SB,
No I go right into the SG and after I stretch out I will add more bars or more tension.I am stretching at 8" and my EL is about 7 1/4".
 
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the VLC ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the VLC stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.
 
Tennisguy

Thanks for that!
I started sept 5th with this setup and that is great news that you have gained 1/4" ...it certainly motivates me-its the kind of news I've been looking for so thanks for telling me and congratulations.You must be super inspired to see it working.
I think I will stick with the VLC cause i tried the comfort strap and the velcro mod and it just murdered my dick and I quit.i would rather get slower gains then quit cause then I'll get none ;).I stretch at the highest tension all the time and I do feel it in my ligs and all along my shaft(burn).

Are you house lockdown for a crime doing 6 hours a day?!haha
I get in about 5 hours sometimes 6.

I think you should repost this news about ur awesome gains...its big news for all of us using this setup!
tennisguy;463322 said:
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the VLC ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the VLC stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.
 
tennisguy;463322 said:
I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7.

Congratulations man! Well done - good news for you and all of us. I also agree with everything you wrote about our friend Dickleaker, he has been a great inspiration to me - a real good guy. I have slowly gained, but my real limit is the time I have - the most I have worn it for is 5 hours in one day, but generally average 2 hours. It would be great to have more time, but slowly and surely I will gain, as will you all.
 
Lay'n Pipe;462338 said:
I am cut. I have found that if any of the skin closer to the glans than the cut line is still exposed, I get a pinch. As long as all of that skin is covered and only the skin below the cut line is touching the clear cone, there is no pinch for me. Hope that helps.

exposed meaning visible through the cone after stretching outwards, right? So basically, you're saying we have to roll way higher up?
 
SirKyle;463357 said:
exposed meaning visible through the cone after stretching outwards, right? So basically, you're saying we have to roll way higher up?

Correct.
 
Hydromaxm, I tried this today and got pinching in the frenulum area after 30min or so. I don't always get pinching there though, so I will try again tomorrow.
I feel like I always rolled up quite far, but once I stretch out, the upper 1 or 2 cm of the VLC remain visible. How far does your skin go up the VLC?

I wonder if I the VLC/cone I have is badly sized maybe.
 
SirKyle;463441 said:
Hydromaxm, I tried this today and got pinching in the frenulum area after 30min or so. I don't always get pinching there though, so I will try again tomorrow.
I feel like I always rolled up quite far, but once I stretch out, the upper 1 or 2 cm of the VLC remain visible. How far does your skin go up the VLC?

I wonder if I the VLC/cone I have is badly sized maybe.

I have 1 to 2 CM left at the top. I would email Ron and see if he can help.
 
Lay'n Pipe;463458 said:
I have 1 to 2 CM left at the top. I would email Ron and see if he can help.

He is really good with his email so feel free to contact him.
 
How much shaft burn are you guys getting while stretching? The only burn I really get is the ballsack skin burn :/
 
Put a sock around the base and add more tension or more bars.At higher tension will get shaft burn.
Gravik;463504 said:
How much shaft burn are you guys getting while stretching? The only burn I really get is the ballsack skin burn :/
 
The burn will happen and it will continue to happen when a new gain is happening. It is part of the process but it can be alleviated through various methods like a sock base or the like.
 
doublelongdaddy;463635 said:
The burn will happen and it will continue to happen when a new gain is happening. It is part of the process but it can be alleviated through various methods like a sock base or the like.
Just out of curiosity, did you ever use an extender when you first started out at 6.5" or just manual Penis Enlargement and did your penis shaft burn with just manual Penis Enlargement? Thanks. Oh ya, and what year did you start Penis Enlargement at?

I get the burning too but figure it's just like you say, creating gains.
 
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ADF;463889 said:
Just out of curiosity, did you ever use an extender when you first started out at 6.5" or just manual Penis Enlargement and did your penis shaft burn with just manual Penis Enlargement? Thanks. Oh ya, and what year did you start Penis Enlargement at?

I get the burning too but figure it's just like you say, creating gains.


Oh, how I wish I were not so closed mined then, I was 100% natural and had to work twice as hard to get the gains then if I included the LengthMaster, PowerAssist, SizeGenetics and the Bathmate. I am so happy I have these tool now and they are helping me get to the biggest measuremen yet 11 x 7:)
 
doublelongdaddy;463967 said:
Oh, how I wish I were not so closed mined then, I was 100% natural and had to work twice as hard to get the gains then if I included the LengthMaster, PowerAssist, SizeGenetics and the Bathmate. I am so happy I have these tool now and they are helping me get to the biggest measuremen yet 11 x 7:)
11x7 is SOOOOOOOOOO AWWWWWWWWWSOME !!!!!!!! :)
When it fills with blood do you get light headed? ;)

Have you had time to check out the VLC yet? I am reading that one can get slower gains with it compared to the Velcro strap and other methods. But that may be b/c VLC pulls the whole penis from the glands instead of from the base the way I feel the velcro strap doing. I am using The Velcro 4 hours in the morning and the VLC about 3 hours in the P.M. That way I hope I am getting a better overall stretch
 
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the VLC/SG?!!

The guys using the VLC tugger and extender are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.
ADF;463995 said:
11x7 is SOOOOOOOOOO AWWWWWWWWWSOME !!!!!!!! :)
When it fills with blood do you get light headed? ;)

Have you had time to check out the VLC yet? I am reading that one can get slower gains with it compared to the Velcro strap and other methods. But that may be b/c VLC pulls the whole penis from the glands instead of from the base the way I feel the velcro strap doing. I am using The Velcro 4 hours in the morning and the VLC about 3 hours in the P.M. That way I hope I am getting a better overall stretch
 
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I picked up my vlc somewhere around sept. Averaged about five hours a day wit a three week break at somepoint in there. Went from 7.25" to 7.75" BPFSL. EL sbould bd crieeping with growth here soon.
 
tennisguy;463322 said:
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the VLC ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the VLC stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.

Dickleaker;463336 said:
Tennisguy

Thanks for that!
I started sept 5th with this setup and that is great news that you have gained 1/4" ...it certainly motivates me-its the kind of news I've been looking for so thanks for telling me and congratulations.You must be super inspired to see it working.
I think I will stick with the VLC cause i tried the comfort strap and the velcro mod and it just murdered my dick and I quit.i would rather get slower gains then quit cause then I'll get none ;).I stretch at the highest tension all the time and I do feel it in my ligs and all along my shaft(burn).

Are you house lockdown for a crime doing 6 hours a day?!haha
I get in about 5 hours sometimes 6.

I think you should repost this news about ur awesome gains...its big news for all of us using this setup!

Dickleaker;464042 said:
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the VLC/SG?!!

The guys using the VLC tugger and extender are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :)

I don't think that one should just use the VLC for length gains and nothing else. VLC just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.
 
Dickleaker;464042 said:
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the VLC/SG?!!

The guys using the VLC tugger and extender are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.

Also Ron himself says that VLC will bring .25 in length in one year. So if you want faster length gains then don't just use the VLC by itself. If You trade comfort for faster gains then don't complain about it or try to make people like me feel that they are spreading false info around MoS site.
 
ADF,
Sorry for my overly strong response...have been down with stomach flu past few days and felt a bit knarly .
You should be commended for thinking outside the box and stretching both ways!

What are you using as wrap with the velcro strap?I could never get any level of comfort with that setup,so if there are going to be slower gains in exchange for comfort then its one that I am willing to pay.

Good luck with your routine and wish you good gains!!!
ADF;464074 said:
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :)

I don't think that one should just use the VLC for length gains and nothing else. VLC just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.
 
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