The snake man's chemical PE log

Seun;512445 said:

i only pump on monday wednesday, friday,but i hang everyday.

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You shouldn't be pumping at all. From what I read from hangers and otherwise, doing any girth work toughens your tunica. Therefore, by the time you stop doing lig hanging and want to start gaining from tunica hanging, your tunica is going to be so tough that it will be impossible to gain length from tunica hanging.

I suggest you stop pumping until you are desired length. Are you not a member of Bib's forum? You should check it out and read up on hanging. Ask him questions. He seems to know what he is talking about - he invented a device that has cause many men to gain multiple inches and he himself has claimed he has gained 4.5 inches in length from hanging. This is the kind of person you want to listen to.

saiyan was pumping and hanging and saw some great gain.

Seun;512592 said:

saiyan was pumping and hanging and saw some great gain.

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You realize he started at 8 inches, right? Ya you can still gain lig stretch, just will be tougher for tunica gains. You do your thing.

Seun;512592 said:

saiyan was pumping and hanging and saw some great gain.

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Not only will it be harder to deform the tunica if you gain more girth, but if you significantly deform both the lateral and longitudinal layers of tunica by doing length and girth work at the same time, you can develop scar tissue, which will cause a bend in your erect penis. Hanging is very intense, many times more intense than manual stretching, so you need to be aware of these things before you get into it, and go about doing it correctly. Scar tissue may not form right away, but if you are hanging a lot of weight, and doing extremely heavy girth work, it becomes much more probable that this will occur. You need to be smart about this, and follow what Bib teaches. Nobody has more hanging hours under his belt than Bib does, or more knowledge about Penis Enlargement via hanging, or penile anatomy, so need to listen to what this man says. There is no point in getting a bigger penis if there is a bend in it. It is not smart. Manuals and girth work is probably fine, as you cannot deform the tunica as effectively as you will hanging ... but if you're hanging HEAVY, don't be stupid. You will regret it when you get a bend.

Thanks alot guys. I only pump for 10minutes for blood flow thats it. Two days a week.

Hey SugarSoSweet. The chems aren’t really that expensive. To get affordable pge1 and peptide compounds just go to ergopep.com. Dmso is cheap. I bought 4 eight ounce bottles for 40 to 50 bucks. Got a huge bag of powdered paba for almost 50 bucks.

For the question on hanging and pumping, I don't think you need to worry about pumping getting in the way of your hanging. Just do all of your hanging in the first half of the day then in the evenings do your pumping workout afterwards. A lot of people say doing length work first is the way to go then girth work. I don't see it that way. We are working on increasing raw tissue mass in the CCS and in the tunica. An increase in mass is going to result in a length gain and a girth gain anyway. I've always done Penis Enlargement with the focus to increase tissue mass and not so much length first or girth later and the result has been me making great gains in both measurements because I increased mass through out as well as tuncia elasticity.

With girth work making the tunica tougher this is true but I don’t have those problems personally with pumping. For me it’s clamping that toughens my tunica which Im not doing with this protocal. DMSO and PABA should help combat these problems any way Seun.

October 17, 2012 (Wednesday) Off work today

5:30am - DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

8:00am - 1 twenty minute tunica fulcrum hanging set with 7.5 pounds

4:35pm - injected 10 mcgs of pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left chamber. Put silicone jelly cockring on for 20 mins to keep in chems in the CC, creating clamped like engorgement.

4:40pm – 5:00pm 90 to 100% erection with jelly cockring on creating clamped like pain and expansion.

5:00pm – 7:00pm 90 – 98% while edging to flood penis with bio chemically enriched blood from supplements I take.

7:00pm – 8:00pm 90 to 100% erection while doing 2 fifteen minute pumping sets

8:00pm to 9:30pm 75% erection down to 50% erection

Total PGE1 erection time: 4 hours and 30 minutes

During this session pain was moderate but the pumping sets were painful. Only pumped to 4 gs during my sets with the pge1 erection.

October 19, 2012 (Friday)

8:30am - DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

8:50am – 9:10am 1 twenty minute tunica fulcrum hanging set with 10 pounds

12:53pm - injected 15 mcgs of pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into right chamber. Put silicone jelly cockring on for 20 mins to keep in chems in the CC, creating clamped like engorgement.

12:53pm – 1:13pm 90 to 100% erection with jelly cock ring on creating clamped like pain and expansion.

1:13pm – 3:15pm 85 – 100% while edging to flood penis with bio chemically enriched blood from supplements I take.

3:15pm – 3:50pm 80% erection

3:50pm to 4:05pm 90 to 95% erection while doing 1 fifteen pumping set during pge1 erection. Pretty painful.

4:05pm to 4:40pm 80% to 90% erection while edging

4:40pm to 5:30pm 70% erection down to 50% erection

Total PGE1 erection time: 4 hours and 30 minutes

This session pain was moderate with 15 mcgs of PGE1 but I only did 1 fifteen minute pumping set during the erection because the shit was painful even at 3 to 4 gs.

Thanks saiyan you are like the einstein of P.E no offense to dld of course.

Hey seun. Happy to give my opinion. Keep in mind that it's just my opinion. I've always believed that an increase in tissue mass will result in length and girth gains at the same time if the tissue mass increase is coming from the three chambers and the tunica.

October 20, 2012 (Saturday)

9:30am - DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

10:00am – 10:20am 1 twenty minute tunica hanging set with 10 pounds

6:10pm - injected 15 mcgs of pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left chamber. Put silicone jelly cockring on for 20 mins to keep in chems in the CC, creating clamped like engorgement.

6:30pm - 10:00pm Took off cockring 95% to 100% extremely painful agonizing erection.

10:00pm - 10:20pm 70% erection performed extremely painful ULIES for 2 minute sets a piece while painfully kegelling for max trapped expansion

10:20pm to 10:50pm 60% down to 50% erection. Did 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment during this time.

Total PGE1 erection time: 4 hours and 30 minutes of pain

11:00pm - 11:15pm 15 minutes of manual stretches

Ok fellas. This time 15mcgs of pge1 was fucking painful again. So painful that I said to hell with pumping. It seems that when I injected anything over 10 mcgs of pge1 into the left chamber in particular, the pain becomes extreme. I was literally walking around back in forth in circles in my apartment, grinting my teeth in pain while holding my painfully throbbing dick in my hands for the first 2 hours of my erection. I don't see how it's possible to have sex with the kind of pain that 15mcgs of PGE1 brings. At least for me anyway. On a positive note, I got excellent clamped expansion with my hands while doing very tight ULIES during the end of my erection, once all the tunica unraviling was done from the PGE1.

My dick is looking thick as hell. Flaccid girth and erect girth look bigger. Im giving myself until next week to measure but righ now my erection is much thicker in my hands then before. Flaccid stretch looks scary long as well.

Seun do remember with hanging that you are producing microtramatic tears in your unit.

Your working with tissue that is highly adaptive and responds to small amounts of stress.

Increasing sets by one each week causes an extra gain and if you increase too much too fast your gains have potential to slow down
because of the tissues can begin to toughen up due to too much stress being applied.

If your going to do both length and girth I would suggest going at 80% on each, moving up each week with weights or pressure, and maintaining your current size,
therefore your tissues are being given time to adapt without toughening due to too much force too soon.

I have been in the Penis Enlargement game over 10 years and have done jelqing, pumping, hanging, extender, clamping, and stretching.

Goodluck bro

thanks alot ironwill. Can you suggest a good routine that target both lenght and girth. I use different weights ranging from 25,27.5and 30 pounds. Pumping 2 days a week.

Hey kingsnake have you thought of using a topical anaesthetic like this:

http://www.amazon.com/TOPICAINE-Topical-Anesthetic-Gel-Lidocaine/dp/B001CY9XW4

Or using a delay lube like

http://www.mycondom.co.uk/pasante-magic-delay-lube-75ml-bottle-3-pack

I'm thinking the delay lube would be better as it would allow you to fuck while you have a PGE erection making the erection harder but less painful. The only downside is that the lube would also numb the pussy of whoever you're fucking.

Snake have you noticed any increase in your length or just girth?

Hey bigdex28. Thanks for the tips bro. I’ll look into these because the pain asscociated with anything over 10 mcgs of pge1 into the left chamber in particular produces a brutally painful erection for me.

Hey SugarSoSweet. So far I’ve noticed my flaccid girth and erect girth are definitely thicker then ever before. I’m going to measure tomorrow before I do my PGE1 session for an official progress report.

October 21, 2012 (Sunday)

9:30am – 10:00am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

10:15am – 10:35am 1 lig hanging set with 5 pounds

5:35pm Injected 15 mcgs of PGE1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left chamber. Put silicone jelly cockring on for 10 minutes to keep chems local in the CC for full effect to take place

5:45pm – 6:00pm Took off cockring. 80 to 90% extremely painful erection

6:00pm – 8:00pm 90 to 95% extremely painful and excruciating erection

8:00pm to 10:00pm 75% to 60% erection but edged for a while bring me back up to 90% to 100% erection. Peformed 10 two minute sets of painful ULIES during this time.

10:00pm – 10:10pm PGE1 erection died down but jerked back to 100% erection and did 1 ten minute pumping set up to 5 gs

Total PGE1 erection time: 4 extremely painful grueling hours of agony and expansion

10:10pm - 10:30pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

11:00pm – 11:20pm 1 painful twenty minute lig hanging set with 5 pounds to take advantage of fatigued and unraveled tunica and tissues from PGE1 workout.

Ok fellas. This time the pain from 15 mcgs of PGE1 was the most brutal I’ve experienced. I was once again walking back and forth around my apartment holding a painful erection in my hands again for the first 2 hours. I was cursing up a storm as the pain pulsated through out my entire shaft for 2 grueling hours. I know that PGE1 is unraveling the tissues but it doesn’t make any damn sense to be this damn painful.

I definitely can not have sex with the pulsating pain that Im experiencing with anything over 10 mcgs of pge1. My entire penis from base to glans was in throbbing pain for the first two hours of erection. Now I understand what coughroniellecough was talking about with the pain of PGE1.

After 2 hours went by, the pain went down and I was able to edge and perform ulies as well as pump to work the unraveled cologen of the tunica and CCs. During my ULIES which Im doing 2 minute sets a piece, my girth is insane looking with ridiculous veins everywhere.

After the erection was done, I did another DMSO/PABA treatment then I did a 20 min lig hanging set to further deform the already post PGE1 fatigued tissues. The first 10 minutes of the hanging set was painful as hell after the PGE1 erection but afterwards the last ten minutes wasn’t to bad as the tissues adjusted to the tension of 5 pounds.


My dick was extremely fatigued the next day with lowered EQ but the day afterwards EQ was up 100% plus some. My girth has definitely increased in flaccid and erect girth. While Seanna was blowing me today she commented on my dick feeling and looking thicker then ever before. She commented on the gap she has between her fingers while jerking my dick. She suspects that Im doing something but I ain’t telling. LOL.

A week and counting

hey snake it looks like you are still taking goldreallas while on this protocol. do you think that helps with the chem induced EQ? im only getting up to 70% with 7mcg pge1 so wondering if i should supplement with a low regular dose of cialis on the side ...

^ I would just increase the PGE1 dose before you start fucking around with adding potentiators.

man I feel like doing this i'm just scared tho.... can't wait for Snakes results!!

i would rather hang 60pounds than inject chemical into my peewee. Lets me see kingsnake results first, then i might reconsider.

Seun;514449 said:

i would rather hang 60pounds than inject chemical into my peewee. Lets me see kingsnake results first, then i might reconsider.

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I wouldn't.