KING! Can't wait to see you!
 
Hey fellas. Sorry for the delay. I’ve been really busy and my internet service at home isn't working right now. Until I get my internet fixed I won’t be posting as much.

My last pge1 session was Sunday that past. Been to busy with work for injection but I’ve been doing my dmso/paba treatments and hanging consistantley. Today will be my first day of pge1 erection workout since Sunday. Here’s last Sunday’s workout.

October 28, 2012 (Sunday)

8:30am - 8:50am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

3:00pm – 4:00pm 2 twenty minute sets of lig hanging with 5LBs

4:50pm injected 12 mcgs of pge1 into left chamber Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems into CCs until erection started to generate. Took off cockring at 5:00pm

5:00pm - 6:30pm 90% to 100% erection while painfully edging to flood penis with bio chemicals from supplements I take.

6:30pm – 7:20pm 100% painful erection while painfully fucking Eva. Wasn’t pleasant for me do to the pge1 pain.

7:20pm - 8:00pm 75% to 60% erection

8:00pm – 8:20pm 50% erection (performed DMSO/PABA treatment during this time)

Total PGE1 erection time: 3 hours

8:40pm – 9:00pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 pounds post PGE1 erection workout and DMSO/PABA treatment

Ok fellas on Sunday during my pge1 workout, Eva kept calling me telling me that’s she’s horny and wants to get snaked down by yours truly. So I invited her over for a snake session. Fucking her was pretty painful for me with the pge1 erection but I sucked it up and gave her what she wanted which was a cervix smashing snake session. Expansion was insane as she sucked my dick but the pain was very present. Eva has also commented on how my dick is bigger then ever before then accused me of taking viagra since my dick wasn’t going soft from the pge1 in my CCs.
 
Monday (October 29, 2012)

5:00am to 5:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

5:40am to 6:00am 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

12:00pm to 12:20pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs in the bathroom stall at my job

3:30pm to 4:00pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

4:10pm to 4:30pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

4:30pm to 4:45pm 15 minutes of edging to reestablish good blood flow and erection health
 
Tuesday (October 30, 2012)

5:00am to 5:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

5:40am to 6:00am 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

12:00pm to 12:20pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs in the bathroom stall at my job

3:30pm to 4:00pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

4:10pm to 4:30pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

4:30pm to 4:45pm 15 minutes of edging to reestablish good blood flow and erection health
 
Wednesday (October 31, 2012)

5:00am to 5:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

5:40am to 6:00am 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

12:00pm to 12:20pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs in the bathroom stall at my job

3:30pm to 4:00pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

4:10pm to 4:30pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

4:30pm to 4:45pm 15 minutes of edging to reestablish good blood flow and erection health
 
Thursday (November 1, 2012)

5:00am to 5:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

5:40am to 6:00am 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

12:00pm to 12:20pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs in the bathroom stall at my job

3:30pm to 4:00pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

4:10pm to 4:30pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

4:30pm to 4:45pm 15 minutes of edging to reestablish good blood flow and erection health
 
Friday (November 2, 2012)

8:00am to 8:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

9:00am to 9:20am 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs

11:40pm to 12:00pm 1 twenty minute pumping set up to 7gs to fatigue tissues before PGE1 workout

12:05pm injected 12 mcgs of pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into the left chamber. But cockring on to trap chems in the penis.

12:30pm Took cockring off to open up flood gates and bring on the pain
12:30pm to 1:30pm 85 to 93% erection while painfully edging

1:30pm to 3:30pm 75 % erection but edged through out bringing me back up 90 % erection

Total PGE1 erection time 3 hours

4:00pm to 4:30pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

4:40pm to 5:10pm 30 minutes of jelqing with ULIES thrown in every now and then through out

8:00pm to 8:20pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 lbs to finish tissues off for the day


Ok Fellas. It's been 4 days since I last injected. Todays PGE1 workout was painful as usual. This time I did a 20 minute pumping set to pre fatigue the tunica before I did my PGE1 workout. I got crazy expansion while pumping and was able to pump to 7 gs without any pain since there wasn't any PGE1 present yet. I figured if I cause microscopic tears from the pumping workou, the pge1 erection would keep the tears open for 3 to 4 hours while healing and new tissue fills in the gaps. My dick was pretty worn out today do to the workout. Those jelqs sure fatigue my penis. EQ was low tonight while I was fucking Sienna. Not worried though. Im sure in the morning I'll wake up with some super hard morning wood like I normally do. Popped a goldreallas pill 4 hours ago as well to make sure my dick performs at peak levels.
 
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kingsnake;515934 said:
This time I did a 20 minute pumping set to pre fatigue the tunica before I did my PGE1 workout. I got crazy expansion while pumping and was able to pump to 7 gs without any pain since there wasn't any PGE1 present yet. I figured if I cause microscopic tears from the pumping workou, the pge1 erection would keep the tears open for 3 to 4 hours while healing and new tissue fills in the gaps.

I think this could be way to use PGE1 for pe. It follows DLDs SRT theory. For hanging or manual stretches we can use an uncle Jim's wrap or an extender like the size genetics to keep the penis in an extended state while it heals. However, for girth all we can really use is a cock ring which only keeps the penis plumped at best. With the PGE1 we can keep the penis at it's newly expanded size while it heals. The added blood flow after an intense girth workout could also serve to benefit healing by maybe reducing the build up of scar tissue due to exercises.

I've been mainly following dashdemings hardcore hanging routine ( I'm at 21.5 lbs for one set) focusing on the ligs with BTC hanging. I was going to leave the PGE1 for a while but I think I might go ahead and get some. I was worried that it would interfere with length gains.
 
MikeShlort;515099 said:
In answer to your question about working girth first: http://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/16295-length-first-girth-second.html

My humble opinion is this:

1. Manual stretches until plateau
2. Hanging for Lig Stretch until plateau
3. Hanging for tunica stretch until plateau
4. Going back to hanging for lig stretch, if no gains in 2 months discontinue and start girth work
5. Girth work - manual girth exercises, pumping, and PGE1 injections (at your own discretion)

The whole time doing Penis Enlargement you should always be kegeling and light jelqing, regardless of the routine. This will help premature ejaculation. Learn how to jerk off/fuck without doing a kegel. Kegeling during sex is what makes you ejaculate.

Take it slow and very gradually build up intensity - whether it be reps, time, or force, just like at the gym.

You're going to have to do your manual length exercises out of the shower - using baby powder for grip. Warm up first always.

Hanging for Lig stretches, does MikeShlort mean BTC or just straight down?

Another newbie question from me, what does Hanging over the sholders mean? What position is that?
 
MartinGlad;515946 said:
Hanging for Lig stretches, does MikeShlort mean BTC or just straight down?

Another newbie question from me, what does Hanging over the sholders mean? What position is that?

Yeah hanging for lig stretch would be BTC and Straight Down - BTC being the most effective of the two angles.

Hanging over the shoulders is literally putting the rope over your shoulder with the weight on it so it pulls your penis upwards, towards the sky. This angle targets the tunica.
 
It's best to use a pulley system then literally hanging the weight over your shoulders. In my experiance that methods puts most of the load on your shoulders which is the reason why I use my garment Rack with a pulley attached at the top so all of the load goes to the penis.

November 3, 2012 (Saturday)

2:00pm to 2:30pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

2:40pm to 3:00pm 20 minutes of wet jelqing with a few ULIES thrown in

3:05pm to 3:25pm 1 twenty minute pumping set up to 7 gs

3:40pm Injected 15 mcgs of PGE1 and 100mcgs of TB4 into right chamber. Put cockring on to keep chems in shaft.

3:40pm to 4:40pm keep cockring this time as a clamping method, producing intense engorgement and expansion with PGE1 and TB4 inside the CCs.

4:40pm Took off cockring. Dick deflated down to 60% erection

4:40pm to 5:40pm 60% to 50% erection

Total PGE1 erection time 2 hours

7:30pm to 8:00pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

8:10pm to 8:30pm 1 twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 LBS

Ok fellas. This time around I tried something different. I did 20 minutes of jelqing before hand and a 20 minute pumping set up to 7 gs before doing my PGE1 workout. My plan of attack was to stress the tissue before hand and create micro tears. The PGE1 erection would then be use as a tissue delinker and a form of ADS as my dick stays erect for hours.

Another thing I did different was, afer putting the cockring on after injecting, I kept it on for 1 hour during my PGE1 erection. What I noticed is the pain of pge1 is not that bad with a cockring on. It’s like the ring numbs out the pain receptors in the penis since blood is being trapped more so then an unclamp erection. After an hour went by my glans became cold and numb so I took the ring off, opening up the flood gates. That good ol PGE1 pain came back as fresh blood circulated through my erection. Erection response was kinda weak and only lasted for 2 hours. Im hoping my body isn't becoming use to 15 mcgs of PGE1 because it’s gonna suck to use more. This shit hurts fellas. I know they say that PGE1 unlinks the tunica for growth but why does this shit have to be so painful. The erection hurts more then the actual injection. LOL.

Tomorrow Im gonna try 15mcgs of PGE1 into the left chamber. Hopefully I get a good 3 to 4 hour response because 15 mcgs is already painful enough.
 
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Hi KS!

Do you change your chamber injection side at every sessions? Thanks.
 
Hey Kingsnake, I was thinking today about the original ChemPenis Enlargement patent by Dr Adams. In it he said he used a potentiator - either relaxin or potaba. The role of these was to weaken the collagen. I was thinking what would happen if heat was applied during the erection. I was thinking a warm wash cloth, the Bathmate or some sort of insulator the most basic being a sock. The Bathmate would provide heat and expansion. I'm thinking that a simple routine could be - warm up with a damp warm wash cloth or rice sock. Manual or mechanical Penis Enlargement - hanging, jelqing, uli's etc then inject PGE1 once maximum erection is reached hop in the shower (or bath) run hot water (as hot as you can take it without burning) over penis then Bathmate.

My PGE1, slin pins and wipes are in the mail, hopefully I'll have them before the weekend. When I get them I'll be trying this exact routine.
 
King, can't wait to meet up...you going to be here by Wednesday?
 
Hey King,
Did you get any skin irritation when you started using DMSO/PABA? I've done three applications on consecutive days so far and the skins dry and flaky. Im using aloe to hydrate the skin. Just wondering if it takes a bit for the skin to get used to it. I'll take a break till the skin looks better and maybe do shorter applications. I was doing 30 to 40 mins.
 
Hey Starks. Yeah I switch my injection sites up every session.

Hey bigdex28. Good luck bro when you get started with your protocol. I remember relaxin being one of Dr Adam’s potentiators. Unfortunentley they no longer make human relaxin anymore.

Hey EXXX6. I get my pge1 and tb4 from ergopep.com. I get dmso from supplement warehouse.com Make sure to get 70% dmso. I get powdered paba from purebulk.com.

Hey Ramrod360. Yes I did get skin irritation but over time my skin adapted. Make sure you using 70% concentration DMSO and nothing higher. Also don’t put any on your glans because the skin on the glans is delicate and will dry out in a hurry.


November 4 2012 Sunday

9:00PM TO 9:30PM DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

9:40pm to 11:00pm two 20 minute lig hanging sets with 5 pounds

11:20 pm to 12:00pm 2 ten minute clamping sets

12:15pm injected 15 mcgs of pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left CC. Put cockring on to keep chems in shaft until erectial response took place

12:25pm took off cockring opening up flood gates

12:25pm to 1:25pm 60% erection put manually stimulated myself to 85 to 90% erection. Lots of fluid build up from the clamping

1:25pm to 2:00pm 60% erection. Unsatisfactory PGE1 session

Total PGE1 erection time a little less then 2 hours. Extremely pissed.

2:00pm to 2:30pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

2:40pm to 3:00pm 20 minutes of wet jelqs

Put on divosuit and left it on for the rest of the day.

Ok fellas. This is last Sundays session. I haven’t done an injection session since. This session was horrible. I got curious to see what my clamped girth was since I had made new gains. So I did 2 hardcore 10 minute clamping sets. Midgirth was a whooping 6.7 inches in circumference. I got excited and thought it would be a good idea to reintroduce clamping back into my protocol.

After the clamp sets, I had massive fluid build up which made my dick very spongy and erection quality suffered. I figured the pge1 injection would fix my EQ for full erection right after the clamping sets but even the pge1 couldn’t do much for my tired penis, thanks to clamping. I had to manually stimulate myself to stay above 60% erection, even with 15 mcgs of PGE1. This experience has further reminded me to leave hardcore clamping the HELL alone during this chemical protocol and just stick with pumping when the PGE1 soreness isn’t so bad.

On top of this I’ve been wearing the divosuit that I got from Ronielle’s website. Overall I think it’s ok for keeping your dick elongated while healing takes places but I don’t like how the divo cup makes my glans kind of numb after 8 hours of use. The part of my dick that’s in the cup for hours ends up all spongy and with less sensation from being in a vaccum all day. I’ve noticed that during sex my glans aren’t as sensitive like they use to be before using the divosuit.

One more negative thing going on with me is now Im experiencing some pain with lig hanging, using my python hanger. Im experiencing pain 1 to 2 inhes under the glans where I attach the hanger. I come to the conclusion that constantly squashing and compressing my penis sandwich style with a hanger isn’t good for it in the long run. I went to see my urologist yesterday and told him about what Im doing and a little about Penis Enlargement. Hey told me that he is fully aware of Penis Enlargement and believes that the best way to enlarge the penis is through traction force.

He then tells me that the best way to hang is without a doubt using a vacuum hanger which is what they prescribe guys to use after penile surgery. My urologist stated that compression style hangers are dangerous because they add uneven tension to the tunica and connective tissues of the penis which can leed to harmful scar producing tears in the areas of the tunica that are receiving more tenson then other areas do to the uneven distribution of tenson.

After hearing this information Im all aboard with vaccum hanging but my only problem is Im scared of getting blisters since I hear all the time about the blister problem being the main thing that draws guys away from vacuum hanging. I hear that most guys can’t hang anything over 5 or 10 pounds or else there glans get beat up with blisters.

I was thinking about ordering a vacuum hanger but before I do I need some help from my fello members that have experience with vaccum hanging. At what poundage does the danger of blisters happen and what can be done to prevent them? Because the last thing I need is some damn blisters.
 
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November 9, 2012 Friday

10:00am to 10:30am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

10:40am to 11:20am 40 minutes of manual bundled stretches

1:32pm injected 18 mcgs of PGE1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left chamber then put cockring on to keep chems localized until erectile response took place

1:40pm Took off cockring opening up the flood gates

1:40pm to 4:00pm 90 to 100% erect while edging

4:00pm to 4:40pm 75% back up to 90% erection. Did another DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes during this time.

4:40pm to 4:55pm 1 fifteen minute pumping set up to 4 to 5 gs

Total PGE1 erection time: 3 hours and 15 minutes

7:00pm to 7:20pm Did a 3rd DMSO/PABA treatment to prepare tunica for 40 minutes of bundle stretching

7:30pm to 8:10pm Bundled stretches for 40 minutes

Ok fellas. This time around I did 3 DMSO/PABA treatments. Really trying to soften the tunica up as much as possible. Now toward the end of my PGE1 erection, I make sure to do a DMSO/PABA session to soften my tunica as much as possible while my tunica becomes fatigued under the pressure of my erection and the pge1 unraveling. The DMSO/PABA treatment is also to prepare my tunica for my pumping sets and exercises while still chemically erect under the influence of PGE1.

Right now I’m not hanging any more until I get a vacuum hanger. Since my upper shaft area is sore from using hangers that grip by compression forces, I’m now doing a 40 minute manual bundled stretch session in the morning after my 1st DMSO/PABA treatment and another 40 minute bundled stretch session before bed. Bundled stretches are great exercises that stretch the tunica laterally and diagonally to help increases elastic tolerance and tissue mass increase. Back in the day I use to do bundled hanging which helped with making girth gains as well as length gains in the past.
 
Kingsnake, while you are doing your Pg1 workouts what kind of pump are you using? I quess you are an Vacutech user right?
 
Hey MartinGlad. Actually Im using a Dr Kaplan penis pump. I've out grown it and need to get a 12 inch tube. My plan is to get a Vacutech brand pump.
 
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