I tried the tugger and couldnt get it to work. I think I have don't have enough skin. I'm sorry to hear about the blisters but the skin is caught and held by friction and a blister could occur. Fuck that. I pulled a blister from using my modified phalosan (my fault for not tapping it completely) it took forever to heal and you have to avoid sex cause she'll think you got herpes. I told mine I got it caught in my zipper. Well, Ive been using the modified vacextender before the tugger http://www.autoextender.com/products.html. It has worked well. but you have to tape the entire head(pain in the ass). better than the strapping but not great, ie. I still need to remove every 1hour or so but its more comfortable. IDK how anyone can wear any extender strapping method for more than 40 min without pain.
 
fonic;447665 said:
i asked the question earlier in this thread, can you pull a blister from this, and stillwantmore was the only one wise enough to realise you could, a just wished i had listened.

because if i had listened that thing would never have been near my glans, now this may only happen to me who knows, but for sure after all my years doing pe only problems

i ever encounter is glans attachments/ devices, i'm more than done with pulling from that area from now on. the blisters were on the outermost tip either side of euretha,

even writing thinking about the visual as i took that tugger off turns my stomach lol was it too long 3 hours well at the time i wasn't thinking that because this was meant

to be safe, no problems. what could go wrong? normally extending i feel the base of the extender tight to my body, going straight out, not with this tugger though its all

pressure to the glans, obviously in my case far too much pressure has resulted in my downfall, imo you would need a lighter than light stretch for many years using this

to gain, the brunt force is all on the tip of glans, oh well (sigh) back to the drawing board for me.

I read in your previous post that you use the heavy duty stretcher, well that bad-boy can operate at 10 pounds tension. I don't know how much you've used that time though???
All the best for with the recovery man.

When going for long wearing times (about6-8h), low tension is the way to go. For extenders, the tension can best be kept in between the first and second tension bar.
I'm still curious on the VLC + extender combo, anybody else tried this?
 
KingCobra;447687 said:
I read in your previous post that you use the heavy duty stretcher, well that bad-boy can operate at 10 pounds tension. I don't know how much you've used that time though???
All the best for with the recovery man.

When going for long wearing times (about6-8h), low tension is the way to go. For extenders, the tension can best be kept in between the first and second tension bar.
I'm still curious on the VLC + extender combo, anybody else tried this?

i was using a combo of heavy duty, size genetics and the tugger, as for tension the springs were barely even compressed, this tugger stretches your glans way longer than usual,

its just not right for me, way too much pressure is put on the tip, and i honestly don't have the time left to spend years going at a very low tension to see anything, i hope it works

out for the rest of you guys, never again for me though. a just thought you could only get blistered from vacuum hanging and stuff not from this, pretty stupid i know in hindsight,

but we all live and learn. best of luck fellas. i may be an isolated case hopefully.
 
Damn fonic that does sound gut wrenching, sorry to here brother. I ordered my VLC yesterday with the 3-pack skin cone (RC14). Ron did say to use with washed skin when I was emailing him. I also emailed Ron about your problem and copied and pasted your post about when you got the blisters to see what he says. I'll post the response when I get it.
 
In the mean time I did a google search on how to prevent blisters. One site said to use gold bond, is is safe to put gold bond on your glands if I wanted to use the VLC with the SG? Maybe your blister was caused by sweat mixed with the pinching. When I get my VLC I would wear it an hour max with low tension. Then wash the glands after every hour and apply lotion and gold bond, or maybe you could even use a small piece of medical tape at the tip of your glands to avoid this?
 
truant;447717 said:
In the mean time I did a google search on how to prevent blisters. One site said to use gold bond, is is safe to put gold bond on your glands if I wanted to use the VLC with the SG? Maybe your blister was caused by sweat mixed with the pinching. When I get my VLC I would wear it an hour max with low tension. Then wash the glands after every hour and apply lotion and gold bond, or maybe you could even use a small piece of medical tape at the tip of your glands to avoid this?

i salute your bravery truant!!! my minds scarred now, won't be going down any road from now on where it involves the glans as an attachment point,

just be careful buddy, you don't even feel it happening, just not gonna break down any barriers imo going at low tensions whats the point. i'd be

in a wheelchair before i see gains that way.
 
fonic I'm sorry to hear about the blisters but much respect for being a trail blazer. I would have never thought of getting blisters from this but now I see why, and because of you I can take steps to avoid them. It does sound like the VLC was comfortable enough for you to go three hours in it.

I kind of see why you would get a blister because the pinching combined with sweat and tension from the SG, also the fact it was on for 3 hours straight. You can get 1 inch wide medical tape at walmart, cut a little piece and stick it over the pee pee hole. You can even get the wider coach tape so it can cover a bigger surface area.

The medical tape a long with gold bond or corn starch might help prevent the blisters. DLD recommends wearing the SG 1 - 1.5 hours max maybe even 2 hours TOPS when your better conditioned. Especially with tugging, you have to seriously take baby steps.
 
something i should add, i did check by removing the tugger once during this timeframe about an hour and fifteen mins in, there was no blisters at that time,

all i could see was skin very red around an area where the tugger was gripping, and you could clearly see the area and shape of the tugger imprinted on my glans,

it doesn't grip on a big area, to me it focuses on a very small section, which is no good to me, your trying to stretch dick and grow, using the weakest point.

from looking at the vids on tugger site its all very gentle tugging, like baby soft, using straps not extenders, so for me anything you do with this is gonna be overkill.
 
Darn. Now I'm discouraged to get one after hearing that :/

i was hoping to get this to wear after my hanging sets but looks like I'll end up just making the velcro strap mod instead.
 
Hey Fonic...very sorry to hear how it worked out for u!
Now I am discouraged as well and i haven't even received mine in mail yet :(

I wonder how Supra managed to go 8 hours a day with his and gain so much in 2 months-I think alot of guys are waiting to hear from him.

Hope you have a speedy recovery and you are back at Penis Enlargement soon in other ways to grow ur dick man.
Best wishes!!
fonic;447723 said:
something i should add, i did check by removing the tugger once during this timeframe about an hour and fifteen mins in, there was no blisters at that time,

all i could see was skin very red around an area where the tugger was gripping, and you could clearly see the area and shape of the tugger imprinted on my glans,

it doesn't grip on a big area, to me it focuses on a very small section, which is no good to me, your trying to stretch dick and grow, using the weakest point.

from looking at the vids on tugger site its all very gentle tugging, like baby soft, using straps not extenders, so for me anything you do with this is gonna be overkill.
 
Ron just responded to my email, this is what I said in the email...

I just ordered the SKU# VLC yesterday a long with the 3-pack skin cone (RC14) like you suggested. Today I was reading through the matters of size forums, the thread that supra made about using the VLC with the extender. Here is what one member posted that recently ordered and tried it out.

''used the tugger first time tonight, i took it off after 3 hours use, i'm absolutely devastated, i have two of the largest blisters you could ever imagine, filled with water and blood.

never even felt it happening, so fucking sick right now, i can tell with the size of these i'm out for a long time, straight in the bin with tugger, not safe enough in my book.''

Reading this had gotten me a little scared, what do you think happened to him? How can I avoid this when I get the VLC and I use it with my extender? Thank you

This is Ron's response...

Hi,
Thanks for your note. I would remind you that we offer a three-month no-questions-asked refund option period. It makes me wonder if that posting is authentic. Who would throw something out instead of returning it for a refund?

You'll need to use gentle tension. Start with literally zero and only increase this setting after you get through a few spans of several hours with no discomfort and no loosening. Always work with a given tension setting for a least a few days before increasing the tension, and again only sneak it tighter if you're having no discomfort.

Always apply a freshly washed device to freshly washed skin.

Regards,
-Ron

It seems like you have to start with very low tension and work your way up. Hope you didn't throw it away fonic because he will give you the refund.
 
hey truant, i appreciate your endeavour finding out this info, i didn't throw out its still sitting there, but i'm not gonna chase a couple of dollars sending an item back across the world,

you take your chance, pay the price and move on, simple fact is i wasn't aware anything could go wrong using this, but everyone knows now it can go horribly wrong, hopefully lessons

are learned and you guys can make it work, ill say it again i cannot see big gains from this using anchor point glans now that I've had first hand experience using this, best thing i can see

is doing your normal manual or strap size genetics work, then attaching tugger to leg with zero force used just to keep things pulled out.
 
fonic when using the strap method do you strap it right onto your glands or about 1/2 inch below your glands? What are you really supposed to do? Because if I use the velcro mod over my glands it always slips off. I think your supposed to pull from the glands, so that's where the VLC will come in.
 
Also I want to let you guys know I found something to use for those 2 tube like things that's holding the clip of the VLC in supra's pic. I just found one of the glue sticks for a hot glue gun. I cut 2 pieces 1 inch long and I had to trim them a little with a knife so they can fit in the two holes of the SG head plate. It looks just like supra's mod.
 
truant;447761 said:
fonic when using the strap method do you strap it right onto your glands or about 1/2 inch below your glands? What are you really supposed to do? Because if I use the velcro mod over my glands it always slips off. I think your supposed to pull from the glands, so that's where the VLC will come in.

hey, yip i have to strap almost right on ridge otherwise it just slips, even then its a struggle, my search continues for the perfect device setup. would really love some company coming up with something new and innovative.
 
Try the neoprene drink holder idea with the velcro mod, DLD suggests mole skin, or maybe even one of those silicone sleeves they sell on the auto extender website. Yeah I'm surprised the noose method is the best the Size Genetics company can come up with.
 
HEy Guys .
I got my VLC tugger today and it is a perfect fit and is so comfortable!Have been hanging a couple of pounds for about an hour and feel nice stretch in my shaft...again so comfortable and easy to put on!
I am going to modify the white plastic end piece of the SG by drilling a small hole in the end and put a small screw in the hole .I can then just clip the end of the tugger over the screw and start stretching with the SG.
In light of Fonic's recent nightmare injury I will be taking it off every hour and checking for blisters/fluid retention ,etc. until i get used to the whole setup and how my body responds to it...looks VERY promising!
 
JUst had a thought for guys who don't have alot of money to buy the SG extender ...just get the VLC tugger and hang weights from it .
Will get the same stretch and u can progressively increase the weights as you become used to them !
 
Any chance you could do a quick tutorial on how to modify the SG for the VLC (with pictures)? Im going to get the SG soon and I'm afraid I'll ruin it!

With the VLC/SG combo are we still trying to stretch only 1 CM more than out max flaccid stretch?
 
That's good news dickleaker, that gives me hope. I should be getting my VLC tomorrow or the next day. If you can hang for an hour it must be comfortable enough with the SG. Supra also said he noticed his glans becoming more sensitive so I'm excited about that aspect as well. Keep us posted DL, let me know how it goes with the SG.
 
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