Good comfort and pulling force, with SIZEGENETICS?

Hello friends.
I need some help to determine if I need a penis extender.

I have looked at the SIZEGENETICS and it got good reviews. I have some problem increasing my penis length. I don't think only manual stretches is going to cut it, since I want the length increases to be as fast as possible.

I also need to heal longated in some way, after my stretching routine and Bathmate pumping. I'm not able to keep my penis longated with an Ace Bandage it just fall of (to much foreskin?).

I'm sceptical to the Silicon Sleeves, I think my foreskin is going to get in the way (get pinched), and it's going to irritate the skin. But maybe not?

So far I only use Bathmate pumping, and manual stretching routine, in my PE work. I got the PHALLOSAN forte, but I do not like it (do not fit my glands properly, and I get irritation on the skin of my penis shaft). I apperently have no problem with gaining girth, but the length is more problematic, it's slow...

I wonder if the SIZEGENETICS got a strong pulling force, and if you can sleep with it? I'm comparing SIZEGENETICS to the Jes Extender. Apperently the Jes Extender have not the best pulling force (according to some reviews).
I can only wear the extender at home, and it would be great if I could sleep with it (to optimize my time).

It would be awesome if you guys could share your experiences with the SIZEGENETICS.

Like what type of growth you can expect with it? The comfort? Ability to sleep with it? How many hours can you wear it, without needing to take it off? ... and so on.

Kind regards

What is the jes extender and where do i find it. You should find out if the size genetics extenders end piece is the same width as the stealth master sold in here and the cheap versions sold on Amazon. If it is not you could buy the same exact thing for $25 on Amazon. I own the stealth master and have had mass loads of the cheap versions. They are the same exact things(the difference with the mos stealth version is you get the vaccuum ends and attachment stuff which is good. I was just making a comment asking then question about the size genetics thing. Is it the same width at the end. I am 5” in circumference and it is to small, to tight and gives me a rash. The stealth device and all the cheaper costing versions on amazon. If it is the same then you could just try the $25 ones. These things break very easily. I have broken the stealth device 3x and the other brands 5 or 6x. The tiny thin plastic ends that hold the metal piece will pop if you put just a little to much force on them.
That is another question since the stealth device and the cheaper costing versions are the same exact material and thickness is the size genetics thicker and more solid or will it break easily like the rest. I can say this about MOS-if you send them a photo of where and how it broke they will replace it for free on Amazon I havent even tried but what about size genetics will they replace it?
There, that is my experience and all the questions I want to ask also. So, if anyone reads this and know the answers to those qusetions pop me an answer.

Squirt Man, whats up. If you want to stay extended for a long time you need the silistretcher, all you have to do is put it on and roll down the sleeve without attaching it to the strap. If you strap it you are using it as an extender, if you dont it is just passively holding you in length. I do that when I am sleeping. If I didnt have to get up and piss all the time I could keep it on all night. (Being younger has so many benefits. Do you know my tunica is 2-3x thicker than yours).
You can also use the stealth vacuum ends in the same way. You can also find these on Amazon. I dont know if you can buy 1 piece on Mos but I know that i lost 1 and Mos replaced it for around $64 and the ones on Amazon are the same price but you get all 3 sizes. If you buy the full sili-stretcher you will get all 3 sizes but 2 of them will be useless-1 is so small i couldnt imagine you fitting in it and the other is so big an elephant would have to use it, The middle 1 is perfect and if you are 5” circumference then that would be the one to use. If you are 5” diameter then you would be the big one size and should be a ���� Star.
I dont know if they will sell you the middle piece alone unless you have purchased the whole set but I would try. The whole set is good though, you get to useless pieces but you also get the full strap system, and loads of tubes and caps and you can get a weight measurement device. This one is worth the $200 for sure. The Stealth like I said you can get them cheap, unless the size genetics is different ?. Y
You are right about the foreskin problem if you just use the sleeves. It always bunches up and then the sleeve will slide over the head. That is why i just use the end of the silitretcher or the stealth device and roll the sleeve down and just leave it passively unnatached.
Another thing the stealth devices tubular vacuum end is much less bulkier than the silistretcher, that may help under pants. Maybe the will sell you the vacuum end of the stealth device. Again, you need the middle but can get the large also, you will fit in that 1 eventually-it is way smaller than the giant vacuum ending for the siliatretcher.
Mos has sold me a single vacuum end when it broke(these are difficult to break, not like the palstic end parts). Again, I purchased the whole device(which works great for weight hanging) but maybe theyb will sell you just the 1 middle piece. You can see all these seperate parts on the Mos site just look thru rows of pictures on their respective sales pages.
I was seriously obsessed but have ended up with a load of useless stuff but each of these devices has something usefull to them so I am still glad I got them. I just know now that it is going to be 2-3x more difficult for me just from the tunica thickness.
I have grown to 7” form 6” flaccid but only 6.4 erect-it is something but it is taking a long ass time. Girth I have gotten nothing permanent yet but I will bet the tunica being 2-3x as thick has something to do with it.
You seem to know of other devices and stuff. You mentioned Zen hangers and I checked it out and the only thing they dont have is what I need is the caps-I need caps they break all the time and cost to much on Mos. Do you where they sell caps for about $15.
Oh, you need to use a cap and a sleeve with these vacuum devices. Not just the sleeve, with just the sleeve you are increasing your chance of blisters and pain. I evemn use the white tape and mole skin under neath the cap.
So, what else do you know about and where do I see this Jes thing

@jvf1 Thanks for the info.
It was a long time ago I posted this post, things have changed.
I no longer are going with an extender. The Jes Extender method are going to take to much time. I have read reviews about the Jes Extender, and they where indicating that the pulling force was not high. But it could work.

Jes Extender is a rod based extender, that's weaker (less pulling force) then the SIZEGENETICS. I know this after reading some information on MOS forum.

If I'm going with an extender in the future, it's going to be the SiliStretcher.
I'm focusing on length now. I'm using manual work (with my hands) but soon the LENGTHMASTER 3. I'm healing extended with a bandage wrap.

I don't know anything about Zen hangers?
I don't want to be a ���� star.

hand jobs, huh? The videos that DLD has shown in the beginners section. Are they really doing anything? Are you doing the 600 jelqs and the srt 5x5x3? i dont see how that can actually do anything but I would like to hear if it actually does anything. This isnt advice-the size dr. has everything it is the vacuum which is the same as silkistrecher and the stealth. But it also has the traction, because it locks your head in place inside of it. Since I have all of them, I can only see the vacuum ones holding you stretched but the traction doing the actual work. The size genetics and that type have actually been used in experiments with groups of men and they have shown you can get 1.9” growth in 6 months with 6 hrs a day. They were unimpressed with the results but to me 2” takes you from 6” to 8”- only 15% have 7” and 2%-8” , now look at 1 of the mitty vacs and see the massive difference between 6-8”-It is quite impressive to me. I still cant get the needed 6 hours a day in and I have been using the size dr for 3 months now. After 3 hours I have to take it off because it starts to feel like a blister is coming on. These guys and my experience has finally convinced me that going thru the pain will only cause blisters and to much pain so then I will have to stop for a couple of days(I have managed to figure out how to get over the blisters quickly but you still have to stop for at least 2 days. So, I cant say I have started my 6 months yet. I am going by this 6hrs a day for 6 months experiment that has been proven to work. If I can get up to 6 hrs and 3 is all I can do now.
The elastic stuff with the lengthmaster helped a little but it still gtore me up and made it into some kind of weird shape here parts were very thin and parts think. It was stretched but there still was significant pain. This was bundled and yanked in the 13 directions. I have to experiment with some different materials-mole skin works for minimizing blister on the head but it would nt work wrapped all the way around the whole thing.
I dont see how the bandage works, I cant get it to stay in place.
If anyone else is reading this-1) Is this size dr sold by mos actually 4800g.(the measurement marking for this I am not sure of) vs the regular ones on the market and the Vimedical-the original, patented Size Dr at 2400g-Is it actually double the force thamn the others. I dont care if that is an advertising tool I just need to know if the forse is twice as much. The same goes with your stealth master and the others on the market-Is it 17lbs vs what the others have which is much less.
2) Do i have to pump every day, it seems if I wait a day in between-it is completely back to the way it was but still a lkittle more the next day(of course having to do 15 mins broken up and then the ring for an hour and the 6 hrs in length takes up most of the day-every other day would be better but is that the problem?). Maybe you cant answer that question or any of them but I still must ask.
Last-Is this ball stretching real. If they could get out of the way the size dr would not be as brutal after 3 hours. If it is real or works-How do you do it-How many hours do you leave it on, metal or rubber-The one you guys sell is another brutal device that I am going to leave to you S&M people but there are these metal ones I see and rubber oxballs but how do you use them 6 hours, 1 hour?

Yes manual work does work, you should take a look at this, Beginners manual penis enlargement guide.
- I'm doing a modified version of this program. I'm keeping it as intense as possible, and as simple as possible.
I'm doing my program every day (no rest days) with a total time of: 1 hour and 40 minutes.

An extender "only" extends the penis in one direction, you want manual work (pulling/pushing/stretching) in all possible directions.
- You probably knows this already, you want to heal longated.

That's what I have learned. But you can combine an extender with manual work. You can read more about this concept and more in the SRT.

SRT(Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory).

I hope this helps.

No, bud I already told you I cant do handwork because of carpal tunnel. However I still dont buy the hand work. Once you have proved I will think about it but I still will never be able to do it. You can do alomost aevery direction even with gthe Size Dr. With the stealth and silistretcher, you can do all 13 dirs and truly pull it all the way up your ass towards your neck if you want. You get a full strap system with all the stretcher kits. there is also a serious stretcher kit you can get for like 70 bucks. This thing has a utilty belt where I swear if you wanted to you could wrap it around your waist, it has neck, shoulder strap, a powerful knee strap and even an ankle strap. It is aserious thing. I havent used it all but whenever I use the lengthmaster I do the 13 directions. I am sticking with the size Dr. because it is the 1st thing I have seen anything happen after a couple of yours of spradic work.
I should say I did the hand stuff at the beginning. At 6” I found the wrap around the wrist exercises unworkable. You keep it up. If you are a squirt master why do you want to get bigger, is it just using your hands and that is the ultimate goal anyway is it not. If you dont want to be a ���� star. Which I am to old to be. Then why? Do you think that it is not enough for women because then I would agree with you. I dont care what is said about the average guy being 51/2” and that is what women want. It dont work for me. However, I dont give a fuck about locker rooms or being in comparison with other dudes or even for women to say Wow! You will need about 10” for that which is kind of ridiculous to aim for because that is double and would be like putting a dish in your lip, which takes those girls a long time and they start as kids.
The sili stretcher with the strap kit can give you all 13 angles and extreme tension. The only thing you wont get is traction.

squirt_inducer_man said:

Yes manual work does work, you should take a look at this, Beginners manual penis enlargement guide.
- I'm doing a modified version of this program. I'm keeping it as intense as possible, and as simple as possible.
I'm doing my program every day (no rest days) with a total time of: 1 hour and 40 minutes.

An extender "only" extends the penis in one direction, you want manual work (pulling/pushing/stretching) in all possible directions.
- You probably knows this already, you want to heal longated.

That's what I have learned. But you can combine an extender with manual work. You can read more about this concept and more in the SRT.

SRT(Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory).

I hope this helps.

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SRT is the world's best routine

What up with the 1 sentence answers, DLD. How do you know it is the worlds best. You created so of course that is your opinion. Joking with you. How could you do a test anyway. If you want to prove it to me then come up with the alternative way to do SRT with some kind of device or devices that are either already on the market or that you and S.I. and H.G. create.
I hav tried a large and a small pizza roller for that flattening exercise video you made. It doesnt do anything that can be noticed. I am trying a jar cap remover but it is not very comfortable.
I have actually done it for a few weeks and I didnt see any difference. The only way I am noticing any difference is now that I am doing it 3x a day pumping for 10 mins at 15psi. after putting 2 rings on at the top and bottom for 1 hour. That is everyday. I dont believe I will be able to keep that up though, so we will see if it is gone as soon as I have to stop for a a day or more.
I am trying to do this 3 x a day pumping and 1 hour with rings right after. I will probably only be able to manage doing it evry other day. I cant do the 5 minutes of hand work in between unless you have a device for that(that $39 device with the pink rubber in it, that is sold thru MOS, does not work at all).
Every day I attach with the size Dr. until I can not tolerate it anymore, so far 3 hours is max (no blisters, no cuts). Goal is 6 hours and I am trying to figure out a way to stay extended whil i am sleeping using the sili stretcher or just the caps for the stealth device. It is troublesome because I have to wake up and piss every 2 hours and you have to take it off all the way if you dont want to piss all over yourself and the bathroom and for me it is a hassle putting those sleeves on and off with the cap beneath it.. 3 x pumping every other day with 1 hour silirings(and on the pumping days I hang with 5-7lbs for 20 mins because I have noticed when I get all pumped up to the max, it is hard to keep it up but using weights makes the root stronger and able to keep it up better. (Now, honestly let me tell you I am 58 and have this fucking bullshit ed crap so everything is a hassle for me in the 1st place. Besides that at 58 my tunica is 2-3x as thick as 20 and 30 year olds and my hands are all fucked up from carpal tunnel syndrome so it is all uphill for me, all up hill beck and forth to school). I know you said you used 1/2 tablet of viagra when you were doing it, Dld. I didnt know that it even had an effect on someone who didnt have ed.
So, my goal is to get up to 6 hrs in the size dr, use the sili-stretcher to stay passively extended as long as possible everyday and also use the length master if I can get something to put under my skin that will cause it not be shredded (is it supposed to look like a mutated pretzel after you yank it for 11/2 minutes in all 13 directions?
Now, that is ten tons of work because I cant do anything when the size dr is attached but sit still and putting on and taking off sleeves and all the little extras you have to do and clean-up, requires 3/4 a day. I am not countin the start of my 6 month trial to see if this truly works to gain 1.9” in length and hopefully some girth until I can fully do the 6 hours a day in the size dr, stay extende for anotherv 4 hours and pump 3 fullx with 1 hour on the rings and use the lengtghmaster whenever I feel up to the torture. Then I will tell you if I have succeded. I know that it is going to be 3x as hard for me but I think the size dr is a serious device.
Hey, thanks for the contact, even though you barely say anything it is appreciated.
Looks like I got a trophy, is there a reward. I need some free sili-caps-How about it?

squirt_inducer_man said:

Yes manual work does work, you should take a look at this, Beginners manual penis enlargement guide.
- I'm doing a modified version of this program. I'm keeping it as intense as possible, and as simple as possible.
I'm doing my program every day (no rest days) with a total time of: 1 hour and 40 minutes.

An extender "only" extends the penis in one direction, you want manual work (pulling/pushing/stretching) in all possible directions.
- You probably knows this already, you want to heal longated.

That's what I have learned. But you can combine an extender with manual work. You can read more about this concept and more in the SRT.

SRT(Suppressed-Restricted-Transposition Theory).

I hope this helps.

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I do that routine with the lengthmaster. However 900 jelqs-no way, after about 50 my hands look like bird claws.
That doesnt prove anything SI, The research on length was a real scientific experiment done with people in a lab. If I didnt see that I never would have even started. You will have to tell me if you acvtually see any changes by hand. I am doing all that stuff with the lengthmaster the size dr and the mitty vacs. I just cant the srt-which is basically just the 5x5x3-I do the 5 mins pumping 3x but I cant do the 5 mins squeezing the 1” area. Now that may help the pumping keep its size longer but I just cant do it. The only alternative for me is to just attach the sili-rings for 1 hour after which Huge Girth adbvised me. I am sure Srt is good and I do it basically and I do the 13 stretches with the length master. But 900 jelqs-No way and I dont believe that can really do anything. When you start using the devices you wont be able to tell what is working so you should record it and see if the jelquing does anything before you start devices.
Maybe that is why I got blister and even today use moleskin as blister prevention because I couldnt do the 900 jelqs at 1st? That is a possibility. But I noticed with pumping all my blood vessels would pop for many months and now that doesnt happen because of time and practice(or maybe it is because I use a full sili-cap all the time nowadays?)
here is somthing I can say to you. You will get absolutely nothing if you do this sporadically I did it like that for 2 years, stopping for weeks at ax and nothing ever stuck

I know it's the best because everyone who uses it makes gains. I personally gained over 2 inches in length and an inch of girth. Sorry for short answers as I am on a very slow old phone. My advice is to follow SRT to the t and you will do well. If you have anymore questions please make them short and specific and I will do my best to answer.

did i not say about 1,000x i cant do the srt because my hands cant do the squeezing. tell me the alternative just using devices. if you did it, that does not mean others can. i want squirt inducer to tell me when he has done it. i am not trying to disput your accomplishment. i do remember reading your claim that you are the mostv knowledgeable obseesed person ever on the penis. So, you may be the exception. 1) How does anyone know how hard they are supposed to pull or squeeze-any device is consistent in pressure? Do you know? 2) How do we know that your hands cant pressure 50x more stregth that Me or SI? WE cant. 3)There are to many variables-What if someone is doing it slightly different and that might cause it not to work? What if SI starts doing it 1” from where you started it. Or maybe you remeber you did it for 30 secs but maybe 4 or 5x you drank coffee or did meth(if you never did-disregard that), either way-those days you did it 500x more and that may have been what did it for you?
I will give you an example that is as close as I can get to this. Stretching your legs into a full side split. Now, this is extremely difficult and takes many years. In martial arts training. You are pushed far beyond your extreme and some quit and some go thru it. My teacher would actually come up behind me and push down on me until it hurt like a mother. I got down very close. A few years later I quit training and got into drugs. There were sometimes that I took meth and would go into a streching fit and stretch for 4 or 5 hours pushing myself so far beyond the training that I shocked myself. All of the sudden months later I could go all the way down and even further.
So, those few x i went obseessively insane most likely caused the full split. How do we know that a few times doing your PE training that youndidnt getv a rush of adrtenaline(you dont need to do meth to get super psyched up and push yourself to the extreme) and gon way beyond normal. You might not even know.
Anyway, SRT may or may not be the best. Hand work may or may not work for everybody. It worked for you but might not for me. I have no idea what you actually did just some vague words and simple videos. I would have to see what you did every day, know how strong your hand is compared to mine… With the size Dr or silistretcher. It is the exact same tension all the time. Even with the devices I dont know exactly how many hours are needed or exactly what tension. That is why I am going to the maximum tension and building up the amount of hours I can tolerate until I get to 6 hours, I can only do 3 hours at this time after 3 months every day.

**** Let me REPEAT this again-I CANT DO THE SRT PROGRAM OR ANY JELQUING-My wrists have CARPAL TUNNEL SYNDROME-THey cant squeeze anything for to long. IF you have an alternative to SRT that uses only devices or machines then tell me what it IS. NO HAND SQUEEZING.

I will lay out a whole bunch of Questions I have in short form- 1st-I dont know shit about computers or ipads… Even though I have used this thing for many years, trying to study the workings of it turns my mind into melted chewing gum. Same goes for websites.
Who gets to read what I write in this section. Is this only seen by DLD and squirt inducer or what? If so, where is there a general area where many people can see what you write. I have noticed even when I write under a certain section-for example bathmate-Dld is still the one who writes back to me? You can give me a short answer —-

#2 Weights before pumping or weights after pumping?

For Dld I have read all your stuff-a long time ago so it is not fresh in my bmemory I remeber something about Pyramid weights and backwards pyramid weights because you have dyslexia. (If you have a problem reading all the bullshit I write In apologize-it is a bad habit and everybody hates it-but Ib dont seem to be able to stop-because I never vfeel like I am fully explaining myself-Sorry)
There was nothing clarified about this program or hanging in general.
1-How do you do it?
2-How much weight for a begginner, how long to do it and How?
3-What is just a plain old hanging routine compared to your system?

You dont have to answer these soon or at all. I actually dont excpect you to respond at all. I never do buut you do anyway. Thanks
I remeber I saw a system you created for people who were over weight and were doing this and it was like an experiment of yours. I cant find it anymore where is it located at? You said in there to doeither vweights or aerobic before bed I dont remeber which 1?
2) also why right before bed
3) I need something to do for a few months because I just had a full knee replacement surgery and it sounded reasonable. In a year or so I will start serious training at a gym
4-You can just point out where to find it

You can just point out where to find any of the answers to these questions
1) Ball stretching-1-How to do it? 2-With what? 3-Does it work? 4-I have seen 2 measurements for it-where do you measure? 5-How long do you do it for ?

Where do I get caps that dont break?

I have finally figured out how to stay stretched all day and even thru the night. You have to take an old sleeve that has been overstretched a 1” sleeve that you have used like 50x and it has to be the softest version #2 and it will be easy to put on and will stay on without squeezing until you feel like you are bleeding. You can even piss with it on. The duros or #5s or a new one will kill you but an old stretched #2 is working. Ok I still have aload of questions but I will wait

jvf1 said:

I will lay out a whole bunch of Questions I have in short form- 1st-I dont know shit about computers or ipads… Even though I have used this thing for many years, trying to study the workings of it turns my mind into melted chewing gum. Same goes for websites.
Who gets to read what I write in this section. Is this only seen by DLD and squirt inducer or what? If so, where is there a general area where many people can see what you write. I have noticed even when I write under a certain section-for example bathmate-Dld is still the one who writes back to me? You can give me a short answer —-

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