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What am I doing wrong if I get fluid buildup? I squeeze the pump ball almost all the way, attach & twist, squeeze to pump air in, then release to draw the glans in, but I have to use the pump ball several times to get fully into the glans chamber. I've tried using one of the adapters and I can get into it, so I can try doing that, but I don't know if that affects fluid. I'm used to using the x4 with 2100g springs, so this feels like nothing and although I can wear it longer, I don't know how much I can gain from such a light stretch having done much more intense forms of Penis Enlargement. I might be doing something wrong because my length in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is more than an inch less than my BPFSL.
 
Hi Baba Booey,
I have the problem with fluid build up also. It's pretty frustrating. I have noticed that limiting the suction to my glans alone, without having my shaft get in there helps. Also, using those adaptors allows me to use less suction to keep my glans locked in. Lastly, I find that an adequate amount of gel is important to get the glans in without having to use too much vacuum. So many variables here make it for a steep learning curve.
 
Baba_Booey,

how long are you trying to wear this for, before you remove it & see fluid build up, also, do you have a foreskin/frenulum area where this occurs at ?

As an alternative, you can try to force more of your glans into the chamber with the first pump, then pump again, and try to push/jelq more glans in. You may try using a bit more lube so that it slides in easier. At one point I was using nothing but vacuum to pull me into the chamber, however, as you see, there is a downside.
You can try merging the X4 base, springs, rods with the end assembly from the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], your call.
I know from reading [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]'s instructions, their rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] goes up to 1150g, and from their research, that ought to be enough. Now, you say " this feels like nothing", I can understand.
I always go by grams (objective measurement), never by "feel" (which is very subjective), because I've found that I can get used to/deaf to, the pull , and end up using an amount that is non-productive or not optimum.
May I recommend, you go with about 1000g on the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words], and work out the fluid buildup issue first. Maybe allow a couple of months to see how things go. I will also point out that high grams of pull can also contribute to fluid build up. Another variable can be how much or how little you are inserted into the chamber. You can experiment.
Lastly, I am much better off if I only do 1.5 hrs versus 3.0 hrs; what fluid build up I get, goes away much quicker that way. I tried a 4 hour session once, and it was too much for my frenulum/skin.
Good luck, most need to tweek their procedures/method of use anyway.
 
The fluid buildup isn't actually my main concern. It wasn't that bad and it's most likely because I wore the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] for 3 hours without prior conditioning.

My main concern is that I can't stretch that far. My BPFSL is between 8.75"-9" after hard stretching, but I can't even get to 7.75" in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and I'm using roughly 800 grams. I might be doing something wrong though because the video shows hanging 15 lbs with the glans chamber, and I think mine would slip using much less weight. If I can't stretch past this point then I don't see much potential gains from this even if I wore it most of the day.

If I wanted more tension I would use different springs because I like to make sure that the springs aren't fully compressed With any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], if the springs are fully compressed, you don't have any extra space for when you might retract due to movement. If your springs are fully compressed and you retract from movement (like squatting) there will be a lot of pressure at the attachment point and in the case of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] you will probably slowly pull out of the glans chamber.

It seems to me like it would be a good idea for the company to improve the product by making glans chambers out of clear plastic so that you can see what's going on inside. It might fog up from body heat but it would at least be good for attachment.
 
For everyone that uses this, how does your length in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] compare to your BPenis EnlargementL & BPFSL? In the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], I'm close to my BPenis EnlargementL, but more than an inch less than my BPFSL.
 
I dont stretch as far as I do with my velcro mod but what I do notice is when I take the glands chamber off I feel it more internally vs then if I wore the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the velcro mod what I do is 2-3 sets for 2-3 hours velcro mod then basically to kill more time for comfort the gland attachment but its not as far but really pulls internally
 
Well its hard to see where my penis is in this thing but i basically stretch a little past my erect length but non boned pressed because im unsure how far to go because trying to keep the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] in mind and going for more hours then intensity
Baba_Booey;480506 said:
For everyone that uses this, how does your length in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] compare to your BPenis EnlargementL & BPFSL? In the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], I'm close to my BPenis EnlargementL, but more than an inch less than my BPFSL.
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Hey guys, an idea just popped into mind. What do you guys think about wearing a condom and using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I haven't tried it but I wonder if it would give some added protection against fluid buildup...Hydromaxmm
 
CaptainCaveman;480534 said:
Hey guys, an idea just popped into mind. What do you guys think about wearing a condom and using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I haven't tried it but I wonder if it would give some added protection against fluid buildup...Hydromaxmm
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I tried an un-lubricated condom, but it came off in record time. Your mileage may vary.
 
I sold my original [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], but bought another one and I'm glad I did because it's really comfortable and I'm going to try the low tension long hours approach.

With my first set, all of the diaphragms looked about the same size and when they were on the glans chamber they were tight (looked like a drum). With the new set that I got yesterday, the diaphragm that came on the chamber was tight, but the spare ones are quite a bit bigger and aren't smooth when they are on the chamber. The sluices are the same size (I didn't get the XLs) and there is no mention of different sized diaphragms on the website.

I'm thinking that this may have been a change they made with the design, either that or they had a batch that came out too big. It seems like the tighter design would work better to minimize the amount of air in the chamber, and therefore reduce fluid buildup, but the larger ones would make t easier to get into.

Has anyone else ordered recently and gotten these larger diaphragms?
 
I didn't order any but I sent them an email yesterday about the larger ones and they do have them on the site was thinking bout ordering them but I have so many of the regular ones but I don't want to wait forever to get them lol but when I order I hope it helps ease that 3-5 second pain coming out the glands chamber
Baba_Booey;480563 said:
I sold my original [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], but bought another one and I'm glad I did because it's really comfortable and I'm going to try the low tension long hours approach.

With my first set, all of the diaphragms looked about the same size and when they were on the glans chamber they were tight (looked like a drum). With the new set that I got yesterday, the diaphragm that came on the chamber was tight, but the spare ones are quite a bit bigger and aren't smooth when they are on the chamber. The sluices are the same size (I didn't get the XLs) and there is no mention of different sized diaphragms on the website.

I'm thinking that this may have been a change they made with the design, either that or they had a batch that came out too big. It seems like the tighter design would work better to minimize the amount of air in the chamber, and therefore reduce fluid buildup, but the larger ones would make t easier to get into.

Has anyone else ordered recently and gotten these larger diaphragms?
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@tparker84 I know they have the XL sluices on the website, but I'm talking about larger diaphragms. The site only lists that there is 1 size for diaphragms, but I've had 2 different sizes. It seems that now they are making larger ones to replace the older, smaller ones.

Since you can't see through the glans chamber, I measured up to the circumcision scar while manually stretching and compared it to in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and it's less than 1/2" difference, so I'm stretching further than I thought.
 
I asked for a free sample XL sluice, but never got a reply. i used conventional email to the help desk, might have had better luck using the web page contact form. A couple weeks of waiting
and ordered 3 bags of the xl sluices. I am ok with the diaphragms I've got.
I can deal with the 3-5 seconds of discomfort when leaving the chamber, but at least i can compare one to the other.

@Baba_Booey way to go on figuring out a way to do the measuring to your circ scar. Did not know you had a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] & sold it,only to buy a 2nd. Dittos on the comfort !
 
Dangler,
So you used the condom while using the diaphragm and sleuce or did you use it hy itself?

Bababooey,
I ordered the xl sleuces and diaphragm (haven't tried it on for size yet) but both seem to be larger than the regular sized ones.
 
Put on the condom, just a bit of lube on the sluice, diaphragm in place.
I believe the vacuum began to pull the condom off & I ended the experiment. Unwilling to use a condom w/ erection & then try to enter the chamber.
 
I've noticed they only do one size diaphragm now, i don't notice any difference when using the newer size of these, also I've tried and tried using the xl sluice but they are too big

as soon as any tension gets put on its just slips off, i wish there was an in-between size, very easy for air to get in to chamber with the xl, if it worked it would take comfort to a new level,

a small size increase to the standard sluice and i would have been delighted, maybe in future the sluices will be made with more sizes available.
 
Write them I have several times they said If they recieve enough feedback they will adjust again. I suggested a modification to the standard at the application ends of gthe sluice ( glans chamber and sluice ring) , making it the size of theXL but, not changing the internal diameter . The second was another size inbetween the standard and the XL but , without the XL we would have not known how much of a difference it would make .
 
aaaahhhhhhhh the wait is killing me. im itching to get one of these since i have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] sitting around that i never use due to comfort issues.
 
I should hear from him today. They are programming our package and it will be available as soon as they are done. I can't wait!!!
 
So does this mean your alliancing as a promoter for Penis Master Pro??? I have researched this product and it seems VERY impressive for comfort reasons!!!!
 
Hey guys,
So I'm pretty tired of walking around with a stinky, puffy, itchy penis. I know its all for a good cause but I'm hoping I can without he side effects. Oh, and my urethra feels uncomfortable. I posted about this a little bit ago and some of you mentioned that it had to do with either too much suction or tension. The problem is that I'm having a difficult time adjusting the vacuum and how much of my shaft gets sucked in. The glans chamber is moody and seems to take different lengths of my shaft when it wishes. I am using the suction ball now. Do you guys know if using the hose makes a whole lot of difference in the amount of control you have over the vacuum?
 
I'd vote that you solve the itchy problem first. It may be the skin area is irritated and you simply may need to take 3 or 4 days off & let things recover. This may be a case where you have been way too ambitious, like going many hours day after day after day, with no rest time sprinkled in there. I don't know, as you don't say what kind of wearing patterns/schedule you have been doing, or rest breaks, days off, tension used.

As far as the hose, I've seen a few posts where some just love it. I would think it lets you "fine tune" the vacuum, whenever you determine it needs it, and do it easier than the squeeze bulb.
 
I've been using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] for 2-4 a day, with 5 minute breaks every hour and the tension set at the 2nd to last line. What seems to vary though, as I mentioned above, is how much of my shaft gets sucked into Tue sleuce ring. Hope this gives a better idea of my regimen.
 
I do 2 to 3 hrs, with 2-3 hrs break in between, I also run with just two lines showing.
When I dismount, I massage to help any puffiness subside, and usually wait until it is all normal looking. A 3 hr session will take longer for skin to return to normal than if I had done a 2 hour session.
Your 1 hr sessions seem reasonable, however you may experiment with a 15 - 20 minute break.
If you are able to not let the vacuum do all of the work, but instead use a lower vacuum, and work at helping to push your dick into the sluice, kind of assisting the vacuum. If an extra pump is required, then do that.
I create a "medium" vacuum, using a couple of fingers, I milk/jelq the shaft into the sluice, helping push the glans in.
In this way, you will have a little better control of the amount of shaft inserted.
Just try to vary one thing at a time, and see how things go.
 
Dangler;481044 said:
I do 2 to 3 hrs, with 2-3 hrs break in between, I also run with just two lines showing.
When I dismount, I massage to help any puffiness subside, and usually wait until it is all normal looking. A 3 hr session will take longer for skin to return to normal than if I had done a 2 hour session.
Your 1 hr sessions seem reasonable, however you may experiment with a 15 - 20 minute break.
If you are able to not let the vacuum do all of the work, but instead use a lower vacuum, and work at helping to push your dick into the sluice, kind of assisting the vacuum. If an extra pump is required, then do that.
I create a "medium" vacuum, using a couple of fingers, I milk/jelq the shaft into the sluice, helping push the glans in.
In this way, you will have a little better control of the amount of shaft inserted.
Just try to vary one thing at a time, and see how things go.
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dangler you seem to be taking a gentle approach to tension/ stretching are you having any success with this? I've been stretching at pretty much maximum intensity for the last

7 months without any breaks and not much to show for it. so i decided to go on a week long timeout skin repair break and looking to try something different a new approach when i come back.
 
Yes fonic, 3 years with an X4, usually 600 to (sometimes 1200 grams), but usually top out at 1000 grams. 2+ inches in that time frame.
I switched to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], because my skin was getting broken, irritated, sore where I was fastening at. I saw I could keep running at the grams that work for me, but with a much more comfortable vacuum chamber; and with an added benefit of enlarging the glans, via the vacuum chamber.

I am still running in the 600 to 1000 grams in year 4. I find breaks, and days off, help the process. Frequently in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use, "more is better", is anti-productive.
Good you are taking a long break.
Try warming up, rice sock, before getting into your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. If at all possible, some mild heat applied while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can help, it will relax the cells even more.
I think because the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is so darn comfortable, it is way too easy to over do things. In the manual, in somewhat obscure language, they advocate rest breaks and days off.
That is what I practice.
Also, I am older, retired, and my skin just ain't as "young & supple, forgiving" as it was many, many years ago. <grin>
It acctually dictates that I go the gentler approach in extending, and in Penis Enlargement.
Cheers !
 
Hey fonic when your not in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are you still staying extended maybe with some type of wrap or using another method of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]?
 
Dangler;481151 said:
Yes fonic, 3 years with an X4, usually 600 to (sometimes 1200 grams), but usually top out at 1000 grams. 2+ inches in that time frame.
I switched to the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], because my skin was getting broken, irritated, sore where I was fastening at. I saw I could keep running at the grams that work for me, but with a much more comfortable vacuum chamber; and with an added benefit of enlarging the glans, via the vacuum chamber.

I am still running in the 600 to 1000 grams in year 4. I find breaks, and days off, help the process. Frequently in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use, "more is better", is anti-productive.
Good you are taking a long break.
Try warming up, rice sock, before getting into your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. If at all possible, some mild heat applied while in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] can help, it will relax the cells even more.
I think because the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is so darn comfortable, it is way too easy to over do things. In the manual, in somewhat obscure language, they advocate rest breaks and days off.
That is what I practice.
Also, I am older, retired, and my skin just ain't as "young & supple, forgiving" as it was many, many years ago. <grin>
It acctually dictates that I go the gentler approach in extending, and in Penis Enlargement.
Cheers !
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Thats great dangler you found what works through trial and error, glad your gaining! i spent too much time in the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] at 1100g no rest days and ended up wearing down my glans till its red raw,

stupid mistake on my part, just so eager for gains and its ended up being counter productive, i'm going to come back wiser and pay more attention to warning signs that i'm overdoing it,

having no breaks has definitely hurt me and in hindsight 1100g has proved to much tension on glans, think ill copy your blueprint and shoot for between 600 and max 1000g with rest days

and see if i can get some length this way, like you say its about finding your own individual sweetspot.
 
tparker84;481153 said:
Hey fonic when your not in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] are you still staying extended maybe with some type of wrap or using another method of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]?
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i havent buddy cause i spent so much time daily extending, then when not doing that i'm really active so its not been practical to try and wrap, especially with excessive amounts of foreskin its a battle trying to keep anything on.
 
Fonic,
Have you had any gains at all using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] at the tension you specifies earlier? I ask because if you haven't (and I'm sorry if you haven't) that would give better indication as to what's effective and what not.
 
CaptainCaveman;481257 said:
Fonic,
Have you had any gains at all using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] at the tension you specifies earlier? I ask because if you haven't (and I'm sorry if you haven't) that would give better indication as to what's effective and what not.
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sup caveman

no gains to report at a constant tension of 1100g between 6 and 7 hours per day, 7 days a week, any man should be massively rewarded for that effort but sadly not everything is black and white,

having said that who is to say that wouldn't bring you massive gains we are all individuals and whats works for one man may not work for another, for every lock there is a key i will find the right one eventually,

using any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on its own is not so easy to see what is working, takes time results are a long way off in my circumstance anyway, i may have failed so far but ill keep plugging away adapting mixing it up

and see what i can achieve in the next few months, guys like dickleaker and dangler have been very insightful for me, so ill see where my new found knowledge takes me.
 
fonic;481147 said:
dangler you seem to be taking a gentle approach to tension/ stretching are you having any success with this? I've been stretching at pretty much maximum intensity for the last 7 months without any breaks and not much to show for it. so i decided to go on a week long timeout skin repair break and looking to try something different a new approach when i come back.
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I thought about your 7 months ordeal. I would encourage you to research deconditioning here, the pegym, thundersplace, and determine just how long a break you ought to do. I've read where some have undergone a couple weeks to a month. If you don't make it long enough, the break that is, you may be setting yourself up for "no progress".
I've been doing breaks regularly, since I hit my first plateau in year 1.
Good luck, now go do your homework, lol.
 
I second what Dangler said Fonic. And I too wish you all the best in your endeavor.
Dangler,
When you said that you took a break after a plateau, how did you go about determining that you were no longer gaining? Do you have a specific method for checking your measurements?
 
I need to explain my last post. I understand that everyone should have a way to measure. A ruler is all it takes. My question had more to do with timing. I was wondering how long do you take before you measure your gains or lack thereof. I ask because I'm thinking that 7 months is a long way to go without knowing whether something needs to be tweaked or not.
 
Dangler;481273 said:
I thought about your 7 months ordeal. I would encourage you to research deconditioning here, the pegym, thundersplace, and determine just how long a break you ought to do. I've read where some have undergone a couple weeks to a month. If you don't make it long enough, the break that is, you may be setting yourself up for "no progress".
I've been doing breaks regularly, since I hit my first plateau in year 1.
Good luck, now go do your homework, lol.
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i agree you could be on to something here, been over three years now I've been extending, pumping, or hanging weights with little to no rest inbetween, thats been my winning formula for the first couple of years

now in the last year its ground to a halt, not through lack off effort, just damn stubborn dick not doing what its told anymore ha ill research the plateau breaks and see whats going to suit me and what

makes sense, its hard getting your head around the fact if extending its all about cell growth, so why would that need rest, colour me puzzled!

@ dangler- ill make sure i do my homework on time, i want that gold star lol

@ caveman- thanks man- ill be back!
 
CaptainCaveman;481275 said:
Dangler,
When you said that you took a break after a plateau, how did you go about determining that you were no longer gaining? Do you have a specific method for checking your measurements?
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I used to measure once every 4 - 5 weeks, also used to measure how far I was extended length. If I had 2 - 3 months with next to nothing, I would change something. I accepted aprox. 0.18 to 0.22 inches per month, as a long term average, over several months, as what I was expecting.
Some months better than others, I just wanted to NOT react too soon. It is a waiting game.
I would mix in hand stretching, jelqing, use of an xsleeve (autoextender.com device), pumping, vary what I was mixing in. Oh, and just put all the paraphernalia aside and take a week off every now & then.
There are for me, just some periods of time, that not much happens.

@fonic, I read you have hanging in your past endeavors. Yes that would have resulted in one toughened set of ligament(s).
Some hangers simply use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], to just hold the penis stretched out, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], and still rely on hanging. I have not followed their progress in regards to plateaus/increasing weight loads. I'd guess it become more difficult to adjust the routine, more moving pieces to tweek.
 
Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.



For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort


all the best to you my Scottish Bro
fonic;481303 said:
i agree you could be on to something here, been over three years now I've been extending, pumping, or hanging weights with little to no rest inbetween, thats been my winning formula for the first couple of years

now in the last year its ground to a halt, not through lack off effort, just damn stubborn dick not doing what its told anymore ha ill research the plateau breaks and see whats going to suit me and what

makes sense, its hard getting your head around the fact if extending its all about cell growth, so why would that need rest, colour me puzzled!

@ dangler- ill make sure i do my homework on time, i want that gold star lol

@ caveman- thanks man- ill be back!
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Dickleaker;481323 said:
Fonic ,

You may have built up some scar tissue from too much micro tears and the break makes sense.
Deep massage and heat /vibrator would break up the scar tissue so for a month that could be ur routine.

The scar tissue is exactly what Irspow explains what happens from too much force over a long period of time...the gains grind to a halt.

Irspow:

So definitely there is some ideal ratio of parents and daughters at any given time even though that may never be quantified without some serious medical research that is beyond anything that I could ever perform. But certainly maximizing intensity is unnecessary and inefficient. "Rest" is something that is only necessary when too much intensity put too much of a strain on the available resources within our bodies. And "rest", by definition, cannot be present when speaking in terms of maximizing efficiency. Rest is a solution or a requirement because of prior and present inefficiency.



For a better understanding of this read his posts in this thread...long but GREAT info!!
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...and-rest-discussion&highlight=rest+and+effort


Thanks dickleaker, to my rescue as usual, got plenty time on my hands just now so have no excuses but to read up on your provided info,

i'm actually quite intrigued to see when i come back if this whole decon break works and kickstarts newbie gains again.

any ideas for a hobby in the meantime, and btw lmao where will i get a vibrator from don't exactly have one lying around, a could use a makeshift one though a got in the monkey spanker!
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Will the affiliate program with [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] be posted at some point? Desperatley need one.
 
So Dangler, given how you tend to measure monthly, have you seen any gains using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I think Tue only person I've heard of who's actually had some results from this device is Dickleaker. It would be nice to know there's more out there.
 
CaptainCaveman;481532 said:
So Dangler, given how you tend to measure monthly, have you seen any gains using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I think Tue only person I've heard of who's actually had some results from this device is Dickleaker. It would be nice to know there's more out there.
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not yet, only at the 2 month mark, but I like the flaccid increase.
 
OK, so I take rest days.

I thought while resting the penis shaft, I could still do something with the Glans.
So, I just put myself into the chamber, mild to light vacuum, and leave out the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/straps.
I get a decent "head swell", and on a day off, I get to let the rest of the penis have a rest day !

I had toyed with a special cylinder/fixture for glans pumping, but this will do the job nicely !
 
Good going Dangler. I don't know how you can resist measuring for that long. But I sure hope you get a nice surprise when you do. Please keep us informed.
By the way, I took note of what you said before about resting for a few days until the itching and puffiness goes away. It took about 2 days and I was back to normal. But then I started again last night and the itchiness came back. I wonder if it has anything to do with the lotion? Anyways, I'll keep changing things up until I get a better hang of it.
 
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