The snake man's chemical PE log
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Have you tried adding papaverine and eucommia to your DMSO/PABA treatment?
Appreciate the advice kingsnake
Appreciate the advice kingsnake
KS, so taking clomid after a dht cycle will get my system back to normal? Or will my On my way! Dht production be for ever scarred?
Hey Starks. I’ll post some hanger pics and chemical erection pics tonight bro.
Hey sportsfan4236. I haven’t tried adding papaverine and eucommia to my DMSO/PABA treatments. I know papaverine is a vasodilator but I thought you have to inject that. Can papaverine be carried through the skin into the CCs with DMSO?
Hey houseofr00bees. Im not an expert on DHT cream since I haven’t used it yet but if you stay on DHT for short bouts then you should be fine. I plan on doing it in a 1 month on 1 month off cycle.
Well fellas. Been kinda lazy with posting my daily workouts but all is well. The day before yesterday I upped my pge1 dosage to 20 mcgs for the first time. The intensity and throbbing pain of my erection was rediculous. Got a 3 hour erection out of it.
Been doing 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging in the morning before my chemical erection workouts and 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging after my chemical erection workout. Basically 4 to 6 twenty minute hanging sets a day. Been using 10 pounds before my erection workout and 5 pounds after my erection workout do to post pge1 soreness.
Been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (1 pound weight sleeve) all through out the day except for when Im doing any Penis Enlargement workouts, fucking, using the bathroom and sleeping.
Hey sportsfan4236. I haven’t tried adding papaverine and eucommia to my DMSO/PABA treatments. I know papaverine is a vasodilator but I thought you have to inject that. Can papaverine be carried through the skin into the CCs with DMSO?
Hey houseofr00bees. Im not an expert on DHT cream since I haven’t used it yet but if you stay on DHT for short bouts then you should be fine. I plan on doing it in a 1 month on 1 month off cycle.
Well fellas. Been kinda lazy with posting my daily workouts but all is well. The day before yesterday I upped my pge1 dosage to 20 mcgs for the first time. The intensity and throbbing pain of my erection was rediculous. Got a 3 hour erection out of it.
Been doing 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging in the morning before my chemical erection workouts and 40 minutes to 1 hour of hanging after my chemical erection workout. Basically 4 to 6 twenty minute hanging sets a day. Been using 10 pounds before my erection workout and 5 pounds after my erection workout do to post pge1 soreness.
Been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (1 pound weight sleeve) all through out the day except for when Im doing any Penis Enlargement workouts, fucking, using the bathroom and sleeping.
KS so are you going to come off your 1 month cycle wih novadex or clomid before resuming DHT? Im wondering how many times a day to apply this stuff. Im guessing maybe once in the morning before dmso/paba like you mentioned in previous threads, then do my morning routine and then once again in the evening, same before dmso/paba and do some pumping.. I guess i'll have to experiment.
kingsnake;525122 said:
what does it do to your flaccid?
with the papaverine and dmso ..you need to know the molecular weight and if its below that of dmso
http://www.piercenet.com/browse.cfm?fldID=02010503
http://bpsbioscience.com/phosphodiesterase/inhibitors/papaverine-27304
If its the same weight class then probably No!
papaverine 338
dmso 78
Jaronimo;525223 said:
Goggle gripsystem
8incyclops;525294 said:
lol at the price, that's some retarded cash i'm sure theres away to modify the divosuits. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=grip+system+penile+traction&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegripsystem.com%2F&ei=e93kUPj2K-OJjAKE0ICoDA&usg=AFQjCNHlZ5FydYPp2c5W-FFTgOznh0qrLg&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.cGE
The price is always a major put off for me check out autoextender.com there still pretty expensive tho
Jaronimo;525295 said:
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Hey houseofr00bees. Im not sure if I will take novadex or clomid after cycling off DHT. Im still saving money to buy DHT so it’s not in my protocol just yet.
Hey dickerschwanz. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] sleeve keeps my flaccid penis elongated with 1 pound of tension so any micro cell damage will stay open long enough for new cells to fill in the damage. Constant tension to living tissue causes cell division over time.
Hey Jaronimo. I have a pic of me wearing my weight sleeve in my pic thread along with me using my new hanger and some chemical erection shots.
Here’s a link to it.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ith-pics-and-comparisons)&p=525837#post525837
Hey DLD. The new sleeve system you’re talking about sounds good bro. I’d love to wear 2 to 3 pounds for hours a day. That much more tension for hours a day can lead to faster gains.
Hey fellas. Made some new gains. Stats are now NBPenis EnlargementL 9.5 inches x 6.5 to 6.55 midgirth x 6.65 basegirth. Gained .1 and a half in midgirth and just short of .1 inch base girth. Erect length still remains at nbpel 9.5 inches and bpel 9.8 inches. I think once my hanging weights start to get heavier the septum will start to grow in length which is the barrier holding me back from further length gains. It's crazy because with the new .1 in a half gain in midgirth there is a pronounce bulge on the left side of my dick when fully erect at midshaft. The bulge is not fluid build up neither but instead hard tissue. This bulged is the area of growth that has taken place since I’ve added hanging back into my routine and added igf-des into my chemical cocktail.
When hanging, I do emphasize hitting the left side of my dick a lot more since I have a slight leftwards bend toward the base. Im thinking the constant twisting my dick to the left while hanging straight down has really stretched any possible scar tissue out from the left side causing cell growth thus the left side of my dick at midshaft bulging with new thickness.
The other thing it could be is the IGF-DES that I’ve been injecting in my dick for the past 3 to 4 weeks is finally showing enhanced accumulation of cell division and angiogenesis. But from the looks of the way my left side is growing in girth this suggest that igf-des is extremely site specific depending on where you inject it which is great since when I inject my pge1/igf-des/tb-500 cocktail, I inject it at midshaft, alternating between the left side and right side of my dick for injection sites. Im very excited because the midshaft and the glans of my dick is what I care about the most with girth. My penis is beginning to show signs of taking on the base ball bat shape that makes a penis look top heavy and intimidating.
Also added back jelqing to my routine. Im doing 20 minutes right before my chemical erection workout and 20 minutes after my chemical erection workout is done. IGF-DES actually works better to recently micro damaged tissue because with micro cell damage present, more receptor sites flood the area. We want as many receptor sites as possible in the smooth muscles of the penis for IGF-DES and TB-500 to latch on to. This is the reason why I now jelq 20 minutes before injecting.
My routine for the last couple of weeks has been this. Added jelqing back 6 days ago.
Morning: DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes/ 2 to 3 twenty minute hanging sets with 10 pounds/ Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Evening: 1 twenty minute set of hanging with 10 pounds/ 20 minutes of slow deliberate wet jelqs using the overhand grip and the underhand grip/ Chemical erection workout for 2 to 4 hours/ DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 to 30 minutes toward the end of my painful erection/ 20 minutes of painful post pge1 wet jelqs/ 1 twenty minute painful post pge1 hanging set with 5 pounds.
Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device back on a go about my day. Only take off [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] if Im fucking a chick, using the bathroom, or going to sleep.
Hey dickerschwanz. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] sleeve keeps my flaccid penis elongated with 1 pound of tension so any micro cell damage will stay open long enough for new cells to fill in the damage. Constant tension to living tissue causes cell division over time.
Hey Jaronimo. I have a pic of me wearing my weight sleeve in my pic thread along with me using my new hanger and some chemical erection shots.
Here’s a link to it.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ith-pics-and-comparisons)&p=525837#post525837
Hey DLD. The new sleeve system you’re talking about sounds good bro. I’d love to wear 2 to 3 pounds for hours a day. That much more tension for hours a day can lead to faster gains.
Hey fellas. Made some new gains. Stats are now NBPenis EnlargementL 9.5 inches x 6.5 to 6.55 midgirth x 6.65 basegirth. Gained .1 and a half in midgirth and just short of .1 inch base girth. Erect length still remains at nbpel 9.5 inches and bpel 9.8 inches. I think once my hanging weights start to get heavier the septum will start to grow in length which is the barrier holding me back from further length gains. It's crazy because with the new .1 in a half gain in midgirth there is a pronounce bulge on the left side of my dick when fully erect at midshaft. The bulge is not fluid build up neither but instead hard tissue. This bulged is the area of growth that has taken place since I’ve added hanging back into my routine and added igf-des into my chemical cocktail.
When hanging, I do emphasize hitting the left side of my dick a lot more since I have a slight leftwards bend toward the base. Im thinking the constant twisting my dick to the left while hanging straight down has really stretched any possible scar tissue out from the left side causing cell growth thus the left side of my dick at midshaft bulging with new thickness.
The other thing it could be is the IGF-DES that I’ve been injecting in my dick for the past 3 to 4 weeks is finally showing enhanced accumulation of cell division and angiogenesis. But from the looks of the way my left side is growing in girth this suggest that igf-des is extremely site specific depending on where you inject it which is great since when I inject my pge1/igf-des/tb-500 cocktail, I inject it at midshaft, alternating between the left side and right side of my dick for injection sites. Im very excited because the midshaft and the glans of my dick is what I care about the most with girth. My penis is beginning to show signs of taking on the base ball bat shape that makes a penis look top heavy and intimidating.
Also added back jelqing to my routine. Im doing 20 minutes right before my chemical erection workout and 20 minutes after my chemical erection workout is done. IGF-DES actually works better to recently micro damaged tissue because with micro cell damage present, more receptor sites flood the area. We want as many receptor sites as possible in the smooth muscles of the penis for IGF-DES and TB-500 to latch on to. This is the reason why I now jelq 20 minutes before injecting.
My routine for the last couple of weeks has been this. Added jelqing back 6 days ago.
Morning: DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 minutes/ 2 to 3 twenty minute hanging sets with 10 pounds/ Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] weight sleeve on an go about my day.
Evening: 1 twenty minute set of hanging with 10 pounds/ 20 minutes of slow deliberate wet jelqs using the overhand grip and the underhand grip/ Chemical erection workout for 2 to 4 hours/ DMSO/PABA treatment for 20 to 30 minutes toward the end of my painful erection/ 20 minutes of painful post pge1 wet jelqs/ 1 twenty minute painful post pge1 hanging set with 5 pounds.
Put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device back on a go about my day. Only take off [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] if Im fucking a chick, using the bathroom, or going to sleep.
I bought the economy package. The economy package doesn't come with a weighted sleeve though so i bargened with them and got one for half the price added to the economy package price. When I get paid this Friday I'm going to buy there pump gauge so I can increase vacuum pressure as the weights get heavier and to know how much pressure Im using.
Was thinking about buying the Circle Device but have only read bad reviews on it,wish I could make one from a heaver metal.
Of all the guys I've read after, snake man seems to be the most right on.
However, as was pointed out, he is a mad scientist and I think we are watching the messy
part of the sausage making (great pun) right now.
I'm satisfied chemicals are the way to go. But only as a way to enhance the mechanical [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]
aspects.
I'm also satisfied this can ALL be accomplished with much less to NO pain (unlike what the snake man has been experiencing.)
There might be some pain like you feel when you lift etc but very short term - nothing like 4 hour painful erections or being in so much pain that it actually hinders your ability to enjoy sex.
When that happens, you know you need to make a course correction. That's like getting a Bentley Arnage, but not being able to drive it because the seat adjustment leaves you in constant pain. Sorta defeats the Purpose.
I'm so new and still so overwhelmed by all the fresh information I'm taking in, that I'm gonna just wait til the snake man solves most of these issues.
That he's willing to be a human guinea pig for the rest of us should be respected and appreciated. But I hope, for his sake at least, that he solves the pain issues - stat.
It's almost to painful to read! Esp that part about making sure you buy the right needle gauge so you don't break off the needle in your COCK!
However, as was pointed out, he is a mad scientist and I think we are watching the messy
part of the sausage making (great pun) right now.
I'm satisfied chemicals are the way to go. But only as a way to enhance the mechanical [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words]
aspects.
I'm also satisfied this can ALL be accomplished with much less to NO pain (unlike what the snake man has been experiencing.)
There might be some pain like you feel when you lift etc but very short term - nothing like 4 hour painful erections or being in so much pain that it actually hinders your ability to enjoy sex.
When that happens, you know you need to make a course correction. That's like getting a Bentley Arnage, but not being able to drive it because the seat adjustment leaves you in constant pain. Sorta defeats the Purpose.
I'm so new and still so overwhelmed by all the fresh information I'm taking in, that I'm gonna just wait til the snake man solves most of these issues.
That he's willing to be a human guinea pig for the rest of us should be respected and appreciated. But I hope, for his sake at least, that he solves the pain issues - stat.
It's almost to painful to read! Esp that part about making sure you buy the right needle gauge so you don't break off the needle in your COCK!
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bigdaddy777;527321 said:
Lol your Bently analogy is exactly what I am talking about with the dick not being able to go all the way in thing.
I agree that kingsnake is the most right on. He did what I would tell any newbie to do:
1. Manual stretching until gains are maxed out
2. Hanging (first BTC, then high angles/RSDT fulcrum - in snake's case, he had a low LOT so he starter at high angles. I would still have tried for low angled hanging but he went from 8"NBPenis EnlargementL to 9.5" NBPenis EnlargementL, which is very amazing)
3. Girth work, pumping and chemPenis Enlargement, once the hanging length gains are maximized.
4. Go back to hanging for any additional length gains, which he is doing with his chem Penis Enlargement protocol.
Good work, king.