"NBPenis EnlargementL, more importantly 6.25"EG at least.

I've been jacking it like crazy and eating unhealthily, in one of those slumps - a side effect of reformatting my mind to truly not give a fuck about anything except being a prick. I've always been close so it's a short trip. It's like ironic detacHydromaxent, except with winning and arrogance, and lots of contemptuous sarcasm. And a big penis. Sans drug addiction. Fuck yeah.

The good thing is my penis is still big without the Penis Enlargement and the addition of frequent whacking. I am still strong and have endurance, although the frequent jacking is bad for my already troubled back. But it's all healing. I sometimes like to heal through the worst circumstances. In the end, once I am back in tip top condition, I will go from there.

I am seriously considering constructing a custom chair so I can hang BTC again. Something that will garner gains but not back problems. We'll see how things go.

Once I lay off the jacking for a good week and my flaccid has a minimally swollen bad spot lump, I will start hanging again 1-2 sets/day - Dash's hardcore hanging method, increasing the weight as my attachment point can take it. SDS position, until I get fed up with it and make the chair.

I will also be plumping up my winkle with the PGE1 doses. I am going for stretching + raw tissue mass expansion. I will document it all in depth.

Lastly, I think I am going to start applying kingsnake's DMSO/PABA/Magnesium complex protocol. I admire that motherfucker's tunnel visioned motivation. I criticized him in the past for one dimensional thinking but I've realized to accomplish anything you need to put on blinders and look forward to the goal. Why not get your dick as big as possible and fuck as many hot sluts as you can? That's what I am going to do. What else is there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxJnltFsDAQ
 
neognostic;550844 said:
How's jacking and hanging hurting your back?

Ejaculation causes a drop in testosterone. Also, when you ejaculate, your body immediately goes into a frenzy to try and restore the semen supply (for reproduction purposes), so it will leach proteins from everywhere it can - your brain, your muscles etc. I have read it is bad for your back, probably because spinal fluid is full of precious white blood cells or whatever, and since I have back problems already, it causes a real problem.

The other thing is when you shoot a load into a sock or a kleenex, you are basically shooting out all the minerals you took in that day. Especially zinc, which is one of the most important minerals in the production of testosterone.

Incidentally, ejaculating into a vagina does not cause this effect because the acids in the female's vagina neutralize your ph levels and it does not cause a loss of zinc, minerals and testosterone - the exact opposite is said to happen when you have vagina sex - you actually boost your testosterone. Which is why sexually active guys tend to be more masculine and have more energy, testosterone, seretonin etc. It's a natural selection thing. Fucking = living.

So when I jerk off, the next day I really notice how awful my back is, how weak my bones and muscles are etc. It's like a pot hangover. Basically extremely weaker. If I'm dumb enough to jerk off after hitting the gym that day, I will be fucking sore and weak for days. I will actually be weaker than I was days before when I go to the gym the next time. Jerking off without a delicious, glorious, sopping wet plow-hole is bad for you.

Hanging BTC in a chair, slouched over for hours a day for 4 months fucked my back up. It was horrible posture and my back is still recovering. Very bad for the entire spine - I have issues from lower back to neck. So I will have to construct a special chair to hang BTC in if I decide to in the future. Something where I am lying flat and my spine is fully straight.

So those two things combined cause problems. Luckily I am still able to kill it at work, lift shit etc. Oh, and the last thing is I find when I've jerked off I can't eat nearly as much, which in turn makes my muscles sore.

Long story short, I need to find a sarcastic, thin, eye-rolling bitch with bleached blonde hair and black roots to stretch out nightly or stop jerking off if I want to heal my back, get stronger, and eventually move back to BTC hanging.
 
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