MikeShlort;521245 said:
You shouldn't have to worry about that for at least a year of hanging BTC. Then you can just hang over your shoulder, or straight out over the seat of a chair. Pulley isn't necessary, just allows less weight to be used due to less friction

That's awesome. That means I have like 260 to 350 days left to where I can hang BTC before I even have to worry about tunica hanging. What do you think about hanging sideways from the left and right?
 
Well there's not really an arbitrary time frame to hanging. You just hang at an angle until your gains cease for a couple months with increasing weight then pick a new angle. I just said a year minimum, but depending on your LOT it could be less or more.

I think hanging to the left and right is a good idea, supposedly it stretches different lig bundles. I will incorporate it probably around 6 months into hanging BTC. You should really be asking Bib these questions though. He is the expert. He gained 4+ inches with the hanger he invented. I ask him tons of questions before making my next move. Everything I am telling you I am just regurgitating his words
 
neognostic;521466 said:
Mike, it sounds like you've been at this a while. If you don't mind, how much did you gain prior to taking up hanging?

I started end of Sept 2011. Lengthwise, I mainly gained from EQ. The most I've ever measured (NBP) myself in my life is a tad over 7" but that was long ago and I measured from the side. Before I started hanging, I measured 7.1 NBP the proper way (on top) while standing (which normally gives me less length). This was a maximum measurement.

Before I started Penis Enlargement, I was around probably 6.5 NBP due to poor EQ. So if you see my pictures from Aug 8 on the first post of this thread, I am at 6.9 NBP. I maybe gained a couple decimal points at the most from manual Penis Enlargement + extending in that year.

Funny thing is, I did gain around an inch of BPFSL from Penis Enlargement. So those gains are relevant. I believe before Penis Enlargement I maybe was able to stretch not much more than 7.75 BPFSL, I've been extremely close to 9" BPFSL after a manual session.

I haven't measure since I started hanging but I know I've lost some BPFSL and EL, but that's the nature of it. I haven't been keeping up on manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work the past month due to conditioning for hanging - I didn't want to add any extra stress to the glans, as I have been experiencing mild numbness in my glans from improper hanging technique.

Once I am fully conditioned from hanging, I will resume manual stretching and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use. But I am in no rush for that.

I believe for me to gain any significant length, hanging is require. Basically anything that exerts constant force for a long amount of time. Manual stretching was not cutting it for me. I am not strong enough to yield the desired results, although I do believe manual stretching is very important and I am going to include it in any routine, permitting my penis is conditioned enough and I have the time.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] also are good for BPFSL, which I find for me translated into temporarily longer erections.

Girth is a different story. I feel much more confident about my ability to gain girth. I started at around 5.4" EG, now I am hovering at 5.75-5.85. The majority of that gain came in a 2 month time while following a routine of pumping and jelqing. This routine can also be found on the first page of this thread, post #2 I believe.

I stopped girth because I had a conversation with a doctor who told me pumping can lead to complications with length gain (ie fibrosis) and basically stated that it should be done once desired length has been acquired (The link to an article where I share the results of a Q&A session with this doctor can be found on this thread. Page 1 and also around post 191 in my hanging guide). Basically the same theology all the hangers have. At the time, I was unaware of all the information hangers possessed so I overlooked it while doing research.

After the talk with the doctor, I decided to try PGE1 injections with manual stretching + hanging. Long story short, the PGE1 complicated the hanging (attachment point soreness, largely in part due to improper technique), I did more research on Penis Enlargement and decided to get to my goal of 2" NBPenis EnlargementL gained, I am going to have to stretch my ligs and tunica (hanging) before I go about adding raw tissue mass to penis (PGE1 - chemPenis Enlargement).

So now I am doing a strictly hanging based routine, going about it very conservatively, following everything Bib suggests, keeping in close contact with him for any questions I have etc. I am not even going to bother measuring (BPFSL) for at least another 2-3 months.

All of what I am telling you can be found on this thread. I post a ton of helpful things such as articles, theories, links, information, techniques etc.

As of right now, nobody really has any reason to listen to me, but once I have picture proof of actual significant gains, I am sure people will more inclined to consider my theories.
 
Posts #42, #51, #59, #89, #104, #115, #121, #170, #191-199, #207, #230, #257, #315, and #323 - all contain very relevant information. Some posts are a must read, some are just very good information to consider. I suggest checking out them all.

Pages 1-2 - any post by cg1 - very good information on penis anatomy and practical applications of hanging
 
I am, I just lost count last night. I was going for 6 and may have gotten in 7. I'm only at 4.5lbs, which won't do anything. I'm mainly just hanging for attachment point conditioning right now and to increase slowly without injury. All my sets are 20 min. I just don't feel like writing 20 min each time.
 
MartinGlad;522079 said:
Why did you stop with manuals b4 hanging Mikey?

I stopped for two reasons, but I intend to start doing manuals again:

1. Time constraints. I was finding getting in a 15 min manual stretch session after work + gym got in the way of my hanging sets, so I'd end up doing less sets. Same thing for before work.

2. Mild pain + numbness. I was having slight pain and slight numbness in my glans and lower shaft due to improper hanging technique. I was attaching too high up, making it so too much blood pressure was in my shaft that came after the hanger, and glans. Adding manual stretching and extending would just further aggravate the injury. I still have very very slight numbness when I squeeze my glans, but I am thinking this is probably normal, due to the nature of a hanging device.

I am going to wait until my attachment technique is flawless and if I have enough time, I will add in manual stretching sessions in my routine. I think they are a good idea, as the weight I am currently hanging isn't enough to bring on fatigue. I think once I reach a weight where I am getting fatigue and actually causing stretching, I think at that point manual stretching would be less useful and I'd probably ditch it to strictly hang.

I will resume manual stretching fully once I start girth work, in a couple years.

I think manual stretching before hanging is a great idea, it gets the penis nice and long and ready, and it gives the ligs some fatigue before the sets. It's just a matter of time - is it worth the added time? I would imagine just doing an extra set would be more beneficial. At low weights, I would recommend doing a manual stretch before a hanging session.
 
Mike, I just read the first page of this thread again and realized you started this thread at 7.75 BPenis EnlargementL and 5.75 EG. And you "badmouth" the "big cock sluts". WTF! You've already got what they want. What you waiting for?
 
hepcat;522119 said:
BDD is a hell of a disorder!:P

What are your stats now Schlorty-poo?

I haven't had an erection like the one in the picture since I started hanging. I'm just now getting back to having night time erections after starting hanging Oct. 31.
Before I started hanging, I was doing a heavy manual + [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] routine, if you recall my thread. Two 15 min manual stretch sessions per day, Lots of extending, like 6-10 hours, then of course the PGE1 doses. I measured 8" BPenis EnlargementL a couple times during that time, if I hadn't jerked off for a long time and was able to achieve maximum EQ. But that was seated and digging that ruler in very fucking hard.

BPenis EnlargementL measurements are great for accuracy of gains, but as far as using it to state my cock size, I don't put any stock into it. All I am worried about is NBPenis EnlargementL. That can be an advantage, because I've been trying to lose fat, and say I lose enough fat to expose .25" of EL, I take that as a win/gain.

Of course, I realize that some of that penis under the fat pad will be insertable length into a woman when thrusting hard, but I still don't have high regard for it. My goal is 9"NBPenis EnlargementL x 7 MSEG. I could care less what my BPenis EnlargementL is, I just use that measurement because it is the most accurate.

In fact, BPFSL is the measurement I have been really tracking for the past 6 months. The most accurate measurement for tracking gains, in my opinion. Things like fat pad and EQ are variables that come into play and affect an accurate measure, a BPFSL measurement is as accurate as it gets. Keeping in mind that there are different states the flaccid penis can be in, and me personally, depending which state my flaccid penis happens to be in at the time, the difference can be up to .5" BPFSL.

I'm around 8.5" BPFSL as of now. I was around 8.75" during the manual and extending period, getting as much as 8.9" BPFSL after a 15 min manual session. I am probably still stuck at 6.9" NBPenis EnlargementL. I measured 7" NBPenis EnlargementL STANDING just before the hanging.

I need to note that my standing measurement is usually .25" shorter than my seated. Also, it must be noted that I will from now on be doing my official measurements STANDING. That is to say, my goal of 9" NBPenis EnlargementL must be a STANDING measure. That picture on the first post of this thread is a seated NBPenis EnlargementL measurement.

BPFSL I will still do seated, fuck it. This is how I've been measuring and keeping track so there's no point switching it up when I have a good reference point. But when it comes down to it in the end, I want a STANDING 9" NBPenis EnlargementL.

I've noticed more base girth more than anything. The base of my penis is clearly thicker than it was before. It was always the same girth as the majority of my penis, now it is thicker. That's cool. I haven't measured.

I don't intend to measure until I'm hanging over 10 lbs. Or until I've had a month or two of reaching fatigue properly. Whichever comes first. At least three months from now in my estimation.
 
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Mike you've got to get hose EQ issues squared away. I don't want to sound a like a dick, but do you think it has anything to when you smoked crack? You should a build a ROP. I built one for myself and I could blow like 5 loads a day and I'd still have solid EQ (I'd know. I've tested this. :) )
 
Tahir Aqbar;522139 said:
Mike you've got to get hose EQ issues squared away. I don't want to sound a like a dick, but do you think it has anything to when you smoked crack? You should a build a ROP. I built one for myself and I could blow like 5 loads a day and I'd still have solid EQ (I'd know. I've tested this. :) )

Ya crack didn't help but once I got off it and started exercising I got boners all the time.

It was just from improper hanging. Before, I was getting rock hard erections all night that woke me up 3-4 times. In fact, I woke up a couple times last night because of ridiculously hard erections.

I own a ring of power but the rubber pieces are too short and have melted at the tips. I need to get a replacement hose. I wasn't really concerned with doing it quickly, I looked at Home Depot and Cdn Tire but they didn't have it so I'd have to get it on the net. Wasn't in a big hurry because my EQ is normally fine, looks like it is returning back to normal but fixing my ROP is on my to do list.
 
MikeShlort;522209 said:
Ya crack didn't help but once I got off it and started exercising I got boners all the time.

It was just from improper hanging. Before, I was getting rock hard erections all night that woke me up 3-4 times. In fact, I woke up a couple times last night because of ridiculously hard erections.

Yeah, maybe it was pinched nerve or something. I guess the simplicity of my hanger enabled me to adjust to it quickly. Whenever I take it off after my first hanging set I always get a rubbery one.
 
Dec 13:

Testicle Massage
2 sets BTC
15 min jelq

4 sets BTC
20 min jelq

5 g arginine

Dec 14:

Crazy boners again last night and this morning, but there was some pain in my glans and where the hanger attaches because the erection was so hard. The pressure of the erection made the spots where the hanger attaches and glans ache.

I massaged my penis a bit today, and I am mid set hanging. So far, so good. I will make sure to massage my penis between each set rather than just apply heating pad.

Also, I will be fine tuning my attachment procedure to ensure I am getting the best grip with the least discomfort.

I'm also going to put a hiatus on taking arginine before bed. I will continue to take the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]titan[/words] pills after a morning session (which contains arginine), but no raw arginine at night.
 
MikeShlort;522448 said:
Crazy boners again last night and this morning, but there was some pain in my glans and where the hanger attaches because the erection was so hard. The pressure of the erection made the spots where the hanger attaches and glans ache.

Excellent to hear this. This alone will increase size but with everything else you have going on it is just icing on the cake. Were your erections this good before Penis Enlargement?
 
doublelongdaddy;522451 said:
Excellent to hear this. This alone will increase size but with everything else you have going on it is just icing on the cake. Were your erections this good before Penis Enlargement?

No, but I was a drug addict for 9 years so they were poor because of that mainly. Plus I never exercised. I had been off drugs and exercising daily for nearly two months when I started Penis Enlargement. Penis Enlargement definitely has helped EQ a ton. My penis is exponentially better in many ways than it was pre-Penis Enlargement.
 
Tahir Aqbar;522721 said:
Mike! Are you a real man yet?

Turns out I was all along. Considering the perspectives of other people messed everything up, made me make some very bad choices, much worse than the choices I thought were bad at the time. Choices that I have to live with and try to turn into a version of what it used to be. It turns out my instinct has been accurate my whole life. The only time I make a bad decision is when I consider the perspective/opinion of anything that breathes.

In many ways, I'm far superior than I ever was. But in other ways, I am far inferior, and have made choices I can't go back on; passed up opportunities that average people don't make for themselves. But life is a learning process. I tend not to recognize the good during the present, only in hindsight. I value my ability to never be content, because it keeps me on my toes.

In other words, yes, I'm more of a real man than 90% of the people I see daily. I always was, I always will be. The only difference is with this venture, I will come out of it with a bigger penis and better body. The irony is, by that time I will probably be so jaded and disgusted with others, I won't even have the desire to try to use my penis for what it is intended. By that time, I will probably be starved for self destruction; my one true love. But at least I will have bragging rights, and on this planet, that's all that really matters.
 
Tahir Aqbar;522776 said:
You should just find a good Christian woman to share your manhood with.

Women like that bore me. Good women. Boring. I'm not a house and kids guy. Or a "how was your day, honey" kind of guy. I want a challenge. Not someone who's life goal is to breed.
 
I'm basically in this to own every woman sexually. I've been pushed, and now I am in it to beat everyone at their own game. There's not really much of a point of anything else other than to be the biggest, most effective possible prick I can be. That is what gives me the greatest feeling. Making others feel as unpleasant as possible while feeding my own selfish wants. I have a short window of time to accomplish this.
 
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MikeShlort;522781 said:
I'm basically in this to own every woman sexually. I've been pushed, and now I am in it to beat everyone at their own game. There's not really much of a point of anything else other than to be the biggest, most effective possible prick I can be. That is what gives me the greatest feeling. Making others feel as unpleasant as possible while feeding my own selfish wants. I have a short window of time to accomplish this.

love it:)
 
Yeah it really is. She does a good job explaining the subtleties of what women want but won't admit. Sort of like what I was trying to tell you earlier. You have to be yourself but you can't be a pussy.

It's just further proof that they really are just cocksluts who pretend to be dignified. Nothing new. The problem is still how do you get to the point where cock goes into pussy without having to befriend douchebags and/or pursue a mind numbing career in an office environment or something else where lots of females are present.
 
I really don't have any interest in pretending I want to have a trite conversation with a female when all I really want to do is watch my cock go in and out of her holes. What I really want to know is what her pussy looks like. But how do I achieve this without having to compromise? Approaching women at the bar? Internet fuck buddy websites? Hitting on cashiers, bank tellers, etc? I don't think so.

It seems they always have a boyfriend, since they can't ever bear the embarrassment of being alone. The only time there is a "changing of the guards" is when she leaves her current man for another, never having that gap of time where she is alone with her own thoughts and having to find a way to amuse herself.

Difficult for a guy like me who can't stand social convention and is incapable of faking enough to play the game. All I can really offer them is 7" dick, a fit body and rough sex. But they can get that from anyone, on top of the entertainment a guy with social status, money, career etc. can give her.

I missed out by being a fuckup when I was young. The prime ages to get easy sex were 14-22, provided you are in school and have friends. All it's about at that time is sex. Girls want to see your cock, you want to see their pussy: experimentation.

But I fermented until I am at the age where it is more complicated and more is expected than just the thrill of naughty sex. They've done all that, now they want the perks to go with it. It's not like they still can't easily cheat on their amusement provider any time they please.

All I want is the sex, when I see yoga pants, tight shirts, low cut shirts, skirts. I just want the dirty sex, then to be done with it. But I am not good looking enough, rich enough, socially accepted enough, charismatic enough, a good enough actor to get it.

Maybe I will learn with time. I have about a decade left before I start to get way too old for fucking 20 year old girls. I already am old. It's a sad state of affairs. I refuse to pay for it, or compromise.

Hopefully I can embrace the loner in a new place role and make it work for me. I guess practice is all it takes. I've seen it done. Penis Enlargement will be the ultimate factor which will give me the power to pull off something so out of character.


Anyone have any experience pulling beautiful girls on the solo tip? I could use some stories/advice/tactics.
 
hepcat;523175 said:
I am pretty much the same way Schlort. I've always had trouble with relating to people. I can't see the subtle differences between a woman being nice and wanting you. I suffer from many different mental illnesses and despite my best efforts and hospitalizations nothing seems to help in the long run. I too wasted what is supposed to be "the best years of my life", but it was really just a by-product of being rejected on a seemingly endless basis by society. Shooting speedballs for five and a half years helped me not need anyone, but I could no longer afford my habit and got clean (almost 3.5 years now). Now I remember why I used drugs in the first place, but can't sustain the amount I need. Psych meds help make it easier to accept my current state and fate to come, but I really should be upset with where I'm at. So it is still just a way to waste time until you die, which will hopefully be in two more days (fingers crossed).

? I should think not.

Maybe try getting in shape and becoming an asshole? Helped me
 
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Had a whole rant I wanted to type out earlier, but the urge has dissipated. I will write this though, because it was the most important piece to it:

I was speaking to an office staff member where I work and getting advice about career options, because her husband is a tradesman. And she's a nice person, was helping me out and giving me golden advice.

But during the conversation, she said these words to me: "If I married someone who went to University, I wouldn't be living in a house right now."

I wonder if she even realized what she just said. Marriage is a financial investment to women. They pick their mate based on house, car, kids. I want none of it.

I just want dirty sex with cocksluts. As much as I can get. To make up for all the chances I passed up and missed.

I want none of this meaningless companionship. I don't need it. I have always been self reliant, and the only thing I'm willing to share is my penis. Or 50/50 split with a woman who is worthy of me having real emotions for.

The past 2+ years, I've only met one who may fall into that category, and even she may be a fallacy.
 
MikeShlort;523342 said:
Not yet man. Only at 5lbs. I'm going slow. Only adding 15% weight a week. Couple months I'll be closer to 10lbs.

Progressive and slow is so important in hanging, any quick, heavy increases could cause undue strains that could put a guy on the bench for a week or more. There is no rush in hanging, only slowed, controlled, progressive increments. This is why it takes a certain breed of man to dedicate what he needs to make hanging productive.
 
Hey hepcat: I suggest to you going out and reaching out to people. They are really more accommodating than you'd think. And you're tall. What are you, horribly ugly or something? Get cut up, get a tight t-shirt, go out and talk to people. Walk around with that glow in your pants and desire in your heart to warm up to something living. They want the same thing, too. The more you try, the more results you get. Trust me. Also, alcohol helps break initial awkwardness. Go out with a buddy you haven't seen in awhile, start talking to strangers at the bar, work friends etc. Have a few drinks and try to have a conversation with a group of people. Then once you get the hang of it, try to do that with a girl. That's how I am working my way up from the bottom of despair.

Here's a post from pegym that sums up what I'm trying to say (disregard the watching Community on your iPad part.... After all, it is Penis Enlargementgym):

' Talking to women (or men for that matter) comes naturally to me. Flirting, teasing, and seducing is part of who I am and I enjoy it, but these days I only seduce one girl in my life. Although, there was a time when flirting wasn't natural for me, so I went out of my way to learn new social skills. I didn't change who I was or sacrifice anything that is important to me about myself. I just became better at something that was important to me.

A few comments have been made about "just having fun" or "don't worry about the girls, go out and be happy", and I gotta say, its really true. The biggest change in my mindset when I started learning to relate to women was I learned to enjoy the interaction and learn from it regardless of the result, just as I would talk to a guy and either like him, hate him, or make him think I was an idiot. Girls are no different in this, but we seem to have this need to work it up into a show. It isn't a show, its a learning experience: you are learning about someone new. Don't get me wrong, the motivation to have sex can be strong as all damnable hell, but when you are desperate, you are doomed to fail. When you can overlook getting laid for some fun with friends and new faces, you always win, whether you get laid, meet the girl of your dreams, or end up in a gutter with three packs of pringles and an ipad while watching 'Community'. "
 
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I was the same way. Now I stare at my reflection each day, many times a day. No lie. I don't even care what anyone else sees. I see perfection. Aside from my cock. Which I am working on.

Maybe you need to discipline yourself. Create a daily regiment and stick to it. Before long, you will realize you have self control. I dreamed about smoking crack all last night (as usual) and I went out tonight and drank two pints at the work Christmas party. Now I am hanging my 4 BTC sets and eating my yogurt with berries and flax seeds then going to bed. Even though when I went into the bar and saw all the beautiful girls, I wanted to fuck, but when I had a drink, I wanted to do blow. Now I want to do neither, just go to bed. You know what I'm saying?
 
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Slippery slope means a fast and fun ride down.

Dec 20:

3 sets BTC
10 min jelq (85% engorged)

4 sets BTC
15 min wet jelq (mostly flaccid, hard to get erection, had a couple beer plus getting sick)

Had erections through the night, only because I woke up and was thinking things to arouse myself. Still no waking up with night time erections again. I think it's because I was getting sick, which I am today.

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