Hey z06vet2003, what hanging angles do you use in your Penis Enlargement training. Also do you follow the LOT theory? What is your opinion on the LOT theory.
 
z06vet2003;363154 said:
Thank you for your quick responce Dash. Over the years I have spoke to several people that have reported the SAME thing. HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK !!!
I had lengthening surgery through a very well known doctor out of Beverly Hills. Since he was also a close college friend. I did some PR for him. Those that had the surgery and did the heavy weights gained several inches. in one case a Florida Man gained over 6 inches using Heavy weights (20lbs+) after surgery Its been a couple of years since I spoke to him, but he was up to 60lbs and was over 12 inches long. This gain is BACKED and documented by the doctor himself.
I'm sure that I'm not the only member to be shocked by a 6 inch gain and a resulting length of more than 12 inches. Please post as much of the doctor's documentation of gains via hanging as possible. Even a link would be helpful.
 
Dash your hanging ideas along with a few others were really what helped me form my own theories and ultimately way to gain by hanging.

I have grown over 1.5 bpfsl hanging to date. I believe most people are held up by two things in hanging

1) beliefs about time under tension. my basic question is... on a frozen lake what is more likely to crack the ice. a 100 pound rock placed in the center for 5 minutes or a 50 pound rock placed for 20 minutes. the goal for me is always weight. why? I believe in the simple math that 40 pounds will pull out more penis than 10 pounds (in a time sensitive world that is - some poeple have unlimited amounts of time to train)

2) comfort / pain in wrong places...and most people do not know this is a limitation. yes ...take a vacuum hanger... most people cannot hang over 20 pounds on one why? pain and stress in the wrong places. I am hanging 5 minute sets with up to 40 pounds with the bib hardcore. night and day over the bib hanger...(max of 25 pounds) but had i never bought this hanger i would have never know.

So...experiment..wrap higher adn some of the nutsack if you need too...find a way to get the stress in the right spot. get an IR lamp and warmup before you hang...and keep heat when you do hang. now..pull that shit out my friends!!!
 
Lots of questions to answer. I am NOT the doctor that can provide documentation. I can only say that I have personally spoke to both doctor and the Man from Florida to say he HAS gained 6" in erect length from haveing the surgery and hanging very heavy weights. His procedure is almost identical to Dash's. except.. that this man kept going!!!! he slowly used heavy weights over years. He added more weights as he reached each level that he no longer gained length he added more weight. The last time I spoke to him he was up to 12" and using 60lbs. I have heard of others gaining in excess of 4 inches in erect length AFTER SURGERY. Speaking for myself, I can say this I gained roughly 1.25" using light weights and longer periods of time after my surgery. But Dash's method seem to have merit..
 
Excuse my ignorants but are you guys talking about lengthen surgery where they cut the supensory ligiment?
 
I am back hanging after being away from it for several years. I was up to 25 pounds and defintely made some increse in leangth. I have been stuck in this length issue for a long time so thinking that hanging might budge me off the line.
Most of you know that I had severe Peyronies disease and have had to take it easy to get my penis healed and strong again. I think I am there. I have gained back the length I lost and am now working to get some extra length.

I have a Bib hardcore, used the Bib original as well in the past. The Hardcore is easy for me to use. I learned that the key is the wrapping. Once you get that down, it takes the pain away if you have everything set right.

I also have been using a fulcrum. I have been using a "vaccum cleaner extension" and the "power assist" for fulcrum.

I have been hanging over the pipe and that gives a tremendous stretch and using the power assist also makes some awesome stretch. I put the hanger through the hole of the power assist and let the weight hang over the assist. Putting the assist on my legs and raising it up makes an awesome stretch. I think that it is inceasing the weight pull.

I have been doing three 20 minutes sets twice a day but still at low weight. Will start working back up to heavier weight.

Where are you men feeling that the stretch is coming from...the base the over all shaft...any part or portion of the penis that you think is giving more?

Any advice would be appreciated. My penis is in shape to take anything I give it as I have been working it hard for years. I still have some scar tissue from the peyronies to worry about it but it doesn't bother me any. Girth is about 6 inches except where the scar from the peyronies is, it is narrow there looking down from the top but from the side is deep.

I can flaccid stretch bone pressed 8 inches now. Hanging and working the power assist is giving some flexability to the shaft and seems to be giving me some "give" to that whole penile tissue. GS
 
Lengthening surgery.. In just the past couple or few years. Doctors have changed the way they cut the ligament during lengthening surgery. What they now do is cut the ligament and reconnect a much smaller portion and much lower. Most of us our attached very high and give us that erection that stands straight up against our belly. The new procedure now will lower your angle of your dangle and allows greater length gains through the use of weights and progress faster than fighting the full tension of the ligament. Most who have the surgery gain between a 1/2" to 2" by using low weights for about 6 months. But a few that went heavy weights and for years have gained 3+ inches. For myself I gained about an 1.5" in about a year of light weight. I heard of the heavy weights but I always got blisters and just gave up and stuck to the 10lbs and under. Now that I have fixed the blister problem I normally hang 15 to 25LBs for an 1 hour a day (instead of the 4 to 8 hours with light weights) and after 2 months I have increased my BPSL by a 1/2".
 
airshy;363354 said:
Dash your hanging ideas along with a few others were really what helped me form my own theories and ultimately way to gain by hanging.

I have grown over 1.5 bpfsl hanging to date. I believe most people are held up by two things in hanging

1) beliefs about time under tension. my basic question is... on a frozen lake what is more likely to crack the ice. a 100 pound rock placed in the center for 5 minutes or a 50 pound rock placed for 20 minutes. the goal for me is always weight. why? I believe in the simple math that 40 pounds will pull out more penis than 10 pounds (in a time sensitive world that is - some poeple have unlimited amounts of time to train)

2) comfort / pain in wrong places...and most people do not know this is a limitation. yes ...take a vacuum hanger... most people cannot hang over 20 pounds on one why? pain and stress in the wrong places. I am hanging 5 minute sets with up to 40 pounds with the bib hardcore. night and day over the bib hanger...(max of 25 pounds) but had i never bought this hanger i would have never know.

So...experiment..wrap higher adn some of the nutsack if you need too...find a way to get the stress in the right spot. get an IR lamp and warmup before you hang...and keep heat when you do hang. now..pull that shit out my friends!!!

It's thinking like this that keep guys moving forward. When I was hanging, I had a lot of time on my hands. Therefor, it never really made sense to me at the time to focus on always adding more weight. I did, but only to a certain level. I ''topped out'' at around 27.5lbs, and it was rare that I used that much. I focused more on how long cumulatively I hung per day. Looking back on things though, I'm willing to bet a testicle per se, that if I had focused less on total time, and more on weight progression...I would have made better gains in less time. I'm a married man now, and in school. Things are definitely different. I 'may' one day re-approach Penis Enlargement. Possibly hanging, but it's not the first thought on my mind these days.

Keep at it though gents. keep trying new things, and seeing what works, and report back!
 
I,m just talking out loud, here,but maybe the secret to continuing on a steady rate of gain is to add more weight. Since a good number of us have done the 5-10LB for long periods of time. I know I gained but it seemed after a while, it just STOPPenis EnlargementD. THe key may to serious length gain is to SHOCK our members with a change. Maybe our penis just builds up a resistence to the weight we currently are hanging, and needs to be increased to break down. If you put all the pieces of this puzzle together from all the different reports we hear. The method may just be hanging for an hour or so everyday, until the gains stop and then jump up another couple of pounds.We all realize that this is not a quick fix, but depending on our goals it could take quite a while. Speaking for myself, If I could show 1/4" gains every 3 months ,and I had to add 2 lbs every 3 months. In order for me to make my goal of 11 inches(bpsl) . It would take 2 years 6 months and at the end I,d be hanging WOW 45LBs..
OK.. just need to figure out a way to progressively add weights to the system I,m using
 
z06vet2003;367182 said:
I,m just talking out loud, here,but maybe the secret to continuing on a steady rate of gain is to add more weight. Since a good number of us have done the 5-10LB for long periods of time. I know I gained but it seemed after a while, it just STOPPenis EnlargementD. THe key may to serious length gain is to SHOCK our members with a change. Maybe our penis just builds up a resistence to the weight we currently are hanging, and needs to be increased to break down. If you put all the pieces of this puzzle together from all the different reports we hear. The method may just be hanging for an hour or so everyday, until the gains stop and then jump up another couple of pounds.We all realize that this is not a quick fix, but depending on our goals it could take quite a while. Speaking for myself, If I could show 1/4" gains every 3 months ,and I had to add 2 lbs every 3 months. In order for me to make my goal of 11 inches(bpsl) . It would take 2 years 6 months and at the end I,d be hanging WOW 45LBs..
OK.. just need to figure out a way to progressively add weights to the system I,m using



You have the idea there bud. BUT.... gaining is not a linear thing. In other words, you will gain length faster early in your hanging career than you will later in your career in spite of your increased weight. You will gain if you hang in there but it will take longer than you think. Please be careful and don't hurt yourself bro.
 
Dash - I went through all 13 pages and never found a picture of your hanger. Can you please post one? I need a visual as your directions did not seem very easy to follow.
 
Well, I would recommend the BIB line of products over building a hanger (even if like the one I built) simply because his hangers are more refined and and streamlined. Probably not the answer you want to hear but there is not a hanger out there that will beat what he is making and the price is fair too as far as I am concerned. Because he is using a molding process gives his products a huge leg up on anything we can shop build. What you would build from my instructions would be a great prototype but, as we all know, prototypes are rough and not streamlined like a production model product. I have absolutely no ties are gain with BIB so don't bother going there....he simply has a great product so do yourself a favor and check it out.
 
Not to mention he helps EVERY DAY on his forum. He answers questions in detail and literally multiple times a day. Genuinely nice guy.
 
ironaddict69;368390 said:
Not to mention he helps EVERY DAY on his forum. He answers questions in detail and literally multiple times a day. Genuinely nice guy.

Absolutely he is a great guy and is very supportive of the Penis Enlargement community. The man makes a very good product. I have absolutely nothing to gain and have no affiliation with BIB or his products. I am just simply stating the facts.
 
Dash,

Do you find that you do reach fatigue when hanging one set. What are your thoughts on "riding the fatigue"? Did you increase your weight each week by 1-2 pounds to reach the weight your currently hanging at?
 
I am also curious of Conrad's question, I could never hit fatigue with only two sets but my ligs and tunica are like steel.
 
I don't want to advise anyone to jump up in weight too fast. HOWEVER, hard core hanging is just that: going up in weight very fast.

I have been experimenting with this for the past 2 months. I am at 32.5 lbs right now. The fatigue is serious! I follow my 1-session Bib hang with the HDSS and often have to take it off because of the soreness. For those of you who know what fatigure feels like: I like it but it can be too much sometimes.

I've been increasing the weight about every 2 to 3 weeks (I started at 25 lbs). Keep in mind I've hung as much as this in the past and I'm very well conditioned. It did however take some time to adjust to this, perhaps 3 weeks. I tried multiple sets once but the skin pain is too great. Occasionally I'll hang twice in a day: morning and then night.

The HDSS makes the single session's effect last a long time. I've picked up 3/8" EL since starting about Christmas. I wasn't actually planning to start another round of Penis Enlargement, I was just curious about the subject of this thread. This is definetly going to be my last round of Penis Enlargement as I am bordering on too big for anal and oral.
 
More,

Congrats on your gains. What position are you hanging in? Can you jump straight into the heavy weight you mentioned? Or do you need to pyramid the weight through the set the reach your max weight?
 
conrad201;370771 said:
What position are you hanging in? Can you jump straight into the heavy weight you mentioned? do you need to pyramid the weight through the set the reach your maxt?
I "jumped in" at 20 lbs. I have been raising by 2.5 lbs each time I raise it. I just do one set at 20 minutes SOL and SOR (10 minutes each). I then put on the HDSS at about 4 or 5 lbs just to ride it a while. That time varies depending on my schedule.
 
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