Oh, ya, I never go with hard tension on the extender. I like to keep it in that loose, jelly state. If I used too much tension, it's just thin and stretched tight. I don't think that will benefit me any, probably just lead to over training.

No I haven't thought of that but it's a cool idea, it may even give you a different stretch
 
So I was going through my Penis Enlargement gear and decided to take out my X4 for a try. It turns out that the stretch I feel from extending in this thing is much stronger than the one I feel when I have the PMP on. I hate to admit it but its true. Now the question is which one I can leave on for a longer amount of time. I remember the constriction from the X4 used to make my glans go cold and blue after about 40 minutes. With the PMP though, I get a sharp pain on the part right before the ridge of the top of ky penis so I can't wear it for more than an hour without too much pain. Given what I know so far, I would think it would be more beneficial to extend with the X4 if I'm getting more stretch for about the same amount of time. I'm gonna keep tweaking and see....in the meanwhile, I just wanted to share.
 
The reason is the penis master rod extender only goes up to 1100 grams the 4x goes up to 1800 grams SG I think goes up to 1500 you can go to auto extender like I did and get even heavier springs 5 lb =2268. Grams

1 lb =453.6 grams
2 lb=907.2. grams
3 lb=1360.8 grams
4 lb=1814.4 grams
5 lb=2268. Grams

I can wear my pro for 2 hrs with out to much issue on the first line at 5 lb springs
first line on SG=567grams
Second line 1134 grams
If that helps
 
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Just remember its time over tension. So less tension more time. More tension less time. I have also found that once you hit a certain point I assume it is we're you have created the micro tears you will get more retraction I used to get this when I was using the old head piece with noose and I could not extend as far as I used to. I am assuming it is because at that point as I slept my penis the penis was retracting and healing in that state. I think the main reason this is not an issue is because with the pro we can stretch massive amount of time and DLD SRT method by keeping it extended during sleep has solved the retraction issue.
 
Thanks Diesel. That's a good reminder. I checked the X4 website and their regular springs go up to 1500 grams, but they have the heavy duty ones that they sell that go up to 2100 grams. Or there's always the monkeybar springs like you mentioned. As far as the PMP, I don't thing springs with higher tension would work for me because I have trouble using higher tension on my original springs without too much pain. I've referenced this in prior posts but for the sake of clarity, the pain I have is located right behind the ridge on the top of my penis. It's pretty bad and its causing extra skin to form there which doesnt look so great. The other concern I have is that I have yet to find a post by anyone here on this thread (with the exception of dickleaker) who has experienced actual gains using this device. I'm not saying the thing doesn't work but I am concerned about its true functionality.
 
So my pmp pro arrived about 2 weeks ago, i bought the complete set thinking i wanted to have several options to extend during the day, and completely convinced that the complete set would bring both the pump ball and the hose aplication system... Well lets just say my pmp pro is gathering dust, i regret not taking the rime to see if the complete set came with the hose system, and i regret even more not having ordered it as an accesory in dlds MOS discount with like 32 euros worth in accesories for the pmp pro. It has been impossible for me to put the pmp pro on with just the pump ball system, i hace read the manual, watched the cd with al l the videos, tried diesels technique to put it on and ecrn combining it woth dickleakers tip to leave it insise dor about 30 seconds for the head to expand creating enough vacuum, but to no avail. Ehrn i can finally insert my glans into the unit and wait a bit, they slip out extremely easy ��. I am soo frustrated noe, and still waiting in the meantime for my Hydromax x 30 to arrive...
 
Raf;515890 said:
So my pmp pro arrived about 2 weeks ago, i bought the complete set thinking i wanted to have several options to extend during the day, and completely convinced that the complete set would bring both the pump ball and the hose aplication system... Well lets just say my pmp pro is gathering dust, i regret not taking the rime to see if the complete set came with the hose system, and i regret even more not having ordered it as an accesory in dlds MOS discount with like 32 euros worth in accesories for the pmp pro. It has been impossible for me to put the pmp pro on with just the pump ball system, i hace read the manual, watched the cd with al l the videos, tried diesels technique to put it on and ecrn combining it woth dickleakers tip to leave it insise dor about 30 seconds for the head to expand creating enough vacuum, but to no avail. Ehrn i can finally insert my glans into the unit and wait a bit, they slip out extremely easy ��. I am soo frustrated noe, and still waiting in the meantime for my Hydromax x 30 to arrive...

When you get your glans in and the pump ball no longer inflates back up, keep squeezing the pump to try to fight and work more air back in for another pump. If all else fails seriously just order the hose kit it's amazingly easy, effective, and time efficient.
 
Here's a very useful piece of information for PMP owners:

I use the hose attachment. The other day, my PMP stopped working. It would not keep suction, and my penis would come out of the PMP head after like 10 minutes. I assumed it was probably a leak in the hose that is attached to the PMP head because the sluice and diaphragm were relatively new. But when I tested it out without my penis in it, it still gave enough suction to suck the diaphragm back and hold, so I decided to test it out.

I changed the sluice, because the existing sluice was becoming ratty. Still happened. So I changed the diaphragm. Still happened. So then I knew it for sure that it indeed had to be the valve that screws onto the PMP head piece. I looked at the PMP head piece for cracks, and determined that it was in good condition.

So after two days of messing around with it, a tear in the hose finally became visible. At first, there was no visible tear, so I was not completely sure it was the hose.

At first, I was pissed, because I assumed I would have to wait for a new valve piece to be sent to me under warranty. But then I noticed that the small hose piece that gets plugged up by the stopper can actually be taken off the valve. So I took it off and threw it away.

I noticed that the attachment hose is the exact same diameter, so I placed the end that didn't have the pin in it onto the metal nub of the valve, cut an appropriate length from my attachment hose and it was all fixed.

I've probably had the PMP for over 3-4 months now, but to be fair, I take it off and on a lot throughout the day and I wear it under my pants at work, so it does get a ton of wear. It's good that I can fix the hose piece myself once it tears on the PMP head, but I realize eventually the attachment hose is going to be too short for me to use it to put on the PMP head.

Luckily, the pin for the attachment hose also comes out, so if I can find a store that carries that material of hose and same diameter, I can just easily replace the hose myself without having to deal with the company and wait for a replacement to be sent. I am sure a foot of that hose would cost me 50 cents.

Maybe I could find it at a plumbing store or something. Not sure what that type of hose would be used for in industry. Any guesses from anyone?

Well, hopefully this helps someone out if they encounter the same problem I had: loss of suction from the PMP using the hose kit.
 
ColeParmer, McMaster- Carr, Amazon, and google for rubber or pvc tubing. You'll need to get out your ruler & measure that green hose, and be prepared to buy a roll.

specs:
Hose application system
(Item no. ZPMP-002 - accessories)
Diameter: 3mm
Length: 500mm
Weight: approx. 12g
Material: metal, plastic (PVC)
 
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Dangler;515947 said:
ColeParmer, McMaster- Carr, Amazon, and google for rubber or pvc tubing. You'll need to get out your ruler & measure that green hose, and be prepared to buy a roll.

specs:
Hose application system
(Item no. ZPMP-002 - accessories)
Diameter: 3mm
Length: 500mm
Weight: approx. 12g
Material: metal, plastic (PVC)

Wonderful, thank you Dangler
 
How long does the lube last? And is there another type of lube that works well with the sliuces, diaphrams, etc.
 
Another thing to my fellow canadians who've ordered this: did you have to pay duty on this when it arrived? if so how much and what if anything did it say about the contents of the package on the box?
 
magicjohnson;517521 said:
Another thing to my fellow canadians who've ordered this: did you have to pay duty on this when it arrived? if so how much and what if anything did it say about the contents of the package on the box?

I don't recall having to. It was discrete.
 
Just ordered the upgrade kit.

I really hope this is all it's cracked up to be. I've tried every other way of extending from the noose to the comfort strap, to the velcro strap to the vlc tugger and all of them felt so uncomfortable to me that i didn't get any results.
 
magicjohnson;517721 said:
Just ordered the upgrade kit.

I really hope this is all it's cracked up to be. I've tried every other way of extending from the noose to the comfort strap, to the velcro strap to the vlc tugger and all of them felt so uncomfortable to me that i didn't get any results.

It's quite comfortable but I think there may be issues with losing suction and a bit of slippage. However, if you use the hose attachment and make the suction very strong there should not be much slippage.
 
CaptainCaveman;515713 said:
Thanks Diesel. That's a good reminder. I checked the X4 website and their regular springs go up to 1500 grams, but they have the heavy duty ones that they sell that go up to 2100 grams. Or there's always the monkeybar springs like you mentioned. As far as the PMP, I don't thing springs with higher tension would work for me because I have trouble using higher tension on my original springs without too much pain. I've referenced this in prior posts but for the sake of clarity, the pain I have is located right behind the ridge on the top of my penis. It's pretty bad and its causing extra skin to form there which doesnt look so great. The other concern I have is that I have yet to find a post by anyone here on this thread (with the exception of dickleaker) who has experienced actual gains using this device. I'm not saying the thing doesn't work but I am concerned about its true functionality.

hey captain caveman sorry to hear your having so many issues I'm not rally sure what to say other then maybe extending isn't your thing if your having pain at low tension rates. as for results i have made 95% of all my gains from extenders i started at bpel 6 now will as off 6 months ago when i measured i was 7.5 to 7.75 bpel depending on erection level. max i have ever been was 7.75 i won't measure till right after the new year.

im wondering why your getting skin growth behind glands are you putting to much suction and getting extra skin in the head piece? the reason i say this is that the head should be the only thing in the head piece and and the sluice is what helps keep the skin out but with to much tension you will trap extra skin inside the head piece. causing fluid build up and bunch up skin. i just don't get why else you would have skin growing only behind the shaft?
 
MikeShlort;517732 said:
It's quite comfortable but I think there may be issues with losing suction and a bit of slippage. However, if you use the hose attachment and make the suction very strong there should not be much slippage.

I ordered the hose attachment with it. Damn, I'm pretty excited about this. I have a feeling this is gonna be way more effective for me than everything else I've tried. 8 inches here I come.
 
magicjohnson;517886 said:
I ordered the hose attachment with it. Damn, I'm pretty excited about this. I have a feeling this is gonna be way more effective for me than everything else I've tried. 8 inches here I come.

Don't even bother with the pump ball unless you just want to for shits and giggles, the hose attachment reigns supreme. Make sure you play around with it for a while, different vacuum pressures and everything don't get discouraged by negative things you read on here. If there's a will there's a way and we all find our way at different times.
 
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