n8dogg;461284 said:
I'm still having a tough time with this thing. I tried to not use as much skin in the cone and to pull down the skin so its not pinching but its SO annoying that I can't get it to work comfortably. Theres a few of us that are having the same problem. Can someone be so kind to post a video of how you attach it? I'm wondering if we just aren't attaching it right. My dick can take a TON of abuse but this thing is just not working out

Man try the following - apologises if you have already done this.

With the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] - try putting this on. Once on, get a coat hanger and use it to pull on the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] metal clip/hoop ie the part you would usually hook onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] head piece. Pull enough to stretch your cock, and get it to a point where you can start to feel wither the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] coming off or pinching. Then keep the stretch just under that level for 30 seconds. Do this a couple of times.

The with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], take off all the rods except the ones that are fixed to the basal unit. Add the minimal number of rods to get a very light stretch then hook the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. As long as you have a see through Skin cone, then you can watch and see what is happening - whether its pinching or slipping etc thats causing the problem. I would suggest that you build up time in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rather than intensity of stretch using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].ie go for longer continous wear rather than longer stretches in length. Even if your stretch length in cm is shorter than using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] without the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

This is the method I use when I need to add a rod to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Right now, once the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is on, I can use the screws to stretch another 1/2 inch and wear it for 90 mins at a time. But I just cant add another 1/2 inch rod and hook up to it!! If I do get it hooked up, then the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] slips off after 30 mins or so.

Please keep trying this set up - it does work - but it may take longer for some to work out the best way for them- good luck brother
 
Dickleaker;461279 said:
JS,

I am super motivated since starting this routine so its fun for me to stay active in this thread and help others if I can.

Looking forward to results as well thanks.

Great idea with the strap ...I have been wearing to work for 2 weeks now at about 6 to 8 hours a day with no issues at all.Maybe that will add to the gains as well but who knows altho its one of DLD's proven theories called [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].

I like your motivation. especially since you are getting gains and one of my most active people on this device.
 
Congratulations on the gains!

To Supra, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. Eventually everyone will move into the better techniques of modern Penis Enlargement, it will take us continuing to push Penis Enlargement to make this possible,
 
I have been stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the strap - awesome stuff! Im going to be building up so I can stretch while sleeping and at work.

Once I get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] clip i'll be using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] everyday...
 
JohnSwindle;461563 said:
I have been stretching with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the strap - awesome stuff! Im going to be building up so I can stretch while sleeping and at work.

Once I get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] clip i'll be using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] everyday...

I will be getting my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/TLC package tomorrow:)
 
going all out;461604 said:
I was wondering since I am uncut can i still use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] system or no its not for uncut people?

I'm also uncut. The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] works great for uncut people.
 
I've been wearing the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] every day for about 3 weeks now. My dick's gotten used to it so I can wear it under pretty good tension for hours at a time now. The other day I did 5 hours straight and only took it off to go to the bathroom, otherwise I could have kept going. For any of you guys having discomfort issues all I can say is work through it as best you can. You'll get used to wearing it.

In the beginning I found the more skin I got onto the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] the longer I could go before I started to get the burn. It spreads the pulling tension across a greater surface area of the skin so I imagine that's why it burns less.

I was cut very tight but still managed to work it on. One thing I do is after I have skin rolled up onto the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] I grab the skin at the top edge and pull it - focusing on the skin rolled underneath. This gets any extra skin that may be pinched or folded under the skin rolled onto the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]. I work my way completely around and get all the inside skin pulled up tight. This has helped me tremendously with any discomfort wearing the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

I've grown some more skin so it's easier to get skin rolled up onto the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

I wear the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] every day with the leg strap. A few posts back I explained how I can keep good tension on it when I have to sit down. I have definitely seen some girth growth and will measure it after wearing it for a couple more months.
 
Steady;461624 said:
The other day I did 5 hours straight and only took it off to go to the bathroom, otherwise I could have kept going. .

Thats fucking great my friend. I keep taking it off at 90 mins as worried about circulation etc - otherwise I could also keep it on. I might just try leaving it on tonight and seeing how long I can go. Well done mate!
 
Good morning guys,


I measured on the weekend both saturday and rechecked on sunday to make sure.
I got no gains and am disappointed and discouraged.

I don't think I will give up but it sure does a number mentally when I was so optimistic and put in so many hours.

I am hoping you guys can offer me some words of wisdom and encouragement.

My routine has been 2 months at high tension for 5 to 6 hours every day.The last 2 weeks has been lower tension cause my skin cone has kinda worn out and lost its elastic strength,so have had to stretch at a lower tension to keep it from slipping off as it has lost its grip.
 
Dickleaker;460783 said:
My dick doesn't have a chance with this setup and has no choice but to grow into a monster ;)

5 days ago you were so optimistic.

Measure your length in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and compare it with your erect length. When FastSize had its own forum, people noticed that they didn't gain erect length unless they were stretching at or above their erect length (with the exception of initial gains). Stretching below erect length could increase flaccid length, but generally didn't increase erect length. This [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] setup might not allow you to stretch far enough.
 
I am stretching to 8" in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
My erect length is 7 1/4".
Baba_Booey;461639 said:
5 days ago you were so optimistic.

Measure your length in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and compare it with your erect length. When FastSize had its own forum, people noticed that they didn't gain erect length unless they were stretching at or above their erect length (with the exception of initial gains). Stretching below erect length could increase flaccid length, but generally didn't increase erect length. This [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] setup might not allow you to stretch far enough.
 
Dickleaker;461638 said:
Good morning guys,


I measured on the weekend both saturday and rechecked on sunday to make sure.
I got no gains and am disappointed and discouraged.

I don't think I will give up but it sure does a number mentally when I was so optimistic and put in so many hours.

I am hoping you guys can offer me some words of wisdom and encouragement.

My routine has been 2 months at high tension for 5 to 6 hours every day.The last 2 weeks has been lower tension cause my skin cone has kinda worn out and lost its elastic strength,so have had to stretch at a lower tension to keep it from slipping off as it has lost its grip.

hey dickleaker bad news bro, keep the faith, stick with your routine and give it lots more time, at least some more months, to early to quit, i think this setup is going to take lots more time to show gains

imo its a better stretch when you work from behind the glans and stretch, but we all no how painful that is and can't sink enough time into because of that, so i think we are choosing the long route here

but giving ourselves comfort and a pain free journey, my length stats are exact same as you, plus we are stretching to same length, i'm over 5 weeks doing this but doing 8 hours a day, so i will check

at two months and see if extra time has made a difference.
 
Dickleaker - my brother dont get too down about this - we can work out whats happening and not working between all of us on this forum. Alot of us are using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] - I am gaining some length - and Supra gained a shitload of length. Hang in there, I am sure we can come up with something to explain what has happened.

As for not getting enough stretch with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] - if that was true, then why did Supra gain?
 
Maybe we can modify what you are doing now to try to figure why you are not gaining. What exactly are you doing now?
 
Thanks for sharing that with us dickleaker. I am sure you are disappointed but at least you gave it a good shot.

I think there isnt a need to devote more time or hours into the same set up. No need for that, instead switch strategy and use another Penis Enlargement method. Maybe try heavy hanging once per day and let me follow dashdeming routine. Mentally it isnt to bad because you are only committing 30 mins at most per day to it. Or you can do heaving hanging and ten use you [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with nose or strap but without the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words].

Basically try something new. We all know Penis Enlargement is a life long commitment so hang in there buddy.

Once again, thanks for sharing your result. It doesnt matter whether is was good or bad, it give others a chance to consider if this set up is worth a shot for them.
 
Sorry about that, Dicklearker. I also bought the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and honestly don`t think it pulls a lot on the internal shaft, I feel like it pulls much more the foreskin (I know it`s not the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words], but still it pulls the foreskin).
Correct me if I`m wrong, but doesn`t the foreskin stand to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], like the silicone sleeve stands to the VACADS or the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? I mean, foreskin and sleeve in the two different systems simply seal the vacuum. So why not using a sleeve on the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], instead of the foreskin? This way you don`t risk pinching problems and also put much more stress on the internal shaft instead of the external skin.
I hope it makes sense...
 
I just got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and tried it out. I'm a little skeptical especially after dickleakers results, but I figure it's worth a shot anyway. When I am wearing it I notice that the stretch is quite different than using the noose. I feel it more stretching my shaft, where when I'm in the noose I feel a strong stretch in the ligament. Is this right, or am I wearing it wrong.
 
e.zeus1;461678 said:
I just got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and tried it out. I'm a little skeptical especially after dickleakers results, but I figure it's worth a shot anyway. When I am wearing it I notice that the stretch is quite different than using the noose. I feel it more stretching my shaft, where when I'm in the noose I feel a strong stretch in the ligament. Is this right, or am I wearing it wrong.

I will be able to give you some help soon:) My package should be waiting for me when I get home:)
 
Dickleaker;461638 said:
Good morning guys,


I measured on the weekend both saturday and rechecked on sunday to make sure.
I got no gains and am disappointed and discouraged.

I don't think I will give up but it sure does a number mentally when I was so optimistic and put in so many hours.

I am hoping you guys can offer me some words of wisdom and encouragement.

My routine has been 2 months at high tension for 5 to 6 hours every day.The last 2 weeks has been lower tension cause my skin cone has kinda worn out and lost its elastic strength,so have had to stretch at a lower tension to keep it from slipping off as it has lost its grip.

I see you are having some problems. You need to take a 2 day break and give you skin a change to grow and regain its elastic strength. When I cant keep the cone on and have been wearing it for days its for that very reason, you cells have broken down. I promise you if you take 2 days off you will be right as rain and come back stronger than ever. While you are taking the break, go back to manual exercises or use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
 
Be gentle an kind with yourself! You have worked very hard an sometimes we need to stop an regroup to make things right. I look forward to your return.
 
Dickleaker;461717 said:
Thanks guys for all your feedback!

I am going to take a couple of days off to clear my head and think how I wanna go forward.

bro, 2 months of work is 2 months of work, but we don't know what could happen in that 3rd month, that 4th month. I think Supra's advice is sound. work for 5 days, and take 2 off. I think healing time is essential.

I haven't measured myself, but I know for sure that I am gaining girth. When I go into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], my base girth seems to get caught. So where I could get to 182 in length in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], I can only get to about 168 or so.

Stay with it, bro, you're the reason I gave this thing a shot! I believe in you!

t
 
fonic;461646 said:
hey dickleaker bad news bro, keep the faith, stick with your routine and give it lots more time, at least some more months, to early to quit, i think this setup is going to take lots more time to show gains

imo its a better stretch when you work from behind the glans and stretch, but we all no how painful that is and can't sink enough time into because of that, so i think we are choosing the long route here

but giving ourselves comfort and a pain free journey, my length stats are exact same as you, plus we are stretching to same length, i'm over 5 weeks doing this but doing 8 hours a day, so i will check

at two months and see if extra time has made a difference.

How are you guys staying in these for 8 hours.
 
Supra;461704 said:
I see you are having some problems. You need to take a 2 day break and give you skin a change to grow and regain its elastic strength. When I cant keep the cone on and have been wearing it for days its for that very reason, you cells have broken down. I promise you if you take 2 days off you will be right as rain and come back stronger than ever. While you are taking the break, go back to manual exercises or use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
Just got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] today and it seems to work OK and hold well.
My clear skin cone is a little to wide for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] bars so could I
trim it down just a tiny bit so it fits between the bars better?
So if you take 2 days off for every 5 days of [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] then you will have
better gains since your giving your penis time to heal right? [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Traction[/words] wrapping for these 2 days should also help with healing right?
Thanks Supra,
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shavenasian;461782 said:
You are so lucky!

Yeah its definitely got its benefits!......guys i'm confused again with this whole 2 day break thing now cropping up, i dont mind putting in the hard graft by sinking in the hours extending

am i doing this for nothing i do it 7 days a week, so am i not gonna see gains, i thought you got all repair work done to cock when you were asleep and by continuing to stretch daily

you are keeping things pulled out, i don't get why we would need two days off maybe a just don't get this concept. is everybody else taking days off.
 
No I wasnt taking days off, but have now decided to do [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for 5 days and then Pump and Jelq for 2 days (25 min pump followed by 200 jelqs times 3)
 
shavenasian;461786 said:
No I wasnt taking days off, but have now decided to do [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for 5 days and then Pump and Jelq for 2 days (25 min pump followed by 200 jelqs times 3)

ok cool...i wouldn't have thought much rest was required with extending because its pulling at such minimal force, from a personal point of view i like to do one or the other, extending only or pumping only

i'm giving this [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] a solid 3 months period if i don't gain anything then ill move on....and probably finish my pe career with a pumping routine.
 
I notice that the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretches the outer layer of shaft skin first then the inner penis and tendons, while the Velcro strap stretches inner shaft first with the tendons etc., then the outer shaft skin second. So I will continue to use both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the Velcro strap for stretching the different parts of my penis. Also with the velcro strap if I extend with it pointed downward it stretches the top part of my shaft and if I extend with it pointed upward then it stretches the bottom of my shaft.

I am going to work out an extending routine using both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the Velcro strap for stretching my complete penis top side bottom side inner and outer shaft. I also have the peyronie's curve to deal with as well.
 
ADF;461793 said:
I notice that the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretches the outer layer of shaft skin first then the inner penis and tendons, while the Velcro strap stretches inner shaft first with the tendons etc., then the outer shaft skin second. So I will continue to use both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the Velcro strap for stretching the different parts of my penis. Also with the velcro strap if I extend with it pointed downward it stretches the top part of my shaft and if I extend with it pointed upward then it stretches the bottom of my shaft.
I feel the same way. I think I'll continue with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words], but maybe still use the noose too
 
ADF;461793 said:
I notice that the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] stretches the outer layer of shaft skin first then the inner penis and tendons, while the Velcro strap stretches inner shaft first with the tendons etc., then the outer shaft skin second. So I will continue to use both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the Velcro strap for stretching the different parts of my penis. Also with the velcro strap if I extend with it pointed downward it stretches the top part of my shaft and if I extend with it pointed upward then it stretches the bottom of my shaft.

I am going to work out an extending routine using both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the Velcro strap for stretching my complete penis top side bottom side inner and outer shaft. I also have the peyronie's curve to deal with as well.

Same here:) I have not tested enough but this seems to be accurate so far.
 
It's hard to say. For me I think it's kind of doing both, but it doesn't seem to make my tendons and ligaments as sore as with the noose so it might not pull them as hard. It probably depends on how much skin you have
 
"One thing I do is after I have skin rolled up onto the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] I grab the skin at the top edge and pull it "

I do this too and its great!
 
I've woke up this morning with the mindset that its me versus the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words].......this cannot beat me, i'm more determined than ever to get some gains, who dares wins!

only problem is i'm getting grey hair now....do i have enough time left.
 
Hey if I want to do foreskin restoration and stretching at the same time could I use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]?

or does only [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] work with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]
 
As with everything else in this universe that is binary, for my extending routine I will switch on and off alternating between both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and Velcro strap each day. That is 1 day [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] next day Velcro then [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] then Velcro etc. This will give me the best possible distribution of equal time for both extending types. Between the two I will be having my penis stretched daily except for Sunday when I break to let my penis heal while [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] wrapped. This should give me an over all physical therapy and Penis Enlargement routine for my Peyronie's and lengthen my penis at the same time.
 
ADF;462000 said:
As with everything else in this universe that is binary, for my extending routine I will switch on and off alternating between both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and Velcro strap each day. That is 1 day [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] next day Velcro then [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] then Velcro etc. This will give me the best possible distribution of equal time for both extending types. Between the two I will be having my penis stretched daily except for Sunday when I break to let my penis heal while [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] wrapped. This should give me an over all physical therapy and Penis Enlargement routine for my Peyronie's and lengthen my penis at the same time.

That's great, I think I'm probably going to do the same. Good luck!
 
I have the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the straight rod out of the top and I thought maybe I would try twisting it for bundled stretches. Well if you have this one, don't. The rod just unscrews and comes out. Maybe the other ones with the weird looking clip could work for bundling though.
 
e.zeus1;462006 said:
I have the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the straight rod out of the top and I thought maybe I would try twisting it for bundled stretches. Well if you have this one, don't. The rod just unscrews and comes out. Maybe the other ones with the weird looking clip could work for bundling though.
Ya, the clip one's you can twist all the way around so they will work great for bundling. Maybe a half twist to start since with each twist you shorten the available shaft length to work with.
 
forgive me if this was discussed in one of the 35 pages i dont wanna read through as i am in a bit of a rush. will this work with the fast size [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? would rather not drop another 150$ on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
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