TLCTugger;447858 said:
Hi Mr. Fonic. It's Ron from TLC Tugger. I'm very sorry to hear about your injury.

You mentioned that your VLC did not interface with much of your glans. We use the wearer's glans-width measurements to custom-size each device. If you didn't measure for us or if you think you could be more precise send us a note through my web-site and I'll try again.

Yes, the VLC creates a vacuum in the space around the glans (if you get a good seal), so anything including blisters that can happen with a vacuum device could happen if the VLC is used with high force. The VLC can also rub your delicate meatus and the mucosal glans surface so if you move a lot while wearing it there could be problems. Most cut guys are far from delicate in the glans/meatus region.

I think of the VLC as an ALL-DAY-STRETCHER, not something to be used for a brief high-stress routine. I am quite confident there is nothing that could be worn comfortably with a given force for longer durations than the VLC, because it grips very gently. You need to observe the skin through the clear retaining cone to decide if you can live with an application attempt or if you need to try again to minimize the largest trapped skin wrinkle.

That said, someone did mention hanging weight, and yes you can hang from it. We give each tugging handle a brief 20-pound test pull which is to say I would rate it for working tensions up to 5 pounds. The device can handle it, but I'm not claiming any penis should endure that force for very long. The weight sets we sell top out at 20.5 ounces. The thing about our weights is they're very dense and designed to ride high against the Tugger so you can wear a given weight discreetly all day. (I've even worn weight through airport security checkpoints to see what happens). The VLC version that's optimized for hanging our TLC Hangers weights is called the VLC-X, and with it weights are secured to a Rod with a quick set screw just as with our TLC-X.

Note that the Size-Genetics-gripping method I'm hearing about seems to squeeze the VLC's tugging handle right near the spot where metal joins silicone. This requires caution as squeezing or twisting the Tugger's handle could weaken its anchoring. You don't want a weak tugger if you're hanging 5 pounds. When that weight drops it could break bones in your foot. The SG attachment method I could get behind would be the one proposed by Mr. Dickleaker where he seems to have secured a screw to the yoke of the SG to act as a cleat that the Tugger handle can hook over. I'll see what it would take to create a non-destructive accessory to give this function.

Anyway, I'm flattered people are talking about our devices. I sell on pretty slim margins considering the hand-fabrication, custom sizing, and low volume. But I was intrigued by Mr. Supra's suggestion that we offer MOS guys a break on shipping because I figured if we get the volume up maybe we can start to be more efficient with our whole line, and then we might be able to help more cut guys with foreskin restoration. Sorry I didn't chime in here sooner but I was unable to log in with an account I had here years ago.

I don't intend to hover over the discussion so speak freely, but I guess I will automatically now get daily emails with new postings since I've made a posting myself. My email and phone number are on every page of my web site if anybody thinks of a question.

Warm Regards and Happy Tugging,
-Ron Low


Hello Ron, I have sent you a couple emails about setting up an affiliation for MOS and your products. Please get back to me on this as I would like to get this set up asap.
 
Just got my VLC today. I'm at a loss! I have no clue on how to put this thing on, please help! I get the skin cone, it's just supposed to keep the skin over the glans. But I have no clue what to do with the white VLC. None of the videos or instructions on the website work for me, whatever strange format they are...?:( I'm thinking how the hell am I going to get enough suction with this thing to use the SG? In supra's pic he doesn't even look like he's using the white VLC? And I see some other silicone thing on the hook that I don't even have. I'm really confused, please help asap.
 
Hey, It's starting to make a bit more sense now because I got the VLC instructions to work with notepad. I didn't know that the skin rolls up onto the VLC and then goes into the skin cone. Just read that right now so it's starting to come together. Going to read some more and see what else it has to say.
 
truant;448163 said:
Hey, It's starting to make a bit more sense now because I got the VLC instructions to work with notepad. I didn't know that the skin rolls up onto the VLC and then goes into the skin cone. Just read that right now so it's starting to come together. Going to read some more and see what else it has to say.
Keep us updated! Good luck!
 
Hey JS
Get it man ...you will gain cause there is no problem wearing it for loooog time now! I had it on for 4 hours last night with great stretch the entire time ! Will be increasing an hour now each time i use it.
I ordered the VLC tugger ...there was no X after VLC.It is ventless tho.If you have any questions ask Ron he will respond pretty quick to u.
You have the rest of ur life to learn this thing! So start off with low tension for a couple of hours for a couple of sessions.
Then when you have confidence go for high tension thats what I m doing cause I learned in Penis Enlargement that intensity matters if u want gains..I have as much tension without pain-hows that.

I use shea butter and vitamin E cream and I use Meladerm to lighten the dark pigmentation I got from the Bathmate.




JohnSwindle;448158 said:
This sounds great.. I can't wait to get the SG now..

Just double checking, what you ordered was the VLC-X Ventless™ Penis Enlargement Tugger?

Can you tell me how to figure out what tension to use? Whats a good stretch feel like, what about a bad one? I don't want to overdue it, but obviously I don't want to have to little tension. It was clear cut with the 1CM more thing but since we are using the VLC, it's different like you said. I don't want to get injured!

Do you guys massage something like cocoa butter after your SG sessions as well?
 
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Just wore the VLC with the SG for about 20 minutes just to test it out. When wearing it, the cone will be below the SG head plate. You will have to mod the head plate like Dickleaker said by drilling a hole or messing around with the existing holes like I did. Because it's below the the head plate, your going to have to add more bars. For now I'm using the 2 big bars on each side, I feel in the future I'm going to need a couple more big bars.

But using all the bars in the SG kit would give you a nice little stretch if you used it long enough, which is possible because this thing is comfortable enough. You basically feel your skin stretching but your also getting that shaft stretch as well. One thing I did notice when I took the VLC off is shiny glans even after only 20 minutes, your glans look really nice and mushroom shaped. That alone is a big plus and I was very horny when I took it off for some reason.

This thing holds too, if you sized right, don't worry about this thing not having grip, because it stays on especially if you apply gold bond or baby powder but you don't even need that to get that hold. Even though your stretching from the bottom of the head plate, I think it's much better than the strap method because your getting better circulation and comfort. You could always buy more big bars in the future, but if you use all the bars in the kit you will get more than enough stretch.
 
Good post truant!
Start stretching man ...am away camping for long weekend but taking my Penis Enlargement equipment with me in case I get a chance to stretch-you know when penis enlargement is addictive when...

I will ask question again

Where would we buy more rods for SG?
 
JohnSwindle;448436 said:
Pretty excited for this.. SG with VLC 3-4 hours daily w/ a Bathmate session.. Hopefully will make some incredible gains within 4-6 months.

No hope involved, if you want it bad enough you will get it.
 
doublelongdaddy;448455 said:
No hope involved, if you want it bad enough you will get it.
I'm going for 1-2" erect gains within 6 months and I think it's possible if I do SG daily 3-4 hours with a 30-60 minute Bathmate session (6-10 minute sets). What do you think DLD? I seem to make gains easily and I'm under 25. I can't wait to be eight inches. The only thing that can stop me is an injury.
 
Hey guys just a little update. Today while experimenting with with the VLC and SG I noticed a really good feature. If your feeling discomfort you can just unhook the VLC and hook it right back on without having to take of the SG! With the strap method you had to take off the SG and and bars, then it was such a hassle to push down the springs and reattach the bars, ect. With this you can simply slide the head plate over the bars hook it right on the the plate. Without having to do the annoying thing of jamming the bars in and screwing them in while your strapped to the head plate. Just found this out today and I'm very happy that I don't to deal with that anymore. If I feel any discomfort I unhook it, rest for minute and hook it right back on without having to go through all that hassle. This means I can wear the SG all day without even having to take the base or bars off! Monster gains!
 
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Note: To do this you may have to hook it on with only one bar already in the SG head plate. Then your going to have to screw in the second remaining bar. It's a little tricky to hook it on while two bars are in the head piece. It's most comfortable to start with with no tension at all and slightly adjust it when you get used to it.
 
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How are guys doing with this? Love to hear some feedback.
 
It's going really well DLD, it feels like my glans are becoming more sensitive and it's really easy to put on and off. Another note I want to add is that you can actually have the 2 bars in the head piece at the same time as you hook it on. The trick is to take both your thumbs and place them at the bottom edges of the hook. If you look at supras pick you can see the hook forming a square, you want to place your thumbs at the 2 bottom corners of that square and lift it up onto your head piece mod. The VLC will lift up nice and easy when your lifting from those corners, and use that method to unhook as well.
 
When I order the SG and VLC w/ skin cone should I just go ahead and order extra rods as well? lol
truant;448628 said:
It's going really well DLD, it feels like my glans are becoming more sensitive and it's really easy to put on and off. Another note I want to add is that you can actually have the 2 bars in the head piece at the same time as you hook it on. The trick is to take both your thumbs and place them at the bottom edges of the hook. If you look at supras pick you can see the hook forming a square, you want to place your thumbs at the 2 bottom corners of that square and lift it up onto your head piece mod. The VLC will lift up nice and easy when your lifting from those corners, and use that method to unhook as well.
 
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