markj911 said:
Magnesium -2,37
Aluminium -1,66
Zinc -0,763
Iron -0,44
Tin -0,14
Copper +0,337 or +0,521 (depending on the form of the chemical reaction)
Carbon (Coal) +0,74
Silver +0,799

One way to find out if zinc is causing the testosterone increase rather than the galvanic effect would be to switch to another metal. As you can see a silver/Magnesium ROP has a galvanic potential of 3.6V versus the 1.1V of the copper/zinc choice. Hmmm....and you thought it tingled before...Aluminum is an excellent choice because it has over twice the theoretical capability of zinc and is readily available. So I am going to try a copper-aluminum ROP first and see of there is an effect, without taking any zinc supplements except for the occasional oysters ;) I have made a copper-zinc ROP using the pure zinc rod from mcmasters but will wait on using it for a few weeks. I have not worn it yet.

not sure if you want to use aluminum bro. it is a toxic metal...try something else.

fiddler
 
markj911 said:
So if you are right Cyclops that the galvanic effect is causing the zinc ions to migrate in, then increasing the voltage should increase the migration. Using the galvanic potential material list I had in my previous thread, Silver would almost double the potential. I looked on the web for silver foil and found

http://www.pinzart.com/catalog/enamel-s11.html

They sell sheets of pure silver that could be wrapped around the copper rod using pressure sensitive adhesive (double sided tape). I am curious to see what effect it may have on the ROP. If it is really the zinc I guess I'll bag the idea of trying an aluminum based ROP. I checked with some engineers here at work and they said that foil would have the same performance as a solid rod. It just would not last as long. But length of service for an ROP versus a corrosion inhibitor on a sea going boat is not comparable. The foil will last just fine for this application and if it were to wear out, a new layer of foil could be added. Also, since the silver foil is key and the base material is not important, one could use a much lighter material like a 1/4" polyethylene tube. This would mean the heavier bar is on the bottom making it easier to stay in position. Further the lighter the whole ROP, the less strain on the latex tubing which loosens over time.

silver is much better. it is actually an antibiotic when ionic so you will never have to worry about bacterial infections around your package. good deal.

fiddler
 
while other metals may give off more voltage, the voltage isnt the important part of this. The Zn+2 ions passing through the "battery" are the important part of the ROP. While not all of those ions pass through your testicles, the some that do are the reason the ROP works the way it does. Zn+2 ions aid in the production of testosterone.

AncientChina told this to me on the 38th page
<i>I recomment that you make just a standard ROP, the one most common here. Firstly its not exactly the volate/current that gives the ROP test rising abilities, its the fact that Zinc Ions will partially be passing through and by your testicals your body's main production source of male hormones like testoserone. So if you used different metals say silver and copper or whatever, it really would not have as much of an effect at all. People who also want to raise their test naturally take supplments like ZMA, Zinc is the main ingredient in that.</i>

I too thought that the voltage was the importanat part or the ROP, so i suggested maybe using metals that produce more. Then i was told that the zinc is the reason why this works, so just look for those posts.
 
bkkorps,

Good explanation of the total process that's going on. Measuring the voltage is just to check if the ROP is working, because if there is no current there will pass no ions.

Yves
 
Current is the most important cause its what moves the volts
 
bkkorps said:
The Zn+2 ions passing through the "battery" are the important part of the ROP.

interesting.

but why does 0.8 volts work better than say 0.4 volts?

and has anybody tried a ring with two metals other than zinc to verify this?
 
Yves said:
bkkorps,

Good explanation of the total process that's going on. Measuring the voltage is just to check if the ROP is working, because if there is no current there will pass no ions.

Yves

Is there a way that the ROP wont have any current running through? like something that the ROP could come in contact with to make it not work so to speak?
 
Tezta said:
Is there a way that the ROP wont have any current running through? like something that the ROP could come in contact with to make it not work so to speak?

Hey Tezta,

If you isolate the metal rods, for instance if you have a lot of hair at the places where the rods should make contact with your skin. Or if the rods are really dirty due to oxidation. In these case the current will be very low and low current means less Zn 2+ ions will pass your body.

Yves
 
jody said:
interesting.

but why does 0.8 volts work better than say 0.4 volts?

and has anybody tried a ring with two metals other than zinc to verify this?

higher voltage means more ions are flowing. more zinc into your system. obviously you also don't want too much but with a simple galvanic cell you don't have to worry about that, just don't hook a 9V battery up to the thing to "help" it along.

fiddler
 
I made my ROP using the zinc rod from McMasters and turned it down on a lathe to get it to 1/4" in diameter instead of 3/8". I did this to reduce weight. I started of using a copper rod but switched to the 1/4" plastic rod wrapped with pure silver foil. Again to reduce weight and the silver to increase the voltage. It generates about volt. I have noticed something interesting though. When I was wearing the copper rod, I would get these tiny red sores under the copper rod. Also there was a tingling sensation. Since changing to the silver rod, the tingling has gone away and the red sores went as well. I think that the tingling and the sores were because of a reaction to the copper and had nothing to do with the voltage that was created. My $0.02...
 
i wonder if your design will work. we may be on the verge of a new era in ring design. lighter, higher voltage, more ions, less side effects.

also, would this work with piercings? say you have two minor piercings on your scrotum and you place one silver and one zinc ring in them. would that create the circuit with enough voltage?
 
I will bring the parts of the 2 ROPs into work and weigh them to give an idea on how much weight has come off. I have no clue on the piercings as I thought they were made out of stainless steel.
 
jody said:
i wonder if your design will work. we may be on the verge of a new era in ring design. lighter, higher voltage, more ions, less side effects.

also, would this work with piercings? say you have two minor piercings on your scrotum and you place one silver and one zinc ring in them. would that create the circuit with enough voltage?

I've been wondering the same thing. I want to have a couple of hafada piercings and I think it would be so cool to have zinc and copper rings hanging from them, but especially if the benefits are the same as the ring. I just don't see how they would generate a current.

Anyone who already has piercings given this a try?
 
Ring of power for your ears!! Never thought about that, talk to Girthius, he thinks if you wrap one around your head it will make your hair grow
 
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