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CaptainCaveman · May 3, 2012

I need to explain my last post. I understand that everyone should have a way to measure. A ruler is all it takes. My question had more to do with timing. I was wondering how long do you take before you measure your gains or lack thereof. I ask because I'm thinking that 7 months is a long way to go without knowing whether something needs to be tweaked or not.

fonic · May 3, 2012

Dangler;481273 said:
I thought about your 7 months ordeal. I would encourage you to research deconditioning here, the pegym, thundersplace, and determine just how long a break you ought to do. I've read where some have undergone a couple weeks to a month. If you don't make it long enough, the break that is, you may be setting yourself up for "no progress".
I've been doing breaks regularly, since I hit my first plateau in year 1.
Good luck, now go do your homework, lol.

i agree you could be on to something here, been over three years now I've been extending, pumping, or hanging weights with little to no rest inbetween, thats been my winning formula for the first couple of years

now in the last year its ground to a halt, not through lack off effort, just damn stubborn dick not doing what its told anymore ha ill research the plateau breaks and see whats going to suit me and what

makes sense, its hard getting your head around the fact if extending its all about cell growth, so why would that need rest, colour me puzzled!

@ dangler- ill make sure i do my homework on time, i want that gold star lol

@ caveman- thanks man- ill be back!

Dangler · May 3, 2012

CaptainCaveman;481275 said:
Dangler,
When you said that you took a break after a plateau, how did you go about determining that you were no longer gaining? Do you have a specific method for checking your measurements?

I used to measure once every 4 - 5 weeks, also used to measure how far I was extended length. If I had 2 - 3 months with next to nothing, I would change something. I accepted aprox. 0.18 to 0.22 inches per month, as a long term average, over several months, as what I was expecting.
Some months better than others, I just wanted to NOT react too soon. It is a waiting game.
I would mix in hand stretching, jelqing, use of an xsleeve (autoextender.com device), pumping, vary what I was mixing in. Oh, and just put all the paraphernalia aside and take a week off every now & then.
There are for me, just some periods of time, that not much happens.

@fonic, I read you have hanging in your past endeavors. Yes that would have resulted in one toughened set of ligament(s).
Some hangers simply use the extender, to just hold the penis stretched out, ADS, and still rely on hanging. I have not followed their progress in regards to plateaus/increasing weight loads. I'd guess it become more difficult to adjust the routine, more moving pieces to tweek.

Dickleaker · May 3, 2012

Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.

For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort

all the best to you my Scottish Bro

fonic;481303 said:
i agree you could be on to something here, been over three years now I've been extending, pumping, or hanging weights with little to no rest inbetween, thats been my winning formula for the first couple of years

now in the last year its ground to a halt, not through lack off effort, just damn stubborn dick not doing what its told anymore ha ill research the plateau breaks and see whats going to suit me and what

makes sense, its hard getting your head around the fact if extending its all about cell growth, so why would that need rest, colour me puzzled!

@ dangler- ill make sure i do my homework on time, i want that gold star lol

@ caveman- thanks man- ill be back!

fonic · May 3, 2012

Dickleaker;481323 said:
Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.

For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort

Thanks dickleaker, to my rescue as usual, got plenty time on my hands just now so have no excuses but to read up on your provided info,

i'm actually quite intrigued to see when i come back if this whole decon break works and kickstarts newbie gains again.

any ideas for a hobby in the meantime, and btw where will i get a vibrator from don't exactly have one lying around, a could use a makeshift one though a got in the monkey spanker!

im4u89 · May 4, 2012

Will the affiliate program with pmp be posted at some point? Desperatley need one.

CaptainCaveman · May 4, 2012

So Dangler, given how you tend to measure monthly, have you seen any gains using the pmp? I think Tue only person I've heard of who's actually had some results from this device is Dickleaker. It would be nice to know there's more out there.

Dangler · May 4, 2012

CaptainCaveman;481532 said:
So Dangler, given how you tend to measure monthly, have you seen any gains using the pmp? I think Tue only person I've heard of who's actually had some results from this device is Dickleaker. It would be nice to know there's more out there.

not yet, only at the 2 month mark, but I like the flaccid increase.

Dangler · May 4, 2012

OK, so I take rest days.

I thought while resting the penis shaft, I could still do something with the Glans.
So, I just put myself into the chamber, mild to light vacuum, and leave out the extender/straps.
I get a decent "head swell", and on a day off, I get to let the rest of the penis have a rest day !

I had toyed with a special cylinder/fixture for glans pumping, but this will do the job nicely !

CaptainCaveman · May 4, 2012

Good going Dangler. I don't know how you can resist measuring for that long. But I sure hope you get a nice surprise when you do. Please keep us informed.
By the way, I took note of what you said before about resting for a few days until the itching and puffiness goes away. It took about 2 days and I was back to normal. But then I started again last night and the itchiness came back. I wonder if it has anything to do with the lotion? Anyways, I'll keep changing things up until I get a better hang of it.

Dickleaker · May 5, 2012

Hey Fonic,

Gonna help you get to 8! I won't give up if you don't

Grow some marijuana.

If you lost your vibrator ,you can also use a heating pad at the base of your cock.

fonic;481391 said:
Dickleaker;481323 said:

Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.

For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort

Thanks dickleaker, to my rescue as usual, got plenty time on my hands just now so have no excuses but to read up on your provided info,

i'm actually quite intrigued to see when i come back if this whole decon break works and kickstarts newbie gains again.

any ideas for a hobby in the meantime, and btw where will i get a vibrator from don't exactly have one lying around, a could use a makeshift one though a got in the monkey spanker!

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tparker84 · May 5, 2012

I cant find my heating pad but i will be getting another one going for 8 as well

8incyclops · May 6, 2012

doublelongdaddy;480898 said:
I should hear from him today. They are programming our package and it will be available as soon as they are done. I can't wait!!!

Any news? Dld is this discount still going to be on?

Dangler · May 7, 2012

latest parts order: on 4/23 to received 5/7

8incyclops · May 8, 2012

I might just order from there site it's taking to long here

DLD · May 8, 2012

8incyclops;481647 said:
Any news? Dld is this discount still going to be on?

Still waiting on him. He mentioned that they have depleted their stock and were waiting on a new shipment of stock, this may have something to do with it. I will send him another message today and see where the status is.

Coppershot · May 9, 2012

Any members getting results/gains from using the pm pro. Include hours per day or total hours in.
Also any gainers with the belt option. I interested in this option since I plan to use this primary when I decide to purchase it. (Holding out for the MOS discount)

8incyclops · May 10, 2012

Do you guys use the belt system??? It looks like you can just go out and buy something similar that will hold the suction cup in place instead of paying for it.

Coppershot · May 10, 2012

8incyclops ,I thought about buying a 1 1/2" or 2" heavy duty elastic bands and using suspenders clippers. Then making something to attach it to the suction cup. This would bring the cost down by alot. I dont own the device as yet. Just a theory.
Or keep it simple and use a leg strap and some rubber bands. I did this in the past with my captn wench.

Dickleaker · May 10, 2012

I use this leg strap from tlc tugger

http://tlctugger.com/prodTLC.htm#straps

They are $7

8incyclops;482100 said:
Do you guys use the belt system??? It looks like you can just go out and buy something similar that will hold the suction cup in place instead of paying for it.

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