Thanks guys for your help with my previous question. Massaging shaft after injection definitely helps get an even erection.

What's the growth mechanism? I thought that it was a case that your CCs would eventually get bigger due to prolonged expansion.

However today it feels as if the muscle enveloping the the CCs - the tunica - is much more plump and thicker when I jelq up and down - a bit lumpy in places as it were - but not exactly sure how to describe it. It's as if I can move it up and down the shaft of my penis and it will 'squish' back in place.

Not sure if this is OK or is it scar tissue building up (only pinned 5/6 times)?

(I'm just using PGE1 and have not considered using paba etc as only want 1/4 - 1/2 inch girth gain).
 
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King on your other thread you advised me to use DMSO/PABA treatment to soften up my tunica I'm abit new to the whole chemical pe thing where would it be best for me to start on what to do (how to use it, price, where to get it from etc) thnx as always
 
November 15, 2012 Thursday

5:00am to 5:20am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

5:40am to 6:20am 40 minutes bundled stretches

10:25pm injected 6 mcgs of PGE1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into left chamber. Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems until erectile response took place.

10:35pm Took off cockring to open up the flood gates

10:35pm to 1:00am 80 to 90% erection while edging periodically

1:00am to 2:30am 75% to 50% erection Did second DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes during this time.

2:30am to 2:45am 1 fifteen minute pumping set up to 5 gs

Total pge1 erection time. A little less then 4 hours

Ok fellas. I had to work overtime this day which caused me to do my injections late. After good caculations I injected only 6 mcgs of pge1 since my response to it is a lot better at night, thus me not needing as much. I only did 1 pumping set toward the end of the erection since it was getting late and I was sleepy as hell.
 
November 16, 2012 Friday

7:00am to 7:30am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

7:40am to 8:20am 40 minutes of bundled stretches

12pm injected 12mcgs of Pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into right chamber. Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems in the CCs until erectile response took place

12:10pm Took cockring off opening up the flood gates

12:15pm to 1:15pm 80 to 95% erection while edging

1:15pm to 2:15pm 95% down to 50% Had to pop 4 sudafed and take care of an emergency at my job which fucked up my workout.

Total pge1 erection time: 2 hours. Pissed off

Ok fellas. It was suppose to be my day off from work but I got called in do to a crisis in the data centar. I got the call at 1:00pm. After getting the call to come in, I had to get my erection down right away so I popped 4 sudafed to get the process going. Didn't get home from work until 7pm. Went pussy hunting with the fellas afterwards. Also Im now all out of TB4. Once I get some extra money I'll be ordering some more TB4 but also some IGF-DES, pentox, DHT cream and a vacuum hanger to add to what Im doing. For now it's just PGE1 to inject.
 
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kingsnake;518129 said:
November 16, 2012 Friday

7:00am to 7:30am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

7:40am to 8:20am 40 minutes of bundled stretches

12pm injected 12mcgs of Pge1 and 100 mcgs of tb4 into right chamber. Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems in the CCs until erectile response took place

12:10pm Took cockring off opening up the flood gates

12:15pm to 1:15pm 80 to 95% erection while edging

1:15pm to 2:15pm 95% down to 50% Had to pop 4 sudafed and take care of an emergency at my job which fucked up my workout.

Total pge1 erection time: 2 hours. Pissed off

Ok fellas. It was suppose to be my day off from work but I got called in do to a crisis in the data centar. I got the call at 1:00pm. After getting the call to come in, I had to get my erection down right away so I popped 4 sudafed to get the process going. Didn't get home from work until 7pm. Went pussy hunting with the fellas afterwards. Also Im now all out of TB4. Once I get some extra money I'll be ordering some more TB4 but also some IGF-DES, pentox, DHT cream and a vacuum hanger to add to what Im doing. For now it's just PGE1 to inject.

Should hit up some of them cock sluts of yours for the loot, tell them it costs money to have a dick like that and they gotta donate to the cause
 
Hey MikeShlort. You’re funny as hell bro. LOL. Yeah I hear ya on getting these chicks to donate to the cause but times are rough in this economy bro. I’ll have the money soon enough to really shake things up with my protocol.

I been a lot of man hours put in since I started Penis Enlargement back in 2008. But it’s been worth it. The women that I’ve shocked, excited and confused all at the same time with my Penis Enlargement gains has been well worth the time and effort put in to building my weapon. Still not done yet though. Not until I at least reach nbpel 10 inches by 7 midgirth and even after that I most likely will keep going if more gains are possible.

November 17, 2012 Saturday

9:00am to 9:30am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

9:40am to 10:20am 40 minutes of bundled stretches

7:30pm injected 10mcgs of Pge1 into right chamber. Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems in the CCs until erectile response took place.

7:40pm Took cockring off opening up the flood gates

7:45pm to 9:45pm 80 to 95% erection while edging

9:45pm to 10:45pm 90% down to 70% erection

10:45pm to 11:30pm 70% down to 50% erection

Total pge1 erection time: a little under 4 hours

11:30pm to 12:00am DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

12:15am to 1:00am 2 fifteen minute pumping sets up to 5 gs POST PGE1 erection workout to take advantage of tunica delinking.

1:10am to 1:20am 1 ten minute clamping set to really blow up the tunica with good stretch force from with in.

1:40am to 2:00am 20 minutes of bundled stretches once completely flaccid to finish off the already tired tissues of the penis


Ok fellas. This time around I injected late again. The one advantage of this is my body response better with PGE1 in the evenings or nighttime so less PGE1 is needed to get a 3 to 4 hour erection. Only needed 10mcgs of PGE1 this time around. With only 1Omcgs my erection did have some pain and aching to it but not nearly as bad as 15mcgs and up.

One thing I’m starting to notice is it’s getting harder to inject. I find myself having to push the syringe in with more force to penetrate the tough tunica into the CCs which is becoming pretty painful. Yesterday was the most painful injection yet. I’m thinking that my tunica is starting to get tough with all of the Penis Enlargement work I’ve been doing and the actual injections almost every day.

I’ve been using a 29 gauge syringe the whole time but now I’m going to be buying some 30 gauge syringes since they are thinner which should mean less pain during injections. The 30 gauge needles are weaker in strength since there thinner but I’ll be really careful while injecting so they won’t break off in my unit. I’ve read that ronielle just started using the 30 gauge syringes himself and has reported less pain and easier penetration during injection.

Well fellas. After doing a bit of research I found this PDF book on chemical penis enlargement and think it’s a great read on the importance of DHT levels and penis enlargement. In this link they talk about using DHT cream to enhance your gains in combination with exercises then after 2 months you cycle off DHT and the exercises to let the penile tissues decondition and the down regulated androgen receptors in the penis rest for a month to up regulate, in which then you’ll blast the penis through another growth phase with Penis Enlargement exercises and DHT cream.
CoughRonielleCough does this as well and he suggested I do this but I guess after actually reading it from another source it makes sense. I remember talking to him on the phone and he told me that he had to take it easy with DHT cream in his chemical protocol because his girth was becoming to big making it difficult for his clients to take his size.

Anyway though. After reading the info in the link below this I have developed a new appreciation for deconditioning breaks and how they are actually important and should be planned in cycles with Penis Enlargement. Basically you’ll have growth phases then planned deconditioning phases as the tunica and tissues adapt and toughen which resist further enlargement.

I’ve always taking deconditoning phases out of frustration whenever I platueod, from tough tunica syndrome but to have planned deconditoning phases and growth cycles seems pretty damn logical to me. Just like with periodization training with bodybuilders and competitive sports athletes.

Here’s the link to the PDF eBook below. Definitely read this fellas. Some good stuff in here and it’s not that long of a read either.

http://www.chemicalenlargement.com/cpereport/cpe1.pdf
 
Where are you guys getting DHT cream from? Would it be useful to use the DMSO to make it absorb better?

Also finding that my injection site gets a bit lumpy. Is this normal?
 
Hey MikeShlort. No problem bro. I think this eBook definitely hits the nail on the head about purposely taking planned decondition breaks to let the tunica and ligs soften and weaken back to base line levels. The use of DHT cream during your Penis Enlargement training then cycling off of it during the deconditioning break from Penis Enlargement makes sense as well. So androgen receptors in the penis can build back up as well as the tunica and connective tissues weakening back to base line levels before getting blasted through another 1 to 2 month growth cycle. I’m actually thinking about taking a 1 month deconditioning break soon then when I get some igf-des, more tb4 and DHT gel, I’ll blast my penis with these growth producing compounds with a fresh deconditioned tunica and ligs.

If I do end up taking a 1 month deconditioning break I’ll still be doing 2 DMSO/PABA sessions a day and also wearing an ADS for at least 4 hours a day to help retain gains.

Hey hopeing48x8. Don’t know if this is safe but right now I’ve been coating my nut sack with Vaseline then I apply the DMSO/PABA on my dick. So far I haven’t had any new burns or irritation on my balls since it looks like the DMSO is unable to penetrate through the Vaseline.

Hey richard johnson. I haven’t even started looking for DHT yet so I’m not sure where to get it. Right now I’m in the process of saving money to get it in a month or so. With DMSO yes. First you’d apply the DHT cream to your shaft then let it sit for 10 to 20 minutes. Afterwards you apply the DMSO on your shaft to carry through any left over DHT that didn’t get absorbed during the initial application.

With injection sites getting lumpy this is do to localized swelling right at the injection site and a small clot or scab forming from the puncture of the needle. It’s best to perform some manual stretches, mainly bundled stretches or jelqing after your erection goes down to rub out any potential clots or scab/scar tissue at the injection site.

November 18, 2012 Sunday

5:40am to 6:00am DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes

6:05am to 6:25am 20 minutes of bundled stretches

4:35pm injected 11mcgs of Pge1 into right chamber. Put cockring on afterwards to trap chems in the CCs until erectile response took place

4:45pm Took cockring off opening up the flood gates

4:45pm to 6:20pm 80% to 95% erection while edging sporadically through out

6:20pm to 7:30pm 75% down to 60% erection put jerked my self back to 85 to 95% erection while edging. After edging erection dropped to 60% again.

7:30pm to 7:42pm 1 twelve minute clamping set. Very painful POST PGE1 erection

Total PGE1 erection time 2 hours and 50 minutes
Total erection time with clamping set included 3 hours and 2 minutes

7:44pm to 8:14pm DMSO/PABA treatment for 30 minutes

8:45pm to 9:05pm 20 minutes of bundled stretches

11:05pm to 11:20pm 15 minutes of wet jelqs


Ok fellas. I bought some 30 gauge syringes and injected with one. I still had to push the syringe hard to penetrate through the tunica into the CCs which was painful. I’m thinking about going even thinner and trying a 31 gauge syringe.

My dick is pretty sore from all Penis Enlargement work I’ve been inflicting on it. This morning I measured my morning wood and stats still remain at npbel 9.5 x 6.4 midgirth. I’m definitely looking forward to getting my hands on some IGF-DES and DHT cream to add to my program.
 
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hopeing48x8;518247 said:
Kingsnake what oil did you end up useing to keep the DMSO off your sack?

I've been using castor oil for the last few weeks and it works great. The first few applications I ever did irritated the hell out of my nuts and they shed their skin like a snake. Not too painful but annoying as hell. I was doing too much too soon. 40mins starting off. I've dialed it back to 20-30 mins and with the castor oil no problems. I read on a post( might be further back in this thread) any natural oil, so olive oil or similar should be fine.

Hey King, with the de-conditioning breaks, are you talking like 2 months of Penis Enlargement then 1 month off or more like 6 on 1 off? I've just had a forced month off due to an operation and I think it has been really helpful. I've been using DMSO/PABA but no stretches or such. Getting back into it now, so I think you may be on to something good with that.
 
I read that cylcing the DHT gel liek 6 weeks on, 6-12 weeks off is a good idea. Didn't read the PDF on chemical Penis Enlargement you had up yet so I don't know what they recommend but anything with testosterone or GH production I would not want to use for more than 6 weeks at a time
 
regtam25;518508 said:
Anyone know about ghrp-6 and if it can be used in chempe

Ghrp-6 is a is releaser it effects the pituitary gland to release gh 30 min after injection.
 
Where do you put in the DHT get? Is it applied on the dick only or on the glans too and the base?
 
MartinGlad;519260 said:
Where do you put in the DHT get? Is it applied on the dick only or on the glans too and the base?

I would put it everywhere, including the testicles. Its testosterone so it would make sense to apply it to the testicles. Might have to be careful how thick you put it on - I'mnot sure if it burns or irritates? Also, only go for 4-6 weeks max with that shit. Then go off for at least 6 weeks. Like any supplement that fucks with your hormones.
 
bigdex28;520356 said:
Don't put it on the testicles, it will shut them down harder.

What do you mean?
 
^ I think he means your body will stop producing natural testosterone quicker if you apply the DHT directly to your balls. I've read that your body will stop producing it;s own nature testosterone if oyu use GH or DHT prolonged anyways, so I guess directly applying it to the source would shut it down quicker
 
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