The snake man's chemical PE log

Hey Mikeshlort. No problem bro.

I get my 70% DMSO from supplement warehouse.com

Magnesium Chloride from vitacost.com

Paba powder from purebulk.com

Nascent Iodine from purebulk.com

Acetyl carnitine powder from purebulk.com
 
Thanks for the feedback and for Mike asking about sources(& for you answering).

Was curious what you think of applying multiple powders mixed in with DMSO?
For instance say DMSO(mixed to 70%)+Magnesium Oil(chloride)+ALCAR+Nascent Iodine.

How are you basing how much ALCAR / Magnesium / Iodine to use per each 70% DMSO treatment? From what you wrote previously, it's 70% DMSO + 30% distilled water? Someone linked a sterile source of DMSO on promuscle.

Just some tidbits I wanted to point out.
Magnesium: The chloride flakes from swanson are 51g per cup @ $13 per 44oz which = 1.247kg with a magnesium RDA of around 300-800mg(depending on where you look & not factoring bioavailability).

ALCAR: I take this orally ATM split into 500-600mg doses 2x a day for cognition. Most topical formulations(@ lotion/serum crafting sites) say to use it in a 1-5% solution (majority say 2%).

Iodine: A lot of people take iodine @ around 1-2 drops(1-5mg orally), others @ around 12-13mg, and some just go ape shit with the stuff touting it for curing a ton of aliments.
Have you looked into how available in the body iodine is using it topically+DMSO compared to orally? Since it has to go through intestines/stomach processes versus letting it set sail on your woody.
 
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Hey smerc. With Magnesium chloride I pour half a vial of the stuff in a vial then I filled the rest of the vial with 70% DMSO. I don’t follow any measurements.

With DMSO/PABA and ALCAR powder I pour enough powder until the DMSO reaches full saturation in that particular vial. When applying my chems, I use enough of each so my entire penis is completely coated with a layer of each chemical compound. After my first chemical compound dries on my dick which is magnesium chloride mixed with DMSO, I then apply my other chemical compounds, waiting for each one to dry which takes 7 to 10 minutes a piece.

With nascent iodine I fill up a vial with half of the solution, and then fill up the rest of the vial with DMSO.

Hey smerc. Keep in mind that papaverine has been shown to destroy smooth muscle cells of the penis when injected in high amounts, do to its acetic nature. Papaverine is a potent vasodilator and is best used with other vasodilators like pge1 so the minimum amount of papaverine is needed to get the job done.

Once I got to the point of injecting pge1 daily for my erection workouts, my body’s natural functions which involves getting a natural erection from being aroused began to diminish. It’s like my nervous system forgot how to properly get erect from mental stimulation and arousal. Since ditching PGE1 my system returned back to normal with in 2 weeks.

With igf and TB-500, I am indeed implying that they were fake. I say this because I’ve studied IGF and TB-500 extensively and the bottom line is, I should have gained way more then I did while taking both of these peptides. With the use of IGF, girth gains should have increased far more then it did with IGF’s ability to cause cellular hyperplasia and proliferation in the smooth muscles of the penis. TB-500 causes endothelial cell development when injected into the CCs of the penis. The fact that I didn’t make huge gains after months of injected both peptides, that tells me that Ergo pep’s peptides are bullshit.
 
Hey snake thanks for the info man i just red the whole thread.I want to try your topical program since i suspect i have some scar tissue build up because of the intense Hanging that i have done as well as not soo good hanger attachment technique and not much jelqing through the last 3 years.I've hung every day 6-7x20min sets.With very rare breaks.

So now i have stoped hanging and i am doing only pumping at 3hg + little jelqing for EQ. My goal is to dissolve the scar tissue and make my tunica more pliable and expandable to my pumping and future hanging as well as keeping it healthy at all times.I am slowly gaining girth right now.I know i shouldnt be doing girth work Before i achieve my length goals and i know this could possibly hinder my future length gains.But i want 6 EG and to fuck atleast 10 girls with a fat cock, before going back to hanging.

Soo about

(DMSO/MAGNISUIM OIL) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/PABA) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/ALCETYL Carnitine) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/NASCENT IODINE). for 7 minutes or until compound dries

So my question is after the 1st compound dries do i clean my dick with water and then apply the second compound and when it dries i clean it and i apply the third and etc ?
Or i just apply the am without cleaning the dick ?
Also when applying the compounds do i apply to the whole shaft plus the head of the penis or just the shaft without the head ?
Also i have DMSO that i haven't tried yet but its in plastic bottle can i use it or it is better to be safe and buy the one that you use with the glass bottle ?

Thanks again for your contributions here and before @ thunders you are really giving me great inspiration and motivation man.
 
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Hey smerc. With Magnesium chloride I pour half a vial of the stuff in a vial then I filled the rest of the vial with 70% DMSO. I don’t follow any measurements.

With DMSO/PABA and ALCAR powder I pour enough powder until the DMSO reaches full saturation in that particular vial. When applying my chems, I use enough of each so my entire penis is completely coated with a layer of each chemical compound. After my first chemical compound dries on my dick which is magnesium chloride mixed with DMSO, I then apply my other chemical compounds, waiting for each one to dry which takes 7 to 10 minutes a piece.

With nascent iodine I fill up a vial with half of the solution, and then fill up the rest of the vial with DMSO.

Hey smerc. Keep in mind that papaverine has been shown to destroy smooth muscle cells of the penis when injected in high amounts, do to its acetic nature. Papaverine is a potent vasodilator and is best used with other vasodilators like pge1 so the minimum amount of papaverine is needed to get the job done.

Once I got to the point of injecting pge1 daily for my erection workouts, my body’s natural functions which involves getting a natural erection from being aroused began to diminish. It’s like my nervous system forgot how to properly get erect from mental stimulation and arousal. Since ditching PGE1 my system returned back to normal with in 2 weeks.

With igf and TB-500, I am indeed implying that they were fake. I say this because I’ve studied IGF and TB-500 extensively and the bottom line is, I should have gained way more then I did while taking both of these peptides. With the use of IGF, girth gains should have increased far more then it did with IGF’s ability to cause cellular hyperplasia and proliferation in the smooth muscles of the penis. TB-500 causes endothelial cell development when injected into the CCs of the penis. The fact that I didn’t make huge gains after months of injected both peptides, that tells me that Ergo pep’s peptides are bullshit.
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Do you find that it takes quite a bit of ALCAR to saturate your DMSO mixture?
I'm thinking about adding it to a mixture, but not doing separate topicals, instead applying them all in the same bottle.
7minutes x4 applications wont fit into my current schedule especially when I start doing routines that will add around 20-30minutes.

For instance: (the below all in one 4oz bottle/vial mixture)
1oz "ALCAR + 70% DMSO PREMIXTURE"
1oz "Magnesium Oil + 70% DMSO PREMIXTURE"
1oz "PABA + 70% DMSO PREMIXTURE"
.5oz "IODINE" (which = half a 1oz vial and I might use less, still calculating how many drops per .5oz = how many mg of iodine)

All above solutions will have their own 4oz glass bottle, it's just they will be added to one sole use bottle and the 3 premixed bottles will go into storage for later use.

What are you doing in terms of storage? I know someone stated that their mixtures went bad after around 1-2 months.
I read from a few on curezone that dmso can be stored in the fridge. I'm going to have to look into the others, since those combined with dmso might solidify the whole mixture.

Do you think using iodine might be counterproductive?
It's claimed to have scar regeneration abilities. Which from what I understand, is the breakdown of scar tissue + the regeneration of collagen.
Not sure how that process is mapped, so I need to look into the studies. I had a notepad about topical iodine and supplementation that I compiled from the peyronies community, but I can't seem to find it. :|
 
Hey ishuge. After applying each compound and letting it dry, I don’t clean off my dick. There’s no point. I simply just apply my next compound to my penis since the last compound absorbed through the skin.

When applying the chems, I coat my entire penis with the chems except the glans. My glans skin tends to dry out from the chems so I usually avoid the glans.

With the DMSO you have in the plastic bottle, I wouldn’t trust it because DMSO is a powerful solvent that can dissolve plastic. Glass bottles and vials are best.

Hey smerc. If you’re going to mix all compounds into one vial that’s fine as well. If I’m in a hurry I put all the chems on at once and let it sit for 20 minutes. The reason I like to put on each major compound mixed with DMSO at a time is because by letting the first compound mixed with DMSO absorb and dry, the next compound I apply is also mixed with DMSO and so forth. This method allows a great amount of DMSO to be absorbed into the tissues of the penis which is good because DMSO is a tissue softener and anti inflammatory all by itself. Also what I didn’t mention is I load all of my compounds with paba in them as well so with each compound I’m applying, I’m also getting a mega dose of paba. So in all actuality it’s really like this.

(DMSO/MAGNISUIM OIL, PABA) for 7-10 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/PABA) for 7-10 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/ALCETYL Carnitine powder with a small amount of PABA mixed in) for 7-10 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/NASCENT IODINE, PABA). for 7-10 minutes or until compound dries

With storing my compounds I only mix enough of each to store in vials. So I have 1 vial of each mixed compound stored at a time. You don’t want to store a huge mixture at one time because after 1 month the paba mixed in the DMSO will go bad and the mixture will become brown and goo like in substance. I’ll post a picture of how I store my topical chems shortly.
 
Hey snake, do you notice any improvements in your erections since you are applying the topical solutions on your dick.As well as softening of the tunica and the dissolving of some scar tissue or calcium on you dick, if you had some of those before ?
I am talking about your current mix.
(DMSO/MAGNISUIM OIL, PABA) (DMSO/PABA) (DMSO/ALCETYL Carnitine powder with a small amount of PABA mixed in) (DMSO/NASCENT IODINE, PABA)
I think i have some scar/plaque/calcium tissue build up at the top of my shaft just behind the head where i attached my hanger for very long time.Also just noticed that my upward curve is slightly increased, looking at some old pics of my dick.Which is giving me shitty EQ and i think is preventing my smooth muscle to fully relax.
I did some heavy SO Fulcrum hanging for long time despite my upward curve and i riding through low EQ times with it was fatigue but i was clearly inflicting macro damage and maybe scar tissue response, since my hanger attachment point got swollen after my hagning sets.Curently i have stoped my hanging since 4 months.Completely Stoped Penis Enlargement for 2 months and saw not much improvement in the EQ department.So i resumed Penis Enlargement and now i am pumping 2 days on 1 day off one 15minute set.Then 5min jelqs, So i can keep the bloodflow and dont lose gains. I lost the throbing pulsating feeling when i have erection.And i very rarely have sponatneous erections throught out the day and when i do they last 10-20 seconds.Morning woods are pretty rare too and most of the time i wake up with semi erections like 50-60% and not 100% hard throbbing boners like before. From time to time i get 90% erection imediately after i wake up with a little bit kegels. When i masturbate i have to keep my ass and thighs flexed in order to mainatain the erection and to force blood into my dick.When i relax them i lose the erection.So i think something is preventing my smooth muscle to fully relax and seal the penis so i can have effortless rock hard throbbing boner..I dont think it is low Testosterone issue because i started hiting the gym hard and i am gaining muscle pretty fast also i am pretty lean.Also i didnt orgrasmed for like 10 days and my libido was super high and my penis was a lot more sensitive but still, i had to flex my ass in order to maintain the erection..The downside of this is that if i fuck a girl i cant flex my ass the same way as i do when i masturbate as well as when the pc muscle and legs get tired i lose the erection. Before i could keep it at 100% EQ rock hard and pulsating while all my muscles were completely relaxed and i could do it for as long as i wanted.
One more thing that i noticed when i am pumping my dick isn't expanding just behind the glans on the top of it where i think i have the scar/calcium/plaque build up.It exapnds lengthwise and to the sides as well as at the base but the top part just behind the glands almost no expansion there.
So snake sorry for the long post but tell me do you think your treatment can help me ? I already ordered magnesium chloride tommorow i am ordering paba dmso and the other stuff.
 
Kingsnake, sucks to hear about your results from the peptides. I seen that you mention Iron-Dragon and I can vouch that there peptides are top notch. I have used them since they opened up shop and have actually tried their Igf-1 Lr3 when I was still into bodybuilding.

I actually used to run a steroid source board before handing it over to another admin. It became too much of a grey area for me and I had too much to lose to get busted for members selling bulk powders. Anyways I don't think I have ever seen anything bad written about them. I haven't been back to my old board but I am sure nothing has changed with ID.
 
This really dried out my penis skin. I just started using a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] creme to counteract the effects, and it seems to be working. Anyone else use one of these cremes? Supposedly they are awesome for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] in general.
 
Hi, king snake

I"d like to give it a try a chemical penis enlargment, but there are a lot information about it.
Where can I find more information?
 
well hung;726040 said:
Hi, king snake

I"d like to give it a try a chemical penis enlargment, but there are a lot information about it.
Where can I find more information?
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Hopefully this bump will bring him back.
 
I know old thread but how the heck does he inject 5mcgs? It is such a tiny amount. How would he even be able to measure that on an insulin syringe? 1ml is 1000mcgs. Am I missing something here or does he mean 500mcgs of pge1 that he is injecting? Or is his vial diluted down enough to be able to take more accurate measurements of such tiny doses?
 
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I know old thread but how the heck does he inject 5mcgs? It is such a tiny amount. How would he even be able to measure that on an insulin syringe? 1ml is 1000mcgs. Am I missing something here or does he mean 500mcgs of pge1 that he is injecting? Or is his vial diluted down enough to be able to take more accurate measurements of such tiny doses?
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He was correct. I use 1mcg or even less sometimes., 0.5mcg. PGE-1 does not come in 1000mcg per ML. Caverject comes usually in 20mcg per ML.
 
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What up fellas. Snakeman here. Just posting an update on my Penis Enlargement training. I’m still doing chemical Penis Enlargement but only a small portion of it being just the topical portion with new topical chems added. I haven’t injected pge1, igf, mgf and tb500 for over 2 months now. I was up to injecting 95 extremely painful micrograms of pge1 which wasn’t granting me an erection over 30 minutes. I then switched to injecting only 15 to 20 mcgs of pge1 at night time which did grant me hours of hard wood but it kept me up all night. On top of that I was injecting so much for my chemical erection workouts that my natural erections started to suffer. It was like my body started relying on the pge1 for erections period, even for sex. I’m thinking the nerves that fire from the brain to the penis to initiate an erection started to get lazy since with PGE1 mental or physical stimulation isn’t needed. Once this started becoming consistent with me struggling to stay hard during sex with a normal erection, I said to hell with pge1 injections and stopped cold turkey.

Also after seeing that my gains have been minimal with chemical Penis Enlargement, I’ve also stopped with injecting all growth peptides in fear that they are all fake. I got all my igf-des, tb-500, and mgf from Ergopep.com, but after reading up on various sources it would seem that there peptides are all fake. The only thing that does work is the pge1 they sell but I’m also reading on complaints of solid crystals in the recent pge1 vials that people are buying from them. After vigorous studies on igf I’ve concluded that my dick would have grown a lot more with real igf use.

So right now I’m not injecting anything but I do plan on continuing with igf and tb500 penile injections once I find a legit company that sells the real shit. So far I’m hearing Irondragon.com and mpresearchsupply.com sells legit growth peptides. After the first two weeks of laying off pge1, my normal natural erections returned with a vengeance and I’ve been smashing hoes like crazy ever since.

Unfortunately, I have lost a little bit over .2 to my permanent dry girth since stopping cold turkey with PGE1 injections which means that CHEMICAL Penis Enlargement so far has only granted me a legit .1 in permanent girth instead of a quarter inch, making my midgirth 6.3 inches right now. Definitely sucks but what this means is that the constant daily PGE1 erections were causing both permanent and temporary gains like doing a pumping workout because right after a pumping set my midgirth reaches 6.5 to 6.6 inches again. Hoping with my new routine I'll get back what I lost and exceed it.

Right now my workout is centered around my topical chemical protocol which has grown. I’m using (DMSO/PABA), (DMSO/MAGNISUIM OIL), (DMSO/ALCETYL Carnitine), and (DMSO/NASCENT IODINE). My mechanical forms of Penis Enlargement are now pumping, hanging, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], and jelqing.

I’ll start with my topical protocol which I do twice a day. One session in the morning and one session in the evening.

What I do is apply magnesium oil mixed with 70% DMSO to my penis, letting the DMSO drag the magnesium oil through the skin into the tissues. Magnesium oil is a great compound that helps with energy production at the cellular level. Magnesium also helps to keep calcium and plaque out of the cells which is a must for Penis Enlargement. I let the magnesium oil/DMSO sit on my dick until it dries which usually takes about 7 minutes then I apply my next compound being the all familiar DMSO/PABA. After another 7 minutes I apply DMSO and powdered Acetyl L Carnitine.

Acetyl Carnitine has been used in peyronies studies for its ability to soften and dissolve scar tissue in the tunica. New discoveries have also been showing that carnitine increases androgen receptor activity through out the body. With an increase in androgen receptors this should make my next DHT cream phase more effective once I start DHT again.

The last topical compound that I apply 7 minutes later is nascent Iodine mixed with 70% DMSO. Nascent iodine has been known to soften scar tissue and hard plaques. I let the nascent iodine/ dmso dry on my dick then wash all topical chems off.

The purpose of all these topical tissue softening chems is to make up for me not using PGE1 right now since PGE1 is known to delink the collagen bonds of the tunica. My goal is to make my tunica as soft as possible for better Penis Enlargement gains. So in short my topical program is as follows.

(DMSO/MAGNISUIM OIL) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/PABA) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/ALCETYL Carnitine) for 7 minutes or until compound dries
(DMSO/NASCENT IODINE). for 7 minutes or until compound dries


So that sums up my topical chemical protocol. Now for the mechanical protocol. My Penis Enlargement training consists of hanging, pumping, jelqing, and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] use.

I’m hanging and using an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] every day now and pumping and jelqing every other day. Here’s the layout which is layed out using (DAY A) and (DAY B).

(DAY A)
AM workout

Topical chemical treatment 40 minutes
4 hours of hanging with grip system hanger

PM workout
30 minutes of wet jelqs
2 fifteen minute sets of pumping with vacutech elliptical cylinders with edging between sets.
10 minutes of wet jelqs
Another 2 fifteen minute sets of pumping with vacutech elliptical cylinders with edging between sets.
20 minutes of wet jelqs
5 to 10 minutes of edging
Equals to 1 hour of total jelq time and 1 hour of total pumping time.
Afterwards second 40 minute chemical topical treatment

Afterwards but [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on until bedtime unless I’m smashing a chick then no [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].

(Day B)
AM workout

40 minute chemical topical treatment
4 hours of hanging with grip system hanger
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Ads[/words] for rest of the day
Second 40 minute chemical topical treatment before bed if I’m not fucking with a team snake recruit.

So this has been my program for the past month now. I most say I’m very pleased with the thick walled elliptical vacutech pumps I’ve bought. They are oval shaped instead of circular shaped like a standard pump. Their oval shape is to mimick the natural shape of a penis for suppozet increased effectiveness according to vacutech. I’m using a 12 inch length by 2.5 inch width tube right now leaving me 2 inches of room to grow length wise before hitting the top. Hopefully with time I’ll pack that bad boy. I really like how intense the vacuum pressure is with the vacutech pump as oppose to the doctor Kaplan pump I use to use. With just 4 gs of pressure in the vacutech pump the vacuum is way more intense then with the Kaplan. Leaves my dick quite fatigued after my pumping/jelqing workout done every other day. I’ve also noticed less fluid build up with vacutech then my old Kaplan pump.

With all of the work I’m doing I’ve broken down what each exercise I’m doing is for. I consider my hanging workouts to be mainly for the tunica and ligs of the penis. Jelqing is to work the smooth muscle and glans of the penis. Pumping is to work the smooth muscle and the tunica of the penis.

Once I get some real IGF AND Tb-500, I’ll be commencing penile injections again to add to my new program.
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Hey Kingsnake,

What's the deal with your protocol now? Have you made much progress?
 
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