First off, this is my first post, and I hope there will be many more to come.

I want to apologise to Jordey because I'm not familiar with threads and forums and could not find a way to start my own, but am on a similar buzz to Jordey so here goes guys..

I'm 19, 6ft 3, and 84,4 kgs cutting hard. I'm a student but bodybuilding is my lifestyle. I count calories and am currently keto dieting. Been training for 1 year now and in that year gained 20 kgs in 7 months, 90% muscle - no steriods. My goal is to be 100kg's cut at 6% by 21. However, to the reason we are all here:

Penis enlargement! Yeah buddaayyy! I'm glad to say that I know it works, just havent joined up to a site with other bro's until now. DLD you've heard this before but you're legend who I one day (soon) aim to emulate. I first dabbled in Penis Enlargement years ago when I realised that i was going to be tall but my wang was max 6 inches at 110% BP. Went through loads of useless information and pills to no avail. However, started jelqing and stretching increasingly renecently and somehow the boy has grown to 7 inches bonepressed ruler in middle of shaft (8 inches ruler on side of shaft). Bear in mind I used elements of bodybuilding training and also am convinced i only got length gains in last 3 months. Definitely not genetic growth. Now I'm taking Penis Enlargement as serious as I take gym so I have a question for anybody who will answer..

Jelqing above 50% is great for increasing girth and vascularity while under 50% hits the ligs more and is meant to therefore give length. From what I can see I have gained great lig length (suspensory ligament) and overall girth with a huge head size increase, but want to actually increase shaft length. There's not point having huge ligs and a standard shaft. So.. given that I know how to stretch ligs, if I continue stretching the whole shaft and ligs will the shaft eventually elongate, or should I rather hold back the ligs and stretch the shaft alone (knowing that not holding back ligs puts more tension on ligs and less on shaft)?

Second question is: I am quite an experienced jelqer and am convinced that my length gains came from jelqing straight and down and stretching susp lig simultaneously. Can jelqing increase shaft length?
 
ok so havent really had any activity on here for a while, reason being ive been very very busy, had to move house and sort out all the issues surrounding it aswell as help out. its not really an excuse i know as i probably could of made time, but ive just been trying to get on top of everything. ive done a little p.e. now and then but not a structured program. ive still been lifting though, with the aim of gaining weight and a new focus more geared toward powerlifting. ive been focusing on powerlifting and form on the big 3 for roughly the past 3 months. before then my goals were more aesthetic/ bodybuilding orientated (roughly for one year).

after getting ill and losing weight in the summer, aswell as damaging my shoulder and having to make drasric changes to form on some lifts im now back on track making good progress. i still want to be aesthetic, but also want to be athletic and train for performance.

my lifts 3/4 months ago:

bench: 70 kg (154) x 5
squat: 87.5 kg (193lb) x 5
deadlift: 135 kg (298lb) x5

my current gym p.r's are:

deadlift: 155 kg (342lb) x 5 (deadlift hasnt improved much as i had to improve/ change form which forced me to lower weight)
squat: 116 kg (256lb) x 3 (hybrid style)
bench: 93.5 kg (206lb) x 3 (paused)
OHP: 70 kg (155lb) x 5
pendlay row: 90kg (199lb) x 3


im currently doing madcow 5x5, which i plan on ending in 4 weeks, then testing my one rep maxes, which SHOULD net me around a 410lb deadlift, 308lb squat and a 235lb paused bench

bodyweight is currently around 190/192lb


as for p.e., i plan on doing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sets supersetted with jelqs or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. then some stretching at a different time. i havent measured in a while but cant imagine im any different. im looking for basically the same increase (of just over an inch) in both length and girth.
ill post back soon with my actual measurements and specific p.e. plan
 
ok, just measured, im 6.9 inch NBPenis EnlargementL and 5 inch MSEG. current short term goals are 7.25 inch NBPenis EnlargementL and 5.25 MSEG. long term goal is 8x6, but possibly more.
 
update:
squat is going well, 134kg x3, will be testing my max in 3 weeks to hopefully break 150kg.
deadlift progress is slow, but getting there.
bench has stalled so need to re think weight and rep ranges or just re set my programme.

as for p.e, ive been very inconsistent which is why i havent really made gains. reason being is i dont think i want it THAT bad; if i had started off below average i think i would have a bigger drive to spend more time on it. i also feel kinda 'dirty' when im watching adult entertainment or whatever. i have recently figured out though that i will likely make better gains if i dont cum/ dont masturbate much. this is because if i dont, ill get more spontaneous erections and a greater desire to tug... meaning i will be more likely to do some exercises, rather than cumming then forgetting about my dick for a few days. it also seems that if i dont cum then i seem to maintain a pump for longer after the work, and feel more achy, i also get longer harder erections during the night. all of these i feel would net me better gains. also not cumming is helping to teach me self control; most p.e sessions are ruined in the past from my 'warm up' going a bit too far as i didnt have the control to stop, fight the urge, and get the work done. if i can learn better self control of those urges i will likely get better workouts in (and have done this past week) and i think it may carry over to other aspects in life that require self control.
 
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Good to see someone who knows something about lifting. I looked at your starting stats and saw you post Bench, Overhead Press, Dead Lift, and ATG squat.

By the way, a little 5 day var cycle never hurt anyone and made for some nice plateau breakers.... just a thought.

EDIT:

Looks like you and I have almost the exact same lifting stats as well.

If MADCOW doesn't work for you, you may want to try Wendler's 5/3/1. I've been doing a specific variation and my lifts are going through the roof.
 
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Tahir Aqbar;592060 said:
Subbed.

Good to see someone who knows something about lifting. I looked at your starting stats and saw you post Bench, Overhead Press, Dead Lift, and ATG squat.

By the way, a little 5 day var cycle never hurt anyone and made for some nice plateau breakers.... just a thought.

EDIT:

Looks like you and I have almost the exact same lifting stats as well.

If MADCOW doesn't work for you, you may want to try Wendler's 5/3/1. I've been doing a specific variation and my lifts are going through the roof.

Thanks man!

im only just getting into consistent p.e. now, so im back and can now update my progress thread as its been a little while.
in terms of lifting, i dont actually do much atg squats anymore as im planning on competing in powerlifting soon so obviously that style isnt optimal.

my current best lifts are (last week): 158kg x 3 squat
165kg x 5 deadlifts (this was after 5x5 bench and deadlift)
108kg x 3 bench (paused)

i would say my total is around 500kg now, hoping for about 520kg by the time i do my meet. current bodyweight is 93kg/ 205lb.

about the var, ive never taken any drugs and dont plan to, especially as i will be competing in a drug tested federation. im on a new program though and training is going well. thanks for the advice anyway :cool:

as for p.e., this is what im currently doing:

basic stretches 5x per week
400 jelqs (with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] every 100) 4-5 times per week [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] 4 times per week [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]- max tensions for 2 x 10-20 minute sets [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/ [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]

ive been doing this for about a week. im going to resist the temptation to measure until another two weeks of consistency have passed, so i dont currently know what my exact size is but roughly 7 inches non bone pressed and 5 inches mseg
 
Damn. I should be competing in drug tested powerlifting. How tall are you? It seems like you have a long torso because your squat is pretty close to your dead lift.

Last week was my max effort week and I got...
Bench 225(102) x 6
Squats 245(124) x 3
Dead Lift 355(161) x 11 (dead stop)

That's at 6'2 and 195lbs. I'll trade you my dead lift for your squat.
 
Tahir Aqbar;592117 said:
Damn. I should be competing in drug tested powerlifting. How tall are you? It seems like you have a long torso because your squat is pretty close to your dead lift.

Last week was my max effort week and I got...
Bench 225(102) x 6
Squats 245(124) x 3
Dead Lift 355(161) x 11 (dead stop)

That's at 6'2 and 195lbs. I'll trade you my dead lift for your squat.

im 6ft. i actually measured my proportions the other week, and i have slightly longer legs and a short torso. the only reason my deadlift numbers (above) are low is because they were done after volume squats and bench. i reckon i would be good for around 178 for 5 fresh, and i would assume my maxes (based on past experience) for my lifts would be 170/118/200, s/b/d respectively, so i would say theyre pretty proportionate. im aiming for 125/190/215 in a couple months time but ill see how it goes, i will also be dieting down a bit aswell.

im now on a new program now which starts off with fairly high volume so ill see how i progress. im competing in the junior category which is under 23, so i have a few years to bring up my numbers and improve my total. i have big goals so this is only the start!
 
jordey;592114 said:
Thanks man!

im only just getting into consistent p.e. now, so im back and can now update my progress thread as its been a little while.
in terms of lifting, i dont actually do much atg squats anymore as im planning on competing in powerlifting soon so obviously that style isnt optimal.

my current best lifts are (last week): 158kg x 3 squat
165kg x 5 deadlifts (this was after 5x5 bench and deadlift)
108kg x 3 bench (paused)

i would say my total is around 500kg now, hoping for about 520kg by the time i do my meet. current bodyweight is 93kg/ 205lb.

about the var, ive never taken any drugs and dont plan to, especially as i will be competing in a drug tested federation. im on a new program though and training is going well. thanks for the advice anyway :cool:

as for p.e., this is what im currently doing:

basic stretches 5x per week
400 jelqs (with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] every 100) 4-5 times per week [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] 4 times per week [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]- max tensions for 2 x 10-20 minute sets [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/ [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]

ive been doing this for about a week. im going to resist the temptation to measure until another two weeks of consistency have passed, so i dont currently know what my exact size is but roughly 7 inches non bone pressed and 5 inches mseg


Happy to see an update, I worry when I don't hear from Brothers for a while. Best to you on this restart!
 
doublelongdaddy;592281 said:
Happy to see an update, I worry when I don't hear from Brothers for a while. Best to you on this restart!

thanks for the encouragement! my biggest obstacle in the past for p.e. has been consistency. now though i feel its the hardest and most consistent ive been going at it, so i feel like gains will come.

for the past few days ive been seperating the jelqing and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words], using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] in the morning and doing jelqs later on. i feel i get alot better expansion, as using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] after jelqs is usually painful from fatigue, and expansion isnt as good. i can only get to just under 190, and cant hold it for long as it hurts. however when i separate it and use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] at a different time, i can get up to 195 comfortably, and get some temporary girth gain after.

quick question, how does stretched length (in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) translate to erect length gain? and how does temporary girth (from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words]) translate to girth gains?
 
jordey;592347 said:
quick question, how does stretched length (in an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) translate to erect length gain? and how does temporary girth (from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words]) translate to girth gains?

From what I've read through on this forum the difference varies person to person. But as long as you stay consistent and vary your workout here and there you will make gains in both flaccid and erect.

I find when I'm more consistent here in the forums it translates to more consistency in my PE routines.
 
jordey;592246 said:
im 6ft. i actually measured my proportions the other week, and i have slightly longer legs and a short torso. the only reason my deadlift numbers (above) are low is because they were done after volume squats and bench. i reckon i would be good for around 178 for 5 fresh, and i would assume my maxes (based on past experience) for my lifts would be 170/118/200, s/b/d respectively, so i would say theyre pretty proportionate. im aiming for 125/190/215 in a couple months time but ill see how it goes, i will also be dieting down a bit aswell.

im now on a new program now which starts off with fairly high volume so ill see how i progress. im competing in the junior category which is under 23, so i have a few years to bring up my numbers and improve my total. i have big goals so this is only the start!

It takes a long time, but there are plenty of drug free guys in their mid 30's who started where you and I are at, at the same age and they have mind blowing amounts of strength. If you do it right you can progress in power lifting well into your 40's. Keep it up.
 
Tahir Aqbar;592458 said:
If you do it right you can progress in power lifting well into your 40's. Keep it up.

I am 47 and still have a killer boxing game. I think I am stronger, faster and more on point now than ever before. Age is only a number.
 
doublelongdaddy;592550 said:
I am 47 and still have a killer boxing game. I think I am stronger, faster and more on point now than ever before. Age is only a number.

I think that's why so many martial arts have belt systems that take decades to advance through. Jiu Jitsu or BJJ take years to advance through no matter how natural it comes to a person. There's a degree of athletic ability and a degree of age/maturity that contributes to the mastery of a sport.
 
Tahir Aqbar;592604 said:
I think that's why so many martial arts have belt systems that take decades to advance through. Jiu Jitsu or BJJ take years to advance through no matter how natural it comes to a person. There's a degree of athletic ability and a degree of age/maturity that contributes to the mastery of a sport.


Yes, with age I have learned to fight smarter. I have trained myself to learn the pattern of my opponent and attack from a smarter point. I can go north or south seamlessly and this allows me many options over my North paw opponents. When I was younger I just threw punches as fast as I could, today I know one punch can do the job if placed right.
 
update:

feeling alot better with seperating the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] and jelqing. i get much better expansion using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] away from jelqing. ive been jelqing a little less lately but the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] and stretching has been consistent. i said i would measure untill 2 weeks had passed, but after getting out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] today my dick just felt so much better than normal so i had to measure it. my girth had been 5-5.1inch, and length just a mm under 7 inch. after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] session today my length was a solid 7 inch, and mseg was 5.35! i know these are only temporary from the pumping, but it still felt so good, and now cant wait to get to that size normally.
 
jordey;592667 said:
update:

feeling alot better with seperating the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] and jelqing. i get much better expansion using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] away from jelqing. ive been jelqing a little less lately but the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] and stretching has been consistent. i said i would measure untill 2 weeks had passed, but after getting out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] today my dick just felt so much better than normal so i had to measure it. my girth had been 5-5.1inch, and length just a mm under 7 inch. after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bm[/words] session today my length was a solid 7 inch, and mseg was 5.35! i know these are only temporary from the pumping, but it still felt so good, and now cant wait to get to that size normally.

Keep the gains up in practice and they will soon become permanent. You could also practice erect stretching, one particular style really seems to be the best and this is laying down, with a complete erection and using both hands stretch the penis downward against the erection angle and so as you ar stretching toward your feet. 5-10 minutes of these every 3 days will truly help in cementing the gains. I also offer some of the heeling techniques in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], very smart practices.
 
Tahir Aqbar;592604 said:
I think that's why so many martial arts have belt systems that take decades to advance through. Jiu Jitsu or BJJ take years to advance through no matter how natural it comes to a person. There's a degree of athletic ability and a degree of age/maturity that contributes to the mastery of a sport.

for most people yes. BJ Penn - 3 years...Mike Fowler - 3 years...Jonathan Torres - 3-5 years. It is possible. These guys were extrememly successful competitively. BJ Penn was the first non brazilian to win at the worlds only weeks after getting his black belt.
 
update:
things are going well. i measured properly this morning, 24 hours after any girth work and 20 hours after any length work so i assume its accurate. i measured at 5.2 MSEG x 7 NBP. - pretty happy! my previous short term goal was 7 x 5.25, so im very close, after a week and a half of consistency. once i reach this goal my next one will be 7.25 x 5.5.

just a little question to those replying here, and im sure its been asked many times over, but what size do you have to be to be considered big, and what size to be huge?
 
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