Also if I wasn't having so much fun with the LG Hanger I was thinking of switching anyway. With working 60 hours a week, going to NA meetings almost daily, hitting the gym hardcore and having a budding social life its hard to always find 2 hours a day to hang. Hardcore hanging is starting to look pretty attractive with only doing 1 or 2 20 min sets, plus I know how well my body responds to heavy ass weight. I know I would still have to start out light to learn all the nuances of the Bib and then slowly build up in weight then. I've even been thinking of just adding a set with the bib here and there just to learn how to attach it properly but still get my actual workout from the LG. Once I get back into my original career I will have more time to hang because then I'd only be working 40 hours a week and I'm hoping to get back in a few months.