Correct me if I'm wrong you guy's, but I am not trying to bashful to anyone hear.

* You get 18% off if you already own an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]
* [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] discount gives you 15% which HAS to be spent on parts/ accessories.

At this point I don't know if I'm better off ordering without the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] discount because you get 18% off which does not have to be spent on parts/ accessories.

I suppose I am more upset that I waited for so long in hopes of a good deal :(
 
This was the best deal I could put together guys. I spent 3 months pursing it, I wish it was better for you guys.
 
No harsh feelings DLD :) We all know you work your butt off to get these affiliations.

I just figured that if they are already giving an 18% discount to people who already have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] (which most of us here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] do) that they should have given us at least 25% off the original price.

Just so you know, I did order mine through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] discount in-order to support our community.

Anyways, I came across this heating pad which is pretty convenient to use for warm up/down:

http://unique-heat.com/

* I do not endorse this product or have any affiliation with this product.

I use the heating pad and it works well.. just don't nuke it for too long...
 
hey dld regardless of the feedback you did pull threw for the community and I just want to say thank you for your persistence in getting us the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] deal take it easy my friend peace. :cool:
 
Thanks for the support guys. I do work hard for the best possible deal. Perhaps we can do something better in the future if they see we are a serious affiliate. Happy gaining guys!
 
i whant to buy [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] (not the uppgrade kit) [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and i own a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], so do i then get 18% of 269 euros ?

so that is 220 euros. how can i buy this for 220 euros then ? i must be misunderstanding this..
 
I bought my [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] back in Feb, and at that time the web site had the 18% discount if you suBathmateitted proof of purchase. The offer ended, and last I looked, it had not been re-added to the web site.
 
They stopped offering the 18% discount for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] owners months ago. I got the discount on my first one, but the offer was done when I got my second.

Also, I think when I ordered, the price once I got to PayPal was less than what the listed price was when I converted it from euros to dollars.
 
doublelongdaddy;467853 said:
I am contacting them about some of their attachments and such and to see if we can get them cheap:) I will also have Darren look at this thread and see if there is anything [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] can do to create similar systems. The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] is over priced as it is and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] is a much better price for a superior [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], it is the various attachments that interest me in the PM.

Hi Dld, please do get us a good deal on the head attachment or get [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to make one, i have recently purchased a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and would love to buy a better head attachment, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] will make a fortune if they can create a vacume based head attachment, because the penis master beats the crap out of the 16 way method.
 
so the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] DEAL is 269 euros (the same as before) but it will give us 40.43 EUROS worth of extra parts, right ? i do not know this [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] so what extra part sould i get ??
 
Big_boy;483814 said:
so the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] DEAL is 269 euros (the same as before) but it will give us 40.43 EUROS worth of extra parts, right ? i do not know this [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] so what extra part sould i get ??

You are correct sir.
 
MoreGains123;469149 said:
Dickleaker has the basis in Penis Enlargement to understand what he's talking about with respect to 'inner penis'. However, I feel this subject becomes immediately misunderstood by newcomers. The portion of penis which resides inside the body is not being pulled out of your body. You are not re-arranging your anatomy with Penis Enlargement. The concept originated with the BTC type stretching and the effects it rapidly achieved. Actually, by stretching your suspensory ligaments you acquire increased usable length by lowering the "exit point" and somewhat straightening the line between the inner and outer. As hangers will tell you, some of this length is simply an illusion. But a very acceptable one because lowering the exit point gives the visual of a much longer penis than has actually been obtained. This is where the expression "pulling out the inner penis" originated, but the fact is: it hasn't moved. The stretched ligament produces less of a limiting factor.

Keep in mind that long before your body would allow a portion to be removed by pulling, it would either rip or grow. You cannot relocate parts of your body. Besides, if you could externalize the inner portion, what would replace the space it would leave behind? Growth occurs slowly and your body would not appreciate the idea something is being removed. It actually sees this on a minute-by-minute basis as stress. Stress causes several reaction stages in the order of efficiency: 1) strengthening 2) thickening 3) stretching 4) growing. Each method is tried until it fails, leading the body to move to the next most efficient over time. Growth is the least efficient, so it is the last resort*. Strengthening is the first and is the reason many newcomers give up after a couple of weeks or so: they never get past this stage. Also, it must be understood different tissues have different reaction times. For example, skin moves through the stages quickly whereas ligaments tend to take much longer. Skeletal muscle is in-between the two. According to the medical community, smooth muscle should not be stretched. Likewise, in the interest of efficiency the body will re-absorb some or all gains when the stress is removed: just as it does with bodybuilders**.

There are four significant factors which limit the size of your erect penis: 1) attachment ligaments/septum 2) the smooth muscle of the tunicae 3) healthy blood pressure 4) excitement level

Items 1 and 2 are easily stretched with force over time. Item 3 can be increased with exercise. Item 4 can be increased by eliminating masturbation.

Anything which pulls from the glans pulls the entire penis. The glans is firmly attached via the septum which in turn is attached via ligaments. There is no such thing as pulling only a portion of the penis, the glans must transfer its experienced force to the septum which in turn must transfer the force to the ligaments which then transfer it to the bone. Some of the force is dissipated along the way, but it must take this route. For example, you can't pull just a section of a rope, no matter what: it transfers all the way to the other end. Pulls can feel differently, but it doesn't mean they're working better or worse than another with respect to inspiring growth. After years of Penis Enlargement, I can comfortably say that I've gained without feeling anything in particular and I've been sore as hell without results.


*Visitors to the gym will know that muscles get stronger before they get bigger. It's more efficient for the body to create more nerve connections than it is to add muscle tissue. However, after the body has exhausted its more efficient methods, the muscle grows to accommodate the stress.
**Protein intake can also affect the speed of this reduction.

Then how do you explain dld's 4.25 inches increase in lenghth from lig stretching?
 
one question for you DLD dickleaker fonic and those who are using [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], what extra part sould i buy for the 40.43 euros ?
 
I am seeing a handful of "newer" products on the market, even though similar in use, advancements in comfort are clear. DLD and others, what is your opinion of this [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] versus the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? I like the idea of using either one with the divosuit. How do you all feel about the divocup? Obviously all could be combined for optimal use, but for financial reasons is one pair better than the other? Divosuit and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] or Divosuit and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]? Is the Divocup helpful? What about just the Divosuit and cup combo?
 
Really interested in buying [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], rit now im saving up my money.
Im a newbie for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...since i know [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] i only do manual strech ...n still i,ve gained bout .75" in several years.
The thing is that i never give enough dedication to Penis Enlargement and i think its time for me to get serious :D
i really concerns about time and i only have night time untill morning coz i worked 8 to 5.
I can't use strap method coz my job is not really behind the desk kind of job.
so my questions is do you think it can be use while sleep if i can manage to not move alot during sleep. anyone here does that?
and what is the best/safest tension i should go..?
My Goal is mainly on length and i hope 6-8 hrs/day could help me gain :D
Please advice for me?
 
The belt is too expensive IMO for what it is.You can get an elastic strap from Ron at [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] for $7
http://tlctugger.com/prodTLC.htm#straps

I would get extra comfort lube and extra latex sluices and diaphrams.You are going to need those in the future anyway.

Glad you are getting this device...it is an awesome weapon in the battle for a bigger cock!
Big_boy;483846 said:
one question for you DLD dickleaker fonic and those who are using [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], what extra part sould i buy for the 40.43 euros ?
 
It has been difficult to wear at night for me .Your blood pressure and therefore blood flow to your penis drops 30 % while you are sleeping...not good for renewing cells and growing larger.
Your experience may vary.
Some guys use the vitallus plus while sleeping.It was designed with that in mind.
you could also wear a divosuit which is a form of compression bandage to keep your cock elongated from your daytime Penis Enlargement while you sleep.

Congratulations on your 3/4" that is awesome!!

If you are going to become more dedicated your gains should payback for time invested!
arjandito;483924 said:
Really interested in buying [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words], rit now im saving up my money.
Im a newbie for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]...since i know [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] i only do manual strech ...n still i,ve gained bout .75" in several years.
The thing is that i never give enough dedication to Penis Enlargement and i think its time for me to get serious :D
i really concerns about time and i only have night time untill morning coz i worked 8 to 5.
I can't use strap method coz my job is not really behind the desk kind of job.
so my questions is do you think it can be use while sleep if i can manage to not move alot during sleep. anyone here does that?
and what is the best/safest tension i should go..?
My Goal is mainly on length and i hope 6-8 hrs/day could help me gain :D
Please advice for me?
 
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Dickleaker;483926 said:
The belt is too expensive IMO for what it is.You can get an elastic strap from Ron at [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] for $7
http://tlctugger.com/prodTLC.htm#straps

I would get extra comfort lube and extra latex sluices and diaphrams.You are going to need those in the future anyway.

Glad you are getting this device...it is an awesome weapon in the battle for a bigger cock!

i recommend the the hose attachment as well.
 
Anyone know of a replacement lube with high viscosity that can be used instead of the one that comes with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I'm almost out and I would rather not have to get it shiped from Germany.
 
I have used a water based lube. All you have to do is experiment with how much/little to use.
Keep in mind, do not use petroleum based lube, like Vaseline, as it can cause deterioration of latex sluice/diaphragm.
Some lubes may be absorbed into the skin, meaning penile withdrawal might not be as "slick" as when entering.
 
Ok [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] or penismaster pro? I know [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is geared more towards girth, however DLD touts its use for length as well. What are your thoughts? Anyone actually using the divocup for gains too?
 
arjandito;483924 said:
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so my questions is do you think it can be use while sleep if i can manage to not move alot during sleep. anyone here does that?
and what is the best/safest tension i should go..?
My Goal is mainly on length and i hope 6-8 hrs/day could help me gain :D
Please advice for me?

Instructions say to take a break after 3 hrs max. Try using about 600 grams. Run with that for a number of months & see how that does.
Invest some time working on wearing the device while you are awake, so you can adjust as needed, BEFORE you attempt any night time wearing.
 
Dickleaker;483927 said:
It has been difficult to wear at night for me .Your blood pressure and therefore blood flow to your penis drops 30 % while you are sleeping...not good for renewing cells and growing larger.
Your experience may vary.
Some guys use the vitallus plus while sleeping.It was designed with that in mind.
you could also wear a divosuit which is a form of compression bandage to keep your cock elongated from your daytime Penis Enlargement while you sleep.

Congratulations on your 3/4" that is awesome!!

If you are going to become more dedicated your gains should payback for time invested!

Thx DK... if using it overnight do a little benefit then i must try using it while im on work.

Dangler;483943 said:
Instructions say to take a break after 3 hrs max. Try using about 600 grams. Run with that for a number of months & see how that does.
Invest some time working on wearing the device while you are awake, so you can adjust as needed, BEFORE you attempt any night time wearing.

Yeah...eventhough may slow gains...i still have to try that with low tension...because nightime is only time that i have.. Thx Dangler..
 
Slickg;483941 said:
Ok [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] or penismaster pro? I know [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is geared more towards girth, however DLD touts its use for length as well. What are your thoughts? Anyone actually using the divocup for gains too?

I love my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]:) but then again, I lot amy [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]:) That doesn't help, does it?
 
Wow these are some greeeeedy people.
They dont sell the PM wholesale so when other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] companies probably only get 50% of the retail price these guys get the full retail profit and still price it high.
Now the no longer include the "Hose application system" when you buy the complete package but have made it an 20 euros extra. On top of that they seem to deliver by row boat,,,,no profit wasted on a fast delivery here.
Knowing guys are willing to pay almost anything for a bigger dick must be sweet:)

Dickleaker or other experienced guys what you think about mixing in manual stretching with the PM?
I was thinking of doing 20min stretching first thing in the morning the use the PM
4x2 hourse with a new warmup between each 2 hours set.
After 8 hours i do another 20min stretching and 3 more 2 hour sets of PM.
Finishing up the day with my normal [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]+jelq workout before bed.

There has been a lot of talk about how high force is "bad/useless" in this thread which clearly goes against what many big gainers like DLD has done over the years before [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] became popular.
 
jjjjeeessss finaly! I bought [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and cant wait. DLD thanks for this amazing deal i think it is a very good deal thanks man :) :)
 
@Watts
I don't think we are advocating low tension on extending.The principle is to extend or stretch for as many hours as possible during a day at the highest tension you can safely go for that duration.Time being the most important based on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory and cell regeneration in an extended state for faster gains.
For example if one was to extend at a high tension but could only extend for 3 hours at that tension because you got fluid retention or blisters on your glans than its too high.
However if you extended at a lower tension for 16 hours than your gains are going to be much faster.

There is also the potential of developing scar tissue at too high a tension which would grind your gains to a halt.

Read Irspow's posts on rest and recovery to understand these principles in depth.Also read DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory.Very important background info for you!

Mixing in manual stretching is great idea...you will loosen and stretch your ligaments and pull out some of that 4" of inner penis and gain faster than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] alone.

Good luck to you Bro!


QUOTE=watts;483987]Wow these are some greeeeedy people.
They dont sell the PM wholesale so when other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] companies probably only get 50% of the retail price these guys get the full retail profit and still price it high.
Now the no longer include the "Hose application system" when you buy the complete package but have made it an 20 euros extra. On top of that they seem to deliver by row boat,,,,no profit wasted on a fast delivery here.
Knowing guys are willing to pay almost anything for a bigger dick must be sweet:)

Dickleaker or other experienced guys what you think about mixing in manual stretching with the PM?
I was thinking of doing 20min stretching first thing in the morning the use the PM
4x2 hourse with a new warmup between each 2 hours set.
After 8 hours i do another 20min stretching and 3 more 2 hour sets of PM.
Finishing up the day with my normal [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]+jelq workout before bed.

There has been a lot of talk about how high force is "bad/useless" in this thread which clearly goes against what many big gainers like DLD has done over the years before [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] became popular.[/QUOTE]
 
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Big_boy;484001 said:
jjjjeeessss finaly! I bought [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] and cant wait. DLD thanks for this amazing deal i think it is a very good deal thanks man :) :)

You are very welcome!
 
Thanks Dangler! Can you tell me the name of the lube you've tried and had success with?

Also, on a side note, I recently switched from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] attachment to the leg strap and I gotta say that I like this thing even more. So much more convenient and discreet. I started wearing it for an hour at a time and have steadily increased it to an hour and a half before breaks. My hope is to be able to wear it for 2 to 3 hours without having to remove the head attachment. Slow and steady. I'm addicted to wearing it and the constant tug I get as I walk. It's actually made wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] enjoyable.
 
ID Glide. I think you could get by with Walmarts Equate personal lube, I've not bought any yet.

Wearing the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] while doing Kegels is also very enjoyable.
 
Yes, the kegels are fun with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]. I can really feel the tug work its way through my shaft and into the glans.
 
PeniMaster Pro on the way:)

Affiliation has it's privileges:)
 
celttank;484193 said:
DLD i hope u ordered the large latex pieces cos you're gonna need them.

They are sending me two packages, the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster[/words] and the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words]. I am not sure if they sent me spare parts but I hope the models they send will fit me, I assume for the most part they will as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] does. I will do an open box of each to show what is included.
 
Dld, great job with getting the deal. I know you are not satisfied with it right now but getting your foot in the door goes a long way. I have the feeling this company is going to be huge. too bad [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] doesn't follow suit, I really like their products, but the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] is very comfortable. Thanks again.
 
Anyone using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]Penimaster Pro[/words] with the glans chamber getting a little puffiness at the tip of the glans when they remove it. Not the whole glans just the tip?
 
yup, from the vacuum effect of the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]. goes away very quickly.
 
yeah today i was extended about 2 and a half hours and i took it off this time my glans were kinda hard when i took it off anyone experienced that
 
I get a whitish color on my glans but I don't think it gets hard. Did you work your way up to two and a half hours? I ask because before conditioning my unit I used to get a lot of discomfort but now I can use the device for much longer and I don't feel the same negative effects.
 
Going to try to do an open box video tonight. I received it last week but have been too busy to do, my son should help me shoot the video tonight, Mike
 
944 posts in this thread so far and from my estimation one person indicated that they had experienced gains (dickleaker). Anyone else seen any results?
 
I'm about 90% positive I am making gains with this. I go 2 hours at high intensity with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] (with [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]) while using the v stretches about 5 days a week. I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] about 3-4 days a week. I have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] and do other manual stretches 10-15 minutes every day. When I am not Penis Enlargementing I am in my divosuit and have stopped wearing underwear (unless I am working out at the gym). Since I have started using the v stretches, all of a sudden my penis feels much thicker and hangs way better. My head is getting some good expansion too. I am not doing any measurements until August, but right now, I feel like something crazy is going on.
 
Dickleaker was one of the first to use this he was the reason I got it but give it time most guys are getting use to it and just started using it
CaptainCaveman;484792 said:
944 posts in this thread so far and from my estimation one person indicated that they had experienced gains (dickleaker). Anyone else seen any results?
 
tbone, that sounds exciting man. I hope you're in for a treat when you measure in August. Hey, how do you do v stretches with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I'm curious since you said you can feel their effect.
tparker, I understand this is a new trip we're on. Looking forward to what awaits us.
 
I just got mine today i had a little trouble getting the head attatcHydromaxent on but it's very comfortable
 
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CaptainCaveman;484824 said:
tbone, that sounds exciting man. I hope you're in for a treat when you measure in August. Hey, how do you do v stretches with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words]? I'm curious since you said you can feel their effect.
tparker, I understand this is a new trip we're on. Looking forward to what awaits us.

when I am in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] use a pen or marker and kinda weave your penis and the bars of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]....gives a really good stretch.

check the pictures in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?66671-V-stretch-in-extender
 
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