Hey Sumner. Thanks bro for the response. Man with your excellent gains and success, Im suprised that you don't post much or get involved with the hanging discussions much. Yeah I'm also guessing that your massive midgirth gains are from the result of your hanger producing a massive clamped, jelq effect on your penis with that kind of weight. Im also guessing the length gains you've made so far is all lig gains since you have the hanger attachment so close to the base which pretty much takes away tunica involvement.

Well what kind of hanger are you using? What I'm curious about is with the hanger attached so close to the base while standing up and hanging straight down how do you avoid the skin at the base from not taking up the stress from the weight.

I ask this because that happens to me when I hang downwards with the hanger attached close to the base. When hanging straight down I have to have the hanger attached 2 inches behind the glans for the ligs to get hit without skin stretch taking over. It's only when I tunica hang with the hanger attached toward the base that I don't have to worry about skin stretch taking over.

Hey Sumner. What do you do to avoid skin stretch from taking the load when you hang straight down with the hanger attached at the base? Could you perhaps post some pics of one of your morning hanging workouts. Definitely would like to see your whole set up with your hanger and hanging 60 to 80 pounds.
 
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kingsnake;476881 said:
Hey Sumner. Thanks bro for the response. Man with your excellent gains and success, Im suprised that you don't post much or get involved with the hanging discussions much. Yeah I'm also guessing that your massive midgirth gains are from the result of your hanger producing a massive clamped, jelq effect on your penis with that kind of weight. Im also guessing the length gains you've made so far is all lig gains since you have the hanger attachment so close to the base which pretty much takes away tunica involvement.

Well what kind of hanger are you using? What I'm curious about is with the hanger attached so close to the base while standing up and hanging straight down how do you avoid the skin at the base from not taking up the stress from the weight.

I ask this because that happens to me when I hang downwards with the hanger attached close to the base. When hanging straight down I have to have the hanger attached 2 inches behind the glans for the ligs to get hit without skin stretch taking over. It's only when I tunica hang with the hanger attached toward the base that I don't have to worry about skin stretch taking over.

Hey Sumner. What do you do to avoid skin stretch from taking the load when you hang straight down with the hanger attached at the base? Could you perhaps post some pics of one of your morning hanging workouts. Definitely would like to see your whole set up with your hanger and hanging 60 to 80 pounds.
hey dude-i definitely got some skin stretch.but that's a good thing. the bibhanger guy wrote all about it on his forum.it gives you more overall bulk and room to get longer.i don't have excessive loose skin at all though.what some people call turkey neck.i don't post much because i prefer to just quietly do my thing.i only chimed in on the extreme thing because so many people attacked him and called him a liar.which is the same as calling me a liar,and dash and others who hang heavy.just got annoyed, i guess.not like he needed me to defend him.i wasn't looking to convert people to heavy hanging at all.just throwing out a little support.that's why i don't post much and have not put up any pictures.i'm not looking for approval or attention.just stating what worked for me.plus-no offense to anyone who puts up pictures,but iv'e been hitting the pe hard all this time to build a new and improved johnson to share with any girls i'm lucky enough to hook up with.not guys.not really looking to be a pe role model or be naked on the internet.again-no offense to guys who do post pictures.just not my thing.like i said i only posted my routine in support of extreme.apparently he bailed on this forum because of all the negative people who called him a fraud without even trying heavy hanging.dash was cool to him though .all he said was that the guy had a massive unit.nothing negative .and dash's thread was what got me into hardcore hanging. he is much more of an expert than me,and has gained more.he's the guy you should be talking to.good luck with your pe. later
 
Hey Sumner. Ok thanks for the response. Hopefully I'm not annoying you but I have one more question and I'll leave you alone for good if you want. My last question is what kind of hanger are you using to hang 80 pounds. I remember you stating earlier that you have to tighten down the hose clamp on your hanger, so I'm assuming it's homemade. If you can share the mechanism behind your hanger with me I'd appreciate it and I'll stop bothering you after this. Thanks in advance man.
 
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hey kingsnake-you're not annoying me at all.pretty consistently polite actually.my hanger is made from a strap used to secure cargo.like a washer in the back of a delivery truck.it has a breaking strength of something over a thousand pounds.it's pretty low tech.one long piece about 5 feet long and a shorter piece [ten inches] stitched into the top with monofilament.picture the letter T.i wrap up like you would if using a bibhanger and wrap the two straps of the top of the T around the shaft and secure it with a piece of scotch tape .then i slip the hose clamp over the bottom of the strap and work it up and over the shaft and tighten it down over the top two straps [top of the T]which are taped into place about 1 inch past mid-shaft towards the base.the bottom of the strap is fished through the center holes in the barbell plates and tied with two double overhand knots.very basic and simple.the only moving part is the hose clamp.the strap can be picked up at the home depot.it's yellow and about 2 inches wide .thin but very strong.it comes with attached hardware for securing cargo.i used heavy duty shears to cut all that off.not sure what king of hanger you use,but i know dld has used up to 70 # with a bib and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words].and bib has used 60# while testing his hanger.two good options right there.also look up dustpan's muzzlehanger.he hit 96# at one time.not sure what he's using now. later
 
Hey sumner. Cool beans bro. Thanks for the response man. Your hanger sounds good and your hanging approach definitely appeals to me. I've been lig hanging with 15 pounds with my python hanger but what I've done now is add another riser clamp to my python hanger which has increased it's durability and heavy dutyness for a comfortable imbrace of the shaft.

I'm now hanging with 20 pounds straight down while standing up for 2 twenty minute sets a day. With my snake hanger I'm tunica fulcrum hanging with 20 pounds as well for two sets a day. Going to slowly work my way up to some extreme weights over time. So for me Im doing 4 sets a day. Two in the morning and two in the evening of each. Gonna hit nbpel 10 inches if it kills me. LOL.

Im pretty confident that with two riser clamps attached the python hanger can handle loads up to 50 to 60 pounds and if a third riser clamp is added, 100 pounds and up can be reached while still spreading equal force to the enitire shaft.

Hey sumner. Keep me posted bro with your progress and thanks again for sharing your knowledge and hanging experiance with me.
 
I have a question for any of you who hang heavy weight. If you hang in the range of 50 - 55 pounds, are you relegated to hanging in this weight range to experience any benefits? Or put another way, once you arrive at this range, is it a waste of time to hang in the lower ranges (e.g., 20 - 25 pounds)?
 
sdaddy;478196 said:
I have a question for any of you who hang heavy weight. If you hang in the range of 50 - 55 pounds, are you relegated to hanging in this weight range to experience any benefits? Or put another way, once you arrive at this range, is it a waste of time to hang in the lower ranges (e.g., 20 - 25 pounds)?

I always used the Pyramid Sets theory when hanging and this method is built on progressively heavier or lighter weights. This was applicable for me into the 60 pound range so I assume it would work throughout. Dashdeming could also greatly assist you here so you should message him.
 
It is really all in the thread. No trying to be an ass but there is a wealth of information that you are obviously overlooking and could not possibly be recreated in just a few lines. Do yourself a big favor and read every word of this thread.
 
Dashdeming;481090 said:
It is really all in the thread. No trying to be an ass but there is a wealth of information that you are obviously overlooking and could not possibly be recreated in just a few lines. Do yourself a big favor and read every word of this thread.

:)
 
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- AG
 
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my thing is this....after i hang with 20-25 pounds i like the feeling of the stretchy pain when im hanging but when i take off my homemade hanger....i feel a slight burn nothing major but nothing compared to the intense feeling of when im stretching...
 
Ironwill1984;499275 said:
Dash what do you think about bundled hanging?


I think all stretches are more intense when Bundled, I do not think hanging would be any different. Lets see what Dash has to say.
 
doublelongdaddy;499281 said:
I think all stretches are more intense when Bundled, I do not think hanging would be any different. Lets see what Dash has to say.

True, it is very intense when I hang bundled. I notice when hanging bundled there is an immediate feeling of intensity in the tunica hanging SU or "straight up".
 
Ironwill1984;499288 said:
True, it is very intense when I hang bundled. I notice when hanging bundled there is an immediate feeling of intensity in the tunica hanging SU or "straight up".


Bundles are super effective with Tunica break down, the twist puts a lot of stress on it. Bundles straight up would be a Tunica Blaster!
 
doublelongdaddy;499290 said:
Bundles are super effective with Tunica break down, the twist puts a lot of stress on it. Bundles straight up would be a Tunica Blaster!

Yes DLD, from me doing Penis Enlargement over 10 years my tunica is something I have only worked on under a year, but it's mainly because I have done a lot of BTC hanging, stretching, and other routines.

My tunica is very tough tissue and I am trying to gather the most intense routine I can create to make my tunica deform. I believe a few sets of hanging SU mixed with bundled tunica hanging may be what I need. The bundled hanging as I said earlier is truly intense.
 
Hey ironwill1984. Since you have 10 years of Penis Enlargement under your belt, your tunica is probrabley as tough as steel. Just to help with futher progress you may want to soften things up a bit by using a dmso solvent and mixing it with a tunica softening chemical like paba. Apply this topically twice a day. This will make your tunica soft and pliable, thus make it easier to stretch and manipulate your tunica for better gains in combination with bundled stretching and bundled hanging.

Also take evening primrose oil and borage oil. These to suppliments convert to pge1 in the body which makes soft tissue more elastic. Including the penis.
 
kingsnake;499444 said:
Hey ironwill1984. Since you have 10 years of Penis Enlargement under your belt, your tunica is probrabley as tough as steel. Just to help with futher progress you may want to soften things up a bit by using a dmso solvent and mixing it with a tunica softening chemical like paba. Apply this topically twice a day. This will make your tunica soft and pliable, thus make it easier to stretch and manipulate your tunica for better gains in combination with bundled stretching and bundled hanging.

Also take evening primrose oil and borage oil. These to suppliments convert to pge1 in the body which makes soft tissue more elastic. Including the penis.

Thanks a lot! I appreciate the information and I'll research those supplements. Yes, doing the bundled hanging SU I am doing the 20 minute sessions, but my tunica must be very strong.

Kingsnake have these supplements brought you any better gains? Are they safe?
 
Also, I believe I may actually have to use very heavy weight now when doing my hanging sessions in order to encourage more growth.

Kingsnake are these products applied topically to the unit? Or are they to be taken in a pill form?

The hanging sessions I do now which I have limited to three are all done in SU, but I sweat through each set trying to further deform the tunica. I am very wary of using any softening chemicals on my unit as I do now know any long term effects they could potentially cause, but I am very interested, so I am definatly going to research this information you have provided me with, thanks bro.
 
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Hey ironwill84. Yeah the two products to try is dmso and powdered paba. DMSO solution is a transdermal chemical that will go through the skin into the soft tissues of the penis. dmso by itself is a powerful anti inflamatory and will soften the tunica up by itself. With paba this is used by most doctors on patients with peyronies disease. Paba helps to break up scar tissue and combats tissue fibrosis by delivering more oxygen to the tissues then normal. Since dmso is a transdermal solvent you can mix powdered paba with dmso and apply that to your penis and let it soak in for 20 to 30 mins per application. This will help to soften up those tissues back to deconditioning levels to make your hanging sessions more productive. To get more research read up on dmso and paba.
 
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kingsnake;503103 said:
Hey ironwill84. Yeah the two products to try is dmso and powdered paba. DMSO solution is a transdermal chemical that will go through the skin into the soft tissues of the penis. dmso by itself is a powerful anti inflamatory and will soften the tunica up by itself. With paba this is used by most doctors on patients with peyronies disease. Paba helps to break up scar tissue and combats tissue fibrosis by delivering more oxygen to the tissues then normal. Since dmso is a transdermal solvent you can mix powdered paba with dmso and apply that to your penis and let it soak in for 20 to 30 mins per application. This will help to soften up those tissues back to deconditioning levels to make your hanging sessions more productive. To get more research read up on dmso and paba.


Kingsnake have you gained using the Paba in a powdered form mixed with DMSO?

Very good information bro thanks
 
Ironwill1984;505784 said:
Kingsnake have you gained using the Paba in a powdered form mixed with DMSO?

Very good information bro thanks


We need a solid list of all these supplements, in what doses and how often. My head spins a bit when I see all of this supplementation and really wish it could all be possible in one formula.
 
I agree with this. A working detailed list would be extremely useful. I have DMSO but I just don't have a handle on what to mix and how often and when to apply during the daily Penis Enlargement process.

doublelongdaddy;505812 said:
We need a solid list of all these supplements, in what doses and how often. My head spins a bit when I see all of this supplementation and really wish it could all be possible in one formula.
 
Dashdeming;505835 said:
I agree with this. A working detailed list would be extremely useful. I have DMSO but I just don't have a handle on what to mix and how often and when to apply during the daily Penis Enlargement process.


definitely, I think it would also help men understand better. I think, with all the information flying around with chemical Penis Enlargement and other progressive forms requiring heavy supplement intake, a list of what the supplement is, what it is for, what may conflict with it, side effects, etc. We might even want to start a forum strictly for supplements.
 
Hell yes! A dedicated forum would be great. Maybe we could come up with a template of required information so that we get a high quality product.

doublelongdaddy;505842 said:
definitely, I think it would also help men understand better. I think, with all the information flying around with chemical Penis Enlargement and other progressive forms requiring heavy supplement intake, a list of what the supplement is, what it is for, what may conflict with it, side effects, etc. We might even want to start a forum strictly for supplements.
 
Dashdeming;505880 said:
Hell yes! A dedicated forum would be great. Maybe we could come up with a template of required information so that we get a high quality product.


I am on this! I have a lot of help coming my way by two different sources over the next few weeks and I hope to see a lot of stuff get snapped into order. Supplements were number one in the list. I am really looking forward to these changes.
 
Hey Ironwill1984. With dmso you have to order it off the web. You can buy 8 oz glass bottles of dmso on a website called supplement warehouse.com. With paba, make sure to buy the powdered paba. You can buy a big ass pack of powdered paba from purebulk.com.

Hey Dash and DLD. I think creating a seperate forum for chemical pe and supplements is a good idea. If you guys are interested Im actually going to be posting detailed pics with writen information on how to use dmso and how to mix it correctley with powdered PABA. I was going to post this info with pics tonight in my picture progress thread but if yall think I should post it else where on the forum let me know.
 
Kingsnake I would really you to teach me how to mix and use DMSO+Paba correctly. Im a beginner have been P-E for about 2.5 weeks and Im on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] right now.
 
MartinGlad;506017 said:
Kingsnake I would really you to teach me how to mix and use DMSO+Paba correctly. Im a beginner have been P-E for about 2.5 weeks and Im on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] right now.


I just wish someone would show me how to mix a vodka sour! Jeezzze!
 
DLD have you ever tried DMSO+Paba? Or something like that?

How did that worked for you or have you never added anything to your Penis Enlargement-routines.
 
kingsnake;506002 said:
Hey Ironwill1984. With dmso you have to order it off the web. You can buy 8 oz glass bottles of dmso on a website called supplement warehouse.com. With paba, make sure to buy the powdered paba. You can buy a big ass pack of powdered paba from purebulk.com.

Hey Dash and DLD. I think creating a seperate forum for chemical pe and supplements is a good idea. If you guys are interested Im actually going to be posting detailed pics with writen information on how to use dmso and how to mix it correctley with powdered PABA. I was going to post this info with pics tonight in my picture progress thread but if yall think I should post it else where on the forum let me know.

I have powdered Paba in 500mg capsules that I will mix with the DMSO.

Thanks for the info Kingsnake
 
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MartinGlad;506035 said:
DLD have you ever tried DMSO+Paba? Or something like that?

How did that worked for you or have you never added anything to your Penis Enlargement-routines.


Not yet, I am becoming more and more educated as you guys relate to each other. I am on the side line studying, listening and learning.
 
WOOT!

Just got done reading all 23 pages! Bravo guys!! Great read! I would say the most interesting thread I've come a crossed. Keep pushing the limits gentlemen. I can't begin to express my appreciation for the information you all have provided here.

THANK YOU!
 
byrdy8x6;508263 said:
WOOT!

Just got done reading all 23 pages! Bravo guys!! Great read! I would say the most interesting thread I've come a crossed. Keep pushing the limits gentlemen. I can't begin to express my appreciation for the information you all have provided here.

THANK YOU!

Wow, that is like reading War and Peace!
 
DashDeming Im a current newbie on P-E and would want to increase the lenght, first.

What would you recommend me to jump into after Im done with 3 months [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]? Gonna stay on it until I gain 2 inches.

Would it be [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Phase-2, Some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetic[/words] extending or just hanging like this threat is about. What would you do if you would have been in my situation?
 
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