Mike Shlort's Journey To Becoming A Real Man

[MikeShlort]

Definitely the position. I've noted before that injecting lower seems to give less of a response, most likely due to more "wash out". I said before that if I inject low I'll use more but I don't have much to spare at the moment so I was hoping it wouldn't wash out so much.

As far as units go, I seem to get the same response with 20 units as I do with 24, same or better. I think there are a lot of factors involved. I think the main factor is how good I'm feeling in general. I train with weights so my body is constantly in recovery, so that could take away from it. I know on days where I inject when I;m feeling strong and not fatigued mentally or physically I have good responses.

Thanks for the perspective though. Definitely I think it's mostly to do with the position, but yesterday I was very fatigued and not mentally into it as well.

 

[MikeShlort]

Sat Aug 24:

21 units mid left. 100% 1.5 hr. 80% 1 hr. Don't remember the rest. No jelqing. Erections all night.

 

[coogi]

No but I should. I have Verapamil, which is sort of similar. I'll look into that once I run out of that.

BTW, if anyone knows of any links where I can find PABA and DMSO in Canada, that would be great. Found DMSO on ebay but shipping was pricy.

Mon Aug 19:

I did way too much edging.

Hey mike I got my DMSO from supplement warehouse very cheap

http://www.supplementwarehouse.com/viewitem.asp?idproduct=153048

and PABA from

http://purebulk.com/paba-powder-para-aminobenzoic-acid.html

I ordered 8 bottles of DMSO and 1kg of PABA, the paba came very quick but the dmso took longer. After 3 months of using it semi frequently im half way through one bottle of DMSO. Only mix it in small batches at a time. hope that helps

 

[MikeShlort]

Hey mike I got my DMSO from supplement warehouse very cheap

http://www.supplementwarehouse.com/viewitem.asp?idproduct=153048

and PABA from

http://purebulk.com/paba-powder-para-aminobenzoic-acid.html

I ordered 8 bottles of DMSO and 1kg of PABA, the paba came very quick but the dmso took longer. After 3 months of using it semi frequently im half way through one bottle of DMSO. Only mix it in small batches at a time. hope that helps

Thanks man. You're in Canada?

 

[coogi]

Thanks man. You're in Canada?

Im in New Zealand, I think Supplement Warehouse delivers to Canada, but not international, I had to do a bank wire transfer which was a bitch and took a while to sort out. But they delivered in the end and price was better than anywhere else. If they dont deliver to canada they'll ask you to complete the order as normal using dummy their credit card number and then do a transfer after referencing your order number in the transfer.

 

[MikeShlort]

Fucked up my back squatting. The risks of hanging BTC improperly.... Still not done with the back problems

 

[coogi]

Fucked up my back squatting. The risks of hanging BTC improperly.... Still not done with the back problems

Hey mike what you consider improper and proper when btc hanging, as im considering getting into hanging, in the btc position and dont want to fuck up my back. thanks

 

[MikeShlort]

Hey mike what you consider improper and proper when btc hanging, as im considering getting into hanging, in the btc position and dont want to fuck up my back. thanks

Improper would be doing it in a way where you back isn't completely flat. Like hanging BTC in a chair, with your neck and back bent. Best way would be to lie on a flat, hard surface that keeps your spine straight and firm. I suggest a weight bench.

I used a computer chair for the majority of it and it fucked me up bad.

Tue Aug 27:

21 units mid-high right side. 1.5 hrs 100%. 80% the next hour and a bit. Then I jelqed for 15-20 min.

 

[MikeShlort]

Thurs Aug 29:

21 units mid-high left side. 100% for 1.5 hrs? Fuck, who remembers the rest. I think I jelqed too.

I'mm going to start jelqing on my off days. As a matter of fact, I'm going to order a pump sleeve and break out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and do some light pumping. If I start noticing length decrease I will promptly stop. I might even start doing manual stretching again too. My plan is to start hanging again once my back has been healed for over a month. But it's still fucked so that could be anywhere from 3-6 months.

 

[Medicating]

Thurs Aug 29:

21 units mid-high left side. 100% for 1.5 hrs? Fuck, who remembers the rest. I think I jelqed too.

I'mm going to start jelqing on my off days. As a matter of fact, I'm going to order a pump sleeve and break out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and do some light pumping. If I start noticing length decrease I will promptly stop. I might even start doing manual stretching again too. My plan is to start hanging again once my back has been healed for over a month. But it's still fucked so that could be anywhere from 3-6 months.

Look at you going back to basics! Jelqing and manual stretching!

The jelqing is a nice idea though. I may join you. Cheers, Shlort.

 

[MikeShlort]

They say to jelq at least 10 min after a hanging session anyways

Sat Aug 31:

21 units HIGH left side. 1.5hr 100%. Decreased from that point on. When completely flaccid, I jelqed for a good 40 min. Fun.

 

[coogi]

They say to jelq at least 10 min after a hanging session anyways

Sat Aug 31:

21 units HIGH left side. 1.5hr 100%. Decreased from that point on. When completely flaccid, I jelqed for a good 40 min. Fun.

So you can jelq when flaccid? is it erect better or it doesnt matter? Because I find it very hard to keep my erection when jelqing. thanks

 

[LoveHerDeeply]

So you can jelq when flaccid? is it erect better or it doesnt matter? Because I find it very hard to keep my erection when jelqing. thanks

You can take whatever partial blood is filling the penis and shove it upwards to balloon out the penis upper half.

I started wearing a cockring for all my girth work and now I don't need adult entertainment. Just imagination and memory of hot times with my hot wife, cockring and a little stimulation... and I'm at 110%. Try it.

 

[MikeShlort]

So you can jelq when flaccid? is it erect better or it doesnt matter? Because I find it very hard to keep my erection when jelqing. thanks

I started out flaccid but I was mostly hard for the 40 min.

They say flaccid jelqing is good for length gains. I do it just to work the penis and try to stretch the tissue. Also, after hanging, I would flaccid jelq and it would make my penis supple and pliable again for the next day of hanging. If I erect jelqed, I would over train and it would be tight and brittle the next day for hanging.

This was when hanging. Now I try to erect jelq.

Sun Sept 1:

1 session of manual stretch. 20 min jelqing.

 

[MikeShlort]

Mon Sept 2:

20 units high right side. 1.5 hr 100%. 80% for 2 hours or so. Jelqed for 40 min but over an hour later than I should have. I must make sure to always make sure to wet jelq immediately after erection subsides.

If you guys know the user ShadedSam, his new display picture is crazy. Basically is how I would like to look, except more girth. I don't ever think I can get the muscle definition he has, the lucky fucker has that type of body. I eat no wheat or dairy, raw vegetables, lean meats, train 3-5 times/week and I still look soft compared to that fucker.

Anyways, i wish I was able to take a link of his picture so I could compare it side to side but I don't know how to do that. But here's my version of white guy with nice body and horse cock:

View attachment 27698

 

[DLD]

Mon Sept 2:

20 units high right side. 1.5 hr 100%. 80% for 2 hours or so. Jelqed for 40 min but over an hour later than I should have. I must make sure to always make sure to wet jelq immediately after erection subsides.

If you guys know the user ShadedSam, his new display picture is crazy. Basically is how I would like to look, except more girth. I don't ever think I can get the muscle definition he has, the lucky fucker has that type of body. I eat no wheat or dairy, raw vegetables, lean meats, train 3-5 times/week and I still look soft compared to that fucker.

Anyways, i wish I was able to take a link of his picture so I could compare it side to side but I don't know how to do that. But here's my version of white guy with nice body and horse cock:

View attachment 27698

Mike, with the masturbation cut out of your life have you found new virtues in other areas of your life? Very curious.

 

[MikeShlort]

Mike, with the masturbation cut out of your life have you found new virtues in other areas of your life? Very curious.

No but it's good that I don't have those days of down time after e-jac. And having big nuts is fun. Been over 2 months btw. Even though I edge from time to time. I'd like to not even edge, but to get to that point and deny ejaculation every time is cool.

If what you're asking is have I become less sexualized and less concerned with women and more concerned with other things the answer is no. Women are pretty much as important to me as anything.

 

[MikeShlort]

Okay. Whacked off to internet adult entertainment 5-6 times today. Went from July 1 - Sept 5.

adult entertainment is evil. Whacking off is garbage. Edging is harmful. Junk food is shit. Less than 8 hours a night of solid sleep is misery.

Therefore, my goals for the next 2.5 months:

1. No whacking off
2. No edging
3. No viewing arousing images of women
4. No junk food
5. 8 hours of proper sleep every night
6. No watching any video media for anything other than learning (except when eating)

Along with the usual practices. I think I am on the verge of figuring it out. Everything should fall into place if I keep this up. Including healing my back to be able to hang to make my big dick even bigger. This is a Penis Enlargement forum, after all.

 

[Medicating]

Okay. Whacked off to internet adult entertainment 5-6 times today. Went from July 1 - Sept 5.

adult entertainment is evil. Whacking off is garbage. Edging is harmful. Junk food is shit. Less than 8 hours a night of solid sleep is misery.

Therefore, my goals for the next 2.5 months:

1. No whacking off
2. No edging
3. No viewing arousing images of women
4. No junk food
5. 8 hours of proper sleep every night
6. No watching any video media for anything other than learning (except when eating)

Along with the usual practices. I think I am on the verge of figuring it out. Everything should fall into place if I keep this up. Including healing my back to be able to hang to make my big dick even bigger. This is a Penis Enlargement forum, after all.

What's the reasoning behind not watching video media?

 

[ShadedSam]

Nice pic, Mike! Sorry about your back. Best tip I ever received for squats is to make sure you have a strong core and flex your abs while squating. I actually get a good ab workout from it. Once your back is healed enough that it doesn't hurt to do ab exercises, start doing as much as you can. Your best bet is high weight low reps. Don't do a million crunches because your back isn't meant to move that much and it can wear down the cartilage.


Anyway, thanks for the compliment! I uploaded a pic on my progress log if you wanted to do a side by side. How tall are you, if you don't mind me asking.

 

[MikeShlort]

What's the reasoning behind not watching video media?

TV, movies etc. Makes me lazy. If I watch some video media, it's a million times harder to pick up a book or guitar afterwards. It also makes me tired and gives me a headache.

Shadedsam - I'm 6ft

 

[ShadedSam]

Mike, I was reading through your thread and I noticed a theme of staying away from ejaculating. Have you ever tried ZMA? I would highly recommend it. Take two tablets a night and two after ever time you ejaculate. Trust me, it will keep you from getting that tired feeling that you can get after ejaculating. It allows your body to better produce and maintain free testosterone and gives it the nutrients necessary to rebuild the semen after it is lost.

 

[MikeShlort]

Mike, I was reading through your thread and I noticed a theme of staying away from ejaculating. Have you ever tried ZMA? I would highly recommend it. Take two tablets a night and two after ever time you ejaculate. Trust me, it will keep you from getting that tired feeling that you can get after ejaculating. It allows your body to better produce and maintain free testosterone and gives it the nutrients necessary to rebuild the semen after it is lost.

I've heard about it. Is it any different from taking zinc, magnesium and vitamin b6 tablets? Also, I was using tribulus and testofen, but then I realize it can cause hair loss. I have a receding hair line so I immediately stopped taking it. Will ZMA have the same hormonal effects that causes balding? (raised testosterone levels)

My hair is more important than my cock and my physique.

 

[smerc]

You should get some labs done then. LEF has a good deal on hormonal panels when you become a member.

 

[ShadedSam]

ZMA just allows your body to produce the testosterone that it wants to produce. Not any more, not any less so it shouldn't make you bald faster. Besides, you are already raising your T levels by working out, which is more likely to cause DHT to rise than adding a few minerals. If you are really concerned about your balding, try taking Saw Palmetto to block the DHT. Bodybuilding uses up a lot of zinc and magnesium, but these minerals need to be present to allow your body to produce what it is trying to produce. I've tried other pro-hormones like tribulus and they did nothing, and ZMA you don't have to cycle since it is just minerals that you are supposed to get with your diet anyway.

It is way different than taking them separately. It has to be in aspertate form and in the correct ratio. Regular zinc like in a multivitamin isn't in aspertate form. Also, you can't take calcium with it (which multivitamins have) because that destroys it.

 

[MikeShlort]

You should get some labs done then. LEF has a good deal on hormonal panels when you become a member.

What do you mean by this post? Get labs done then?

 

[MikeShlort]

ZMA just allows your body to produce the testosterone that it wants to produce. Not any more, not any less so it shouldn't make you bald faster. Besides, you are already raising your T levels by working out, which is more likely to cause DHT to rise than adding a few minerals. If you are really concerned about your balding, try taking Saw Palmetto to block the DHT. Bodybuilding uses up a lot of zinc and magnesium, but these minerals need to be present to allow your body to produce what it is trying to produce. I've tried other pro-hormones like tribulus and they did nothing, and ZMA you don't have to cycle since it is just minerals that you are supposed to get with your diet anyway.

It is way different than taking them separately. It has to be in aspertate form and in the correct ratio. Regular zinc like in a multivitamin isn't in aspertate form. Also, you can't take calcium with it (which multivitamins have) because that destroys it.

Thx for the info. A quick wiki search tells me that lots of ZMA aren't in the original form. Do you know a brand which is just the pure, original form without all the added stuff? (Like tribulus). Would Now Foods offer a good one? I have a lot of their supplements.


Tue Sept 10:

I busted out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] for the first time in well over a year. Did some jelqing and maybe 4-5 min of light pumping. It left rings. So I'm gonna wait til I get my sleeve in the mail until I do more [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. Stupid design. Hopefully they come tomorrow. I'm also going to order the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x40[/words] tomrrow. But right now I need bed.

 

[smerc]

What do you mean by this post? Get labs done then?

Blood work/tests.

 

[ShadedSam]

I order from bodybuilding.com. Super cheap and they have plain ZMA.

 

[MikeShlort]

Thurs Sept 12:

Manual Stretch Session

20 min Prim. jelq

 

[MikeShlort]

FUckin whacked off all weekend. Went from feeling strong to feeling like a weed hangover and sore back. Could I even lift anything today? Christ. I was killing it all week too, but I guess I can't have no fun without having to start over.

 

[MikeShlort]

Mon Sept 16:

Back on the horse.................................cock

Got my pump sleeves. Cut vertical slits into one so it could accommodate my ivory tusk. No [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bites, felt great. Cool shit.

Needless to say, from all the muscle atrophy and jerking off all weekend, the candy, the old school adult entertainment, the ice cream, the sleeping.. My EQ was shit when I started the workout. And my erect size was in the shitter. But I soldiered on, excited to be pumping again.

I did a little bit of jelqing with grape seed oil, got hard enough to penetrate the sleeve and pump, then did this:

3 min set in pump
jelqing for a couple min
3 min set in pump
jelqing for a couple min

I did extremely low pressure. But I still had a bit of a plump between the sets.

In fact, I'm a bit erect now and it seems plumper. This gives me the impression that after a nice pumping session, a shot of PGE1 would be ideal.... IF the penis stays fat for the entire erection. I used to tie off to keep the pump for 4-8 hours. Maybe I'll tie off the erection if the pump does not stay on its own. I think that would yield some serious gains.

All I'm lookin for is 0.25" of EG. Then, after I cement that shit, I should be ready to get back to hanging. Where I will add on another 0.5"-1" of EL, then throw on an additional 0.25"-0.5" of EG. All of a sudden I'm Peter North's kid brother, Mike Hawkeshardt

 

[MikeShlort]

Tue Sept 17:

Manual stretch session

 

[MikeShlort]

Wed Sept 18:

Manual stretch session
Pump 3.5 min
Jelqs
Pump 3.5 min
Jelqs

 

[MikeShlort]

Fri Sept 20:

Jelqs
Pump 3.5 min
Jelqs
Pump 3.5 min
Jelqs

Manual stretch session
Jelqs

 

[MikeShlort]

Sat Sept 21:

Jelqs
Manuals

Manuals
Jelqs

Pump 3.75 min
Jelqs
Pump 3.75 min
Jelqs

Sun Sept 22:

Manuals

Mon Sept 23:

Manuals

Times: 3.75min
Jelqs
Pump
Jelqs
Pump

 

[MikeShlort]

Tue Sept 24:

Pump Routine: Times: 4min

Wed Sept 25:

Manuals

Pump Routine - 4.5min

 

[BornInFigi]

Hows the back? I messed mine up with deadlift some weeks back, and has taken a toll on my ability to do hardcore streches on the toilet. I'm doing squats now and will be switching up to manual streches lying down.

 

[MikeShlort]

Back is healing well. Can't wait to start hanging again. I estimate about 2-3 months.

Scab on my cock and I'm tired so no Penis Enlargement today. Jacked off two days ago, only once. Still have ridiculous libido and boners. Was kinda sore and weak next morning. So it is still something that needs to be avoided.

 

[MikeShlort]

I did some pumping last night, went overboard with the pressure. That is of little consequence.

I've been thinking about it for a long time. I've come to the conclusion that Penis Enlargement is useless if you don't have good social and financial standing, in my case. The women I desire relationships with only deal with guys with high social standing, and who are capable of taking them to parties and vacations. The rest of the women, who can't get these socially in demand men, are forced to settle for men of the lower tiers. You know, the kind of women who you can't really give 100% to because they just don't have that thing in them that drives you insane with passion. They just sort of exist.

I figured 2 years ago that once I have a big penis, the world is my oyster. I'd be so brimming with confidence, I'd be able to pull at my maximum capacity. The reality is that I'm just as unconfident as before, I just happen to have a big penis.

In conclusion, the grim reality is you need to have social status, money, and good looks to be with any desirable females. The rest of us get the scraps. I see it as pretty much law. If I can figure out a way around it, I will share.

 

[ShadedSam]

Mike, you are right. Having a big penis doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. Especially for guys who's self esteem is so low that we are willing to hang weights from our penis for hours a day lol. I am fully aware that I have some sort of body dismorphic disorder and self esteem issues. I am ok with that though. I figure I'll work on it some other day. Right now I am working on increasing the size of my dick even though I know it won't bring self confidence, but I'm not doing it for that. I'm mainly doing it to see if it can be done, and because I feel like it should be bigger. I always have, so I know that that won't go away. I also know that I like sex. I don't care about having the "right" girl. The only reason I want a girl in my life is for sex, because that is the only driving force in my life. Everything else revolves around it, so having a bigger penis, to me, is important.

I've already started on anti-depressants, and that helps. I would recommend them. It may not give you self confidence, but it can help if you have social anxiety.

 

[boohoohoo]

In conclusion, the grim reality is you need to have social status, money, and good looks to be with any desirable females. The rest of us get the scraps. I see it as pretty much law. If I can figure out a way around it, I will share.

I really have no idea what your life is like, so take that into consideration when reading what I write. For all I know you could be working 14 hour shifts at a job that doesn't pay much, and that could be a huge and very real limiting factor for you (even though you could get around that in time with patience and work if you wanted to). Mike, you honestly seem like a cool guy. Do you realize that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is stupid as hell, to put it gently?

Yes, all of the factors you mentioned (money, status, good looks) and some that you brushed aside (a big dick, the ability to speak to and understand women well, etc.) all do factor into getting the "desirable" types. That being said, I think you place way too much emphasis on money/status/looks and not enough on shit you can control (other than your efforts to look good). The only thing that the things you mentioned do is make it EASIER to get hot women and to have a more fun lifestyle.

You probably never will have the lifestyle Brad Pitt did. Being famous and rich beats anything else, plus the guy is the standard of good looks and also pretty charming. That being said, did you know Brad Pitt used to go out to those douchebag filled Hollywood clubs (which I have been to) and hit on women until he could something all when he was a broke as fuck wanna be actor (look it up if you think I'm full of shit).

You literally need to do something if you want to see a change; maybe you are just venting though... Having "game" is a learnable skill that comes with practice, and will put you on the path to getting laid and potentially scoring a chick, or multiple women, that fit what you find "desirable". It is a process, and for most men that have the balls and sense to take it up involves them going through hundreds of rejections, many bad dates, hook ups with less than desirable women, and lots of frustration. That being said, it leads you to a point where you can make moves and get at those desirable types.

I'm pretty sure sitting a room and getting mad at why some guys are naturally hung won't make your penis bigger, and it also won't help much to be too lazy to do Penis Enlargement even if you realize there is a way to get hung. Learning to get good with women is the same damn thing, it requires effort and the ability to set aside your imagined limiting factors.

 

[MikeShlort]

well pe has been good to me.. thx everyone.

My new focus fitness and sluts. My cock is large. So my work here is done (for now). Good times.

 

[coogi]

Awesome man, the ultimate goal in pe is to just be happy with your size and really live your life. Best of luck mike.

 

[DLD]

well pe has been good to me.. thx everyone.

My new focus fitness and sluts. My cock is large. So my work here is done (for now). Good times.

Excellent work and I wish you best on the betterment of the body!

 

[DLD]

well pe has been good to me.. thx everyone.

My new focus fitness and sluts. My cock is large. So my work here is done (for now). Good times.

Excellent work and I wish you best on the betterment of the body!

 

[longstretch]

Good luck to ya Mike. You've been an inspiration to me and others on these boards. I wish you the best. I think all of us who have attained a good amount of size invariably come to realize its the heart that makes the man not the penis, no matter how big it is. I went through something similar once I reached 7.5 and started bottoming out some of the girls I fucked, but somehow still wasn't happy. I took a break from Penis Enlargement to focus on other things. I'm back more for me this time, but I don't have far to go. I'll join you in feminine conquest soon enough brother.

 

[neognostic]

Can't believe I missed Mike Shlort's (hopefully temporary) hiatus from these boards. Best of luck to you, Mike and I hope to at least hear from you sometime in the future.

 

[Vociferous-2ND]

Mike,

Are you no longer hanging?

 

[arkailija]

He said his cock is large! People can grow to certain size and make it permanent, which leaves time for other things. Of course I advocate even some light Penis Enlargement training even after reaching your goals.
But as Mike said, fitness and women (or sluts as he referred) are on top of his list now.

It's great to see people achieve their goals or otherwise realise their potential that they have at the moment. As it is true; us people sometimes make larger goals to achieve than it is necessary. So, reaching a point that you feel comfortable is the solution for many. After all, we all come in different sizes and that is good. It would be quite uninteresting for all men to have a same size, just like it would be boring to see all girls with the same breast size or size overall.

Sorry for the rambling, surely Mike could have answered the question better, but I think he'll go to other places for now. Best of luck to Mike!