Yes sirs, My body building experience plays into many things PE in my routines. My Hard Core Hanging technique grew from just that and I am sticking to it until I hit at least 10 1/2" BPEL and cemented in place. I go at it 4 days per week these days! - Dash
 
Dashdeming;595106 said:
Yes sirs, My body building experience plays into many things PE in my routines. My Hard Core Hanging technique grew from just that and I am sticking to it until I hit at least 10 1/2" BPEL and cemented in place. I go at it 4 days per week these days! - Dash

What is your size today Dash?
 
spyoung;581429 said:
After several months of no gains, I am up to 22.5 pounds and have finally squeezed out a gain. I am now 2 little ticks away from 7.5 and I feel like I am back on my way to 8! I try my best to do 7 days a week, 2 broken up sets of 20 minutes a day. Thanks for this approach, Dash!

What are you doing? Is it 2X 20 minute sets a day everyday? Hanging btc or straight down
 
I am a solid 10 now bpel when I am fully erect. I will admit that getting 100% erect is not as easy as it once was but I feels amazing using this new cock of mine!


doublelongdaddy;595188 said:
What is your size today Dash?
 
Dashdeming;595458 said:
I am a solid 10 now bpel when I am fully erect. I will admit that getting 100% erect is not as easy as it once was but I feels amazing using this new cock of mine!

Cool so 2-3 2 minute sets 5 days a week? And [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] used?
 
Dashdeming;595580 said:
yes, 20 minute sets. I jelk it up some too for the good blood flow.

Sounds good 2-3 twenty minute sessions hanging straight out must stretch the penis itself not the ligaments and progressing in weight not going to hard to quickly will help your EQ as well as the 2 days off for rest and jelqing.
A lot of people would go bibs route and hang for hours a day but it's to much your hardcore routine seems to work just as good if not better.
 
Well I can only say it works better for me and I hope it does for you too. I think my hardcore method has it's merits for sure. My penis continues to get bigger. I am happy with the results and I am in it for the long haul. I have been at this for over 15 years now and I have a big cock that pleases lots of hot groupie chicks and ultimately makes me happier and happier each year. Gotta love PE. No regrets taking my own path. If I had hung 4 hours a day for all those years would I have an even bigger penis? Who knows really but the reality of my time constraints along with lifestyle pretty much limit me to what I have developed. No complaints!



8incyclops;595587 said:
Sounds good 2-3 twenty minute sessions hanging straight out must stretch the penis itself not the ligaments and progressing in weight not going to hard to quickly will help your EQ as well as the 2 days off for rest and jelqing.
A lot of people would go bibs route and hang for hours a day but it's to much your hardcore routine seems to work just as good if not better.
 
Dashdeming;596156 said:
Well I can only say it works better for me and I hope it does for you too. I think my hardcore method has it's merits for sure. My penis continues to get bigger. I am happy with the results and I am in it for the long haul. I have been at this for over 15 years now and I have a big cock that pleases lots of hot groupie chicks and ultimately makes me happier and happier each year. Gotta love PE. No regrets taking my own path. If I had hung 4 hours a day for all those years would I have an even bigger penis? Who knows really but the reality of my time constraints along with lifestyle pretty much limit me to what I have developed. No complaints!

Just to clarify you hung mainly straight out?
 
In the early days I went straight down and BTC a good bit to get the lig gain and got faster gains because of that. Eventually I reached the extent of my lig gains and switched more to SO and some OTC to get more focus on the actual penis proper. Dig?



8incyclops;596190 said:
Just to clarify you hung mainly straight out?
 
Dashdeming;596323 said:
In the early days I went straight down and BTC a good bit to get the lig gain and got faster gains because of that. Eventually I reached the extent of my lig gains and switched more to SO and some OTC to get more focus on the actual penis proper. Dig?

Tx I've pretty much exhausted lig gains so I'll hang SO combined with some SD
 
Dash are you hanging in standing or sitting position?
So how much have you gained since you started PE?

Girth and BPEL?

regards
 
Has anyone tried hanging straight down in a seated position with a fulcrum underneath their dick at the very extreme base?

I've tried it out hanging with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] as my fulcrum, I feel a good stretch and burn around the taint area and pc muscle. I believe this is what will express the internal penis in the hanging world.
 
Jaronimo;596455 said:
Has anyone tried hanging straight down in a seated position with a fulcrum underneath their dick at the very extreme base?

I've tried it out hanging with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] as my fulcrum, I feel a good stretch and burn around the taint area and pc muscle. I believe this is what will express the internal penis in the hanging world.

I tried once but could never get the fulcrum positioned correctly some guys say the hanger should be touching the fulcrum,straight out feels good but I would like to master the fulcrum setup although I've never read guys making gains from it bib said he only ever hung btc but I don't even know how much he gained hanging.
 
Jaronimo;596455 said:
Has anyone tried hanging straight down in a seated position with a fulcrum underneath their dick at the very extreme base?

I've tried it out hanging with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] as my fulcrum, I feel a good stretch and burn around the taint area and pc muscle. I believe this is what will express the internal penis in the hanging world.

I have done this the exact same way and feel the same strong stretch and burn. I also really like hanging straight out and using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] as a fulcrum by pushing and pulling it at different points along the length of my cock. I lay on my back and have a pulley on my ceiling to hang straight out with.

As you know using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words] as a fulcrum while hanging really intensifies a hanging session.
 
I did try this myself and found it to be inconsistent and did not result in any gains at all after 6 months a few years ago. There are friction related issues with this type of hanging that need a solution. I have a design on the books to improve this but it will take time to get to a prototype and proof of concept.


Jaronimo;596455 said:
Has anyone tried hanging straight down in a seated position with a fulcrum underneath their dick at the very extreme base?

I've tried it out hanging with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] and used the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] as my fulcrum, I feel a good stretch and burn around the taint area and pc muscle. I believe this is what will express the internal penis in the hanging world.
 
Dashdeming;596660 said:
I did try this myself and found it to be inconsistent and did not result in any gains at all after 6 months a few years ago. There are friction related issues with this type of hanging that need a solution. I have a design on the books to improve this but it will take time to get to a prototype and proof of concept.

a soft sock has taken care of friction for me when doing this
 
8incyclops;597034 said:
Also I haven't read much!!! anywhere were people report any gains from using a fulcrum compared to other angles

Yea I've just started doing it myself. using a fulcrum does increase the intensity of a stretch for me but i do most stretching/hanging without a fulcrum. I think PE gains will always be tough to really believe b/c it's always just here say. There are very few high quality pictures out there in comparison to the amount of men who say they have made gains without providing any proof. of course most of us believe them here and know they are being honest but when it comes to mainstream forums in this world believing them it will take some very strong evidence based sources for the world to believe fully. and everyone wants to remain anonymous lol which also makes it tough. but i do believe it will be accepted one day.
 
Fulcrum with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] combo

<iframe src="http://flashservice.xvideos.com/embedframe/8725839" frameborder=0 width=510 height=400 scrolling=no></iframe>
 
8incyclops;597040 said:
Btc is the most extreme angle fulcrum hanging is only for the tunica but straight is way better dash is proof of that

I've never been much of a btc stretcher probably b/c i/ve never cared to use my hands much...it is deff a strong stretch though just not for me. i feel much more stretch in various other ways.

Using a fulcrum really stretches more than just the tunica. I have started using it b/c of how strong on an inner penis stretch i feel when doing it. now of course an isolation of the tunica can be achieved using a fulcrum. I've experimented with that using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and a marker or small flashlight as a fulcrum. Below is a video of this for anyone interested. in post #578 my video shows how using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] with a resistant band [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretching can really hit the inner penis

<iframe src="http://flashservice.xvideos.com/embedframe/8576043" frameborder=0 width=510 height=400 scrolling=no></iframe>
 
The idea is to isolate the tunica all this info has been done before,bibs members have used the fulcrum to hang the penis the other way around and over on thunders they call these V stretches
 
8incyclops;597051 said:
The idea is to isolate the tunica all this info has been done before,bibs members have used the fulcrum to hang the penis the other way around and over on thunders they call these V stretches

I've been enjoying the strong isolation a fulcrum can bring to the inner penis as well. A tool that was intended for stretching one specific area (tunica in this case) can also be used to hit other areas. previous info that has been done before is meant to be used and advanced. It's the advancement of a small part in PE though I suspect someone before me has gotten strong inner penis stretches using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] for leverage in increasing stretch intensity. At 1:47 in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] video I call it a V-Stretch. Never been on thunders though...saw it here a while back.

So anyone who reads this or watches my vid...a fulcrum can be used to increase inner penis stretch intensity.
 
I disagree the fulcrum will take away a lot if not all the intensity from inner penis stretching,the fulcrum is used to help target the tunica getting rid of the fulcrum and the stretch is isolated elsewhere
 
8incyclops;597057 said:
I disagree the fulcrum will take away a lot if not all the intensity from inner penis stretching,the fulcrum is used to help target the tunica getting rid of the fulcrum and the stretch is isolated elsewhere

hmmm to disagree is interesting. I am saying I found (I don't think I was the first person to do this) and EXPERIENCED that using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum has increased inner penis stretch intensity during my PE sessions. That is impossible to disagree with unless it is thought that I am lying and in fact did not experience this. And my video shows how it targeted the inner penis rather than the tunica at least when the cock is already in a fully stretched position like my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] resistant band stretch.

If everything in PE was as exact and unchangeable as you believe the fulcrum method is, PE advancement would go very slowly.
 
youknowme123321;597060 said:
hmmm to disagree is interesting. I am saying I found (I don't think I was the first person to do this) and EXPERIENCED that using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum has increased inner penis stretch intensity during my PE sessions. That is impossible to disagree with unless it is thought that I am lying and in fact did not experience this. And my video shows how it targeted the inner penis rather than the tunica at least when the cock is already in a fully stretched position like my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] resistant band stretch.

If everything in PE was as exact and unchangeable as you believe the fulcrum method is, PE advancement would go very slowly.

The fulcrum isolates all the force to one area so if you stretch straight out then add a fulcrum the force will be around the fulcrum
 
8incyclops;597063 said:
The fulcrum isolates all the force to one area so if you stretch straight out then add a fulcrum the force will be around the fulcrum

we are dealing with the human body here...not a soft noodle that is being laid out over a stick. when the cock is stretched straight out the force of the stretch is at the attachment site of the cock to the body to whatever degree the strength of the force is. there us also increased tension though the length of the cock. When this force remains intact as a fulcrum is applied from any direction, force of pull at the attachment site increases. the attachment site is the inner penis. you can see the stretch at the base of the cock increase at 31 seconds into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] video when pressure is applied using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] fulcrum.

are you just busting my chops right now?? lol

31 seconds in
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The fulcrum is not expressive not pulling out inner penis the tension is on the penis itself that's the idea of a fulcrum to make gains from the penis itself
Let's not hijack Dash's hardcore hanging thread
 
8incyclops;597072 said:
The fulcrum is not expressive not pulling out inner penis the tension is on the penis itself that's the idea of a fulcrum to make gains from the penis itself
Let's not hijack Dash's hardcore hanging thread

Hey Dash If you like hanging straight (i do) out I have found that using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum will really increase the stretch intensity to the inner penis. I show this in the video above.

Update:

just found this awesome thread using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] just like I discovered for myself recently. i just use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to stretch straight rather then my hand. i knew someone must have figured this out before me.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...Expressive-Stretching-using-the-PA&highlight=

are you still heavy into the hanging game Dash?
 
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youknowme123321;597075 said:
Hey Dash If you like hanging straight (i do) out I have found that using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum will really increase the stretch intensity to the inner penis. I show this in the video above.

Update:

just found this awesome thread using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] just like I discovered for myself recently. i just use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to stretch straight rather then my hand. i knew someone must have figured this out before me.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...Expressive-Stretching-using-the-PA&highlight=

are you still heavy into the hanging game Dash?

Yeah, hole stretching was one of the first Expressive Stretches created. After this it was low grip stretching and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] Hardcore Stretching.
 
doublelongdaddy;597113 said:
Yeah, hole stretching was one of the first Expressive Stretches created. After this it was low grip stretching and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] Hardcore Stretching.

Although the fulcrum is used to stretch the particular area it's not really expressive,expressive would be removing the fulcrum and hanging that way even at a lower point in the penis would be really expressive
 
8incyclops;597181 said:
Although the fulcrum is used to stretch the particular area it's not really expressive,expressive would be removing the fulcrum and hanging that way even at a lower point in the penis would be really expressive

I use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum to stretch the internal penis and not the particular area I place it. It hits my inner penis with greater intensity then just hanging alone.
 
youknowme123321;597184 said:
I use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum to stretch the internal penis and not the particular area I place it. It hits my inner penis with greater intensity then just hanging alone.

Should really move this subject elsewere ill create another thread Dash's hardcore hanging thread is way to good for this and its getting hijacked any chance admins could delete some of these posts?
 
Don't worry about it. It is all good. Drawing from my engineering years I would only comment that the total force is not appreciably increased because of the use of a fulcrum device in this case, however, leverage is applied at a specific point and some amount of force is concentrated on a smaller area of tissue. If one were to imagine amplifying the scenario by bending a steel pipe that is under a fixed tension over a fixed object (fulcrum) then you would see strain increase on the now lengthened area and a slightly compressed area at the point of the fulcrum. Mathematically this is so. The net tension would remain the same while to localized forces have a net balance. The theoretical gain, therefore, is localized in the long area at the greatest distance from the fulcrum at the top of the pipe. That plastic deformation IS why fulcrum hanging may have an advantage. Of course there are imperfections in the application because of frictional forces and other variables revolving around moment arms and some related ratios. Do you guys follow what I am saying here or maybe I should just shut the fuck up?
 
I follow it Dash. I think I might have to follow a similar routine to this in the near future because of lack of time. Dash how often would you say you used an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and what are your thoughts about them
 
Hi brothers, i bought the bib hanger around 2 months ago because i wanted to get into heavy hanging. I started at 4lbs and slowly went up to 12 lbs in 2 months, the results i got were decent, but i didnt like the hanging experience at all(pinching, uncomfortable, no bloodflow in glans, feels like its bad for my glans) and yes i tried different wraps etc but it still felt quite uncomfortable in my glans-area
So i read some reviews on the LG hanger and they sounded pretty solid, so i want to give it a try. But i have 2 questions and hope someone here knows the answers:

1) Up to how heavy can u hang comfortably with the LG hanger?

2) Since its a vacuum hanger around the glans, will that permanently increase the size of my glans with the time? I dont really want to increase the size of my glans to be honest, kinda feel like big penis"torso" and medium or small sized head looks more aesthetic(just my opinion), so im worried about this

My plan is to do 20 mins per day of heavy hanging(right before bed) and then use a overnight stretcher while sleeping(phallosan).
Im posting here because most ppl here are into heavy hanging too and i was hoping maybe they tried the LG hanger or actually use it
 
If you get your taping down I think you can hang as heavy as you want and as much as the sleeves will allow. The owner got up to 25 lbs. With proper taping or even stronger sleeves, which might happen in the future or you can learn to make your own, I can see it getting up higher. But 25 pounds should take a new hanger quite a while to work up to
 
longstretch;599621 said:
If you get your taping down I think you can hang as heavy as you want and as much as the sleeves will allow. The owner got up to 25 lbs. With proper taping or even stronger sleeves, which might happen in the future or you can learn to make your own, I can see it getting up higher. But 25 pounds should take a new hanger quite a while to work up to

Hanging heavy is all about the wrap, when I first started hanging I could not go past 15-20 pounds without unreal pain and pinching, it was only after I mastered wrapping that I was able to go as heavy as I wanted with complete comfort.
 
Everyone responds differently but I personally go 5 days on and 2 days off as long as my EQ does not suffer. You do need to work up to this if you are hanging heavy. I also tend to lay off the weekend so I can have sex more times throughout the weekend after the gig. Since I have stopped consuming alcohol I am able to really push the limits for hanging. Use good judgement and avoid personal injury. Don't let PE rule your life and remove you from social contact. Take time off and enjoy yourself as you go. Balance and moderation are key points in my life. I recommend this approach for everyone. Dig?

8incyclops;600144 said:
Dash I'm hanging SO 2X 30 minutes with the LG hanger started with 2.5 kgs but moved up to 5 kgs now should I do it 7 days a week? Or do you think we need rest?
 
Dashdeming;600552 said:
Everyone responds differently but I personally go 5 days on and 2 days off as long as my EQ does not suffer. You do need to work up to this if you are hanging heavy. I also tend to lay off the weekend so I can have sex more times throughout the weekend after the gig. Since I have stopped consuming alcohol I am able to really push the limits for hanging. Use good judgement and avoid personal injury. Don't let PE rule your life and remove you from social contact. Take time off and enjoy yourself as you go. Balance and moderation are key points in my life. I recommend this approach for everyone. Dig?

Thanks a lot best post I've read in a while so true don't let PE control your life I'm currently on my 5th day straight EQ is still at normal and my penis is hanging thicker and a longer flaccid pull and I can feel it tougher so maybe I need more weight soon.
 
8incyclops;600569 said:
Thanks a lot best post I've read in a while so true don't let PE control your life I'm currently on my 5th day straight EQ is still at normal and my penis is hanging thicker and a longer flaccid pull and I can feel it tougher so maybe I need more weight soon.

5 days and counting!!
 
You have got it going brother!


8incyclops;600569 said:
Thanks a lot best post I've read in a while so true don't let PE control your life I'm currently on my 5th day straight EQ is still at normal and my penis is hanging thicker and a longer flaccid pull and I can feel it tougher so maybe I need more weight soon.
 
Dashdeming;600552 said:
Everyone responds differently but I personally go 5 days on and 2 days off as long as my EQ does not suffer. You do need to work up to this if you are hanging heavy. I also tend to lay off the weekend so I can have sex more times throughout the weekend after the gig. Since I have stopped consuming alcohol I am able to really push the limits for hanging. Use good judgement and avoid personal injury. Don't let PE rule your life and remove you from social contact. Take time off and enjoy yourself as you go. Balance and moderation are key points in my life. I recommend this approach for everyone. Dig?

Very true. A lot of guys get so caught up that they feel they have to do PE 24/7. PE should enhance your life not take it over.
 
Dashdeming;600552 said:
Everyone responds differently but I personally go 5 days on and 2 days off as long as my EQ does not suffer. You do need to work up to this if you are hanging heavy. I also tend to lay off the weekend so I can have sex more times throughout the weekend after the gig. Since I have stopped consuming alcohol I am able to really push the limits for hanging. Use good judgement and avoid personal injury. Don't let PE rule your life and remove you from social contact. Take time off and enjoy yourself as you go. Balance and moderation are key points in my life. I recommend this approach for everyone. Dig?
Wow I think me and you are on the same path brother and have come to some of the same conclusions. I quit drugs and alcohol a year ago tomorrow. Since then I have a more active social and family life. PE just doesn't consume my life anymore but like working out it is something I enjoy making progress in and still do regularly but everything in life must be pursued with balance. I think this thread is great because it shows that you can make great gains and have a life too.
 
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longstretch;600863 said:
Wow I think me and you are on the same path brother and have come to some of the same conclusions. I quit drugs and alcohol a year ago tomorrow. Since then I have a more active social and family life. PE just doesn't consume my life anymore but like working out it is something I enjoy making progress in and still do regularly but everything in life must be pursued with balance. I think this thread is great because it shows that you can make great gains and have a life too.
 
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