jordey;625298 said:
why work on solely length? why not both length and girth at the same time?

I have a few different reasons:

1. Time. I already spend two hours a day working on my length, and although I am willing to continue PE for years and years to come, I can't dedicate much more time on a daily basis to it. Girth is also a lot more active than length, so it is harder for me to squeeze in.

2. I am more interested in getting a longer penis rather than a thicker one. Yes, girth is important and maybe even more useful sexually, but I just visually care more about length.

3. Sex positions. There are just some sex positions that one cannot do if you aren't a certain length.
 
boohoohoo;625370 said:
I have a few different reasons:

1. Time. I already spend two hours a day working on my length, and although I am willing to continue PE for years and years to come, I can't dedicate much more time on a daily basis to it. Girth is also a lot more active than length, so it is harder for me to squeeze in.

2. I am more interested in getting a longer penis rather than a thicker one. Yes, girth is important and maybe even more useful sexually, but I just visually care more about length.

3. Sex positions. There are just some sex positions that one cannot do if you aren't a certain length.

hmm. for me anyway, my regular girth routine is shorter than my length routine. i dont do a particularly intense length routine, yet it takes me 40 minutes. if i was gonna focus more on length it would probably take me an hour plus a day, yet my girth normal girth routine takes only 20-30 minutes (i sometimes do more but only because i enjoy it). the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] atleast is fairly time efficient as you use it while you have your daily shower, two birds one stone and all. as dld has mentioned, girth and length work can compliment eachother, so imo its worth implementing a bit to cover all bases. i reckon even just 10-15 minutes of girth work a day will make a difference.

as for visuals, is this purely how you would like it to look? or also visuals in the perspective of women aswell? if its only for yourself and you would like alot of length and not that much girth, then fair enough i completely understand. if its also for women aswell though, you may want to consider girth more as many women will say a girthy penis with decent length rather than a really long penis with not much girth is much more visually imposing and appealing.

and the sex positions. what positions do you need alot of length for? id be interested to know. i was under the impression that 7 inches non bp is fine for pretty much every position
 
jordey;625440 said:
as for visuals, is this purely how you would like it to look? or also visuals in the perspective of women aswell? if its only for yourself and you would like alot of length and not that much girth, then fair enough i completely understand. if its also for women aswell though, you may want to consider girth more as many women will say a girthy penis with decent length rather than a really long penis with not much girth is much more visually imposing and appealing.

and the sex positions. what positions do you need alot of length for? id be interested to know. i was under the impression that 7 inches non bp is fine for pretty much every position

I am not saying I will not work on girth at all, in fact I will switch to a routine that is primarily girth based once I get far enough with my length goals. Also, I do agree that most women prefer girth more so than length. I am currently about 5.5 inches in girth, so while I am by no means very thick, I also am not thin.

While I also do agree that a thick dick is visually very appealing, I personally care about being long more than I care about being thick, at least as of now.

As far as sex positions go, there are several positions that require a great deal of length or else the more length one has the better the position is. I, just talking about my individual preferences, prefer women with big round butts. This makes it difficult to do many positions, such as when the girl is laying flat on her stomach and I am on top. I was 7 BPEL the last time I did that, and even though the girl that I was with was thin and had a small butt I didn't have too much length to go in and out with. I basically was moving just an inch or at most two or else I would fall out. Now imagine that with a girl that has a Kim Kardashian type ass (which I would die for).

There is also the position of both of you spooning, it is hard to reach far enough to be able to stroke well if your dick isn't particularly long, and especially with a thicker girl or one with a big butt. Plus, although really any size penis can do cowgirl or reverse cowgirl, a shorter penis will be more likely to fall out if the girl starts really getting into it.

So again, although I think girth is incredibly important and probably more important to women than length is, I still want to focus on length first.
 
boohoohoo;625461 said:
I am not saying I will not work on girth at all, in fact I will switch to a routine that is primarily girth based once I get far enough with my length goals. Also, I do agree that most women prefer girth more so than length. I am currently about 5.5 inches in girth, so while I am by no means very thick, I also am not thin.

While I also do agree that a thick dick is visually very appealing, I personally care about being long more than I care about being thick, at least as of now.

As far as sex positions go, there are several positions that require a great deal of length or else the more length one has the better the position is. I, just talking about my individual preferences, prefer women with big round butts. This makes it difficult to do many positions, such as when the girl is laying flat on her stomach and I am on top. I was 7 BPEL the last time I did that, and even though the girl that I was with was thin and had a small butt I didn't have too much length to go in and out with. I basically was moving just an inch or at most two or else I would fall out. Now imagine that with a girl that has a Kim Kardashian type ass (which I would die for).

There is also the position of both of you spooning, it is hard to reach far enough to be able to stroke well if your dick isn't particularly long, and especially with a thicker girl or one with a big butt. Plus, although really any size penis can do cowgirl or reverse cowgirl, a shorter penis will be more likely to fall out if the girl starts really getting into it.

So again, although I think girth is incredibly important and probably more important to women than length is, I still want to focus on length first.

thats fair enough, some good points. i personally like petite women so dont really have the issues you will face (i think kim k's arse is gross, so we have very different tastes). for wanting a long stroke, this is gonna really depend on your non bone pressed length. i know you mentioned in your progress thread that you have a fair amount of fat pad, which may have been why you could only do 1-2 inch strokes? just a thought. if stroke length is very important to you it may be worth putting alot of focus on fat pad reduction aswell.
 
update:

12/12/14 - normal length routine, normal [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] routine. again did a little clamping afterwards, but wasnt feeling great, not getting expanded enough.

today should be good for p.e. ill be doing my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] routine in the bath, which always leads to better workouts. i wont have time to do my normal length routine, so will do half of it
 
jordey;625512 said:
(i think kim k's arse is gross, so we have very different tastes).

I was not sure if I liked it or not until my Son said she got ass implants, that is a deal breaker for me...yuck.
 
jordey;625512 said:
thats fair enough, some good points. i personally like petite women so dont really have the issues you will face (i think kim k's arse is gross, so we have very different tastes). for wanting a long stroke, this is gonna really depend on your non bone pressed length. i know you mentioned in your progress thread that you have a fair amount of fat pad, which may have been why you could only do 1-2 inch strokes? just a thought. if stroke length is very important to you it may be worth putting alot of focus on fat pad reduction aswell.

At the time I was with the chick that I could only do 1-2 inch strokes my fat pad was much smaller than it is now, so i was probably around 6.5 inches NBPEL and she was a thin girl with a smaller ass.

The funny thing is I enjoy women of all shapes except for the extremes of too fat or too thin, it is all just about my mood and how that individual girl looks. I am not black so I probably shouldn't like Kim K as much as I do, but she is one of the hottest women I have ever seen in my life : ), sorry, but it just sucks if you don't think she looks good. To each their own though.
 
boohoohoo;625651 said:
At the time I was with the chick that I could only do 1-2 inch strokes my fat pad was much smaller than it is now, so i was probably around 6.5 inches NBPEL and she was a thin girl with a smaller ass.

The funny thing is I enjoy women of all shapes except for the extremes of too fat or too thin, it is all just about my mood and how that individual girl looks. I am not black so I probably shouldn't like Kim K as much as I do, but she is one of the hottest women I have ever seen in my life : ), sorry, but it just sucks if you don't think she looks good. To each their own though.

i just think her body looks weird... its all out of proportion. each ass cheek is bigger than her head, and just looks like its made out of plastic, her body in general seems to be shaped by surgery rather than the natural look (e.g. going to the gym). shes got weirdly skinny arms and then thighs like a donkey, with fake boobs and then a real thin waist. just doesnt look right, its like body parts of random women stuck on one body. i dont think her face is anything special either, i dunno she just doesnt do it for me! but yeah as you said to each their own. someone like elisha cuthbert or jessica alba does it for me..
 
update:

13/12/14 - was maent to get a good session in with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words], but i had no hot water >:( so i ended up having a shit workout and an all round bad time. oh well, ill go for a better one today


its been over a week since i started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], and im getting the hang of it. really liking it now, and getting some good expansion and more consistency with it. compared to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words], ive noticed much less fluid retention, aswell as less red dots which is interesting. i dont get as far in the tube compared to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]. i think this may be because i filled the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] up in girth alot better, so there may have been more of a pulling action, whereas the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] will probably expand my girth more, but i'll have to see
 
jordey;625876 said:
update:

13/12/14 - was maent to get a good session in with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words], but i had no hot water >:( so i ended up having a shit workout and an all round bad time. oh well, ill go for a better one today

Microwave a jug of water + mix in some cold water after heating to balance temperature? Don't know your living situation/privacy & whether it would look suspicious though?
 
VoorheesXIII;625962 said:
Microwave a jug of water + mix in some cold water after heating to balance temperature? Don't know your living situation/privacy & whether it would look suspicious though?

no that would be too suspicious, plus i couldnt have a shower anyway and ran out of time trying to get the boiler working. oh well!
 
14/12/14 - normal length routine, normal [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] routine. would of liked to of gotten more time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words].

15/12/14 - off day, was very busy


been a few inconsistent days but it should be fine now. ill be going with no breaks till thursday or friday, then measure a day after.
 
jordey;626254 said:
been a few inconsistent days but it should be fine now. ill be going with no breaks till thursday or friday, then measure a day after.

As long as you recognize this and get back on track you will be just fine. For me, if too many inconsistent days pile up it becomes harder and harder to return to the goal routine. I am happy you are getting back on track, you have done way to much work to slack now.
 
boohoohoo;626301 said:
Nice, excited to see what your measurements are!

yeah me too! small change of plan, gonna go till saturday, measure on sunday. this will be 16 days since i started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], of which theres been 3 off days i think. im not expecting much given the short time period, just something, to see if the routine is still working after the few weeks off.

doublelongdaddy;626410 said:
As long as you recognize this and get back on track you will be just fine. For me, if too many inconsistent days pile up it becomes harder and harder to return to the goal routine. I am happy you are getting back on track, you have done way to much work to slack now.

yeah just some stuff came up and i was out of the house, i still got a little bit of work in just not my normal routine. im still being consistent so its all good!

update: 16/12/14 - normal routine, plus a little clamping after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words]

17/12/14 - normal routine


gonna try and get a nice long [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] session in tonight, then just normal ones tomorrow and saturday
 
jordey;626548 said:
yeah me too! small change of plan, gonna go till saturday, measure on sunday. this will be 16 days since i started using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], of which theres been 3 off days i think. im not expecting much given the short time period, just something, to see if the routine is still working after the few weeks off.

Hopefully you will see some quick changes. I look forward to Sunday and your good news.
 
update: measured today and im now 7.3nbp (7.85 bp) x 5.3 mseg. this is a gain of 0.1 x 0.1 in 2 weeks.

i was drinking last night so i feel this may have affected my eq a little, but its still a gain. was hoping for a little more in the way of girth but oh well. im hoping to gain more than this over the next two weeks. and should hopefully get to my own month [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] target. im very close to 8 inches bone pressed which is exciting!
 
boohoohoo;626301 said:
Nice, excited to see what your measurements are!

VoorheesXIII;627270 said:
That's awesome dude! 😀 that 8 inches is getting closer by the day!

thanks! if it keeps going well it should be less than a month before i get to 8 inches bone pressed, then i'll be focusing on getting to 8 inches non bone pressed :)


update:

20/12/14 - didnt have time to do any length work, just got in a bit of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] work.

22/12/14 - off day


im just gonna carry on as ive been doing, if it aint broke dont fix it and all. only thing im gonna do is make sure i dont miss as many days. ive taken 3 or 4 days off in the last 2 and a bit weeks, i want to cut that down to once a week if possible. gains are coming along though. i also get good temp expansion from my girth work which lasts for hours with no fluid retention, giving me around a 5.6 inch temp girth
 
jordey;627172 said:
update: measured today and im now 7.3nbp (7.85 bp) x 5.3 mseg. this is a gain of 0.1 x 0.1 in 2 weeks.

i was drinking last night so i feel this may have affected my eq a little, but its still a gain. was hoping for a little more in the way of girth but oh well. im hoping to gain more than this over the next two weeks. and should hopefully get to my own month [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] target. im very close to 8 inches bone pressed which is exciting!

Congratulations! So close to the big 8! Very proud of you my Brother, keep inspiring us!
 
jordey;627172 said:
update: measured today and im now 7.3nbp (7.85 bp) x 5.3 mseg. this is a gain of 0.1 x 0.1 in 2 weeks.

i was drinking last night so i feel this may have affected my eq a little, but its still a gain. was hoping for a little more in the way of girth but oh well. im hoping to gain more than this over the next two weeks. and should hopefully get to my own month [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] target. im very close to 8 inches bone pressed which is exciting!

Congrats man, .1 gained in both girth and length in 2 weeks is nothing to be made about, that is a pretty quick gain. It is also great to see you have such a limited fat pad. My question though is are you able to reduce your fat pad any more then it already is or are you pretty cut or thin as it is? I have a huge fat pad personally so I have begun to wonder how low I can eventually get mine.
 
boohoohoo;627503 said:
Congrats man, .1 gained in both girth and length in 2 weeks is nothing to be made about, that is a pretty quick gain. It is also great to see you have such a limited fat pad. My question though is are you able to reduce your fat pad any more then it already is or are you pretty cut or thin as it is? I have a huge fat pad personally so I have begun to wonder how low I can eventually get mine.

Fat pad reduces with major fat loss. For me it took a very healthy diet and lots of aerobic activity. It was hard to lose it but seeing all that penis appear as the fat disappeared was unreal, it was the biggest gain I made without gaining:)
 
boohoohoo;627503 said:
Congrats man, .1 gained in both girth and length in 2 weeks is nothing to be made about, that is a pretty quick gain. It is also great to see you have such a limited fat pad. My question though is are you able to reduce your fat pad any more then it already is or are you pretty cut or thin as it is? I have a huge fat pad personally so I have begun to wonder how low I can eventually get mine.

yeah i wasnt mad about it, quite happy actually, obviously we always want to gain more quicker though!

my fat pad is around 0.6 inch. i wouldnt say im cut, and im definitely not thin (200+ lbs), but im by no means fat. im probably around 15% bodyfat. if i went on a diet for a little while i could probably get it down to around 0.3 inches, however i dont think its worth it given the difference is small and it would negatively affect my gym training. where im at now in terms of fat percentage is pretty comfortable to maintain. i would say its pretty easy to get to and maintain a fat pad similar to mine

doublelongdaddy;627633 said:
Fat pad reduces with major fat loss. For me it took a very healthy diet and lots of aerobic activity. It was hard to lose it but seeing all that penis appear as the fat disappeared was unreal, it was the biggest gain I made without gaining:)

i would hate to have a large fat pad, for many reasons but it would just suck so bad! you dont get to see your hard work


update: took the last 3 days off. wasnt intentional, but with it being christmas and all things just kinda got in the way. started back today, did my normal length routine and later will do my normal girth routine with possibly some clamping after to kick start gains. i want to start messing around with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] set times to see what is most effective, i also need to bring some kind of timer in with me as i find it hard to gauge how long im doing a set for
 
jordey;627997 said:
yeah i wasnt mad about it, quite happy actually, obviously we always want to gain more quicker though!

my fat pad is around 0.6 inch. i wouldnt say im cut, and im definitely not thin (200+ lbs), but im by no means fat. im probably around 15% bodyfat. if i went on a diet for a little while i could probably get it down to around 0.3 inches, however i dont think its worth it given the difference is small and it would negatively affect my gym training. where im at now in terms of fat percentage is pretty comfortable to maintain. i would say its pretty easy to get to and maintain a fat pad similar to mine



i would hate to have a large fat pad, for many reasons but it would just suck so bad! you dont get to see your hard work


update: took the last 3 days off. wasnt intentional, but with it being christmas and all things just kinda got in the way. started back today, did my normal length routine and later will do my normal girth routine with possibly some clamping after to kick start gains. i want to start messing around with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] set times to see what is most effective, i also need to bring some kind of timer in with me as i find it hard to gauge how long im doing a set for

Yeah I guess you don't have much of a fat pad to be worried about. My fat pad is no less than 1.5 inches since I am slightly over 300 lbs at the moment, so I plan to lose quite a bit of fat over the coming year and hopefully be over 8 NBPEL by the end of 2015.

Based on your comment I assume you are more into the power lifting or training for strength sort of thing than body building where you would focus on body fat a lot more.

Good luck and keep up the great gains!
 
boohoohoo;628029 said:
Yeah I guess you don't have much of a fat pad to be worried about. My fat pad is no less than 1.5 inches since I am slightly over 300 lbs at the moment, so I plan to lose quite a bit of fat over the coming year and hopefully be over 8 NBPEL by the end of 2015.

Based on your comment I assume you are more into the power lifting or training for strength sort of thing than body building where you would focus on body fat a lot more.

Good luck and keep up the great gains!

Try to see the weight loss as a major penis victory. I too was close to your weight and when I lost all of the fat I ended up going from a fat pad of about 2" to one that was less than .25" so I automatically saw an increase of 1.75" of length, it was an incredible accomplishment. The thing is you have to be consistent with exercise and diet even after you lose the weight because it can come back pretty quickly. Today I am overweight again and have a fat pad of about 1", which equates to about 60 pounds overweight in my case. What works best for me to lose this is keeping myself active, walking over driving, jogging, stair climbing, pretty much anything that keeps me active. And of course easting right. Easy for me to write this, the hard part is doing it.
 
doublelongdaddy;628336 said:
Try to see the weight loss as a major penis victory. I too was close to your weight and when I lost all of the fat I ended up going from a fat pad of about 2" to one that was less than .25" so I automatically saw an increase of 1.75" of length, it was an incredible accomplishment. The thing is you have to be consistent with exercise and diet even after you lose the weight because it can come back pretty quickly. Today I am overweight again and have a fat pad of about 1", which equates to about 60 pounds overweight in my case. What works best for me to lose this is keeping myself active, walking over driving, jogging, stair climbing, pretty much anything that keeps me active. And of course easting right. Easy for me to write this, the hard part is doing it.

Yeah I just measured and my fat pad is at least 2 inches at this point. I am going to get on a solid exercise and diet routine and hopefully get that fat pad below .5 inches during the coming year.
 
boohoohoo;628365 said:
Yeah I just measured and my fat pad is at least 2 inches at this point. I am going to get on a solid exercise and diet routine and hopefully get that fat pad below .5 inches during the coming year.

That would be a massive 1.75" gain without any PE involved. If you are training for PE during the fat loss you can end up seeing a gain of more than 2"! I hope that inspires you to lose that weight and to gain as much penis size as possible. You will end up becoming a brand new man!
 
What's the procedure for measuring fat pad? I'm like 20-25% bf, with an inordinately large fat pad. When I was like 150lbs with low bf I looked much bigger, but I know I'm like 1.25 in larger now. Plus, I'm hyper muscular at 230 now. My legs are 26" so that probably makes my dick look tiny around two mountains of thigh.

Very inspired btw OP.
 
BornInFigi;629203 said:
What's the procedure for measuring fat pad? I'm like 20-25% bf, with an inordinately large fat pad. When I was like 150lbs with low bf I looked much bigger, but I know I'm like 1.25 in larger now. Plus, I'm hyper muscular at 230 now. My legs are 26" so that probably makes my dick look tiny around two mountains of thigh.

Very inspired btw OP.

Well if you get cut and defined you will definitely look great then! What are you waiting for?
 
boohoohoo;628029 said:
Yeah I guess you don't have much of a fat pad to be worried about. My fat pad is no less than 1.5 inches since I am slightly over 300 lbs at the moment, so I plan to lose quite a bit of fat over the coming year and hopefully be over 8 NBPEL by the end of 2015.

Based on your comment I assume you are more into the power lifting or training for strength sort of thing than body building where you would focus on body fat a lot more.

Good luck and keep up the great gains!

yeah i train for powerlifting, i still have to keep my body fat from going too high as that would worsen my wilks score unnecessarily

boohoohoo;628365 said:
Yeah I just measured and my fat pad is at least 2 inches at this point. I am going to get on a solid exercise and diet routine and hopefully get that fat pad below .5 inches during the coming year.

as DLD has said theres alot of gains to be made for you in terms of nbp length! im not sure how much you know about diet or training, but ive lost weight in the past and have done a fair amount of research on diet and training over the last few years so if theres any advice you need that i can give i'd be more than happy to!

BornInFigi;629203 said:
What's the procedure for measuring fat pad? I'm like 20-25% bf, with an inordinately large fat pad. When I was like 150lbs with low bf I looked much bigger, but I know I'm like 1.25 in larger now. Plus, I'm hyper muscular at 230 now. My legs are 26" so that probably makes my dick look tiny around two mountains of thigh.

Very inspired btw OP.

for measuring fat pad you would just measure your non bone pressed length and bone pressed length. the difference between the two is how big your fat pad is.

thanks for the encouragement! i feel your pain as well, my thighs are 28 inches so even though i have a fairly small fat pad, the comparison with my legs makes my unit look smaller!


update: last week and a bit has been a bit inconsistent. what with christmas and the new year, and socialising and family etc, things have been a bit all over the place. now the holidays are over im back into it, and my next two week measure block started from the second (so i will measure on the 16th).

ive had a little breakthrough with my girth work. i was doing 5x2x3 but wasnt timing my sets, i was just relying on me feeling when 5 minutes was up. on friday i brought my phone into the bathroom and timed each set, this time going for 6-7 minute sets, and a little longer on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. the expansion was incredible! so much better than what i was doing before, and im still plump the next day. i did the same yesterday and again really good expansion. im gonna start timing each set now so im sure im getting the desired time in the tube.

02/01/15 - normal length routine (50 dld blasters, 3 sets basic stretches), normal girth routine (bathmate session) but as mentioned, this time with a bit longer in the tube and timed. edging with a cock ring after for ~20 minutes

03/01/15 - normal length routine, slightly longer girth routine. i wore a cockring after for about 4 hours

things are looking good and im excited to see what timing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] sessions can do for my gains! i think its gonna be very good going by the temp expansion. should be many gains in 2015!
 
Zambrodom3;629207 said:
Well if you get cut and defined you will definitely look great then! What are you waiting for?

I don't like cutting body fat. I like food, I like gains in the gym and i like beer. Getting cut is a pain in the ass. I look more like a weightlifter/powerlifter, than a bodybuilder and that's fine with me. Cuts are for sluts and I am in a comitted relationship. Basically, those are all my excuses. Dropping bodyfat is fucking hard as fuck. I'll work on my extra inch outside of the kitchen and maybe some day I'll diet down and gain another. Hahaha.
 
boohoohoo;627503 said:
Congrats man, .1 gained in both girth and length in 2 weeks is nothing to be made about, that is a pretty quick gain. It is also great to see you have such a limited fat pad. My question though is are you able to reduce your fat pad any more then it already is or are you pretty cut or thin as it is? I have a huge fat pad personally so I have begun to wonder how low I can eventually get mine.

boohoohoo;628029 said:
Yeah I guess you don't have much of a fat pad to be worried about. My fat pad is no less than 1.5 inches since I am slightly over 300 lbs at the moment, so I plan to lose quite a bit of fat over the coming year and hopefully be over 8 NBPEL by the end of 2015.

Based on your comment I assume you are more into the power lifting or training for strength sort of thing than body building where you would focus on body fat a lot more.

Good luck and keep up the great gains!

boohoohoo;628365 said:
Yeah I just measured and my fat pad is at least 2 inches at this point. I am going to get on a solid exercise and diet routine and hopefully get that fat pad below .5 inches during the coming year.

BornInFigi;629296 said:
I don't like cutting body fat. I like food, I like gains in the gym and i like beer. Getting cut is a pain in the ass. I look more like a weightlifter/powerlifter, than a bodybuilder and that's fine with me. Cuts are for sluts and I am in a comitted relationship. Basically, those are all my excuses. Dropping bodyfat is fucking hard as fuck. I'll work on my extra inch outside of the kitchen and maybe some day I'll diet down and gain another. Hahaha.

it doesnt have to be hard. ive cut a few times just to keep my weight in check after a few long bulks. if you do it right its not hard at all!
 
jordey;629300 said:
it doesnt have to be hard. ive cut a few times just to keep my weight in check after a few long bulks. if you do it right its not hard at all!

I'm more about the gains right now. Maybe when my legs are 28 inches I'll think about a cut.
 
boohoohoo;627503 said:
Congrats man, .1 gained in both girth and length in 2 weeks is nothing to be made about, that is a pretty quick gain. It is also great to see you have such a limited fat pad. My question though is are you able to reduce your fat pad any more then it already is or are you pretty cut or thin as it is? I have a huge fat pad personally so I have begun to wonder how low I can eventually get mine.

boohoohoo;628029 said:
Yeah I guess you don't have much of a fat pad to be worried about. My fat pad is no less than 1.5 inches since I am slightly over 300 lbs at the moment, so I plan to lose quite a bit of fat over the coming year and hopefully be over 8 NBPEL by the end of 2015.

Based on your comment I assume you are more into the power lifting or training for strength sort of thing than body building where you would focus on body fat a lot more.

Good luck and keep up the great gains!

boohoohoo;628365 said:
Yeah I just measured and my fat pad is at least 2 inches at this point. I am going to get on a solid exercise and diet routine and hopefully get that fat pad below .5 inches during the coming year.

BornInFigi;629307 said:
I'm more about the gains right now. Maybe when my legs are 28 inches I'll think about a cut.


fair enough, same here! i will probably be bulking for this whole year.


update: 04/05/15 normal girth and length routine, cock ring edging afterwards.

05/05/15 normal girth and length, altough i cut some of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s out. a little cockring edging afterwards and some clamping.


moving forward i think i will cut out most of the edging. it usually leads to me ejaculating at the end of it and i think ive been doing it too often. im probably gonna cut it out for a while, and instead just put a cockring on straight after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. i may also do 2-3 clamping sessions a week, and limit ejaculation to those times.

things are looking good though, timing my sets has been helping massively. it will be interesting to see how consistent my gains can be
 
Forever bulking... May go on a leaner mass phase with high protein, moderate carbs and low fat in March and April to shed a little weight for summer. Seems the best way for me to keep engery high.
 
BornInFigi;629739 said:
Forever bulking... May go on a leaner mass phase with high protein, moderate carbs and low fat in March and April to shed a little weight for summer. Seems the best way for me to keep engery high.

yeah this year i have big strength goals so i will probably bulk for most of it. not to mention the fact that when i diet and lift heavy i tend to get injured more so i try and stay away from it. as for yourself, a recomp will likely not be worth it if its only for 2 months. if i were you i would start a recomp now (or very slight bulk) with the aim of gaining or maintaining more muscle mass in relation to body fat (and thus reducing body fat percentage), or just go on a 2 month cut before summer
 
06/01/15 - no length routine, was feeling fatigued/ beat up. normal girth routine later which went very well, and i got some very good expansion from it with a little fluid retention. i still have some of the plumpness today but all of the fr has gone
 
07/01/15 - normal routine. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sessions went very well, getting good expansion earlier on into the session than usual.

girth work is going very well lately, im getting up to 5.8 + inches of temp girth, and fluid retention is fairly minimal (mainly in foreskin). some temp girth is lasting till the next day so im always slightly expanded. another week of my routine and i will measure. i think measuring in 2 week training blocks gives me good idea of whether im gaining with what im doing or not. i dont have very high hopes for length as i feel i may need to step up my length routine (doesnt feel too intense to me) but the measurements will tell me what i need to know
 
I personally measure officially once a month as I feel like that way I can avoid smaller differences that could just be erection quality issues. 2 weeks might be a solid way to evaluate how things are going, but personally if I don't gain at least .25 inches of length I don't truly consider myself to have gained anything at all.

Also, what are you strength goals and current numbers? Just curious...
 
boohoohoo;630458 said:
I personally measure officially once a month as I feel like that way I can avoid smaller differences that could just be erection quality issues. 2 weeks might be a solid way to evaluate how things are going, but personally if I don't gain at least .25 inches of length I don't truly consider myself to have gained anything at all.

Also, what are you strength goals and current numbers? Just curious...

i measure once every two weeks as i feel that if im not seeing results after 2 consistent weeks (however small they may be) then it will be a sign that what im doing isnt working and that i need to change things up (and not waste more time when i could be working more efficiently). when i gain more and gains slow down i will likely have to give things longer to see results, but right now im still fairly beginner in terms of how far into gains i am


as for strength. well, this has been a bit shakey. i injured a couple of my hip flexors a few months back and it has been a nightmare trying to rehab it. i havent really been able to work legs for months, and only now i am getting back into things but with some restrictions. i cant do my normal squat stance as it puts too much stress on my hip flexors (which arent 100% healed), so i have to squat a very narrow stance and atg. i also have to be careful with adding weight on deadlift aswell, baby steps and all, as i dont want to aggravate the injury and have to wait months for it to heal again. right now im good for a 155kg/ 342lb olympic atg squat (which would correlate to a 170-180kg normal squat), and a 190-205kg (418-452lb) deadlift. my bench has been unaffected by injury so has ben improving, and now is right around 125kg/ 275lb paused. my goals for this year are to spend the next few weeks continuing my rehab and making sure weight is feeling alright on hip, and do some form improvement (as the time off has messed my deadlift form up a bit). after i feel confident, i will up the intensity and volume on squats and deadlift but keep the squats to olympic until i know for certain my hip can handle my normal squat style. strength goals for this year are roughly a 5 plate squat, 5 and a half plate deadlift, and 3 plate bench. i plan on only gaining 10-20 pounds, bringing my weight up to 210-220.
 
Wow man, you already have great stats when it comes to the dead, squats, and bench, but if you hit your goals you will be a beast. 315 on the bench has always been the mark of a truly strong upper body in my mind, so I hope you get there. Do you supplement?
 
boohoohoo;630600 said:
Wow man, you already have great stats when it comes to the dead, squats, and bench, but if you hit your goals you will be a beast. 315 on the bench has always been the mark of a truly strong upper body in my mind, so I hope you get there. Do you supplement?

thanks! they dont seem very impressive to me, but maybe thats because i have fairly big goals. im still young so ive got a long way to go. i think another good measure of upper body strength is the strict overhead press. im hoping to get that past two plates this year, its currently at 90kg/ 198lbs.

as for 'supplements', if you mean things like steroids/ PED's, then no im completely natural. if you mean just regular sports/ dietary supplements, then i have whey protein (convenience really), and on workout days i take a preworkout for energy (much cheaper and cleaner than buying energy drinks)
 
08/01/15 - no length, full girth routine.


09/01/15 - off day


10/01/15 - slightly shorter length and girth routine

reason for the shorter workout yesterday was because there was blood while stretching again. this is the second time its happened, and while there is no pain it is a little worrying. i still cant really figure out where its coming from. i did some [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sets after and there was no blood, but just to be a little cautious i kept it a bit shorter.
 
jordey;630681 said:
08/01/15 - no length, full girth routine.


09/01/15 - off day


10/01/15 - slightly shorter length and girth routine

reason for the shorter workout yesterday was because there was blood while stretching again. this is the second time its happened, and while there is no pain it is a little worrying. i still cant really figure out where its coming from. i did some [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sets after and there was no blood, but just to be a little cautious i kept it a bit shorter.

It is definitely coming from a nick or cut on your urethra wall, inside the penis. You will need to take a few days off for it to heal completely or it will continue to open and bleed. Last time I had this issue I took a solid 5 days off and things cleared up and never happened again.
 
jordey;630680 said:
thanks! they dont seem very impressive to me, but maybe thats because i have fairly big goals. im still young so ive got a long way to go. i think another good measure of upper body strength is the strict overhead press. im hoping to get that past two plates this year, its currently at 90kg/ 198lbs.

as for 'supplements', if you mean things like steroids/ PED's, then no im completely natural. if you mean just regular sports/ dietary supplements, then i have whey protein (convenience really), and on workout days i take a preworkout for energy (much cheaper and cleaner than buying energy drinks)

It's good that you don't take any PED's as I'm sure you know they have horrendous side effects. I used to supplement with whey, glutamine, BCAA's, and NO. That combination did wonders for my goals early on, but after a while I switched to just taking whey.

I'm truly impressed by your maxes on each of those lifts. I know when someone is motivated they don't see themselves as being good enough, but I bet any gym you walk into you would be considered strong. Good luck with your future goals, I'll be checking in on you!
 
doublelongdaddy;630684 said:
It is definitely coming from a nick or cut on your urethra wall, inside the penis. You will need to take a few days off for it to heal completely or it will continue to open and bleed. Last time I had this issue I took a solid 5 days off and things cleared up and never happened again.

Wtf!!! How the fucked did this happen? Godspeed recovery mate...
 
if you work during an injury it will take longer to heal and you break will keep getting longer....its better to solve it before it gets worse....
a simple lump that i had could have been healed in a week but i continued training and now i am on a months break.....
try applying some healing ointment of cuts on penis for faster recovery
 
doublelongdaddy;630684 said:
It is definitely coming from a nick or cut on your urethra wall, inside the penis. You will need to take a few days off for it to heal completely or it will continue to open and bleed. Last time I had this issue I took a solid 5 days off and things cleared up and never happened again.

BornInFigi;630702 said:
Wtf!!! How the fucked did this happen? Godspeed recovery mate...

pogzee;630712 said:
if you work during an injury it will take longer to heal and you break will keep getting longer....its better to solve it before it gets worse....
a simple lump that i had could have been healed in a week but i continued training and now i am on a months break.....
try applying some healing ointment of cuts on penis for faster recovery

its happened once before (a couple of months ago) but both this time and the last time, theres been absolutely no pain. it happened both times while stretching, and as i am uncircumcised i have the foreskin around the head when i stretch. because of this, i just noticed blood around the head and foreskin which made it harder to see where it came from. i couldnt see after a lot of looking where the blood came from, there was no pain both times it happened (i only noticed when i looked down) and theres no pain after. considering theres no pain and no damage i can see, im just gonna carry on as normal, with maybe a little less stretching
 
doublelongdaddy;630684 said:
It is definitely coming from a nick or cut on your urethra wall, inside the penis. You will need to take a few days off for it to heal completely or it will continue to open and bleed. Last time I had this issue I took a solid 5 days off and things cleared up and never happened again.

BornInFigi;630702 said:
Wtf!!! How the fucked did this happen? Godspeed recovery mate...

boohoohoo;630697 said:
It's good that you don't take any PED's as I'm sure you know they have horrendous side effects. I used to supplement with whey, glutamine, BCAA's, and NO. That combination did wonders for my goals early on, but after a while I switched to just taking whey.

I'm truly impressed by your maxes on each of those lifts. I know when someone is motivated they don't see themselves as being good enough, but I bet any gym you walk into you would be considered strong. Good luck with your future goals, I'll be checking in on you!

im too young anyway to be taking peds (im 19). i may be open to in the future but i doubt i will ever take anything, not worth it unless i planned on being a record breaker.

for my numbers i suppose they could be good for the average person, but in terms of what i plan to get to in the future its only the start! and i work out at home so i dont really experience what other peoples numbers are :P and thanks! if things go right this year should be pretty good for me
 
If you are only 19 and you are already posting those numbers I would highly consider taking up body building and eventually entering competitions. With your strength background it should be easy to add the size that you would need onto your frame, and then you would just have to focus on cutting.

I'm sure you could make some cash if you work really hard at it, and you have at least 10 years before you begin to peak athletically. You are putting in the work anyway, so why not get the rewards?
 
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