kingsnake;532673 said:Hey Ramrod360. Right now I just hang for 1 hour straight with the vac hanger since Im only hanging 5 pounds right now. Once the weights start getting heavie like 10 pounds and up, then I’ll start breaking it up to avoid blisters.
With vitamin E, powdered acetyl-carnitine, arginine , the purpose is for them to help prevent and reverse tunica scarring and soften the tunica. The arginine is to increase nitrix oxide which will in return increase blood flow to the penile organ.
Hey thebrightestday. Supplements like tribulus won’t help that much but it’s better then nothing. If you’re trying to go the route of testosterone to help with penis size then DHT gel is your best bet since DHT is the direct hormone that’s responsible for the sexual functions of the penis including size. Right now only Andractim is open to the public to buy from what I know. There are some folks out there that make 10% DHT gel though.
Hey Falcon88. My cocktail consist of 2 injections a day. The first injection in the morning is 20 to 60 mcgs of MGF, 100 mcgs of tb-500, and 50 mcgs of sterile water all back loaded into the same syringe for injection.
My second injection cocktail in the evening is 20 to 40 mcgs of igf-des, 100 mcgs of tb-500, 10 to 20 mcgs of PGE1 and 40 to 50 mcgs of sterile water.
With vegf Im actually doing more research on it to see if it’s safe to use based on my skype chat consultation with Ronielle.
With IGF yes it needs to be cycled but if you injected igf-des with it’s shorter half life and put a cock ring on as the peptide does it’s thing, systematic down regulation won’t happen for a long time. IGF-LR3 will cause down regulation a lot sooner then IGF-DES.
Hey mike65. I haven’t bought the vac pump. Just the vac u grip by itself has served me good with hanging at my heaviest 7 pounds. For hanging 10 pounds and up the air pump will be need to increase pressure thus creating a stronger grip.
Hey xsteedx. I take regular choline with my supplements but Im not sure about it’s use if applied topically to the penis. I’ll have to research it before getting back with you bro.
Ok guys. My Andracam aka 2.5% DHT gel arrived on Sunday. I've been using it ever since. I've been applying it to my penis twice a day with my DMSO/PABA treatments. I apply 4 drops on the shaft then rub it in and let it sit for 10 minutes. Afterwards I apply my dmso/paba treatement. The dmso drags and remaining DHT gel left on my skin straight through into the penis, while the paba stops any potential scarring from injections.
So far I don't feel any different. Nothing to report with the use of DHT gel but it's too soon to tell since I only started Sunday. Still hitting my Penis Enlargement training hard and heavy. Will be making a few changes to my routine though. I'll explain tomorrow.
kingsnake;532673 said:Hey Ramrod360. Right now I just hang for 1 hour straight with the vac hanger since Im only hanging 5 pounds right now. Once the weights start getting heavie like 10 pounds and up, then I’ll start breaking it up to avoid blisters.
With vitamin E, powdered acetyl-carnitine, arginine , the purpose is for them to help prevent and reverse tunica scarring and soften the tunica. The arginine is to increase nitrix oxide which will in return increase blood flow to the penile organ.
Thanks for the info Snake.
What is the ratio you mix with the dmso for the vitamin E, powdered acetyl-carnitine, arginine? Do you just do it similar to the Paba, a bit at a time until saturated? Very keen to see how you go with the DHT gel, judging from the comments Ronielle made.
Andractim is a transdermal DHT preparation. However, IMO, there's a few problems with it:
It is too stong. You'll notice that it comes in 2.5% only. Compare this with the strength of T preparations, and then notice that desired serum DHT levels are considerably lower than T levels. If you use a 1% gel to achieve a level of ~700 ng/dL, why would you use a 2.5% gel to achieve a level of ~70ng/dL?
The preparation is hydroalcoholic; if you look at studies where its pharmacokinetics are discussed, you'll see that you absorb it quite rapidly.
A strong preparation that is quickly absorbed is doubly bad for achieving stable serum levels. With a sharp peak and trough, you stand a good chance at either getting no effect, or causing HPT suppression. (Yes, transdermal DHT can cause suppression)
Is it any wonder that this drug is not widely used? I've read about men who try to use it for gynecomastia (as directed by a clinic in Cyprus that pedals this stuff through a website), and end up completely suppressing their HPT. In the medical literature, the only thing I've seen it used for is scrotal application in newborns with ambiguous genitalia. As far as the clinic in Cyprus goes: you'll notice that they require you buy multiple tubes the first time (a purchase that is quite a lot of money). Somehow, I don't think that they are relying on repeat customers... Worse yet, these guys are actually marketing the product to women as a libido booster. How's that for medical ethics? Bearded ladies anyone?
kingsnake;533011 said:Here’s a direct quote in the patent on one of the test subjects called EXAMPLE 1.
EXAMPLE 1
“[0080]A male patient, age 41, was treated with intracavernosal injections of a vasodilator, prostaglandin E1, on a regular basis (approximately four to five times per week) over an 18 month treatment period. A sufficient quantity was administered to maintain a prolonged engorgement of an erectile response between 40-75% over a period of several hours, generally 3 to 6 hours. The quantity of medication was adjusted from time to time in accordance with the patient's response, which was monitored at least weekly.
[0081]The size of the patient's fully erect penis increased from 5.8 inches to 8.6 inches in length (about an 48% increase) and 3.7 inches to 5.8 inches in girth (about an 56% increase) over the 18-month treatment period. Following the discontinuation of this treatment, the erect penis length remained stable for two years at over 8 1/2 inches. Treatment was re-institued combining intracavernosal injections 3-4 times per week of a mixture of testosterone (0.5 mg) and vasodilators with low dose oral Potaba (500-1000 mg) 3-4 times per day. After a short treatment period of 2 1/2 months, the patient's erect penis was over 9 inches in length, which means he has gained an additional 0.4-0.5 inches in length (about an 6% increase). The total increase in length was therefore about 3.2 inches (about an 55% increase) in length.”
The patent has 10 more test subjects in it showing there protocol and there results so read the whole article in the link I posted above. Good stuff.
agent7x6;533762 said:Kingsnake, the information you posted from the patent is making me think that injections of androgens (either testosterone, dht, masteron or proviron) directly to the penis may be the way to go, but I'm going to watch your progress with the DHT gel to see if it works.
I seem to recall that you mentioned in another thread of speaking with a doctor regarding chemical Penis Enlargement. Is your regimen doctor prescribed?MikeShlort;533764 said:A certain doctor told me IGF 1 (the quick acting kind) would be a good thing for me to add to the PGE1 penile injections. He also told me to do it systemically as well as locally.
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