SizeGenetics noose issues

Hello fellow gainers in training,

So I've seen a few discussions about the noose, but haven't seen answers I am looking for.

I just got the SizeGenetics - Penis Traction Extender ultimate a few days ago, and set it up as recommended, but I had a few issues. Firstly, having a really hard time keeping the traction at the first top bar (1200g according to the manual), it hovers just above it, and the threads were showing on the adjustment screws on the bottom (didn't unthread fully though). Used 1 and .25 inch bars.

Secondly, and probably most importantly, the noose is super restrictive to my head. After about an hour, the head is purple, and somewhat hurts to the touch. The obvious answer is loosen the strap, but then I slip out. I am using the little foam pad, just behind my head, and putting the strap on that.

My SG came with three sets of holes, one set in the front, and one set in the back, and the comfort strap slots. I tried the back holes today with somewhat better success, but still issues with restriction, and somewhat issues with tension even when adding the bigger .5 inch bar, and when it came time to remove it, my head was quite sensitive and painful (that tube is really tight in the holes and hard to remove, have to reach under my shaft and head and yank up, ow)


So, can I use the back holes for the noose, is that viable? Can't see what else they'd be for...

Any tips for traction not staying at the first notch? Even when adding the .5 bars to the device, still having some issues. I started with the 1 inch bar and .25 inch bar, then went to the 1 inch and .5 inch bar today.

LennyLong said:

I just got the SG ultimate a few days ago, and set it up as recommended, but I had a few issues. Firstly, having a really hard time keeping the traction at the first top bar (1200g according to the manual), it hovers just above it, and the threads were showing on the adjustment screws on the bottom (didn't unthread fully though). Used 1 and .25 inch bars.

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Not sure where you've search for your info, but we will try to provide you as much relevant info as possible.

At 1200g, with a few more twists beyond that, you already went past the 2.5lbs of optimal growth, and entering into the declination of growth. It's fine on the first hour, but right after that, the growth optimization drops.

At 1.2kg, or around 2.6lbs, that is a lot of pressure to push and grip onto your penis. Imaging you pull and yank on your penis with a rubber band at 1.2kg for hours on end, while tighten your glans like you're hanging it. It gets uncomfortable real fast in 20 minutes. By the way, the tighter you bound the glans full of blood under a constricted state (not allowing blood to flow out of the glans and cycle back in), you are adding the dangers of deep vein thrombosis and blood clot into the mix, potentially killing your penis. This is why SG sells a comfort strap, not noose, as an alternative. The noose is a hangman killing strap around your glans, cutting off the blood flow and pinching your dorsal nerve. Blood must cycles every 10 minutes or less.

LennyLong said:

Secondly, and probably most importantly, the noose is super restrictive to my head. After about an hour, the head is purple, and somewhat hurts to the touch. The obvious answer is loosen the strap, but then I slip out. I am using the little foam pad, just behind my head, and putting the strap on that.

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No, the noose is not restrictive. It's constrive and dangerous. When your glans turned purple, it means the blood got trapped beyond the normal 5 minutes where oxygen is needed to keep blood platelets fresh. 10 minutes, blood platelets may die or damaged.

You can wrap it differently, bases on circumcised or uncircumcised, it will offer better blood flow while preventing the constrictive of blood flow. Foam pad may help a little, but it will fail the moment your glans goes flaccid.

Trick:

• Get the upgrade strap and not the noose.
• If you're buying the upgrade wide strap version, create yourself a DIY strap made of Velcro. I did this for my JES extender.
• Use a strip of TheraBand to wrap right below the glans. BUT! Squeeze as much of the blood out of the glans as you can before you wrap it. How hard you must wrap it, it's based on your observation and comfort level as you pay attention to the blood flowing in and out of the glans.
• Use the foam sleeve to place onto of the TheraBand for comforts. You want, use cotton Ace bandage to add extra comforts. It will cause a bit of bulkiness.

Or..abandon all headaches and get the SiliStretcher - All Day Penis Vacuum Stretcher and Weight Hanger with the SG adapter for usage. Look in the MoS Shop. Having a suction system over the strap system is much more comfortable. If the SiliStretcher with the extender base were around when I needed them, I would have blown all my beer and wine money on them.

LennyLong said:

Any tips for traction not staying at the first notch? Even when adding the .5 bars to the device, still having some issues. I started with the 1 inch bar and .25 inch bar, then went to the 1 inch and .5 inch bar today.

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The higher the traction tension, the better a wrap around the glans you must provide to get an efficient hold. The only method is a wide band. The second to that is a mod to use the noose to hold onto a curving wide base. I also made one of these wide base out of 1/2in PVC half and add foam coating for comforts. Works great, just bulky.

So the instructions told me to go to 1200g for week 1 to ease into it. It said the notches on the hex bars represented 1200g, 2000g and 2800g. Definitely don't want to cause any shrinkage here, what should I start at instead?

I do have the white band strap that I think is the comfort strap. So I should replace the white strap with velcro instead altogether?

I also have a white wrap and a black wrap that came with the kit I haven'topened yet as the instructions had no explanation for them. Can I use the white or black wrap? Not sure what THERABAND is otherwise.


I cannot afford to spend more money right now, I just dropped 300 on the sg. Silistretcher looks neat but costs hundreds.

LennyLong said:

So the instructions told me to go to 1200g for week 1 to ease into it. It said the notches on the hex bars represented 1200g, 2000g and 2800g. Definitely don't want to cause any shrinkage here, what should I start at instead?

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Wow. What has SG been doing by pumping the amount of traction force up? Has the company failed significantly from their products to pump out that much traction beyond clinical results? Crazy company. Commonly, to start out, 800g is more than enough to get used to. 1000g is pushing it. Your growth actually starts at 1000g after 5 hours. The higher traction force at 2800g for the first hour is a great start, and simply reduce to 1100g for the duration of the rest of the hours. Your tissues will actually become more stretchy from 2800g to 1100g within an hours without having to adjust. Never stay at 2800g for more than an hour. That's penile suicide. If you want more details, I can provide a very long and winded explanation.

LennyLong said:

I do have the white band strap that I think is the comfort strap. I also have a white wrap and a black wrap. Can I use the white or black wrap? Not sure what theraband is otherwise.

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Use the white band if you have it. Toss the noose back into the package. Use either white or black wrap based on your comfort needs. Try both out.

LennyLong said:

So I should replace the white strap with velcro instead altogether?

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If you have the wide comfort strap, use that. No need for Velcro mod.

LennyLong said:

I cannot afford to spend more money right now, I just dropped 300 on the sg. Silistretcher looks neat but costs hundreds.

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I feel you. Trust me. PE is an expensive journey over time. Within a years, I already spent around $4,000 on fun tools for PE, including experiments and modding materials. So I do know how expensive it is.

Ok, I will wrap my tool with the black wrap and try the comfort strap. I will try to squeeze the blood out of my glans, never tried that before, then wrap with the black stuff.

The instructions had no guide on how to use the comfort strap, and I found an old forum post here with a video from DLD but the link was dead. I am supposing it too goes just behind the glans. Hopefully no more choking of my chicken head.

4k, dang. I am hoping to get out of this cheap, I am aiming for 8 inches erect, at 6 currently. Maybe later me will want more, dunno, not trying to get too greedy. But bigger stiffies get more ladies.

A long explanation would be nice, I am scientifically minded and love learning about new things. Penile cytokinesis was about the most exciting find I just learned about.


Thanks for the tip(s) :D

LennyLong said:

4k, dang. I am hoping to get out of this cheap, I am aiming for 8 inches erect, at 6 currently. Maybe later me will want more, dunno, not trying to get too greedy. But bigger stiffies get more ladies.

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Be greedier. Be very greedy as you travel on the journey for PE. 8 is a great objective to aim at. I'm aiming for 9in myself from 6in, coming from 5in to start with. I know how it feels to fall behind the needs of the ladies. When you do have $200, drop it on the LengthMaster 3 - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging. Once you have it, you will not regret it. Use it in tandem with the SG and you'll get extra bonus on the growth.

LennyLong said:

A long explanation would be nice, I am scientifically minded and love learning about new things. Penile cytokinesis was about the most exciting find I just learned about.

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Let's start with the basic knowledge. Brother squirt_inducer_man and I started a few scientific data gathering and dropped the articles off a post to start with. Among that, you'll get to read the traction force you're long been wanting to read among the articles:

If you need more, I can drop tons more data on top of what you need. Read through the post, and if you have question, toss it onto that post. I can pull more info from my media server when I go through the rest of the 10,000+ published articles from all symposia. I'll try to find the latest study as well since anything earlier than 2020 may not be as supportive without 2 decades of evidence.

You're a saint, thanks much, I will get to reading, and perhaps maybe even contributing.

You can use velcro tape to strap into sg. This is much more comfortable

Yea I think I need velcro. Cock just slips right out of a fully tightened "comfort strap" black wrap and foam ring on and all

Starting to hate SG design. Extremely difficult to manage a stretched cock with some fingers and keep a device clamped down to your pubic bone with some others.

Why no locks to keep it contracted? Why not a double noose design?

LennyLong said:

Yea I think I need velcro. Cock just slips right out of a fully tightened "comfort strap" black wrap and foam ring on and all

Starting to hate SG design. Extremely difficult to manage a stretched cock with some fingers and keep a device clamped down to your pubic bone with some others.

Why no locks to keep it contracted? Why not a double noose design?

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Good to hear! I have made many requests to sg to change this design with no answer

I used the SG for awhile, the noise is definitely the worst option as it's way to tight and once the silicone gets wet it slips. The strap is the way better option. It's more comfortable and it has a wider pressure point so it's not as constricting. That being said, the more you use it, the longer you'll be able to go without readjusting. I got to the point that I could wear it for hours comfortably.

Seems my head is too small to be contained by the strap even at full tightness, so I think velcro is the way to go

LennyLong said:

Seems my head is too small to be contained by the strap even at full tightness, so I think velcro is the way to go

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That works too. It also helps to keep the tension low when first putting it on, and throughout the day just adjust the rods a bit each time you readjust

LennyLong said:

Yea I think I need velcro. Cock just slips right out of a fully tightened "comfort strap" black wrap and foam ring on and all

Starting to hate SG design. Extremely difficult to manage a stretched cock with some fingers and keep a device clamped down to your pubic bone with some others.

Why no locks to keep it contracted? Why not a double noose design?

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It sounds like your trying to put it on with the noose and the base at the same time. I learned this a while back on this forum, you need to wrap and then put your unit thru the base and then strap your head piece on your wrap and then compress the springs to strap the head piece on your head. I hope that helps.

As far as a better wrap I use somewhat the Stillwantmore guys wrapping video. It’s still in the video section I believe.

LennyLong said:

Why no locks to keep it contracted? Why not a double noose design?

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There are upgrade, emphasized on "upgrade", with double strap designs. The standard unit has both noose and strap to work together. Why don't we use both noose and comfort straps at the same time? The amount of work in strapping them down is too much. Why don't we also use the double comfort strap upgrade? Because it's useless. Slippage is the problem due to the foreskin looseness form penile shrinkage after strapping on.

To have good grips, you must learn how to wrap. Extender companies don't address this issue at all. They just give you a whole bunch of parts to let you play with, forums are not giving clear instruction, but the truth behind it all is the wrapping techniques required to prevent the slippage issues. The wrapping requires to you focus at the corona (the rim of the glans) and 2in below the glans where the skin is the least affected by the slippage. Just sliding on the foam comfort insert and strapping down will not resolve the slippage issue. If you haven't notice, the slippage stops roughly close to the base of the glans, each and every time.

The companies don't tell you the tricks to strap on. You must first prevent the penis from engorgement at all cost. That means utter flaccid state. You cannot have more than 10% of blood volume in the penis from the strapping point to the glans. During wrapping, you must remove all blood out of the penis as best as you can. This is a critical point when you use LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging, the craziest traction device on the market. All your traction support is done by the glans's corona. We have wrapping videos to provide this unique insight to proper wrapping, be for the LengthMaster or the traction type device.

If I would fit in SizeGenetics - Penis Traction Extender I would create video instructions and tying to help, sadly this is not the case.

So I am on Day 9, took days 7 and 8 off, went to 7h40m on day 6

I've taken to using both wraps, the black rubber wrap and the white sticky 3M wrap that came with the SG. Definitely more comofortable, but still slipping issues and tension needs to be adjusted every 10-15 minutes.


Is anyone able to provide pictures of J1L's velcro mod? All the links are dead (as I understand it DLD had a server issue at one point ), and I really want to try that. I feel better traction is needed, I'm unable to use the comfort strap and the noose is a real pain in the....neck.

I have my old extender's head with Velcro mod. Here's and old mod back on 2014 to give you some clues. I can give you a better photo on how to make it when I get home.

Damn dude, you go fishing with that thing?

Looks like the velcro goes around the base then through the strap holes? And looks like it goes at least partially over the glans. I'll work on getting some gauze wrap and try it that way, I've been wrapping behind the glans only thus far. I see it on the plastic bar shrouds as well, not sure how that was done exactly, but I think I can make something work based on that pic, thanks.

As always, appreciated pointers and help.

LennyLong said:

Looks like the velcro goes around the base then through the strap holes?

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Yep. Velcro goes througu the slits for the comfort straps.

LennyLong said:

And looks like it goes at least partially over the glans.

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Yes, and no. Yes, it slipped, because the traction force was around 10lbs. Move too much and it slips a bit.

If you cannot get more than 1in of elongation at 1200g after an hour, something is wrong. Mine was around 6in and it stretched past 7in within an hour.