Thanks to all you who private messaged me! I gotta say the support from my fellow Penis Enlargement's budds is amazing and reflects big time on DLD on what kind of forum he has created here .

I'm coming back with different expectations and a new approach.

I am waiting on a few things and will post here shortly.
 
nycmike88;461993 said:
does only [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] work with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]

Any [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] Device can work with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. You may need to extend the reach of the exender with additional segments, but interface them with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] we have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] Clip for Tuggers that have loop handles and the SGX Clip for Tuggers with a Rod or Tube instead of a handle.
 
This is a brilliant attachment! Very comfortable and I feel able to go much longer than before with little discomfort. Nice work Supra and Ron!
 
I still don't have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] clip so I have only been using the strap (attached at the knee). I can still adjust it though for really good tension. Awesome. It feels good.

Also the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] + coat hanger is amazing for manual stretches! Just be careful not to apply to much pressure guys.
 
doublelongdaddy;462209 said:
This is a brilliant attachment! Very comfortable and I feel able to go much longer than before with little discomfort. Nice work Supra and Ron!

I wish it was comfortable for me as everyone else. I have tried everyones suggestions and I still get very irritating pinching On the foreskin
 
n8dogg;462312 said:
I wish it was comfortable for me as everyone else. I have tried everyones suggestions and I still get very irritating pinching On the foreskin

I am cut. I have found that if any of the skin closer to the glans than the cut line is still exposed, I get a pinch. As long as all of that skin is covered and only the skin below the cut line is touching the clear cone, there is no pinch for me. Hope that helps.
 
I'm really interested in getting this but I just don't know if I have enough foreskin as I'm cut. Does the foreskin need to cover my glans completely or is half way or less enough?
 
n8dogg;462312 said:
I wish it was comfortable for me as everyone else. I have tried everyones suggestions and I still get very irritating pinching On the foreskin

What about the Velcro attachment, have you tried that?
 
doublelongdaddy;462409 said:
What about the Velcro attachment, have you tried that?

Ya thats what I was using in the beginning but once i moved the tension up I can't go more then 30. Thats why I got the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] hoping I could atleast go an hour but its around 30 minutes also that the pinching on the foreskin is too much so i have to take off. I think I ijust need to email Ron and see if maybe a bigger cone would help
 
Lay'n Pipe;462338 said:
I am cut. I have found that if any of the skin closer to the glans than the cut line is still exposed, I get a pinch. As long as all of that skin is covered and only the skin below the cut line is touching the clear cone, there is no pinch for me. Hope that helps.
This has definitely helped me. It's like one of those little secrets that you have to find out either the hard way or someone else has found out the hard way and you just happen to read it and get that AHHH HAAA!!!! moment and think....I gota try this and for sure it does work. :-)
Thanks for the secret info Lay'n Pipe.
 
ADF;462552 said:
This has definitely helped me. It's like one of those little secrets that you have to find out either the hard way or someone else has found out the hard way and you just happen to read it and get that AHHH HAAA!!!! moment and think....I gota try this and for sure it does work. :-)
Thanks for the secret info Lay'n Pipe.

You are welcome! Glad I could help!
 
Started up again after a week break.
I received some new skin cones from Ron.If you guys are stretching at high tension and your skin cone is a great fit it may not be after 2 months.Its a good idea to have a new one as back up so you don't have down time-my first one lost its grip and great fit over time stretching at high tension.Comparing it to my new one it actually stretched out to be a little bigger...enough that the grip kept slipping.

I also ordered this time a few different sizes to play around with and see how they fit.The one size skin cone smaller than mine gives an even stronger grip on my foreskin.Anyone having pinching issues may want to try skin cones that are smaller or larger than the one they are having issues with.It may be the solution that works for them and makes the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] comfortable.

Wondering if anyone using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is close to a measuring date cause there are enough of us that started back in september.It would be inspiring to have someone report some gains from this!
 
I was going to measure but family visited for two weeks so I got a nice decon break myself. I will drop measurement in approx 30 days. But before my break my BPFSL .5" past my BPenis EnlargementL which was great to see. Flaccid gains are supposed to be precursors EL gains.

Dickleaker;462862 said:
Started up again after a week break.
I received some new skin cones from Ron.If you guys are stretching at high tension and your skin cone is a great fit it may not be after 2 months.Its a good idea to have a new one as back up so you don't have down time-my first one lost its grip and great fit over time stretching at high tension.Comparing it to my new one it actually stretched out to be a little bigger...enough that the grip kept slipping.

I also ordered this time a few different sizes to play around with and see how they fit.The one size skin cone smaller than mine gives an even stronger grip on my foreskin.Anyone having pinching issues may want to try skin cones that are smaller or larger than the one they are having issues with.It may be the solution that works for them and makes the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] comfortable.

Wondering if anyone using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is close to a measuring date cause there are enough of us that started back in september.It would be inspiring to have someone report some gains from this!
 
Yes they are precursors and I love seeing them...it is like seeing the future!:)
 
I didn't know that...I just measured my BPFSL and it is also 1/2" past my BPenis EnlargementL.
I am hoping you are right on that as a precursor to EL gains! Thanks for the hope ;)
pjp2002;462884 said:
I was going to measure but family visited for two weeks so I got a nice decon break myself. I will drop measurement in approx 30 days. But before my break my BPFSL .5" past my BPenis EnlargementL which was great to see. Flaccid gains are supposed to be precursors EL gains.
 
I might measure at the start of the new year, but I've been slackin a little and haven't gotten the 6 hour days I want :/

I did start stretching at 5.5"-5.75" at first and now stretching at 6.25" and it takes a lot less effort to pull the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] out to clip onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]

Also I heard with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] don't you see erect gains before flaccid? Dunno where I was hearing that.
 
SB,
No I go right into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and after I stretch out I will add more bars or more tension.I am stretching at 8" and my EL is about 7 1/4".
 
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.
 
Tennisguy

Thanks for that!
I started sept 5th with this setup and that is great news that you have gained 1/4" ...it certainly motivates me-its the kind of news I've been looking for so thanks for telling me and congratulations.You must be super inspired to see it working.
I think I will stick with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] cause i tried the comfort strap and the velcro mod and it just murdered my dick and I quit.i would rather get slower gains then quit cause then I'll get none ;).I stretch at the highest tension all the time and I do feel it in my ligs and all along my shaft(burn).

Are you house lockdown for a crime doing 6 hours a day?!haha
I get in about 5 hours sometimes 6.

I think you should repost this news about ur awesome gains...its big news for all of us using this setup!
tennisguy;463322 said:
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.
 
tennisguy;463322 said:
I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7.

Congratulations man! Well done - good news for you and all of us. I also agree with everything you wrote about our friend Dickleaker, he has been a great inspiration to me - a real good guy. I have slowly gained, but my real limit is the time I have - the most I have worn it for is 5 hours in one day, but generally average 2 hours. It would be great to have more time, but slowly and surely I will gain, as will you all.
 
Lay'n Pipe;462338 said:
I am cut. I have found that if any of the skin closer to the glans than the cut line is still exposed, I get a pinch. As long as all of that skin is covered and only the skin below the cut line is touching the clear cone, there is no pinch for me. Hope that helps.

exposed meaning visible through the cone after stretching outwards, right? So basically, you're saying we have to roll way higher up?
 
Hydromaxm, I tried this today and got pinching in the frenulum area after 30min or so. I don't always get pinching there though, so I will try again tomorrow.
I feel like I always rolled up quite far, but once I stretch out, the upper 1 or 2 cm of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] remain visible. How far does your skin go up the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]?

I wonder if I the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/cone I have is badly sized maybe.
 
SirKyle;463441 said:
Hydromaxm, I tried this today and got pinching in the frenulum area after 30min or so. I don't always get pinching there though, so I will try again tomorrow.
I feel like I always rolled up quite far, but once I stretch out, the upper 1 or 2 cm of the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] remain visible. How far does your skin go up the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]?

I wonder if I the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/cone I have is badly sized maybe.

I have 1 to 2 CM left at the top. I would email Ron and see if he can help.
 
Lay'n Pipe;463458 said:
I have 1 to 2 CM left at the top. I would email Ron and see if he can help.

He is really good with his email so feel free to contact him.
 
Put a sock around the base and add more tension or more bars.At higher tension will get shaft burn.
Gravik;463504 said:
How much shaft burn are you guys getting while stretching? The only burn I really get is the ballsack skin burn :/
 
The burn will happen and it will continue to happen when a new gain is happening. It is part of the process but it can be alleviated through various methods like a sock base or the like.
 
doublelongdaddy;463635 said:
The burn will happen and it will continue to happen when a new gain is happening. It is part of the process but it can be alleviated through various methods like a sock base or the like.
Just out of curiosity, did you ever use an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when you first started out at 6.5" or just manual Penis Enlargement and did your penis shaft burn with just manual Penis Enlargement? Thanks. Oh ya, and what year did you start Penis Enlargement at?

I get the burning too but figure it's just like you say, creating gains.
 
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ADF;463889 said:
Just out of curiosity, did you ever use an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] when you first started out at 6.5" or just manual Penis Enlargement and did your penis shaft burn with just manual Penis Enlargement? Thanks. Oh ya, and what year did you start Penis Enlargement at?

I get the burning too but figure it's just like you say, creating gains.


Oh, how I wish I were not so closed mined then, I was 100% natural and had to work twice as hard to get the gains then if I included the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I am so happy I have these tool now and they are helping me get to the biggest measuremen yet 11 x 7:)
 
doublelongdaddy;463967 said:
Oh, how I wish I were not so closed mined then, I was 100% natural and had to work twice as hard to get the gains then if I included the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. I am so happy I have these tool now and they are helping me get to the biggest measuremen yet 11 x 7:)
11x7 is SOOOOOOOOOO AWWWWWWWWWSOME !!!!!!!! :-)
When it fills with blood do you get light headed? ;)

Have you had time to check out the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] yet? I am reading that one can get slower gains with it compared to the Velcro strap and other methods. But that may be b/c [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] pulls the whole penis from the glands instead of from the base the way I feel the velcro strap doing. I am using The Velcro 4 hours in the morning and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] about 3 hours in the P.M. That way I hope I am getting a better overall stretch
 
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG?!!

The guys using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.
ADF;463995 said:
11x7 is SOOOOOOOOOO AWWWWWWWWWSOME !!!!!!!! :-)
When it fills with blood do you get light headed? ;)

Have you had time to check out the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] yet? I am reading that one can get slower gains with it compared to the Velcro strap and other methods. But that may be b/c [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] pulls the whole penis from the glands instead of from the base the way I feel the velcro strap doing. I am using The Velcro 4 hours in the morning and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] about 3 hours in the P.M. That way I hope I am getting a better overall stretch
 
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I picked up my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] somewhere around sept. Averaged about five hours a day wit a three week break at somepoint in there. Went from 7.25" to 7.75" BPFSL. EL sbould bd crieeping with growth here soon.
 
tennisguy;463322 said:
Dickleaker,

I started about the same time as you, if I remember right (end of Sept). I am also currently stretching to about 8" now, and started around 7. In terms of EL, I started at ~6.75 and am now at 7. I got frustrated when you didn't think that you gained, as I mainly kept motivated with this because of your posts. I am going to keep going since I have heard others say that BPFSL is an indicator of EL gains. I also modified my program recently to stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] ~4 hours a day, and then ~2 hours with just the regular noose. For some reason I feel the noose stretch at my ligaments more and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretch more at the skin. I think this combination has allowed me to add more bars over the past week when the tension lessens. Anyway, just wanted to post to let you know that I hope you keep going. You have motivated many.

Dickleaker;463336 said:
Tennisguy

Thanks for that!
I started sept 5th with this setup and that is great news that you have gained 1/4" ...it certainly motivates me-its the kind of news I've been looking for so thanks for telling me and congratulations.You must be super inspired to see it working.
I think I will stick with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] cause i tried the comfort strap and the velcro mod and it just murdered my dick and I quit.i would rather get slower gains then quit cause then I'll get none ;).I stretch at the highest tension all the time and I do feel it in my ligs and all along my shaft(burn).

Are you house lockdown for a crime doing 6 hours a day?!haha
I get in about 5 hours sometimes 6.

I think you should repost this news about ur awesome gains...its big news for all of us using this setup!

Dickleaker;464042 said:
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG?!!

The guys using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :-)

I don't think that one should just use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for length gains and nothing else. [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.
 
Dickleaker;464042 said:
Where did you read that you get slower gains with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG?!!

The guys using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are all new to this and both Supra and Tennisguy have reported great length gains in a short amount of time.To my knowledge no one else beside myself has measured yet so what you are saying could be misleading to others wanting to try this because of its comfort level.

I think we need to wait some more time and here others' reports on their measurements before stating something like that without fact.

Also Ron himself says that [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] will bring .25 in length in one year. So if you want faster length gains then don't just use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] by itself. If You trade comfort for faster gains then don't complain about it or try to make people like me feel that they are spreading false info around [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] site.
 
ADF,
Sorry for my overly strong response...have been down with stomach flu past few days and felt a bit knarly .
You should be commended for thinking outside the box and stretching both ways!

What are you using as wrap with the velcro strap?I could never get any level of comfort with that setup,so if there are going to be slower gains in exchange for comfort then its one that I am willing to pay.

Good luck with your routine and wish you good gains!!!
ADF;464074 said:
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :-)

I don't think that one should just use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for length gains and nothing else. [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.
 
ADF;464074 said:
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :-)

I don't think that one should just use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for length gains and nothing else. [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.

I agree, I think the fastest way to gain is a combination of exercises and equipment in such a way that it always keeps stressing gains.
 
ADF;464074 said:
I guess I got the idea from you and others who have only gained .25 in 2 months. Supra is the only one who says that he gained .75 in the same time. Maybe that's because he's Supra. :-)

I don't think that one should just use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for length gains and nothing else. [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just by itself might just give .25 in a few months but used in combination with Velcro strap or other methods could bring more.

I agree, I think the fastest way to gain is a combination of exercises and equipment in such a way that it always keeps stressing gains.
 
Dickleaker;464095 said:
ADF,
Sorry for my overly strong response...have been down with stomach flu past few days and felt a bit knarly .
You should be commended for thinking outside the box and stretching both ways!

What are you using as wrap with the velcro strap?I could never get any level of comfort with that setup,so if there are going to be slower gains in exchange for comfort then its one that I am willing to pay.

Good luck with your routine and wish you good gains!!!
It's all good. I am using this technique here.
 
he Penis Enlargement'd years ago and then lost some of his gains. He then gained 0.75", but I'm not sure how much of those are really above his old maximum, you know?
 
That is alot of length to lose!

I'm not sure either but if I am talking to him I will ask.

Have you seen any gains with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
SirKyle;464460 said:
he Penis Enlargement'd years ago and then lost some of his gains. He then gained 0.75", but I'm not sure how much of those are really above his old maximum, you know?
 
no no, I'm not saying he lost 0.75". It's probably less than 0.25", but I don't know.
I have seen gains, but I'm also hanging and using other means of extending. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] has created quite a bit of slack skin though. Not sure if I like it.
 
I'm not quite sure how I feel yet about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG setup. Its definitely 10 times more comfortable than any of the "16" different ways to attach from [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], and better than the velcro mod, but I cant tell if im really getting much of a stretch besides the skin itself.

Also I notice I'm not being stretched out nearly as far out as I would with the velcro, so I'm not sure if there really is much being stretched out on the inside, or if it's just skin. Does anyone else notice that they aren't being pulled as far out? Is this fine/normal?
 
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