shortdick;623582 said:
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it should do. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s gave me good gains in a short period of time, so when i start again i aim to gain 0.3+ inch in less than a month, which i think is possible. try the combination, it works so well
 
jordey;623252 said:
ok so i measured last night, im currently at 7.2 nbp X 5.2 mseg (bone pressed is at 7.75). quite happy with this as i though i had lots a fair bit of length and girth, when really my length has pretty much stayed the same, and girth only went down by 0.15 inch. considering this im gonna change my short term goals a bit (as i thought i was smaller than i am). current short term goals by the end of this year: 7.45 nbp x 5.6 mseg. (should bring me up to 8 inches bp). this is 0.25 x 0.4inch in 3 and a half weeks, which i think i can do. i previously gained 0.15x 0.3 inch in the same amount of time, and this was with less stetching aswell as difficulties with my old [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. i think i can get to the girth goal, length will likely be trickier but im more interested in girth so im fine with that. tomorrow is the day i start again properly! tonight ill just do some light pumping in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] to get prepared again, and maybe a little clamping and stretching after

great to hear jordey. hope you get to you end of year goals :)
 
shortdick;623582 said:
bathmate can help me to get real gains and would be much better if i mix it whit [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] or some other exercise...

yes many men miz [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s and jelqs in with their [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] use to get better results
 
I myself am currently 7.5 inches BPEL, but I have a huge fat pad so my NBPEL isn't too great. Why do I get the feeling that most guys are between 7 and 8 inches? I noticed you are between 7 and 8 yourself and I've noticed it a lot on this forum, it is just kind of confusing because isn't average supposed to be a bit lower?
 
boohoohoo;623666 said:
I myself am currently 7.5 inches BPEL, but I have a huge fat pad so my NBPEL isn't too great. Why do I get the feeling that most guys are between 7 and 8 inches? I noticed you are between 7 and 8 yourself and I've noticed it a lot on this forum, it is just kind of confusing because isn't average supposed to be a bit lower?

a fair amount of guys on here ive seen are around 7 inches BPEL, but most of these are guys who have gained. ive seen a fair few guys also around the 6 inch mark for bpel which is near average. not many guys below this, but i just think this is more down to smaller guys not wanting to disclose their size and bigger or average guys being more comfortable with it. guys on here aswell also represent a small amount of the population. these sizes are also bone pressed, so many could have large fat pads. im personally closing in on the 8 inch mark, in the not too distant future i should be over 8 inches bone pressed (only like a quarter of an inch), and 7.5 non bp. the difference between 7 and 8 in length and 5 and 6 in girth is massive
 
youknowme123321;623597 said:
great to hear jordey. hope you get to you end of year goals :)

thanks! i really think its possible, and i know ill be consistent.


little update, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] came! first impressions is that it is alot harder to use than my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]. air kept getting in, and it was hard to position the base properly as its so big. i also had some pain in the pubic bone area when pumped up, i probably just need to get used to it. one thing i noticed is i dont get as big inside the tube compared to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words], but its still as intense. i could only do a few minutes at a time due to the pain around it but i still got a decent workout in, with some [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. very minimal fluid retention, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] gave me loads. after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] i then did about 30 minutes in total of clamping. got some nice temp gains going - 5.6 inch in mid shaft girth, with minimal fluid retention. i then put on a cockring whcih im still wearing, and its holding the pump nicely.

the hiccups im having with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] will likely sort themselves out after a few sessions and as my girth gets bigger
 
I found the same thing when I first started using my pump with the discomfort around the pubic bone, not just the ring digging in but it kinda felt like it was sucking some of my fat pad in there, it will fade with continued use as your body gets accustomed to it.
 
jordey;623725 said:
thanks! i really think its possible, and i know ill be consistent.


little update, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] came! first impressions is that it is alot harder to use than my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]. air kept getting in, and it was hard to position the base properly as its so big. i also had some pain in the pubic bone area when pumped up, i probably just need to get used to it. one thing i noticed is i dont get as big inside the tube compared to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words], but its still as intense. i could only do a few minutes at a time due to the pain around it but i still got a decent workout in, with some [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. very minimal fluid retention, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] gave me loads. after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] i then did about 30 minutes in total of clamping. got some nice temp gains going - 5.6 inch in mid shaft girth, with minimal fluid retention. i then put on a cockring whcih im still wearing, and its holding the pump nicely.

the hiccups im having with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] will likely sort themselves out after a few sessions and as my girth gets bigger

Over time you'll get used to it mate! I was the same in the beginning, but over time I got used to it. :)
 
VoorheesXIII;624164 said:
I found the same thing when I first started using my pump with the discomfort around the pubic bone, not just the ring digging in but it kinda felt like it was sucking some of my fat pad in there, it will fade with continued use as your body gets accustomed to it.

Zambrodom3;624200 said:
Over time you'll get used to it mate! I was the same in the beginning, but over time I got used to it. :)

yeah thats exactly what i think it is voorhees. also the base ring is so bag its difficult just placing it right to fit between my legs! its gonna take a bit of refinement in technique as its completely different to using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words].

zam do you have an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]?


i used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] again yesterday, felt a bit better, getting up to 7.5 inches in the tube (which isnt great, as i was going past 8 inches in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]). i should be able to pump much harder in a few days when i get used to it. i also did 30 blasters and some basic stretching. im gonna step it up a bit today, but essentially will be doing the same thing, maybe some clamping aswell.
 
jordey;624213 said:
yeah thats exactly what i think it is voorhees. also the base ring is so bag its difficult just placing it right to fit between my legs! its gonna take a bit of refinement in technique as its completely different to using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words].

zam do you have an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]?


i used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] again yesterday, felt a bit better, getting up to 7.5 inches in the tube (which isnt great, as i was going past 8 inches in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]). i should be able to pump much harder in a few days when i get used to it. i also did 30 blasters and some basic stretching. im gonna step it up a bit today, but essentially will be doing the same thing, maybe some clamping aswell.

No J man, I have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words], which is the same as the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words], just the size is different. But they are both the same pump- [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] models. :)
 
VoorheesXIII;624164 said:
I found the same thing when I first started using my pump with the discomfort around the pubic bone, not just the ring digging in but it kinda felt like it was sucking some of my fat pad in there, it will fade with continued use as your body gets accustomed to it.

Zambrodom3;624214 said:
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yeah i reckon the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] is probs pretty much the same as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]. i loved mine! the thing with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] is its just huge! it takes up pretty much the whole pubic region; i have to spread my legs a fair bit just to get it seated right. also because of the gator design with insert, aswell as the size of it i have to be very careful with not letting air in. plus the lock mechanism is a little fiddly aswell. its taking a bit of getting used to, but im getting there! last nights session was decent, tonights should be good.

ive only used it twice so far but i got around 0.4 inch of expansion both times, with very little fluid retention. with my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] i was getting over 6 inches in girth, once close to 6.2 inches, which was about a 0.85 inch temp gain. however, i was also getting alot of fluid retention, so i have no idea how much of that temp gain was expansion and how much was fluid. if i can work up to getting 0.6 inches in temp expansion with not much fr in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], i think it will be a good sign
 
jordey;624226 said:
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ive only used it twice so far but i got around 0.4 inch of expansion both times, with very little fluid retention. with my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] i was getting over 6 inches in girth, once close to 6.2 inches, which was about a 0.85 inch temp gain. however, i was also getting alot of fluid retention, so i have no idea how much of that temp gain was expansion and how much was fluid. if i can work up to getting 0.6 inches in temp expansion with not much fr in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], i think it will be a good sign

Hmm... Well [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] is more like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] since they are both [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] models. And the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] is like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] since they are [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] models.

Yes, I see what bothers you, I see no reason for this though.. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] (the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] models) are more intense than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] models and therefore should give you better expansion. Are you sure there is something you're not doing wrong..? :)
 
jordey;624226 said:
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ive only used it twice so far but i got around 0.4 inch of expansion both times, with very little fluid retention. with my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] i was getting over 6 inches in girth, once close to 6.2 inches, which was about a 0.85 inch temp gain. however, i was also getting alot of fluid retention, so i have no idea how much of that temp gain was expansion and how much was fluid. if i can work up to getting 0.6 inches in temp expansion with not much fr in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], i think it will be a good sign

it'll only get better as you become more accustomed to it. if you were dedicated with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] it wont be long till you having success with this
 
Zambrodom3;624230 said:
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Yes, I see what bothers you, I see no reason for this though.. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] (the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] models) are more intense than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] models and therefore should give you better expansion. Are you sure there is something you're not doing wrong..? :)

yeah but the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] are pretty much the same size so theyre probs alot similar than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words]. the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] dwarfs the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]!

as for the pressure im getting, i think alot of it is down to the difference in gator design (the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] compressed more), aswell as the fact that i was close to the limits of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] so the suction was greater.. the difference also is only like half an inch. when i get a bit mroe used to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and get reconditioned for pumping i should hit 8 inch in the tube in no time! im guessing a week or two, and then the goal from there would be 8 and a half rofl
 
youknowme123321;624250 said:
it'll only get better as you become more accustomed to it. if you were dedicated with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] it wont be long till you having success with this

yeah exactly, and i remember having a few issues with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] when first using it so its probs just the same. i will no doubt be consistent! these past few months ive been more consistent than ive ever been and im getting results from it. tonight will be my third night using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], ill use it every day till i feel i need a break. also gonna do a little clamping aswell tonight
 
jordey;623725 said:
thanks! i really think its possible, and i know ill be consistent.


little update, my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] came! first impressions is that it is alot harder to use than my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words]. air kept getting in, and it was hard to position the base properly as its so big. i also had some pain in the pubic bone area when pumped up, i probably just need to get used to it. one thing i noticed is i dont get as big inside the tube compared to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words], but its still as intense. i could only do a few minutes at a time due to the pain around it but i still got a decent workout in, with some [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. very minimal fluid retention, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] gave me loads. after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] i then did about 30 minutes in total of clamping. got some nice temp gains going - 5.6 inch in mid shaft girth, with minimal fluid retention. i then put on a cockring whcih im still wearing, and its holding the pump nicely.

the hiccups im having with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] will likely sort themselves out after a few sessions and as my girth gets bigger

how many time have you used it
 
youknowme123321;624263 said:
how many time have you used it

only twice, for about an hour in total trying to get it sitting right. tonight will be the third, ill likely be on and off for half an hour, should be a good session
 
jordey;624251 said:
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as for the pressure im getting, i think alot of it is down to the difference in gator design (the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] compressed more), aswell as the fact that i was close to the limits of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] so the suction was greater.. the difference also is only like half an inch. when i get a bit mroe used to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and get reconditioned for pumping i should hit 8 inch in the tube in no time! im guessing a week or two, and then the goal from there would be 8 and a half rofl

Hmm, why don't you try getting some pumping sleeves? Many people say they really help them get better pumping sessions. :)
 
jordey;624253 said:
yeah exactly, and i remember having a few issues with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] when first using it so its probs just the same. i will no doubt be consistent! these past few months ive been more consistent than ive ever been and im getting results from it. tonight will be my third night using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words], ill use it every day till i feel i need a break. also gonna do a little clamping aswell tonight

I am glad you already have the experience of knowing that it takes time to learn something new. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] is a great pump and with practice you will make incredible gains. Good luck on your next session and remember to be patient with yourself.
 
Zambrodom3;624333 said:
Hmm, why don't you try getting some pumping sleeves? Many people say they really help them get better pumping sessions. :)

yeah i already have one, i dont use it though as it is very annoying. its difficult to use and not needed with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] given the gator design

doublelongdaddy;624475 said:
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its getting better with every use. tonight should be a good session, every session im getting a better workout as im getting more used to it
 
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