Maybe even go one month on, 1.5-2 months off.
The snake man's chemical PE log
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bigdex28;523249 said:
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Kingsnake ... what is that link to the [words=http://buymos.pebible.hop.clickbank.net]Penis Enlargement bible[/words] again? Thanks man.
Hey Mikeshlort. Here’s the link to the [words=http://buymos.pebible.hop.clickbank.net]Penis Enlargement bible[/words] bro. http://www.scribd.com/doc/55203951/How-to-Make-Your-Penis-Bigger-z
Hey 8incyclops. I got the 1 pound weight sleeve from the gripsystem company. The same company where I got my vacuum hanger from. I’ve been hanging now with it since last Friday in conjunction with my chemical Penis Enlargement protocol.
Tommorow or Saturday I’ll be posting detailed pics of me using the vac hanger, weight sleeve, and some chemical erection pics.
Ok so I haven’t started my daily progress log yet for my second chem cycle but my routine has been as follows so far.
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday
Morning time: 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment session/ 2 twenty minute hanging sets with 5 pounds/ Put 1 pound weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Late morning to early noon time: chemical erection workout. Inject pge1,igf-des, and tb-500 all in one syringe for a 2 to 4 hour painful boner. During the last 30 minutes to a hour of my erection do a 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment session on the days Im off from work.
Evening time: 2 twenty minute hanging sets with 5 pounds to take advantage of fatigued tissues after pge1 erection workout. Afterwards put my 1 pound weight sleeve on for the rest of the day and only take it off if Im fucking, using the bathroom, or going to bed.
Wednesday and Thursday
Morning time: 20 minute dmso/paba treatment session/ 2 twenty minute hanging sets/ put 1 pound weight sleeve on and go to work.
Noon or lunch time: Take off weight sleeve [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and do 1 twenty minute hanging set. If have enough time, go fuck Janiss in her office before lunch break is over. Afterwards put my 1 pound weight sleeve back on and go back to work.
Evening time: 20 min DMSO/PABA treatment session/ 1 or 2 twenty minute hanging sets
Hey 8incyclops. I got the 1 pound weight sleeve from the gripsystem company. The same company where I got my vacuum hanger from. I’ve been hanging now with it since last Friday in conjunction with my chemical Penis Enlargement protocol.
Tommorow or Saturday I’ll be posting detailed pics of me using the vac hanger, weight sleeve, and some chemical erection pics.
Ok so I haven’t started my daily progress log yet for my second chem cycle but my routine has been as follows so far.
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday
Morning time: 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment session/ 2 twenty minute hanging sets with 5 pounds/ Put 1 pound weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Late morning to early noon time: chemical erection workout. Inject pge1,igf-des, and tb-500 all in one syringe for a 2 to 4 hour painful boner. During the last 30 minutes to a hour of my erection do a 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment session on the days Im off from work.
Evening time: 2 twenty minute hanging sets with 5 pounds to take advantage of fatigued tissues after pge1 erection workout. Afterwards put my 1 pound weight sleeve on for the rest of the day and only take it off if Im fucking, using the bathroom, or going to bed.
Wednesday and Thursday
Morning time: 20 minute dmso/paba treatment session/ 2 twenty minute hanging sets/ put 1 pound weight sleeve on and go to work.
Noon or lunch time: Take off weight sleeve [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and do 1 twenty minute hanging set. If have enough time, go fuck Janiss in her office before lunch break is over. Afterwards put my 1 pound weight sleeve back on and go back to work.
Evening time: 20 min DMSO/PABA treatment session/ 1 or 2 twenty minute hanging sets
THanks again man. Good stuff
I dont really understand this about DHT Gel from Allsaints...
If it would improve some gains in Penis Enlargement, (Combinated with good routines of course), would it improve lenght or girth? Or even both? And what would it mostly be helpful for?
If it would improve some gains in Penis Enlargement, (Combinated with good routines of course), would it improve lenght or girth? Or even both? And what would it mostly be helpful for?
I'd like to start by giving props to the main man kingsnake
I was wondering why your using so many different combinations to induce the errections, when pge1 seemed to be working fine? Are you trying to find a combination that would be the least painful?
I was wondering why your using so many different combinations to induce the errections, when pge1 seemed to be working fine? Are you trying to find a combination that would be the least painful?
No problem MikeShlort.
Hey MartinGlad. With DHT it will improve both length and girth. As far as your question on what it would be helpful for, first you have to understand that DHT is the primary MALE hormone that’s responsible for a number of male traits like deepness of one’s voice, body hair, bone structure, libido and of course Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE.
When a boy hit’s puberty it’s the upregulation in DHT, GROWTH HORMONE, IGF, MGF, VEGF, PGE1 that are responsible for the growth of his penis in both length and girth up until he reaches adult hood then all of these hormones down regulate to low levels.
DHT cream will encourage cell proliferation inside the tissues of the penis which means concentrated cell growth to the entire organ.
DHT is so powerful that even transgender women use it to turn there clits into penises. If that doesn’t convince you how powerful topical dht cream is to the penis when combined with other forms of Penis Enlargement, then I don’t know what will?
Here’s the link with the transgender women who are using 10% concentration DHT cream on there clits in combination with pumping and are reporting good results.
http://genderoutlaw.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/dht-cream-pumping/
Here’s another link talking about it more in depth. Definitely read this second link below. Very good info here.
http://transguys.com/features/dht-transgender-men
When I spoke to chemical Penis Enlargement pioneer, Ronielle on the phone, he told me he actually had to stop using DHT cream with his chemical protocol because his girth was becoming too big and his clients were starting to have problems taking him.
Hey thebigindian. Im only using one chemical to induce a chemical erection and that’s PGE1. The other chemicals which are IGF-DES and TB-500 are for other purposes bro. The igf-des is for enhanced cell proliferation and cell hyperplasia. The TB-500 is for the same thing as well with added antiflamatory benefits to it and increased tissue elasticity.
Hey MartinGlad. With DHT it will improve both length and girth. As far as your question on what it would be helpful for, first you have to understand that DHT is the primary MALE hormone that’s responsible for a number of male traits like deepness of one’s voice, body hair, bone structure, libido and of course Penis EnlargementNIS SIZE.
When a boy hit’s puberty it’s the upregulation in DHT, GROWTH HORMONE, IGF, MGF, VEGF, PGE1 that are responsible for the growth of his penis in both length and girth up until he reaches adult hood then all of these hormones down regulate to low levels.
DHT cream will encourage cell proliferation inside the tissues of the penis which means concentrated cell growth to the entire organ.
DHT is so powerful that even transgender women use it to turn there clits into penises. If that doesn’t convince you how powerful topical dht cream is to the penis when combined with other forms of Penis Enlargement, then I don’t know what will?
Here’s the link with the transgender women who are using 10% concentration DHT cream on there clits in combination with pumping and are reporting good results.
http://genderoutlaw.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/dht-cream-pumping/
Here’s another link talking about it more in depth. Definitely read this second link below. Very good info here.
http://transguys.com/features/dht-transgender-men
When I spoke to chemical Penis Enlargement pioneer, Ronielle on the phone, he told me he actually had to stop using DHT cream with his chemical protocol because his girth was becoming too big and his clients were starting to have problems taking him.
Hey thebigindian. Im only using one chemical to induce a chemical erection and that’s PGE1. The other chemicals which are IGF-DES and TB-500 are for other purposes bro. The igf-des is for enhanced cell proliferation and cell hyperplasia. The TB-500 is for the same thing as well with added antiflamatory benefits to it and increased tissue elasticity.
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Have you tried adding papaverine and eucommia to your DMSO/PABA treatment?
Appreciate the advice kingsnake
Appreciate the advice kingsnake
KS, so taking clomid after a dht cycle will get my system back to normal? Or will my On my way! Dht production be for ever scarred?
Hey Starks. I’ll post some hanger pics and chemical erection pics tonight bro.
Hey sportsfan4236. I haven’t tried adding papaverine and eucommia to my DMSO/PABA treatments. I know papaverine is a vasodilator but I thought you have to inject that. Can papaverine be carried through the skin into the CCs with DMSO?
Hey houseofr00bees. Im not an expert on DHT cream since I haven’t used it yet but if you stay on DHT for short bouts then you should be fine. I plan on doing it in a 1 month on 1 month off cycle.
Well fellas. Been kinda lazy with posting my daily workouts but all is well. The day before yesterday I upped my pge1 dosage to 20 mcgs for the first time. The intensity and throbbing pain of my erection was rediculous. Got a 3 hour erection out of it.
Been doing 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging in the morning before my chemical erection workouts and 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging after my chemical erection workout. Basically 4 to 6 twenty minute hanging sets a day. Been using 10 pounds before my erection workout and 5 pounds after my erection workout do to post pge1 soreness.
Been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (1 pound weight sleeve) all through out the day except for when Im doing any Penis Enlargement workouts, fucking, using the bathroom and sleeping.
Hey sportsfan4236. I haven’t tried adding papaverine and eucommia to my DMSO/PABA treatments. I know papaverine is a vasodilator but I thought you have to inject that. Can papaverine be carried through the skin into the CCs with DMSO?
Hey houseofr00bees. Im not an expert on DHT cream since I haven’t used it yet but if you stay on DHT for short bouts then you should be fine. I plan on doing it in a 1 month on 1 month off cycle.
Well fellas. Been kinda lazy with posting my daily workouts but all is well. The day before yesterday I upped my pge1 dosage to 20 mcgs for the first time. The intensity and throbbing pain of my erection was rediculous. Got a 3 hour erection out of it.
Been doing 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging in the morning before my chemical erection workouts and 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging after my chemical erection workout. Basically 4 to 6 twenty minute hanging sets a day. Been using 10 pounds before my erection workout and 5 pounds after my erection workout do to post pge1 soreness.
Been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (1 pound weight sleeve) all through out the day except for when Im doing any Penis Enlargement workouts, fucking, using the bathroom and sleeping.
KS so are you going to come off your 1 month cycle wih novadex or clomid before resuming DHT? Im wondering how many times a day to apply this stuff. Im guessing maybe once in the morning before dmso/paba like you mentioned in previous threads, then do my morning routine and then once again in the evening, same before dmso/paba and do some pumping.. I guess i'll have to experiment.
kingsnake;525122 said:
what does it do to your flaccid?
with the papaverine and dmso ..you need to know the molecular weight and if its below that of dmso
http://www.piercenet.com/browse.cfm?fldID=02010503
http://bpsbioscience.com/phosphodiesterase/inhibitors/papaverine-27304
If its the same weight class then probably No!
papaverine 338
dmso 78
Jaronimo;525223 said:
Goggle gripsystem
8incyclops;525294 said:
lol at the price, that's some retarded cash i'm sure theres away to modify the divosuits. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=grip+system+penile+traction&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegripsystem.com%2F&ei=e93kUPj2K-OJjAKE0ICoDA&usg=AFQjCNHlZ5FydYPp2c5W-FFTgOznh0qrLg&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.cGE
The price is always a major put off for me check out autoextender.com there still pretty expensive tho
Jaronimo;525295 said:
The new sleeve that will be taking the place of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jim[/words]'s Wrap will be the best thing going. It gives excellent stretch with no weight, but when weight is added it becomes a formidable extension. The weight can be increased, with resistance to 3 pounds! It will be coming out at the same time the new site and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] drop. I will have samples soon for a few guys to test out. I love it, it is very powerful in the healing process and gaining is all about healing!
Hey houseofr00bees. Im not sure if I will take novadex or clomid after cycling off DHT. Im still saving money to buy DHT so it’s not in my protocol just yet.
Hey dickerschwanz. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] sleeve keeps my flaccid penis elongated with 1 pound of tension so any micro cell damage will stay open long enough for new cells to fill in the damage. Constant tension to living tissue causes cell division over time.
Hey Jaronimo. I have a pic of me wearing my weight sleeve in my pic thread along with me using my new hanger and some chemical erection shots.
Here’s a link to it.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ith-pics-and-comparisons)&p=525837#post525837
Hey DLD. The new sleeve system you’re talking about sounds good bro. I’d love to wear 2 to 3 pounds for hours a day. That much more tension for hours a day can lead to faster gains.
Hey fellas. Made some new gains. Stats are now NBPenis EnlargementL 9.5 inches x 6.5 to 6.55 midgirth x 6.65 basegirth. Gained .1 and a half in midgirth and just short of .1 inch base girth. Erect length still remains at nbpel 9.5 inches and bpel 9.8 inches. I think once my hanging weights start to get heavier the septum will start to grow in length which is the barrier holding me back from further length gains. It's crazy because with the new .1 in a half gain in midgirth there is a pronounce bulge on the left side of my dick when fully erect at midshaft. The bulge is not fluid build up neither but instead hard tissue. This bulged is the area of growth that has taken place since I’ve added hanging back into my routine and added igf-des into my chemical cocktail.
When hanging, I do emphasize hitting the left side of my dick a lot more since I have a slight leftwards bend toward the base. Im thinking the constant twisting my dick to the left while hanging straight down has really stretched any possible scar tissue out from the left side causing cell growth thus the left side of my dick at midshaft bulging with new thickness.
The other thing it could be is the IGF-DES that I’ve been injecting in my dick for the past 3 to 4 weeks is finally showing enhanced accumulation of cell division and angiogenesis. But from the looks of the way my left side is growing in girth this suggest that igf-des is extremely site specific depending on where you inject it which is great since when I inject my pge1/igf-des/tb-500 cocktail, I inject it at midshaft, alternating between the left side and right side of my dick for injection sites. Im very excited because the midshaft and the glans of my dick is what I care about the most with girth. My penis is beginning to show signs of taking on the base ball bat shape that makes a penis look top heavy and intimidating.
Also added back jelqing to my routine. Im doing 20 minutes right before my chemical erection workout and 20 minutes after my chemical erection workout is done. IGF-DES actually works better to recently micro damaged tissue because with micro cell damage present, more receptor sites flood the area. We want as many receptor sites as possible in the smooth muscles of the penis for IGF-DES and TB-500 to latch on to. This is the reason why I now jelq 20 minutes before injecting.
My routine for the last couple of weeks has been this. Added jelqing back 6 days ago.
Morning: DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes/ 2 to 3 twenty minute hanging sets with 10 pounds/ Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Evening: 1 twenty minute set of hanging with 10 pounds/ 20 minutes of slow deliberate wet jelqs using the overhand grip and the underhand grip/ Chemical erection workout for 2 to 4 hours/ DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 to 30 minutes toward the end of my painful erection/ 20 minutes of painful post pge1 wet jelqs/ 1 twenty minute painful post pge1 hanging set with 5 pounds.
Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device back on a go about my day. Only take off [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] if Im fucking a chick, using the bathroom, or going to sleep.
Hey dickerschwanz. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] sleeve keeps my flaccid penis elongated with 1 pound of tension so any micro cell damage will stay open long enough for new cells to fill in the damage. Constant tension to living tissue causes cell division over time.
Hey Jaronimo. I have a pic of me wearing my weight sleeve in my pic thread along with me using my new hanger and some chemical erection shots.
Here’s a link to it.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ith-pics-and-comparisons)&p=525837#post525837
Hey DLD. The new sleeve system you’re talking about sounds good bro. I’d love to wear 2 to 3 pounds for hours a day. That much more tension for hours a day can lead to faster gains.
Hey fellas. Made some new gains. Stats are now NBPenis EnlargementL 9.5 inches x 6.5 to 6.55 midgirth x 6.65 basegirth. Gained .1 and a half in midgirth and just short of .1 inch base girth. Erect length still remains at nbpel 9.5 inches and bpel 9.8 inches. I think once my hanging weights start to get heavier the septum will start to grow in length which is the barrier holding me back from further length gains. It's crazy because with the new .1 in a half gain in midgirth there is a pronounce bulge on the left side of my dick when fully erect at midshaft. The bulge is not fluid build up neither but instead hard tissue. This bulged is the area of growth that has taken place since I’ve added hanging back into my routine and added igf-des into my chemical cocktail.
When hanging, I do emphasize hitting the left side of my dick a lot more since I have a slight leftwards bend toward the base. Im thinking the constant twisting my dick to the left while hanging straight down has really stretched any possible scar tissue out from the left side causing cell growth thus the left side of my dick at midshaft bulging with new thickness.
The other thing it could be is the IGF-DES that I’ve been injecting in my dick for the past 3 to 4 weeks is finally showing enhanced accumulation of cell division and angiogenesis. But from the looks of the way my left side is growing in girth this suggest that igf-des is extremely site specific depending on where you inject it which is great since when I inject my pge1/igf-des/tb-500 cocktail, I inject it at midshaft, alternating between the left side and right side of my dick for injection sites. Im very excited because the midshaft and the glans of my dick is what I care about the most with girth. My penis is beginning to show signs of taking on the base ball bat shape that makes a penis look top heavy and intimidating.
Also added back jelqing to my routine. Im doing 20 minutes right before my chemical erection workout and 20 minutes after my chemical erection workout is done. IGF-DES actually works better to recently micro damaged tissue because with micro cell damage present, more receptor sites flood the area. We want as many receptor sites as possible in the smooth muscles of the penis for IGF-DES and TB-500 to latch on to. This is the reason why I now jelq 20 minutes before injecting.
My routine for the last couple of weeks has been this. Added jelqing back 6 days ago.
Morning: DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes/ 2 to 3 twenty minute hanging sets with 10 pounds/ Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Evening: 1 twenty minute set of hanging with 10 pounds/ 20 minutes of slow deliberate wet jelqs using the overhand grip and the underhand grip/ Chemical erection workout for 2 to 4 hours/ DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 to 30 minutes toward the end of my painful erection/ 20 minutes of painful post pge1 wet jelqs/ 1 twenty minute painful post pge1 hanging set with 5 pounds.
Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device back on a go about my day. Only take off [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] if Im fucking a chick, using the bathroom, or going to sleep.
I bought the economy package. The economy package doesn't come with a weighted sleeve though so i bargened with them and got one for half the price added to the economy package price. When I get paid this Friday I'm going to buy there pump gauge so I can increase vacuum pressure as the weights get heavier and to know how much pressure Im using.
Was thinking about buying the Circle Device but have only read bad reviews on it,wish I could make one from a heaver metal.
Of all the guys I've read after, snake man seems to be the most right on.
However, as was pointed out, he is a mad scientist and I think we are watching the messy
part of the sausage making (great pun) right now.
I'm satisfied chemicals are the way to go. But only as a way to enhance the mechanical [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]
aspects.
I'm also satisfied this can ALL be accomplished with much less to NO pain (unlike what the snake man has been experiencing.)
There might be some pain like you feel when you lift etc but very short term - nothing like 4 hour painful erections or being in so much pain that it actually hinders your ability to enjoy sex.
When that happens, you know you need to make a course correction. That's like getting a Bentley Arnage, but not being able to drive it because the seat adjustment leaves you in constant pain. Sorta defeats the Purpose.
I'm so new and still so overwhelmed by all the fresh information I'm taking in, that I'm gonna just wait til the snake man solves most of these issues.
That he's willing to be a human guinea pig for the rest of us should be respected and appreciated. But I hope, for his sake at least, that he solves the pain issues - stat.
It's almost to painful to read! Esp that part about making sure you buy the right needle gauge so you don't break off the needle in your COCK!
However, as was pointed out, he is a mad scientist and I think we are watching the messy
part of the sausage making (great pun) right now.
I'm satisfied chemicals are the way to go. But only as a way to enhance the mechanical [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]
aspects.
I'm also satisfied this can ALL be accomplished with much less to NO pain (unlike what the snake man has been experiencing.)
There might be some pain like you feel when you lift etc but very short term - nothing like 4 hour painful erections or being in so much pain that it actually hinders your ability to enjoy sex.
When that happens, you know you need to make a course correction. That's like getting a Bentley Arnage, but not being able to drive it because the seat adjustment leaves you in constant pain. Sorta defeats the Purpose.
I'm so new and still so overwhelmed by all the fresh information I'm taking in, that I'm gonna just wait til the snake man solves most of these issues.
That he's willing to be a human guinea pig for the rest of us should be respected and appreciated. But I hope, for his sake at least, that he solves the pain issues - stat.
It's almost to painful to read! Esp that part about making sure you buy the right needle gauge so you don't break off the needle in your COCK!
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bigdaddy777;527321 said:
Lol your Bently analogy is exactly what I am talking about with the dick not being able to go all the way in thing.
I agree that kingsnake is the most right on. He did what I would tell any newbie to do:
1. Manual stretching until gains are maxed out
2. Hanging (first BTC, then high angles/RSDT fulcrum - in snake's case, he had a low LOT so he starter at high angles. I would still have tried for low angled hanging but he went from 8"NBPenis EnlargementL to 9.5" NBPenis EnlargementL, which is very amazing)
3. Girth work, pumping and chemPenis Enlargement, once the hanging length gains are maximized.
4. Go back to hanging for any additional length gains, which he is doing with his chem Penis Enlargement protocol.
Good work, king.
I like the way you broke it down into 4 steps...
Manual stretching until gains are maxed out
That is something I can start on right away.
But, at what point do you conclude - I'm maxed out?
Manual stretching until gains are maxed out
That is something I can start on right away.
But, at what point do you conclude - I'm maxed out?
bigdaddy777;527367 said:
First of all, make sure you do thorough warm ups. You will know when your penis is ready to be stretched after you've heated it up and it becomes soft and jelly like. The skin surrounding the penis should feel looser than normally.
Next, do your stretches at a light tension when starting out. Very slowly increase the tension (force) each day, until you are stretching at your max force (or close to it).
Doing 2-3 shorter session per day is better than doing 1 big stretch session per day. Always stretching your dick throughout the day is a great idea. I did two 15 min sessions per day.
On the note of always stretching your dick, if you can help it, get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or some type of extending device (divo suit, small weight etc) and have your penis stretched out between manual stretch sessions.
The key is not to over do it. Start very slow. You don't want to set the bar high for tolerance, then always have to clear the bar each day/workout to see any gains. Start out with one 10 min manual stretch session a day, very light force. Gradually increase force, then maybe a two weeks later, throw in a second set during the day. Then maybe two weeks after that, start using your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 1 hour a day. Two weeks later, increase time in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] by an hour. All the while slowly increasing the force of your manual stretches. Heating up thoroughly before your session. You can also heat up right after the session, then strap into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. It's up to you. I always heat up after hanging my sets then jelq for 10-20 min.
Maybe you can do 5 min of jelqing every other day, slowly increase time with that. Try to do flaccid jelqing, after your manual session. You say you already have a thick girth. You want to work length before girth. More girth = tougher to deform the tunica, for two reasons. 1. A thick rubber band is harder to stretch than a thin one. 2. Doing lots of girth work toughens the tunica, making it harder to stretch and deform.
I jelq flaccid and find it puts my dick in the best possible state for hanging loose and long, and awaiting the next hanging session.
As for your question, you will know when you are maxed out from manuals when you have gone a few months without gaining any more BPFSL or BPenis EnlargementL, while still steadily increasing time and force. I wouldn't let it go more than 2-3 months without any gains before I start hanging. Better to get going with it.
Thanks for that!
8incyclops;525340 said:
The sleeve on there is the shit. I just got it and I've worn it all week working. The sleeve is 5oz and there is 9 and 14oz weights to attach to the end so u can have a little over a pound. I've worn it 7 straight hours working on my feet and to my surprise you don't notice I through my pants. I'm just over 7bpel and after 7hrs with this on I had over 6in flaccid! I'm in love I think this will help me a lot as I'm on my feet all day at work. Also no loss of blood flow at all and I've tried as much as 8 straight hrs took off once for 1 minute to pee and right back on
sounds good but I'd personally add in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] in the beginning also. I know a lot of you die hard manualguys don't deem it needed but I gained an inch off just [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] in my first 7 months of pe without doing manuals so it's effective for sureMikeShlort;527357 said:
MikeShlort;527939 said:
I'm at the 10 month mark and I'm still at step one. Manuals and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] although I've only done manuals a couple months. I'm still slowly gaining so no "real" hanging for me yet. Although this week I started wearing a sleeve with a pound of weight in it 7hrs a day. Figured this will will be a nice intro to step 2 and hopefully gain a little more before I have to hang if I do have to do it
Snake or anyone are you cycling the DMSO and PABA mix? or do you do it everyday just cant find the answer hidden in this thread
In Australia i can only find PABA in tablet form so i'm going to have to buy the tablets and break them up when mixing the DMSO hoping this will give the same result as the powder i don't see why it wouldn't.Anyone think differently??
Falcon88;528315 said:
Goggle it places come up unless you will be as dedicated as snake don't do it
Ramrod360;528360 said:
Thanks for that going to have to buy.
doublelongdaddy;529114 said:Calling the Snake...Calling Mr. Kingsnake, please report to the Chemical Log
Maybe no changes to his size to report.
8incyclops;530364 said:
Maybe he's getting tired of half-sticking every broad he meets.
Hey fellas the SNAKE MAN is here. Been in the lab training my penis hard and studying extensively on different growth factors and peptides that the penis is flooded with during puberty when receptors are high.
For the question on cycling dmso and paba the answer is no. There is no cycling. You are to use dmso/paba everyday. 2 times a day is best. We want the tunica and connective tissues as soft as possible and filled with as much anti scarring compounds as possible.
Ok fellas. My routine has been applified since the last time I posted which was a while ago. I've been using a new growth peptide added to my routine. I now introduce MGF aka Mechano growth factor.
IGF-I gene is spliced towards MGF. Mgf intiates the creation and division of stem cells in skellital muscle and smooth muscle. MGF mainly works on micro damaged tissue which is why bodybuilders inject mgf immediately post workout to created a large pool of new stem cell proliferation. Later after mgf levels have gone dropped, bodybuilders inject igf in the form of des or Long R3 to cause cell differentiation of the new stem cells created by MGF.
Both MGF and igf go hand in hand. So it’s like this. After causing adequate muscle damage, MGF is injected into the muscle to cause rapid stem cell division. These millions of new stem cells don’t have a purpose yet. They are immature cells but are extremely anabolic and excellerate muscle recovery. Later on igf is injected into the muscle to cause cell differentiation, meaning the igf will assign the new stem cells to a specific task, turning the stem cells into a permanent cell type. When injected into the muscles the igf turns the new stem cells from the MGF into muscle cells.
Guess what else mgf and igf effects. Smooth muscle. Guess what organ is loaded with smooth muscle and vascular tissue. You got it. The penis. As yall now I’ve been using igf-des in my chemical cocktail for some time now but 2 weeks ago I’ve added MGF into the mix. Im now injecting twice a day, 5 to 6 days a week.
I do my first injection in the morning after my morning Penis Enlargement workout is over. My morning injection cocktail is 40 to 80 mcgs of MGF and 100mcgs of TB-500. This cocktail is to promote angeogenisis, and stem cell proliferation after a heavy micro tissue damaging Penis Enlargement workout. After injection I cable clamp off a semi erection to trap the mgf and tb500 in my penis to give both peptides enough time to bind to as many available receptor sites as possible. MGF has a short half life of 5 to 7 minutes after injection making it extremely site specific in growth.
Later on in the evening I do my second injection after my evening Penis Enlargement workout. My second injection cocktail is 20 to 50 mcgs of igf-des, 100 mcgs of tb4, and 10 to 20 mcgs of pge1 for a 2 to 3 hour erection. This cocktail is to promote cell differentiation of the new stem cells created by the morning mgf shot and for a chemical erection.
My routine is as follows. 5 to 6 days a week.
Morning: 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment/ 1 hour of hanging using 5 to 10 pounds/ 40 minutes of extreme jelqing/ (MGF,TB-500 injection)
Evening: 20 minutes DMSO/PABA treatment/ 1 hour of hanging using 5 to 10 pounds/ 2 twenty minute pumping sets up to 5 to 6 gs of pressure/ (PGE1, igf-des, tb-500 injection) resulting in a 2 to 3 hour painful erection.
In between my morning and evening Penis Enlargement sessions Im still wearing my 1 pound weighted sleeve to heal in an extended state promoting constant cell division.
My erect girth stays at a constant 6.6 to 6.7 inches thick at midgirth from the all of the jelqing, pumping, and chemical erection workouts, I’ve been doing almost every day. Im still only counting my midgirth at 6.5 inches since with pumping false girth can happen from fluid build up.
My girth is becoming quite monsterous with new veins running along my shaft with the treatment of mgf and igf-des. None of the women that Im coming across can get any of there fingers to close around my dick when gripping me at midshaft which has always been my dream.
MGF AND IGF create perfect synergy in the penis. Mgf proliferates and IGF differentiates but they have to be injected separately at different times of the day our they will cancel each other out. When MGF is proliferating new stem cells, igf can’t be present other wise it will interrupt the proliferation process and start differentiating the stem cells prematurely which will limit the amount of new stem cells being created by MGF.
For those of yall that have read my essay I’ve talked about VEGF aka Vascular endothelial growth factor. The penis is mainly composed of vascular endothelial cells and rat studies have should VEGF restoring erectile function to castrated rats that have had there penis’s reattached.
VEGF causes growth of new blood vessels and blood pathways in tissue. The penis’s function is to become engorged with blood during an erection. With more blood pathways and vessels feeding the penis, growth and erectile function will be greatly enhanced.
Human VEGF is now available and there’s already a patent on it with doctors using it to enhance erectile capacity and growth in humans. The human brand of VEGF is called (VEGF 165 aa). I have several sources and have talked to 2 researchers over seas and will be buying some in 1 month after I get my income tax money back. Vegf is expensive because vegf is some serious shit.
Also on futher news, I got DHT aka andractam cream in route right now and it should be here hopefully this week. Im not playing around fellas. Im on a mission here with my protocol.
As you guys already now. A man’s penis size, especially his flaccid size is based on natural testosterone levels, aka natural DHT and the amount of vascular tissue in the penis. For men that are lucky through genetics to have abnormally naturally high DHT levels, and growth hormone levels they usually as a result are blessed with a huge flaccid size composed of a ton of vascular tissue that can engorge with more blood then average men. This is the hormonal environment that we need to be simulating fellas so our Manual Penis Enlargement training becomes more effective.
For the question on cycling dmso and paba the answer is no. There is no cycling. You are to use dmso/paba everyday. 2 times a day is best. We want the tunica and connective tissues as soft as possible and filled with as much anti scarring compounds as possible.
Ok fellas. My routine has been applified since the last time I posted which was a while ago. I've been using a new growth peptide added to my routine. I now introduce MGF aka Mechano growth factor.
IGF-I gene is spliced towards MGF. Mgf intiates the creation and division of stem cells in skellital muscle and smooth muscle. MGF mainly works on micro damaged tissue which is why bodybuilders inject mgf immediately post workout to created a large pool of new stem cell proliferation. Later after mgf levels have gone dropped, bodybuilders inject igf in the form of des or Long R3 to cause cell differentiation of the new stem cells created by MGF.
Both MGF and igf go hand in hand. So it’s like this. After causing adequate muscle damage, MGF is injected into the muscle to cause rapid stem cell division. These millions of new stem cells don’t have a purpose yet. They are immature cells but are extremely anabolic and excellerate muscle recovery. Later on igf is injected into the muscle to cause cell differentiation, meaning the igf will assign the new stem cells to a specific task, turning the stem cells into a permanent cell type. When injected into the muscles the igf turns the new stem cells from the MGF into muscle cells.
Guess what else mgf and igf effects. Smooth muscle. Guess what organ is loaded with smooth muscle and vascular tissue. You got it. The penis. As yall now I’ve been using igf-des in my chemical cocktail for some time now but 2 weeks ago I’ve added MGF into the mix. Im now injecting twice a day, 5 to 6 days a week.
I do my first injection in the morning after my morning Penis Enlargement workout is over. My morning injection cocktail is 40 to 80 mcgs of MGF and 100mcgs of TB-500. This cocktail is to promote angeogenisis, and stem cell proliferation after a heavy micro tissue damaging Penis Enlargement workout. After injection I cable clamp off a semi erection to trap the mgf and tb500 in my penis to give both peptides enough time to bind to as many available receptor sites as possible. MGF has a short half life of 5 to 7 minutes after injection making it extremely site specific in growth.
Later on in the evening I do my second injection after my evening Penis Enlargement workout. My second injection cocktail is 20 to 50 mcgs of igf-des, 100 mcgs of tb4, and 10 to 20 mcgs of pge1 for a 2 to 3 hour erection. This cocktail is to promote cell differentiation of the new stem cells created by the morning mgf shot and for a chemical erection.
My routine is as follows. 5 to 6 days a week.
Morning: 20 minute DMSO/PABA treatment/ 1 hour of hanging using 5 to 10 pounds/ 40 minutes of extreme jelqing/ (MGF,TB-500 injection)
Evening: 20 minutes DMSO/PABA treatment/ 1 hour of hanging using 5 to 10 pounds/ 2 twenty minute pumping sets up to 5 to 6 gs of pressure/ (PGE1, igf-des, tb-500 injection) resulting in a 2 to 3 hour painful erection.
In between my morning and evening Penis Enlargement sessions Im still wearing my 1 pound weighted sleeve to heal in an extended state promoting constant cell division.
My erect girth stays at a constant 6.6 to 6.7 inches thick at midgirth from the all of the jelqing, pumping, and chemical erection workouts, I’ve been doing almost every day. Im still only counting my midgirth at 6.5 inches since with pumping false girth can happen from fluid build up.
My girth is becoming quite monsterous with new veins running along my shaft with the treatment of mgf and igf-des. None of the women that Im coming across can get any of there fingers to close around my dick when gripping me at midshaft which has always been my dream.
MGF AND IGF create perfect synergy in the penis. Mgf proliferates and IGF differentiates but they have to be injected separately at different times of the day our they will cancel each other out. When MGF is proliferating new stem cells, igf can’t be present other wise it will interrupt the proliferation process and start differentiating the stem cells prematurely which will limit the amount of new stem cells being created by MGF.
For those of yall that have read my essay I’ve talked about VEGF aka Vascular endothelial growth factor. The penis is mainly composed of vascular endothelial cells and rat studies have should VEGF restoring erectile function to castrated rats that have had there penis’s reattached.
VEGF causes growth of new blood vessels and blood pathways in tissue. The penis’s function is to become engorged with blood during an erection. With more blood pathways and vessels feeding the penis, growth and erectile function will be greatly enhanced.
Human VEGF is now available and there’s already a patent on it with doctors using it to enhance erectile capacity and growth in humans. The human brand of VEGF is called (VEGF 165 aa). I have several sources and have talked to 2 researchers over seas and will be buying some in 1 month after I get my income tax money back. Vegf is expensive because vegf is some serious shit.
Also on futher news, I got DHT aka andractam cream in route right now and it should be here hopefully this week. Im not playing around fellas. Im on a mission here with my protocol.
As you guys already now. A man’s penis size, especially his flaccid size is based on natural testosterone levels, aka natural DHT and the amount of vascular tissue in the penis. For men that are lucky through genetics to have abnormally naturally high DHT levels, and growth hormone levels they usually as a result are blessed with a huge flaccid size composed of a ton of vascular tissue that can engorge with more blood then average men. This is the hormonal environment that we need to be simulating fellas so our Manual Penis Enlargement training becomes more effective.
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Cycling what was i thinking,your definitely on a mission here.
Hey Seun. Yeah it's been pretty rough for me with gaining any more length. I think the reason for this is because do to pge1 soreness from my chemical erection workouts, Im unable to hang with heavy weights during my daily hanging sessions. Lately all I've been able to handle is 5 pounds max with my vacuum hanger. Anything beyond 5 pounds and it feels like my tunica is tearing.
I think once Im able to start hanging some real weights like 10 to 20 pounds, length gains will pick up again but with these painful pge1 erection workouts, Im just to damn sore to hang heavy.
PGE1 leaves my dick sore and fatigued after my pge1 erection workouts. One thing Im curious of is with pge1 it actually helps to make soft issue more elastic and it's a potent vasodiolater thus it's use to generate an erection when injected into the penis. Now I know that pge1 is suppose to delink the tunica while the erection is going but why the fuck does it hurt so bad.
Im not bitching or anything since Im doing it to myself but I would like to know what is going on in the penis to where pge1 erections cause so much fucking pain. I can have sex with a pge1 erection with 10 mcgs injected but anything over 10 to 12 mcgs of pge1 injected and I get a throbbing painful erection and sometimes painful semi erection for 2 to 3 hours.
I know with other ed meds like trimix injections they use other vasodiolaters like pavernine and phentolamine to add with a small amount of pge1 and most guys don't report any pain. Im thinking of adding phentolamine to my pge1 injections, this way I don't have to use as much pge1 to get a 2 to 3 hour raging boner.
I've heard alot about pavernine's ability to keep the penis 95% erect for hours when combined with pge1 but Ima stay away from pavernine since I hear the risk of fibrosis is higer with pavernine injections. I have however heard that applying pavernine with dmso to the skin causes small vasodilation for a several hour semi erect hang according to ronielle experiances with it.
Still waiting on my DHT aka Andractim cream in the mail from allsaints. It's taking a long ass time for them clowns to get me my damn cream. LOL.
I think once Im able to start hanging some real weights like 10 to 20 pounds, length gains will pick up again but with these painful pge1 erection workouts, Im just to damn sore to hang heavy.
PGE1 leaves my dick sore and fatigued after my pge1 erection workouts. One thing Im curious of is with pge1 it actually helps to make soft issue more elastic and it's a potent vasodiolater thus it's use to generate an erection when injected into the penis. Now I know that pge1 is suppose to delink the tunica while the erection is going but why the fuck does it hurt so bad.
Im not bitching or anything since Im doing it to myself but I would like to know what is going on in the penis to where pge1 erections cause so much fucking pain. I can have sex with a pge1 erection with 10 mcgs injected but anything over 10 to 12 mcgs of pge1 injected and I get a throbbing painful erection and sometimes painful semi erection for 2 to 3 hours.
I know with other ed meds like trimix injections they use other vasodiolaters like pavernine and phentolamine to add with a small amount of pge1 and most guys don't report any pain. Im thinking of adding phentolamine to my pge1 injections, this way I don't have to use as much pge1 to get a 2 to 3 hour raging boner.
I've heard alot about pavernine's ability to keep the penis 95% erect for hours when combined with pge1 but Ima stay away from pavernine since I hear the risk of fibrosis is higer with pavernine injections. I have however heard that applying pavernine with dmso to the skin causes small vasodilation for a several hour semi erect hang according to ronielle experiances with it.
Still waiting on my DHT aka Andractim cream in the mail from allsaints. It's taking a long ass time for them clowns to get me my damn cream. LOL.
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